Go faster by changing sprockets! 

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I read this comment but it took me 3 years

Weird shit is I’ve had some set ups go faster with a bigger sprocket like a centrifugal clutch or engine that just needed a little more so it could hit its max rpm but hell it happens sometimes lol depends on ya set up usually smaller is faster but weaker and larger is more torque

same here, thanks. from philippines.

My man what about the RPMs you making the engine rev faster but in theory you're really not going faster that was the RPMs you were doing it's going to be revving at 6,000 RPMs I think you got a little bit mixed up there watch some other videos

@@ghara8567 who?

More torque takes off faster less RPMs in the short end but you lose speed in the top end I think that's what you were trying to say

@@ghara8567 where did I say that? 🤔

Thank you.

There are some people who are terrible at math like myself though who much appreciate the simplified version! :)

Sorry about my selfish comment :)MisterFuturtastic

***** Thanks for watching guys. Yes, in any case, I don`t want to insult anyone`s intelligence, I just make basic videos and I list all the steps for a task, so others can try new things and save or explore.

***** theoverengineer Yes, thanks Dylan and thank you OverEng. I'm sorry if I came off judgmental or critical. I really appreciate people like OverEng to educate others and Dylan for recognizing and speaking up for OverEng.

SaigonIntel Thanks for watching, no worries.

Kenny Bruno Good catch. The correct figures are inserted in speech bubbles, only showing when viewed from a desktop/laptop.

Brudda K LOL...Jake Brake.

Cheers!

04enduro Well said, thanks!Here are some ideas why people ask simple looking questions: (there`s nothing wrong with anybody) - Showing once or watching once does not translate into mastery of anything or does not enable anybody to function at a self-sufficient level of a skill (any skill, eg hanging a door, loading a magazine, lube clutch cable) - Inverse proportions are not instinctive. Direct proportions are instinctive. (Bigger engine = more weight) In direct proportion the words indicating change (adjectives) are both the same, positive (bigger, more). Could be negative too, but both, again. (Smaller engine, lighter bike). Inverse proportions are tricky (bigger rear sprocket = less speed) because the adjectives are opposites. On top of this, we have a mix of direct and inverse relations in the same topic. In changing sprockets some relations are direct (bigger front = more speed), and some relations are inverse so patterns become hard to follow. - Most people don`t know how learn or to use a textbook: read/watch - start skill - read/watch on - continue with skill - read/watch more - continue with skill - finish, check back & repeat with another set of numbers - Learning takes time: people first observe bike performance fine detail, then think up some possible solutions, then search for answers, then make some sense of the answers/solutions found. Curiosity moves all this, it`s the best and biggest thing that has to happen for learning to take place. - The skill of comparing final drive combinations in percentages is not explained. Comparing drive ratios as decimals is one thing, math with % is another skill, building the 2 together is skipped over around 17:25 - 18:30 - The skill of calculating speed gains/losses in km/h or mph is not explained, just implied in 2 x 11 sec around 18:45 & 20:20 The short math is: say bike tops out at 160km/h, new final drive provides a 5.4% gain: new theory speed is 160 x 1.054 = 168.64km/h. If people make the effort of being curious, want to learn something and ask questions, I make the effort and answer them. Over and over. The same questions. I don`t mind. Learning basic new skills needs frequent checks anyhow, plus it`s new people every time. I also don`t mind viewers helping other viewers with offering re-phrased versions. For learning to happen, if a certain explanation is not fully meaningful, alternative or different explanations maywork out. Usually, a learner gets something new out of every different approach. With one single explanation it is never possible to capture complex things, plus there are different learning styles, too. Thanks for sharing your summary and watching!

theoverengineer You're a very humble and considerate person and made some good points in that reply that I agree with. It personally seemed, to me, as though some people never even pressed play on the video though, this is why I wanted to make a summary. I just want to state that my intention wasn't to be demeaning or mean to anyone, I just wanted to make a bold comment that is easy to read so hopefully it could answer some questions. Great video btw!

