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God Hates the Sin and the Sinner - Tim Conway 

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It's a very unpopular thought to consider that God hates sinners. But this is how a holy God feels about those who live in rebellion against Him. And we must remember this: if God hates a person, it's precisely because that person is hate-worthy.
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@illbehonest
@illbehonest 5 лет назад
For those struggling with grasping these truths, please hear the full sermon that this excerpt is taken from, "The Rarity of Christ's Love": ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LDvGf-mCUpc.html
@peaceinjesuschrist4987
@peaceinjesuschrist4987 5 лет назад
Your message has caused a lot of division which is not of God, & if there's more to this message then don't post just half. I pray a sinner who does not know the word of God does not come on here and hear this and feel it's hopeless that they can't repent because God hates them and commit suicide. Jesus never once taught or preached My Father Hates you. How is this telling them God hates them winning souls to the Kingdom of God? Jesus did not come to save the church, for the church already has a physician, but there's people out here in this world that are dying without Christ Jesus as their Lord Saviour and he is there physician. People are dealing with fear, depression, panic attacks, etc....& this message would push anyone who doesn't know God's precious word over the cliff! If you're going to post something like this at least let him know there is a way out and that way out is through Jesus Christ and by Repentance. This is just crazy. I pray for you.
@JonathanJony167
@JonathanJony167 5 лет назад
Thank you so much I really needed to hear desperately . Is a topic that needs to be heard. Please keep preaching . Gods wrath and pusnishment something that we must know. Is vital.
@JonathanJony167
@JonathanJony167 5 лет назад
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987 I understand what you're saying, but maybe staying positive and sweet loving sermons inhibits us from accepting the inconvenient realities.Fearing God is Wisdom.Tims sermons are for people who are looking for the truth. God is our saviour but also a Judge . We need to understand Gods wrath. We all going to be judged. We all sinners. But we dont know how wicked and evil we are and Tim is making me realise that. and thats very important. There is steve furtick and td jakes were the lukewarms can watch but Tim is only one of the few who actually telling the reality
@pauloluwamayowa1422
@pauloluwamayowa1422 5 лет назад
@@peaceinjesuschrist4987 Good evening Sister , CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS PLEASE : 1. When God destroyed all of mankind and spared only Noah and his family, was Jesus Christ in agreement? 2. When God destroyed sodom & Gomorrah was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement? 3. When God said he hated Esau, Was Jesus Christ present and was he in agreement with the rest of the God head? NOW please answer the remaining questions linked to the passages below. Revelation 6:15-17 (KJV) 4. Who are these men hiding from? 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 5. Who is the Lamb referred to in this verse & why did the people prefer the mountains & rocks to fall on them? 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from THE WRATH OF THE LAMB : 6. WHO’S WRATH IS SPOKEN ABOUT HERE? 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Thanks Sister, eagerly expecting your response
@enotstehw
@enotstehw 5 лет назад
@@pauloluwamayowa1422 May I ask you this question. Why would an all knowing god, be fearful of humans that plan to build a tower to heaven? see Gen 11:6 Now any 12 year old human know that it is impossible for humans to build a tower to heaven, and your god is too stupid to know this. Thus proving that your god is nothing more than a cultural tribal made up god.
@Proklame
@Proklame 5 лет назад
If it wasn’t for the grace of God, we would all perish.
@peaceinjesuschrist4987
@peaceinjesuschrist4987 5 лет назад
Amen to that.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
Yes but there will be people will perish. God had given Grace for us to repent but some refused to come to the light.
@PricelessBinkey1337
@PricelessBinkey1337 3 года назад
We are perishing
@Highley1958
@Highley1958 3 года назад
You are full of crap, right up to your eyeballs.
@thepanda1044
@thepanda1044 2 года назад
Which god
@claudeabraham2347
@claudeabraham2347 Год назад
I never tell people "smile, God loves you." What I say is "God will not be mocked. Either we repent or face serious consequences."
@claudeabraham2347
@claudeabraham2347 Год назад
@@mf-ud1uo someday you will care.
