Notice how the fight before this scene he said “I always have a plan” and after he heard about the sister he had to kill, he got so traumatized that he got sick and responded “i don’t know”
@@coldeed He mercy killed her, but that in itself is not the point, its the fact that, without sugarcoating, HE finished the kill on Wizard boy sister, something that hits too close to himself as he couldnt do anything but watch how his own was tortured and killed by the goblins, it weights too heavily to him, saving a life is the norm, is the thing to expect, but any life lost is a failure to him, that is what weights on him and makes him react like that, that boy is just a few step of being the next Goblin Slayer, and thats no fate one would wish to end up with, as GS puts it "Goblin hunts are no adventure"
Can we take a moment and talk about how Spearman noticed something was off and immediately switched from "Oh, it's this clown" to "Hey bro, you okay?" Dude is tsundere as fuck.
I mean it kinda normal for friend like in real life some friend are like to mean to you but they still care about you if you have something bad happen in your life if a friend not really bad type like don't give a damn about you well it will diffrent story XD
I love spearman. He goes to GS with the usual riffing and teasing, but when he gets close he notices something's up, and immediately gets concerned for him, even without seeing his face at all, just his posture.
@@henryzakarian9218body language speaks just about as well as face. You can hide your face or put a fake smile but somethings gonna show your real feelings.
@@henryzakarian9218he’s a guy who in part makes his living reading body language (if you can’t see what the movements of something fighting you are you aren’t going to make a living or be living very long). Goblin slayer, who’s always in a a state of alertness, is weird but very distinct. And he’s… off, something is WRONG.
Just so everyone understands this: he killed wizard boy’s older sister. THAT is why he’s sick to his stomach. Yes, I understand the context as an outsider that it was a mercy kill and she was going to die regardless. That does not matter to GS. He killed someone’s older sister, by his own hand. As someone who had to watch his own sister violently die, obviously that hits home for him. That’s what makes his line so potent: “did you think you actually accomplished anything?”. It’s basically the same issue characters like Spider-Man deal with a lot. They don’t remember or even acknowledge the ones they saved, all they can think about is the ones they couldn’t.
Exactly. They've taken saving people as their job. They don't consider a life saved to be a success, but the standard. However, a life lost is a failure, and an unforgivable one.
It’s easy to forget the ones you save because everyone can move on at that point. However, when you fail to save someone. Even if there was no way to save them, that’s a feeling you can never forget because it torments you every second of your life.
They also came in with young warrior who’s a pretty good character in year one. Almost another protagonist in the story. Was also one of the first ones to stand up for GS.
We have to do it alone tho, that’s the problem. Women can cry and get a a hundred shoulders to cry on without anyone batting an eye. Generally speaking
@@Hunter-fs2xe Tf you talking about back pedalling. I made a factual statement that I stand by, Im just not so uptight to think I can speak for every single person on the planet hence “generally speaking”
It’s only bigotry if it’s untrue and comes from malice. If you think for a fucking second men and women have access to the same emotional/social resources or can use them the same way, you’ve been having your head up your butt toooooo long
Everyone here is talking about GS acting like this because of trauma or him feeling like he is becoming a goblin which is the very thing he is supposed to kill. This is all correct but I think some people are also forgetting how GS has changed since season 1. Back then, GS focused purely on killing goblins regardless of the method. He didn’t pay any attention to the feelings of others or how he appeared. All he cared about was killing goblins. This is also why when the Wizard Girl begged him to kill her, he did so without hesitation. He was only seeing things logically. There was no way to save her and she just wanted the pain to stop so he put the Wizard Girl out of her misery. It’s only through Priest Girl is when GS began to open up and think about others. He began using reckless methods less often so he doesn’t put others in danger. Upon hearing Wizard Boy talking about losing his sister, GS started to reflect on what he did. Yes, there was no way to save Wizard Girl and trying to get her out would only prolong her agony. GS knew this, however to him, this is not an excuse. He killed someone’s sister. Becoming more open and remembering how his older sister was brutally killed by goblins was overwhelming for him.
