All the respect to you. Those who love truly love so truly not because it is expected of them or their religious inclination dictates it so. "The son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners" why say this in such a way if, knowingly, he died for the sinners? I thought that was the point? Carrying that weight and dying in sacrifice that all would have eternal life. "Forgive them for they know not what they do" Then why point out and objectify, in the prior sentiment, that they are sinners, casting out their sin, before dying for their nature? Isn't that a hypocritical oxymoron? Did Jesus love sinners enough to live, preach to, and die for them, or did he not?