@jmitch9269
@jmitch9269 Год назад
He is correct. Even if you don’t want to hear it or think it’s not “nice” to preach like this. It is God’s Word and Truth. “BUT”GOD ! Is probably the best word in the entire Bible. God gave us by His Grace and Mercy a way to be saved from His Wrathful Justice 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Proklame
@Proklame 5 лет назад
Most people don’t want the God of scripture. They would rather Have a God in their own image and likeness.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
FIVE SOLAS. AMEN. Many Many people do not know the God of the Bible!!!!!! And because they don't so they come against those who preach the truth. This man is speaking the truth!!!
@christianstuff1278
@christianstuff1278 5 лет назад
@@meliamehalafihi4821 well if you know the truth Maybe you can answer my question. What happens to babies that die? Are they saved? Because this man believes that babies go to hell, but what do you think?
@aheartonfire7191
@aheartonfire7191 5 лет назад
Christian Stuff he said that he didn’t think so.
@christianstuff1278
@christianstuff1278 5 лет назад
@@aheartonfire7191 he did? Where? Because he said in his "age of accountability" video that babies go to hell
@christophgouws8311
@christophgouws8311 5 лет назад
The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion. - Psalm 11:5
@mandolinJo
@mandolinJo 4 года назад
1 John 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwells in ,(them) and they in God>>>>God bless You >>In Jesus name >> In this i believe there is an afterlife
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
Guess you're just a perfect person
@christophgouws8311
@christophgouws8311 2 года назад
If quoting the Word of God makes you perfect then I suppose you're also perfect💪
@Andyelmasry
@Andyelmasry Год назад
"But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8"
@vitoasaro4663
@vitoasaro4663 Год назад
Although this is very true. GOD's love won't stop HIM from sending people to hell
@Andyelmasry
@Andyelmasry Год назад
@@vitoasaro4663 Hell is separation from God, God gives us all every chance to see His love and be with Him, He said that if anyone tries to go to Him, He will "by no means cast them out" If people decide to push Him away their entire lives, they sadly continue to live without Him eternally :( may God help us remain with Him always
@doug5441
@doug5441 Год назад
This is true. Yet, this does not make Psalm 11:5, Psalm 5:5, and Psalm 10:3 untrue.
@NilsWeber-mb5hg
@NilsWeber-mb5hg Год назад
@Lords child It says God (past tense) LOVED the world
@NilsWeber-mb5hg
@NilsWeber-mb5hg Год назад
@@Andyelmasry Hell is NOT separation from God. It is the inescapable presence of His wrath and anger.
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ 5 лет назад
The one who loves you most is the one who tells you the most truth." -Paul Washer
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 5 лет назад
One who loves would first take responsibility in knowing the truth before speeking it. The world will boast in knowing the truth falsely, and so will sometimes Christians like Tim.
@nollavangreunen8794
@nollavangreunen8794 5 лет назад
we are people... make all men Liars and God the truth! stop judging and start praying more! we must build each other up and not break down! as lomg as we keep our eyes on christ!
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
The truth is that God hates sin and sinners
@geness9676
@geness9676 2 года назад
@@rubenthompson5900 VERY TRUE 👍
@freespirit7450
@freespirit7450 2 года назад
I lie to people so they dont get hurt.
@DavidDouglasToth
@DavidDouglasToth 5 лет назад
This is talk/sermon is a new perspective to me. It does make sense in the my mind that if you love God you will accept his Son, your heart will be change, your actions will be changed, then God won't hate you or your actions (sin). Outside of that path there is no salvation.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
Yes. God doesn't hate those that belongs to him. But he hates those who are keep on sinning and don't want to repent. Cos that's why Jesus came and died so that we died to sin
@jenss.3613
@jenss.3613 3 года назад
Please PRAY for me. I need help.
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
@@jenss.3613 hi Jens what are you going through?
@jenss.3613
@jenss.3613 2 года назад
@@madeforhisglory5866 long story, cut short: I committed adultery. I don't feel good. Will God forgive me?