I actually think it would have been worse before. Assuming he never met Priestess and assuming he’s still alive, wizard boy shows up wanting to kill goblins. Goblin Slayer is going to still pay attention to that and end up inevitably getting this info drop. But he doesn’t break down. Instead without a word he sets off to do the next quest immediately, no rest. And the next and the next, using his faster but more dangerous methods, and probably ends up dead. Or worse, crippled, unable to continue. He doesn’t kill himself, at his most disconnect d he still knows Cowgirl would be hurt even more than if the goblins got him so he won’t seriously consider that. But he goes nearly catatonic wrapped up in his own mind and the stress kills him in half a decade tops.
in Year One (spin off), he already open up after meeting Cowgirl and Sage(GS's first party), and become more aware of his sorrounding after his rank up test with Examiner.
I always hated the guy paired up with the hot mage girl who was outside the tavern in this scene but immediately after this, he invites Orcbolg to go drink and have a guy's night out. Dude is a fuckin real one
The guy is absolutely nice, you should read of when he invite gs to complete some weird tower dungeon, and they basically have a men only outing with some other character, they have a really good relationship.
I love the reaction from the spear guy. There is something wholesome about how he goes from half jokingly making fun of Goblin slayer to be worried about him on the drop of a hat.
That's my protagonist. Manly tears cus he still has a heart underneath all that steel and edge. It is really depressing though to know he dedicated his entire life to this one cause and it hasn't really made a difference in the way he wanted.
And thats the tragic part, he has changed a lot of lives around himself, he has saved countless people, but hes so warped up in his mindset ANY failure makes all crumble in front of him, hes striving for an unreachable perfection, and that just sinks down and makes him feel powerless and useless, despise the fact hes not, hes a hero for many and a beacon of hope, but hes just human, theres so much he can do
Really don't think this is about the mercy kill like people seem to keep repeating. This whole obsession of his started with his sister being raped and murdered by goblins. So he gets obsessed with killing them, learns how to pretty much wipe out their nests, even starts enjoying it. But then here's this wizard kid, who's sister is someone he couldn't save from goblins. I think it just really hit him that for all the gobs he's killed, for all the nests he's exterminated, nothing has actually changed. There's seemingly an endless supply of the horrid little fuckers raping and murdering to their little black hearts' content, and there's still people out there losing loved ones in the most horrible way just like it happened to him.
i like how you say you dont think its about the mercy killing then proceed to explain how that mercy killing and meeting the persons loved one was the trigger.....bro just wanted to be right while also agreeing.
@@SH1NK1R01 You have reading comprehension issues. In what way did I say the mercy killing was the issue at all? I'm saying it makes no difference, it's not that he finished her off himself that's the problem. It's that someone else was forced to go through the same situation as him because of the goblins that's the problem. If the wizard girl had been finished off by the goblins instead, he'd still have reacted the same way.
Well shit maybe the next time someone asks him to teach them how to kill goblins he should actually teach them instead of being a condescending asshole with nonsense like “if you are waiting to be taught nothing will change” hmm?
@@arturzinurov4781 I don't know if you've been paying attention at all, but that advice ended up saving an entire group when she figured out how to "use" the magic in a more creative way herself.
From what I heard, he finds out alright, and just like you think, he becomes totally pissed and devastated. But I think he also learns that Goblin Slayer only finished her off in an act of mercy.
That's not true it would help a lot. Letting them know she didn't die suffering. That she was able to be peacefully put to rest is much more satisfying an answer than to think she was raped by goblins and left to slowly succumb to the poison from the dagger stabbed into her.@@jmw1500
Goblin Slayer has to be one of the most realistic portrayals of survivors guilt and PTSD I have ever seen anywhere. He even has the blunted affect common with PTSD. Goblin slayer isn't stoic he is just so damned traumatized that he can't express emotions anywhere near normally because they are so repressed. Goblin slayer has spent the better part of half a decade at that point seeing the most vile fucked up stuff the mind of a goblin can come up with. Killing goblins daily for years on end with little to no breaks. He has saved probably hundreds of people. He has saved so many he is basically a folk hero for the people on the frontier. Called the frontiers kindest because he never turns down a quest to slay goblins no matter how small the reward. But there is also no telling how many people he wasn't able to save which I bet was much more than the ones he could save. When he mercy killed the wizard girl he showed no hesitation. How many times must he had done the same thing to others that he was to late to save to get to the point he didn't hesitate? We will never know. All of which probably weigh on him even if he doesn't show it. Goblin slayer also knows how messed up he is. Which is why he doesn't pursue romance even though he definitely knows at least that Cowgirl has feelings for him. Because on the inside he knows he is a broken shell of a man whose whole goal in life is to make the goblins pay for what they have done, and to save others from the pain he lives with. He knows that even if he were to try to return her feelings he wouldn't be able to give her the relationship she deserves. Let alone if they were to ever have children.