Hey 04enduro,theoverengineer. The statement of more top speed less efficiency is wrong,as you know bigger drive sprocket more speed at the same rpm compared to the small drive sprocket...at the same rpm more speed means more distance you are covering with same fuel consumption... More distance with same fuel consumption means more efficiency I assume you should have worked that much out for yourself funny enough and also upgrading bigger drive sprocket is not always the case because it is limited by the space provides by the manufacturer while you can relatively step down the driven sprocket for the same results...but top speed is not the only solution for higher efficiency we also need enough torque to maintain it that's what the aim of the manufacturer's is...to maintain good speed with adequate torque for best efficiency...We can always tweek and play with these as per our satisfaction but at the end of the day...sharing knowledge upgrades it...no hard feeling lads...I love and respect the way you question to know the things instead of just blindly believing it...do consider writing back...peace✌

theoverengineer well said, you're too kind of a person! now you can be a teacher, jwk bur here I ask this, can you still do this video(again) with the engine dispacement coefficient on the calculations?

:D

What if we only change sprocket From 14 t front and 41 t back To 18 t front and 30/28 t back Why it slows down in 4th gear.. what is the solution to that . Imean without alteration..

@@chachasheeda1931 That 18t and 30t will give you a lot of Acceleration Loss. but still that Topspeed will be almost Same Or May decrease Greatly Due Road which Road type is . if that On Drag race that won't Give you change on winning and Also in track. I wouldn't recommend That kind of Gearing that make your motorcycle Downgrade For me. I would recommend Back to stock. But Let me know what is your purpose changing. If your planning Faster. Choose Fastest acceleration First It will big Help if Your Getting a Race and Next is Top speed. if you're Street Acceleration still practical due helping In Overtaking. Slow overtaking is Dangerous. Bonus:Believe in Jesus that He will paid Your Sins and He will raise you from the Dead. And the Father also raise him from the dead so will you be Save. Benifits of Eternal Life no End. If we are still alive You can Worship God You Get Guidance as long you listen. God will never for leave us Even we have Troubles he will help us

@@Justfun-gg8xi lots of love broo.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰🥰❣️❣️❣️😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 My main purpose is a challenge... Basically... But there is a difference that i want to race with alterationbike and win on genuine bike with sporket or minor alterations .. i mwan nothing with engine (pistion head cylinder etc) Whil the oppobike is alter... Has bigger piston head cylinder bore clutch box etc... Now i tell tou that genuine bike top speed is etc 90 95 while on somebokes of same company it is 110 115 ... While the opponent biike even after being alterd so deeply gives 110 115 120 max 125 ! And their alter bike engine life is approx three months... While genuine you have life in years.. I want them to show that company is not a fool.. while you can get more speed with such foolish engine modification... The moderately acceleration is acceptable but i want top speed. To be more.. as 130 With no engine modification .. onle intake fuel of high grade and sprocket i want to achieve that..

@@chachasheeda1931 if legal race purpose. You Should improve your Aerodynamics. Also Aerodynamics are huge impact. I would suggest stock Sprocket. Huge change on sprocket affect your rpm. Low gearing More rpm more acceleration and Reduce topspeed but fastest Topspeed reach which is more practical. Than Long gear which takes time to Reach Top speed. Also Weight Matters but don't Try Make your Wheels Thin If your Using at Street Is Dangerous only use in Drag legally but not also i track. Also Try to remove your ecu limit or Cdi Limit if you have ecu Let it tune and Dyno Tune If you have cdi let it Tune and dyno if possible for your Model and buy after Market so that i can be tune. If You planing also in streets Make use you have abs Brake for more safe Remember More power more responsible. Bonus: Believe in Jesus that He will paid Your Sins and He will raise you from the Dead. And the Father also raise him from the dead so will you be Save. Benifits of Eternal Life no End. If we are still alive You can Worship God You Get Guidance as long you listen. God will never for leave us Even we have Troubles he will help us after dead Reunited with God No pain You will share God wealth You will Rule with Him

@@Justfun-gg8xi what if i change the the size.. i mean increase it .. on same bike.. And use hioctane fuel.. and high tyre pressure.. ?? And how can i alter cdi ?? No alter is available right now in Market?