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
@@jenss.3613 ok well you don't need much help. Of course He can forgive you. Just repent.
@TennesseeYankee
@TennesseeYankee 5 лет назад
Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. EIther the Bible is right, or Conway is. I'll go with the Bible.
@messianictruth4653
@messianictruth4653 5 лет назад
the bible also said god hates sinners
@followerofchrist1961
@followerofchrist1961 5 лет назад
Read Psalms 5:5.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
CHRISTIAN TRUTH God loved Jacob But Hated Esau
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
The problem with the statement-“God loves the sinner, but hates the sin”-is that it is misleading. It is not a false statement. And what is misleading about it is the word but, but hates the sin, because but should be and. God loves the sinner and hates the sin. But implies he doesn’t hate the sinner-that is not true. God does hate sinners. Psalm 5:4: “You are not a God who delights in wickedness. Evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes. You hate all evildoers.” Or Psalm 11:5: “The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence.” So it is just not true to give the impression that God doesn’t hate sinners by saying he loves the sinner and hates the sin. He does hate sinners. His wrath is real. It is not something he pours out on people he approves of
@abideinchrist1673
@abideinchrist1673 5 лет назад
God revealed to me to be soft and humble and from a place of love when I go out and speak to people wherever I go..He said too many evangelists were too tough or angry or mean and that He doesn't mean for me to be that way to be careful and guard my heart.. so this is like hmmm...to me God bless you all! Glory be to God! I love You Jesus...Amen...
@rightoncuedeano
@rightoncuedeano 4 года назад
Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV) 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalm 5:5 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=Psalm%205:5&version=KJV
@annetteholland1438
@annetteholland1438 3 года назад
Psalms 5:4-6, For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee. The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the Lord will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
@KeithThompson52
@KeithThompson52 5 лет назад
Love brother Tim, this truth needs to be said and explained often!
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
people are saying that God is not capable of hate.
@thejdog139
@thejdog139 5 лет назад
@@tamitha20 I know
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
Amen
@jenss.3613
@jenss.3613 3 года назад
Please pray for me
@adonai554
@adonai554 5 лет назад
Jesus said to the adultress woman , go and sin no more, he didn't say go, to hell you sinner, God is love, merciful, and he doesn't want anyone to perish. God does hate sin, but if he hated the sinner, Jesus wouldn't have died for our sins. God is holy and also God is a consuming fire, but he is angry at the sin of this world and it's evil. God can't hate the sinner because that would mean everything he did for us on the cross was in vain. Those who reject Christ and willfully do are in danger of the wrath of God. But those who are born again and are really true children of God will find mercy. Please don't say that God hates sinners you are leading people who want to genuinely know God not want to seek him, because you say God hates them. God is love and we should show love to those who don't believe in God so they can see that we truly are disciples and brothers and sisters of our Father. God is love.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
you have to understand that anyone who is NOT born again (not having the Holy Spirit of God) DO NOT BELONG TO GOD. Read Roman 8:9
@jtbtdlkt2012
@jtbtdlkt2012 5 лет назад
gennyarod329 oh it is far worse than that friend! He has His sword sharpest, bow drawn back and pointed at the chest of the unregenerate. God’s wrath and anger are absolutely justified; that you would see that attribute of God as being unfit for worship shows a lack of understanding of Who God is.
@kingshabba6363
@kingshabba6363 5 лет назад
No one is going to Hell, God loves us all right?
@adonai554
@adonai554 5 лет назад
@@kingshabba6363 God loves us but God hates sin. So he can't send sin to hell so we go to hell because we chose to sin and reject Christ.
@kingshabba6363
@kingshabba6363 5 лет назад
@@adonai554 Those who choose a sin, aren't they sinners?