At the moment I feel like this. Despite all the good to help people, there’s always that 1 or 2 mistakes you’ve done to make you feel like it’s meaningless
Honestly with the hair and his class, I figured who his sister was at first introduction. Haven't read all the manga yet but hope he gets more screen time as I kinda want to see if he gets an arc. If not then if well, definitely gave us a good moment and reminder how people still think goblins are nothing
Not wanting other people to go through what he went through is a big part of why he's spent years engaging in a one man genocide. The fact that he's sat across the table from a younger version of himself has to be a slap to the face. He doesn't want another him running around
Yeah people mistake his pain being of having to mercy kill her when its because he failed to save her. He probably feels regret over the lives he is unable to save, but Im sure it hits him twice as hard if its someones older sister. Its like failing his own sister all over again, and those feelings bubble to the surface.
So is Goblin Slayer mad at himself for mercy killing the guy’s sister? It seems like that, and considering what happened to his sister I can see why he feels ashamed.
He felt heavy empathy towards the wizard. That's really the easiest way to explain it, makes it hard for him to essentially repress what he's been ignoring for a long time. I mean the show makes it really clear that this whole goblin slang thing is a cope. A highly productive and useful cope, but a cope to ignore a traumatic experience from his childhood none the less.
It's like a reality check. He thought no big of that and as something normal to do, but when he realized she was his sister, he instantly saw himself in that guy and it hit him really hard. It's the same as being paramedic, and having to deal with lots of people not making it. Then for a reason, you met a person and then realize they're a relative of one of the patients you couldn't save. How would you feel?
I was instantly reminded about how Priestess was saying that they could have saved her, and Goblin Slayer immediately decided that it was too late. I like to also think a big part of the guilt is because Goblin Slayer had antidotes and Priestess still had two healing spells. They could have at least tried and done what they could, but Goblin Slayer was so used to these events that he didn’t.
@@goldengriffiny3694 Even if that is the case, you can clearly see it also got used to draw parallels, develop the Main Character, and more. I ain't even a fan of this show and I got it.
@@durianodialos9387 I’m just didn’t impressed that he had to recycle the trope of acting like rookies and failures in a fantasy story. It’s like they had to repeat the same mistakes and stop coming up new tropes. It’s just doesn’t fit them without enough tricks.
He did what he had to do because she asked him to. But the fact that she was a sister and he lost his own sister to goblins is what's making him break down. No matter how many goblins he kills, he's distraught that people are still suffering regardless of who's fault it is or what people's requests are.
Slayer had no reason to blame himself for her death, but his reaction alone showed that death was still affecting him deep down. Because for him, he arrived a moment too late to save one more soul. He was lucky to save the young priestess, but imagine if he arrived simply a minute later
They both suffer the pain. They both lose their sister.... They both are still alive while they are not able to help their own sister. Same fate, same pain and same powerless......
He is really regaining his humanity but damn😢 When a stoic man cries, you know something major has happened. it is hard to watch him and others go through stuff like this. Gkad spear bro was there for him
i think the fact that he (mercy) killed the sister is... not the issue. because in reality, the older sister was killed by the goblins. there was no way for goblin slayer to save her, or priestess for that matter, with what they had / could do in that situation. Why is he so upset? because he felt like he was doing something. that he was acomplishing his goal. his goal isn't, technically, to Slay all the goblins. that is how he is "planning" to reach his goal: he never wants anyone else to ever be him. he wants a world where no young boy loses his older sister to goblins. he has been working hard, slaying goblins, and actually doing enough of a job at it that he is getting famous. he is generally happy(er) than he has been sense his sister died, things have been going well. but this situation wakes him up, makes him Realize that he isn't going to be able to do what he wants, reach his goal, just slaying goblins by himself. it hits him hard. because he wasn't powerful enough, fast enough. because instead of teaching young adventurers the dangers and how to kill goblins and just killing them himself, that older sister died, and created another version of himself. which is why he goes out of his way to try to raise more people to slay goblins, to teach the young ones to avoid the pitfalls that claim(ed) so many lives going after "pitiful" goblins before, including the kid's older sister.
