God Emperor Leto: The Most Terrifying Character in Dune! The Golden Path Good or Evil? | Entire Lore 

Excellent explanation bro thank you, the golden path was always a little difficult for me to grasp.

I only read the first 2, but I still know what happens after them. You don't need to know the books to know the lore these days, I even know some of Brian's lore as well. Quinn's ideas is a good channel for Dune lore for instance. You don't need the books to know that the true protagonist all along was Duncan Idaho.

Evil Sex Witches with magic vaginas is when I bailed out. Things start getting very UnHerbertish after the 4th book. Other than it's still my all time favorite book series. My 16yr old sons middle name is LETO 🤣

But Frank was also a huge narcissistic hypocrite too. He himself was charismatic and was never practicing what he preached.

Dewd ! I was thinking something along those lines these past few days, while listening to Dune books' commentaries. Prior to seeing Dune I & II there is this book I was reading: Karma by Sadhguru. In it, among other interesting things he tells us how karma is like memory imprinted on a non-physical drive which survives death of the body-mind and then waits in limbo(not his words, mine) for another moment of conception between two partners that have the similar affinities as its own (since we cannot speak of a gender yet). Besides this, not sure if it is from the same book, or even spiritual tradition, I remember reading somewhere that these tendencies that are repeated habits, recurring thoughts & emotions are ingrained in our genetic(but not just the DNA) memory -which would be better called ancestral memory. These patterns of acting, reacting and physiology are easily triggerable and can surface, especially since we spend so much time our our early, formative life with those who will teach us -not only by their words and advice, punishes and rewards- but by their very behavior which we mimic before our discernment is formed. These habitual behaviors become more and more prevalent in our lives as we get older thus we get more conditioned to our cultural and genetic heritage. The key to not becoming our parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts/older cousins is becoming more aware of our impulses and unconscious tendencies as well as the social and cultural conditioning. As the author put it "distancing ourselves from our karma" That's how I view the ancestral possession as getting too under the influence of our in-built programs, sort of like you start running on automatic.

Also in Sadhguru's book are presented some curious ideas, like how one conciousness can simulaneaosly inhabit 2 bodies at the same time or how 2 "souls" can inhabit the same body and burn two types of karma. I'm not saying this sort of things are easily believable, however if we suspend our disbelief like when reading/watching a piece of fiction then it is worth considering how we are more than meets the eye and that what is presented as fiction may very well be plausible though not for your average Joe.

@@user-zg3gh8xg9v I don't see anything wrong with becoming those things, it's just not making mistake while being those things. See wrongdoings and make it to not do. Many things and habits are positive, trying to distancing from it and from karma is also a form of abomination.

Yeah for me it ends at messiah sorry lol

@@bennycostello2472 lol, no worries! 🤣

True

I bet they will never adapt the Leto stories, not without cutting the chunk of the novels into a quarter

it rages for 30 minutes then total comfort. definitely like a shroom trip. my water turned dark blue

Leto also did this the out the BG plan to have him marry his sister and have a child w/her.

Not exactly. The God Emperor spent thousands of years breeding the ability to be invisible to presence. Preventing humanity from being manipulated by those with visions.

It was much more than that. But I disagree that it would not left the correct bad taste in humanity's mouth. Leto was a hero, so was Paul, no matter what Frank says. And that is not me ''not understanding'', I just hate hypocrites who are themselves writing books and never practicing what they preach like Frank Herbert was.

​@@SenatePalpatinetrolleryou'll probably get hate for this, but I agree with you. If you read the 6 Frank books, the end results of Leto's Golden Path justify his tyranny and brutality. Frank made Paul spout off about Hitler in Messiah to force comparisons, but even Paul eventually comes to regret his actions and realize Leto was gonna do what he never could, even if it meant untold suffering. The moral essentially comes off as "sometimes, leaders become tyrants and brutal for ulterior, utilitarian motives" rather than "be wary of heroes, leaders, and messiahs"

​@@SenatePalpatinetroller😂 no.

He became what we needed him to become. Someone whom we can hate. Who made sure that humanity would never accept being chained up again.

It is not. They will stop at Dune Mesiah (the second book).

I know it didnt happen, but i think mcavoy could have pulled it off with his charisma. And animated if its still done, just animate it ok.

Thats the least freaky thing in this series. Letos fishspeakers have an orgy every year for him

Leto said on GEoD that the BG were the closest he needed humanity to be.

He needed them reformed, as not the worst party if they stopped trying to control the universe?

Yet they never did. Which means they were scared of same scenario of repeat of Butlerian Jihad. It's impossible to control those type of entities, whether they are biological or whether they are artificial, once being becomes fully self aware and sentient, it's impossible to be controlled.

​@@SenatePalpatinetroller True. Life, whether biological or mechanical, uhh, finds a way.

It was actually heavily lifted. Golden path being Eren and the rumbling.

Aaaaaaachtuallly there are extremists in every religion, even Buddhism

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