@f_s_m
@f_s_m 3 года назад
“Do you think that I like to see wicked people die? says the Sovereign LORD. Of course not! I want them to turn from their wicked ways and live. Ezekiel 18:23 If the Lord hated the sinner he would not want the sinner to live but rather the Lord says he wants them to turn from their wicked ways and live and in fact came to fulfill the law through his blood shed for everyone who would call on his name because of His love for us even while we were his enemies for the Scriptures say "This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." 1 John 4:9-10
@kb27787
@kb27787 3 года назад
Let's see a similar verse, shall we? Say to them: ‘As I live,’ says the Lord GOD, ‘I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?’ (Eze 33:11)--this verse is basically a repeat of the one you quoted (and mind you, continuing from that passage, go on to read verses 18:24-25... you can see the passage is addressed to Israel as well in v. 25) You know, I never read "turn, why should you die, O multitudes in ancient China and India" anywhere in the Bible. The fact that these messages were written to Israel, and Israel only easily proves that God is certainly not inclined nor required to give the other nations any similar warning (until the Gospel age) if it so pleases Him.
@blessed2338
@blessed2338 2 года назад
@@kb27787 what's your point exactly?
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Exactly. They need to repent to avoid God's justice and judgment. He loved them enough to make a way
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Don't forget the verses talking about the unrepentant and the wicked.
@NikkNakk83
@NikkNakk83 4 года назад
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. Psalms 5:5 KJV
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
I'm sure your perfect Nikkole Harrell good for you ! 👍🏻
@NikkNakk83
@NikkNakk83 2 года назад
@@madeforhisglory5866 Stop telling on me. 😁
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
@@NikkNakk83 such meekness and humble nature you embody
@NikkNakk83
@NikkNakk83 2 года назад
@@madeforhisglory5866 Thank you! 😌
@ramezesmedina
@ramezesmedina 3 года назад
I love it. I love the message. Very edifying.
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
I'd prefer a non biblical message that says i can party all week and drag my butt into church just long enough to get a good nap and rest up for another week. Hoping to learn nothing about my sin and how I need salvation and repentance :)
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
You love this ? Is there any love going on in this speech
@forerunnerforjesus1291
@forerunnerforjesus1291 5 лет назад
God is a God of wrath as well a GOD of love. We must rightly divide the Word. This man is speaking the TRUTH Please read the scriptures this man is speaking the truth from for yourselves. I pray the Holy Spirit gives everyone revelation of this TRUTH of God.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
Praise God I find a comment that agree with this man. Yes this man is speaking the truth.
@aharon6035
@aharon6035 3 года назад
Hi sir I'm sorry I was so later finding this video and you. Scriptures Isaiah54 verses 9 and 10. If your father Ehye was ever a power of wrath, he made a promise after the tender shoot of Isaiah 53 put his love down, in 54 that there would be NO anger in the same as no flood. In 55 he stayed this is free for his holy people because of what he said to David. In 56 he stated no foreigner bound to Yahuahh can say he will exclude them from his people. Ie this is for everyone. Isaiah54'9-10. If you want other scripture from one who reads the bible we can state our scriptures, and since scripture cannot be set aside, we can divide the word of truth to find the line that expressed both sides properly.
@Matthew-bu5pq
@Matthew-bu5pq 5 лет назад
Don’t understand how people can deny this with the many many scriptures that support pastor Conway’s position on this
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 5 лет назад
Many more scriptures plainly go against Tim. To personify God's justice as "hate" makes sense in context. To personify God's justice as "mocking" makes sense in context. Especially since the pld testament did not ser Jesus, a main focus on the old testament was justice. But Tim taking is out of context to try to push his own agenda for shock value. Thats not right.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
people think that God is only capable of love and not hate. if we love babies, then we hate abortion.
@aheartonfire7191
@aheartonfire7191 5 лет назад
tamitha20 Bam. Got em
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 5 лет назад
@joashsmusic Christ never contradicts himself. If your interpretation of the Bible contradicts Christ teachings, you are wrong and need to reinterpret any said passage.
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 5 лет назад
@@aheartonfire7191 Problem is abortion is an action, not a person.