Imo, Goblin Slayer's reaction wasn't just because of the memory. It was about seeing his reflection in the boy. Not that he cared, but that mage kid is exactly like him as the Elf girl points out. That's what disgusted him the most. He didn't want anybody to end up like him. It's like Robin says to Bruce Wayne in Dark Knight Rises: Everyone "understands", but only those two understand what it is to be angry in your bones, and do the best you can every day to hide your fury. They cope differently. Goblin slayer is cold and to the point, but deep down he's traumatized and angry for life. The wizard kid is rude and impulsive, but deep down he's traumatized, maybe he won't end up the same.
Yeah it was so now I don’t what to say. Should I blame the boy who was in charge of his party and got his party killed in season 1 or Goblin Slayer who is just cold and doesn’t think before doing something reckless.😔😣
the poor thing was condemned to a quick death, much better than a long agony and also if Goblin Slayer really has red eyes we could compare him to a dark version of Bell from Danmachi
Spearman is a true bro, and you can see Priestess connecting the dots. Watching Goblin Slayer fall down in an alley and cry was such a sad moment, in the the end he's only human.
The wizard girl from the first episode asked goblin slayer to kill her as a dying request, because she was slowly dying from being poisoned. Even though it was a mercy kill he still feels bad about killing someone’s older sister, because he lost his older sister to the goblins.
Honestly, this was my favorite scene from season 2. It shows character development. We see Goblin Slayer is not the same "stone cold killer" he was presented as in the beginning of season 1. Not only do we see the regret he feels for taking someone's life(I don't he ever could've foresaw one day meeting her sibling), but now he begins to question whether what he's doing is worth it or not. We see in a later episode that Goblin Slayer's original dream was to become a legendary dragon slayer, but his world was ruined when he saw her sister raped and killed by goblins. He was puny at the time, and there was nothing he could do. Goblin Slayer hated the goblins so much, he decided to dedicate his life to the extermination of goblins. Even if it cost him some of his humanity, it didn't matter because of his pure unbridled hatred and disdain for these monsters who not only show no remorse for all the lives they've ruined, but don't seem to have any reason for doing it, or any good one at least. Goblin Slayer seemed to be doing pretty well for himself, and didn't care what the people at guild the thought of him. And with his party, he could no slay what he hated most more efficiently. But this scene with Wizard Boy made Goblin Slayer have more awareness of what he was doing, and also made him wonder if this whole goblin killing spree he's dedicated his life had even impacted the world for the better, as expressed by his line, "Did you think you've done something? That you've accomplished anything?". No matter how many goblins' lives he takes, more people will continue to be raped and killed. While his intentions and efforts are valiant on paper, it never seems to be enough. His best is never enough. Are all these efforts in vain? That what he questions. Tl;dr this scene shows goblin slayer is human, and is far is not a one-dimensional killer who's only personality is his hatred for goblins. Him questioning if his goblin slaying efforts are in vain is also worth noting.
Wow spear guy is a fucken bro. Dude knows gs well enough to immediately recognize something is off and ask if he’s okay. He may talk big but deep down he clearly cares.
You feel for him. He has one goal in life and has dedicated himself to it with such an overriding obsession he barely has any human interaction. He has done a lot of good and saved countless lives, but in the end, he has to accept this is a problem no one man can possibly fix. It's a bit like someone wanting to solve crime or poverty. No matter how much he does the goblins will still be there long after he's gone.
When I read this part in the book I thought he was about to straight up beat the kid senseless, he was annoying throughout most of the book (haven’t seen this episode yet. Waiting for English dub, bc in my opinion Brad Hawkins is a better GoblinSlayer then Yuichiro.) If I remember correctly in the book he didn’t just cry in the alley, he had a full out rage moment. In anime: lightly brushes spearman off and cries in alley In book: full on shoves spearman out of his way. And rages in alley until he vomits
I don't think it's specifically because he performed the mercy-killing of the sister that he's disturbed: it's more that despite all his efforts and achievements he couldn't prevent someone to suffer the same fate as Goblin Slayer does. He sees himself in the mage-novice.