For what cc would this be suitable for, really need to know. Plss!!!

Mark Abrams Any cc really, from a 100cc dirt bike to a 1300cc hayabusa. It just depends how you want the motor to perform, go bigger for more torque off the line or out of corners, go smaller for more top end and straight line speed

No need for rocket science, just ride a bicycle with gears and understand yourself, by witnessing how much effort you need in each gear. How easily you can accelerate with smaller front gears and how fast you can go, after it try shifting gears. Best to understand the logic...

is 17/36 good for a motorcycle 250cc?

@@aymanabantas2309 her motorun dislisi ayri be abi. 250 cc demekle olmaz.

+TroyaE117 Indeed, but for certain uses it makes perfectly sense to do it. The factory compromise is largely to satisfy most drivers with an acceptable tradeoff between top speed and acceleration. Street racers will benefit from a higher ratio, whereas tourers might like to reduce the engine speed (which I've done myself on my GSX 1100 EF with 16/40 teeth instead of 15/42 standard. I love cruising like that, with only some 3.000 rpm at 90 km/h. :-D

TroyaE117 I agree with you Troya, however for riders like me it makes total sense. I'm thinking about putting a smaller rear sprocket on my ZX1000R because I'm a BRAND NEW rider and I 100% don't need all the acceleration/torque that the factory sprocket produces. When I'm a better rider I will put it back to stock, or even trade some top end for more torque.

It does come at a price though, if you increase the ratio later on. You'll have to rev the engine faster at any given speed (that's why I went the other way like you want to initially - I have plenty of torque despite of this, and I love cruising with less engine rpm at any given speed). c",) But then again - my GSX 1100 engine enjoys almost full torque (about 10.7 kgm) at less than 3.000 rpm.

+brufnus great!!

TroyaE117 yes finally someone who under stands

Thanks for watching

+Shriram Karpur The pitch diameter does, it results in pitch circumference, which is then divided by a whole number, the teeth. So we might just forget about (pi) and pitch radius and work with a straight whole number. Can`t do that with pulleys, sheaves and wheels.

Shivo hum teeth not diameter🤦🏽‍♂️

Both right you can have two 48 Tooth but one a #25 C/L and one #60 C/L both roller chain connecting links same ratios in relationship to chain size

+Sir. Sir Wrong, sorry guys - what sort of engineers do we have here?? Engine power does not change as a result of gear ratio alteration and it is that (engine kW vs all up weight AUW; kg) which determines acceleration rate, until near to top speed, where drag (e.g. air friction) becomes the limiting factor - ultimately absorbing all available kW thus acceleration reduces to zero. Top speed is (principally) determined by engine kW vs aerodynamic drag (i.e. frontal area x drag coefficient) and other friction al losses. AUW (kg) has virtually no influence, given sufficient roadway, time and absence of police radar etc, to finally reach top speed! Back to the point - any competent rider will simply change his (or her) gearshift points to compensate higher or lower final drive ratio. However, one thing that does alter when applying a higher final drive ratio is that (the typically 5 or 6) gearbox ratios become effectively spaced further apart. So, what was a snappy close ratio shift might start to feel more like an old 4 speed wide ratio clunker of British origin circa 1950's ;( Hope this helps - just pedal harder boys!! cheers // Steve (aero-engineer, ex-motoGP racer + decades off-road & enduro etc)

nope, that's backwards lol

Sir. Sir is right, nothing`s backwards. May be the fractions, but they don`t come with vectors.