@danielcanlas6046
@danielcanlas6046 2 года назад
This preacher gives no hope to those who are lost
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Repentance is their hope. He clears up a false teaching spread around. The Bible is clear on this. You give your son to a mob and have him crucified to make him the object of justice for the mob's sin. Then the mob still doesn't care? How would you feel? God is just to hate the wicked
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Really? How about repent? That is the hope
@reedtodd2404
@reedtodd2404 2 года назад
@@rocketsurgeon1746That isn’t his message, his message is your hated by God. All people are sinners and he says God hates sinners. Even the man after Gods own heart, David, was a sinner. This is a message that God hates you for being lost there isn’t any hope in this man’s false teaching.
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
@@reedtodd2404 listen to the video again. You are hearing what you want to hear. God hates the wicked and unrepentant. He loves the sinner that repents. God sends the unrepentant to the lake of fire with satan. That is called judgement.
@reedtodd2404
@reedtodd2404 2 года назад
@@rocketsurgeon1746 I haven’t damn said God doesn’t damn people to hell or that he doesn’t love repentance. And you keep saying everywhere that God Hates the wicked people. Psalms says God hates the wicked and psalms is the private notes of Solomon and David not the word of the God through the prophets. Is the New Testament, which says God loves sinners and that we are all sinners, wrong. You are uneducated and don’t know what you are talking about. Also I have rewatched the video and Tim Conway is just making himself look more and more like an idiot.
@crucifiedwithchrist9367
@crucifiedwithchrist9367 3 года назад
By the long suffering of God we weren't all killed the moment we first sinned. God is Holy, mankind is wicked. We deserve nothing but eternal justice, but God delights in giving grace to the humble.
@crucifiedwithchrist9367
@crucifiedwithchrist9367 3 года назад
@Capt. E. Wells What have you done to deserve anything other than divine retribution? What makes you so special?
@crucifiedwithchrist9367
@crucifiedwithchrist9367 3 года назад
@Capt. E. Wells What do you think you deserve, Heaven? Only perfect people deserve Heaven. But undeserving sinners can be granted what they don't deserve through the mercy & grace of God. God will actively resist you until you call upon Him in repentance because He only gives grace to the humble.
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 года назад
This is a weird concept for me god creates sin then creates man to sin then tells man he hates them and the sin and is unworthy so he holds his creations accountable for his actions ?
@KingAries85
@KingAries85 2 года назад
@@crucifiedwithchrist9367 don’t be so hard on yourself I’m sure your not as bad a person as your god makes you out to be
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
@kelseykjarsgaard5774 2 года назад
Maybe sin is psyop for the human mind
@Gabriel.1985.
@Gabriel.1985. 5 лет назад
AMEN!!!! Very much biblical indeed.
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689 3 года назад
All i see in this comment section are people who lack a basic biblical understanding of who God actually is. They've a made a god who suits their wants in their mind and they don't know the God of the Word. Jeremiah 9:23-24
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Very well said
@redghost3170
@redghost3170 2 года назад
Exactly
@alexmusser7482
@alexmusser7482 5 лет назад
Matthew 9:36-38 says Jesus felt compassion for the lost souls of Israel. Guys we need to stop with this idea that we cant tell people "God loves them". Its just ridciulous, the bible is so clear on it. John 3:16 the simplest reading means he loves the world and thats the whole point. He died for all and the free gift of eternal life is open to be recieved by anyone through faith.
@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay
@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay 5 лет назад
Alex Musser But what exactly does 'faith' require to be saved and accepted? Christ talked about lukewarm Christians being rejected.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@alexmusser7482
@alexmusser7482 5 лет назад
@@tamitha20 I never said God doesn't hate sin or the sinner but its also just as biblical to tell people God loves them. Its not some kind of paradox - both are true
@alexmusser7482
@alexmusser7482 5 лет назад
@@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay The word faith is a synoym with believe. Galatians 3 shows that. So faith is placing your trust solely in the person and work of Jesus Christ. Lukewarm christians in Revelation 3 were already saved - they were a church
@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay
@Peter-JesusIsTheOnlyWay 5 лет назад
+Alex Musser Faith is also dead without works. Well put, it is about the church. And sometimes the church preach a watered down version of repentance which results in a different doctrine than the one given of God through Jesus. I also read your reply to +tamitha20 which is good and I agree that two things are addressed here #1 God's wrath; and #2 God's grace. If I understand Conway's message right he is pointing out that people don't fear God as they should(Correct me if I'm wrong.)