Once Goblins Slayer gets passed this trauma, he’s gonna have one more notch of rage on his ever growing belt Goblins did this - goblins poisoned her - goblins are why she had to die Ergo, **ALL GOBLINS MUST DIE**
Dude, there literally nothing that could have been done. She's been poisoned and was beyond help. Had he kept her alive, she would have died on the way and the goblins would have killed the priestess if they didn't finish the mission. But instead of blaming yourself, teach the younger brother on what he can do in what his sister failed at
It’s not really about that to him. It really was the only good decision to make and he knew/knows that. But in this moment where a younger brother laments about the death of his older sister to what he thought were goblins, it makes GS have a breakdown. As someone who had seen his own older sister violently killed by goblins he felt that he was no different. He’s already compared himself to goblins before, saying that he’s “a goblin to the goblins”. In that moment he likely feels he became the very thing he swore to kill endlessly, whether or not it’s a deserved mindset he didn’t see himself as a savior/slayer, but killer no different than the goblins
That is legitimately what is happening happening in the story. I don't know if you haven't realized this but Goblin Slayer uses obsessing over goblins to ignore the kind of shit that bothers him that happened in his childhood. Because so much of the wizards stuff lines up with Goblin Slayer his own past it becomes incredibly hard for him to ignore and repress his own unresolved issues. But he is literally doing what you said he should be doing. The part of it that makes it more complicated is the wizard guy doesn't want to take Goblin Slayers advice.
I'd say its less blaming and more seeing himself in the little wizard. GS knows he's fucked up. So seeing his origin story happen to someone else, and by his own hand....
This season saw so many emotions of Goblin Slayer, like here he was crying, he laughed when that Red Hair Wizard and Rhea Kenshi went off their own adventure. That surprised me so much Here Goblin Slayer feels guilty he couldn't save the big sister of Red Hair Wizard. what if he had come sooner. its not Goblin Slayers fault but still. it also kinda reminded him of his older sister too it seems... devastating moment. couldnt hold my tears seeing Goblin Slayer cry... It feels like Goblin Slayers emotions are coming back slowly but yeah. Also how he was talking about his dream with Spearman and Heavy Warrior, How he does all this Goblin Slaying so others can follow their dreams...really loved those moments of this season... i cant wait for season 3... Also Spearman you are a bro....
Spearman ribs Goblin Slayer a lot but respects him. I think he’s just mad because he and GS started around the same time and Goblin Slayer is supposed to be his rival but instead of keeping up with him GS is just killing low level goblins.
Honestly, this really shows the Slayer’s human side, as he realized that this boy went through something similar to him, losing his elder sister to the goblins. And despite being there, he had to kill her, as she was far too gone from the poison, and he clearly regrets not trying more to save her at the time, instead putting her down with cold efficiency.
reminds me of what happened to my old neighbor before we move out from the place, the neighbor is a sweet couple with kind hearted children, the husband worked as a soldier, a front liner even, so he doesn't get home often, kind of like meeting 2-3 years once, so then when I was 10 y.o, I saw him going back home, looks like he was transferred to as an officer, not the front liner again, he's still a sweet loving guy as ever but somehow his aura is dark that even the child me back then noticed, one time there was a new year festive, there was a huge fireworks on the sky at the night, our house doing some celebrating with them until that sir is sweating like crazy, he ran thru the toilet and puke as we heard he scream a bit, that was my fault for lighting the firework, I felt guilty more after we heard the story of how he actually killed few of the enemies since if he didn't killed, he'll be killed what am I trying to say is the GS is somehow similar to my old neighbor back then, he felt remorse for the killing, it somehow his duty for killing but as a human, his feeling is devastated as for seeing another one is killed, this GS actually did a mercy kill but it doesn't change the fact that he killed one's family and he felt bad on it :(
A lot of these comments don’t quite hit the reason right..after the first season goblin slayer genuinely started feeling like he was helping and making a difference up until this point where he’s reminded of both his own sisters fate and the girl he couldn’t save from the first seasons brother ends up having the same trauma that he had to go through which is his whole point of being “goblin slayer”. He wants to save people from ever having to experience what he did and in that moment he failed and felt crushed
I don't like the series so much, but this arc is really really good. Seeing our emotionless MC getting so involved with the story of the young sorcerer, hanging out with other silver ranks and discussing about their dreams, with the thematic of raising the next generations is something I appreciated a lot
