@@morrighannightshadeERRRMMMM ACKSHUALLY 🤓🤓 they don’t actually have the silly diddly doo in the musical cuz odysseus breaks out of circe’s spell with the magic of his love for penelope (best explanation i can give … alsoo the musical is a loose adaptation so not everything is the same as in the book )
Athena is a genius here, stating traits that Zeus has to remind Hera of Zeus’ frequent escapades to cheat on Hera, then give the redeeming factor of Odysseus never cheating on his wife.
My theory is that she's gonna just ask him him really nicely. Athena is Zeus's fave kid and I think he'll give her what she wants if she swallows her pride and goes full 'rich girl asking daddy for money ' routine. Would be very funny
@@rosefoxwell-morgan4316I'd die laughing if that's genuinely what happens. Cause she does adjust her strategy according to who she's facing, so it'd be hilarious if the strategy was just "pretty pleaseeee"
@@DaddyHephaestus As sick as that would be I dont think it will happen in this form, many songs are pretty stage-unfriendly, plus they would definitely change the cast if they do it since not everyone who is a singer is also an actor, or has the scheduele to perform at the theater
Dude the instrumentals are so good, the way apollos is a lyre, and Hephaestus sounds like it’s natural in a workshop! Can’t wait for more content on this!!
I find it so interesting that both Apollo and Hermes are represented with lyres, but two different sounds, which is a nice homage to the fact that Hermes invented the lyre but traded it to Apollo (for something I can't remember rn)
@@keenahgamboaYeh! That's why I like that Hermes' lyre sounds organic while Apollo's sounds off (can't figure out how to explain it, not electric or inorganic but doesn't sounds like a natural sound) since Hermes is the original creator and Apollo gained it through a transaction (in the technicality that Hermes was making up for the cattle)
@@SingingSealRiana She's literally not allowed to target him over it. she tried once and failed. It's why instead she punishes his lovers (which he never stipulated against)
I guess Athena moved on from “I’m not looking for a friend” with Telemachus, how sweet! And she was totally hustling Hera when she saved “he’s never cheated on his wife” for last. You know Hera locked eyes with Zeus when she heard that too
Since Apollo is Lvl1 he's going to be really easy to convince xD My bets are either Athena will name-drop Artemis or say something about Odysseus' legend becoming the biggest greek epic poem (which is true). And since Apollo LOVES poetry, that will enough.
I love it when the Olympians fight each other. Not just in God Games, but also in the Rebellion of Olympus, where Hera, Poseidon, and Apollo led the gods against Zeus.
Apollo LOVES poetry, hence the lyre being his main symbol. I bet Athena saying "his story is going to inspire the biggest epic poems" (which is true) is going to be enough to convince him.
We only hear him for one line that has ONE word (so far, ofc he gets his own part but we haven’t heard it) we’re not sure if that’s literally the only song he shows up in, or if he’ll show up again later, but DAMN Apollo’s voice is SO GOOD. It’s my favorite already, right next to Polites’. They’re just so GOOD
Lmao I love that in the source material he does cheat on his wife but Epic Odysseus gets a pass to be released because he didn't cheat Edit: I've been given more context this since comment and yes I would say Ody didn't cheat. He mightve died if he didn't sleep with those women. He gets a fat pass. The original comment is for humor, please don't take it seriously
I have a VERY close friend of mine, and we are both HUGE Epic fans. We usually take our gendered parts(he takes males, I take females. Odysseus is an exception, we switch around that one). God games is the song we look forward to the most out of all future songs because it has so many different parts for people. Hope this releases sooner than later ❤
Who is here after underworld saga? Given what I saw in the first song and how Aphrodite trash talked about Odysseus and his mother make me hate her. And Ares… Now I don’t know the full context of the Scylla in Epic but try yourself to fight her if you are so brave
Athena: "You want more blood, then set him free." Well, that aged like a fine wine. Also I really like Ares's line: "Really, Athena, this old trick?" Sounds like your typical big brother when they talk about their sister. LoL.
People are hyped for Apollo's part, but seem to forget that Athena is the bff of his twin sister Artemis 😂 Bet is not going to be a battle at all, just him saying "i got your back because i don't wanna piss off my sis".
Calypso was quite explicitly non-consensual. It states directly in the Odyssey that he did not want to but was forced to. Circe... I might call that dubious consent? I've seen arguments both ways that sound reasonable. That said, I am curious about Circe in this one. The song 'There Are Other Ways'... I'm curious where he'll go with the rest of the song.
Guy is trapped on iskands with woman of power, one who had his crew as hostages the other literally has him trapped on an uncharted island. Poor dude is getting racked over the coals for years by people with power when he just wants to go home.
@@yf-n7710 circe promised to spare the lives of his men and turn them back into men if and only if he lay with her in the Odyssey. Open and shut case of coercion preventing free consent.
Ares talking shit about how Odysseus's methods for winning the war were cowardice, yet all the gods were manipulating the war behind the scenes and gmabling with everyones lives. Please piss off🙏🙄
If you mean Circe or Calypso, I'm pretty sure his "relationship" with both was very much not consensual, at least in the musical (in the Odyssey the situation with Circe is a bit more ambiguous, but I would argue it's still more dub-con than anything else). I wouldn't say Athena lied.
@@puck4274 I’ve read multiple times that in The Odyssey, Odysseus’ scenes on Calypso’s island was him crying about not being able to home and I know that the Circe thing was most likely nonconsensual (some would even say SA) but I’ve never read The Odyssey- but yeah, Athena wasn’t lying
In both circe & calypso's cases, Odysseus was R*ped. Circe held the fate and lives of his men over his head, and only promised to let him go should he lay with her, which is clearly coercion. Calypso, meanwhile, literally cast a love/mental domination spell on Odysseus AFTER the gods sent him back to the island over and over again each time he tried to escape over the decade he was with her. Calypso goes so far as to admit to it and apologize at the end of his captivity, saying the gods made her do it. At no point was he a willing participant with free will and reasonable knowledge of his actions.
@@WitchingofSpace No, yeah, with Calypso there's zero room for interpretation. The man was miserable on her island and it's explicit in the Odyssey that she forced him to share her bed every night. As for Circe, I say it's a bit more dubious because he technically did sleep with her out of his own free will-but also she was a goddess who was holding his men hostage and the text has Hermes literally tell him that she WOULD try to seduce him and that he HAD to let her if he wanted to get himself and his men out of the island, so like, you know. Not exactly a shining example of enthusiastic consent.
@justClaya Shakin the bars of the palace gates rn, desperate to hear Apollo's part. Can't wait for the underworld to release so we'll get jus a lil closer (but there are also some bangers there too)