@jewishbride5010
@jewishbride5010 2 года назад
I loosen myself of all God hates, loosening myself of every unequal yoke and common share with those God hates, in accordance with proverbs 6, psalm 7:11, 2 corinthians 6:14-15 and this whole message, in the name andblood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah!
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
How are you loosening yourself? By repentance? I'm confused by your comment
@MrKrasnox
@MrKrasnox 4 года назад
In that sense, how do you cope for instance with Eph. 2,1-5? "1 And you were dead in the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience- 3 among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved" Or Romans 5,8: "but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us." Similarily Luke 15,11-32, verse 24: "For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found." Furthermore, as Christians, we still sin. Simul iustus et peccator. How does that fit into the idea of God hating the sinner? In my understanding this would lead to righousness by works. You would be responsible to stop sinning, so God could love you again. Obviously this contradicts the whole gospel, so what am I missing? - It's right, God has every right to hate the sinner and we as sinners deserve to be hated by him. But isn't exactly that the gospel, that Jesus died for our sins, because God actually does love us?
@36742650885
@36742650885 5 лет назад
For God so LOVED the world that he gave
@illbehonest
@illbehonest 5 лет назад
Right, the Lord had to give His Son to satisfy His divine wrath that was justly due towards sinful man. The reason God so LOVED, is because of man's sin and God's just anger towards the sinner. In order for God to be just and justify sinners He had to satisfy His wrath (Romans 3) and that is why Christ died. Thanks be to God!
@breezyfriend1
@breezyfriend1 5 лет назад
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv 5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You HATE all workers of iniquity. 6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
@123wiley
@123wiley 5 лет назад
""Loved"" past tense
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
For God so loved his law
@calebgibson55
@calebgibson55 3 года назад
@@123wiley ??
@nathanoppy
@nathanoppy Год назад
This is some good truth right here! May God lead us all to repentance and help us with our willful sins
@elenamatso4281
@elenamatso4281 4 года назад
God in the flesh of Jesus died for peoples’ sins not because of hate but because of love ! Hate brings punishment love brings forgiveness. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬
@user-yv3lr9xj9z
@user-yv3lr9xj9z 3 года назад
We are enemies of God in our natural state. The Bible states that God is angry with the wicked every day. He loves us enough to die, but He burns with fierce anger towards our rebellion. People are cast into the Lake of Fire, not just their sin.
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
@christophgouws8311
@christophgouws8311 5 лет назад
I think we should just clear the air. God loves sinners but He hates sinners. What I'm saying is He loves sinners who come to Him and acknowledge their sin and grieve and repent, He stands with open arms and tells them to come to Him. But the self-righteous, judgmental, unrepentant, spiritual proud, religious sinner He hates. It's clear from the Bible and I think any true child of God can understand that. How would you feel if a proud person who says he knows you and loves you spits in your sons face, then tortures him and kills him in a brutal way right in front of you and then try to cover it up and carry on being friendly with you as if nothing happened? I'd be pretty upset and I'm a sinful man. Imagine how God must feel towards all who reject His son. Brother you've God nowhere to hide from an angry God.
@peaceinjesuschrist4987
@peaceinjesuschrist4987 5 лет назад
I agree with what your saying....but this man needs to let them know God does love their Souls & wants them to repent of their sins. ..only way to God the father is through Jesus Christ , they must Repent & turn from their wicked ways indeed or they will be cast into the lake of fire & brimstone. The way he's teaching God hates you , you can't repent. Yet in 2nd Peter 3:9 KJV God plainly says He wants none to perish, But that ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE. why? Because God Love's their Souls.