MBAS Info dam !

larry menezes Good thinking. The 0.37 means that, compared to the 0.35, torque and acceleration drop by 2% and top speed increases by that 2%. In case of the 0.31 compared to the 0.35, torque and acceleration increase by 4% and top speed drops by 4%.

do the math he showed you EXACTLY how to figure it out..

www.gearingcommander.com/ see here

Larry Menezes you will just cancel out the decease of rear sprocket gearing.

www.gearingcommander.com/ shows every combination possible.

lol

x ShaRkz. Thanks

Thanks for watching.

he would kick the teeth out of the sprocket's mouth

He would ask his brother Chuck what to do, for sure...

I disagree. Going faster = moving at at higher speed, not implying anything about acceleration.

maungsacca it depends; if your bike is with bad ratio you will get on highway speed on 6k rpm ... by increasing the front gear (increasing the ratio) you may drive at the same speed with 5k rpm, which will give you better mpg (better fuel economy) ... it really depends where and how are you riding. In the city the opposite will be better, as when in stuck traffic the lowest possible speed is needed, and also I never shift on 6th ... so in city I may decrease the ratio and will start with lower speed -> 'clutch economy' and also can shift to higher gear and again fuel economy.

The terms "fast" and "quick" are two different things. FAST is regarding a steady speed. QUICK is regarding acceleration. Changing your gearing can make you faster but not as quick, or it can make you quicker but not as fast.

Glad it was helpful!

what about a 1 tooth sprocket

How about just a disk with sand paper for friction

What about nothing.

I think those teeth need to be brushed.

Ha,ha

Exactly

thats because factory setting is 100% so add on the addition speed gain thats how math work bro

Correct. It has to do with the pitch diameter of the sprocket, gear, sheave or pulley. Since the teeth are the same size on the bike`s sprockets to fit the 525 chain, math works with the number of teeth, no need for pi and exponents.

Actually, the bigger the drive the faster you go

Your wrong if you put 4 tooth sprocket with a 2 tooth sprocket on the back tire for one turn the tire will turn twice if you put a 22 tooth srocket with ten you will eccelerate faster to 20 miles an hour but you will only go twenty if you did for an for your bike will take off slow as shit but you will your top speed will increase buy how ever fast your crank will turn

Glad it was helpful!

Will also not go faster under a fat guy, on a steep hill, on flat tires, if the haystack is too big (India, Africa, ...), on a muddy road after the monsoon, with a worn chain that skips the teeth ... the list can go on forever.

You still need the power to use a high gear.

Yup, nobody argues that. This video though isn`t about gearbox design, rpms or engines and top speed.It is solely about final drive and going faster.

I understand, some others always think that a high gear will make them go faster,I am sure you understand what I was trying to explain.

Yup, thank you for commenting. I thought about re-titleing or re-working the intro to make it clearer for everyone (it does come up periodiucally, especially Asian riders of 125-or-so-cc`s) but you can`t clip another file to it in youtube without changing its address. I`ll try to add slides.

+Mista Reason Sure does: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yGRXeGYiWlQ.html

Thanks. I just switched my quad racer set up of 13t 36t to 13t 38t with 18 tires . Will going to 20 tires be or should I stay with 18. I'm not worried about top speed, I just want quick take off. I mostly ride trails & play on the drag strip.

+Mista Reason Bigger tires don`t help in your case. If anything, smaller tire circuference helps with slow speed control and explosive acceleration. Stay with the 18, anything smaller gets stuck easily in gnarly terrain.

Agreed! But only till you start to miss the top end lol

Congrats you just went from 0-20 mph in 1 second and i went from 0-50 in 3👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Acceleration doesn’t mean shit though if your top speed is piddly. Yea you may be the first one out, but you’re also going to be first to be run over once the big dogs catch up.

Glad you think so!

Glad it was helpful!

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if the durability and usage is match.the bike will last long,today manufacturer does not invent 100% long life bcoz comercialism prevail.designs made inventors more encouraging to alleviate its morale

14/32 can make more pickup or more top speed??..please

not enough data

please... how about a biycle

Thanks for chipping in with a thourough comment. Much valued.

Thanks for watching. Yeah, I don`t have the corporate backing, ... and no cute kittens on the channel.

Glad it was helpful!