@peaceinjesuschrist4987
@peaceinjesuschrist4987 5 лет назад
& I unsubscribed from you, glad your not my pastor. I even posted this and this is going viral people cannot believe that you're claiming God hates them. WOW UNBELIEVABLE.
@shawncard7226
@shawncard7226 5 лет назад
Peace in Jesus Christ I unsubscribed as well. God repented over 25 times in the Bible. God has no sin in him he is light in him is no darkness. Salvation is a free gift through Christ. Only Jesus Christ was and is perfect.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
I just want to know where does it say in the bible God lover sinners and hate sin. Tim has provide scriptures . We have to remember is not the sin that will throw to hell is the sinners that will get thrown to hell.
@jtbtdlkt2012
@jtbtdlkt2012 5 лет назад
Meliame Halafihi they won’t find the verse, but I’m sure they can show you a meme or bumper sticker! That is the state of American Christianity and it is a sad issue. For a pastor to preach The Gospel, unfiltered and undiluted, and have this much backlash from “Christians” (I don’t doubt most of their faith, I guess just their maturity) is exactly what The Bible says would happen.
@TheKingsChannelOfficial
@TheKingsChannelOfficial 3 года назад
Glory to GOD. Hallelujah.!
@jd2931
@jd2931 4 года назад
Romans 3:23, NIV: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,"
@Psalms-fr8yy
@Psalms-fr8yy 5 лет назад
Watching Tim Conway gradually led to anxiety and shame. The good news is that Christ died for all our sins and we will not be condemned even if we sin!
@messianictruth4653
@messianictruth4653 5 лет назад
depends on your heart. The bible does mention that you can be blotted from the book of life if you dont overcome.
@Psalms-fr8yy
@Psalms-fr8yy 5 лет назад
How does one overcome?
@Psalms-fr8yy
@Psalms-fr8yy 5 лет назад
@@messianictruth4653 Please read anewdaydawning.com for information about how this does NOT mean heaven.
@TheEndTimes
@TheEndTimes 5 лет назад
HisGraces Saves by believing that Jesus is the Son of God
@matchit0419
@matchit0419 2 года назад
We seem to forget that God knows past, present, and future, God knows who is chosen and who is not. God hates the wicked and loves the righteous, though He hates the self righteous, those who are like the pharisees. Alot of people seem to overlook the story of Jacob and Esau. Before the two were born God stated, "Jacob I love Esau I hate." God before time has made an inheritance for His elect. When you make an inheritance, no one can be added to or taken away from that inheritance. Predestination is proven multiple times throughout scripture. It is not our will to love God but it is God's will. You see, in John 1 12-14 it states that it's not the will of man, but the will of God we are His. It's by the grace and the love of God people are chosen not our own. A man can say "I love Jesus I love God." It doesn't mean God or Jesus loves them back. In 1st John it states the signs if you're saved or not, ask yourself "Do I have the fruits of the Spirit?" Ask "Do I truly love God or do I just say I do?" Ask "Would I truly give my life for God like Jesus did for us?" Ask "Am I truly being sanctified away from my old nature?" Ask "Am I battling through spiritual warfare?" Why did I say ask yourself if you're struggling through spiritual warfare? The enemy doesn't tempt those who are unsaved, he doesn't need to, why hunt something that's already dead? The enemy enjoys tempting Christians. The only time I think the enemy attacks those who are unelected would be possession. By the way, christians cannot be possessed because christians are filled with the Holy Spirit. How to tell you're being sanctified is, you are losing your old desires over time. When you have the Holy Spirit within you, your old self is dead, your old self has been crucified with your old desires. Now you're made new, more Christ Like Roman's 6 dead to sin alive in God. Do you have the fruits: Peace, Joy, Love, Patience, Self Control, etc? Would you truly give up everything for God even your life?
@CityThatCannotBeCaptured
@CityThatCannotBeCaptured 5 лет назад
Praise God that He is a God of justice, that he hates sinners. Praise Almighty and wise and loving God for his judgement. People who reject this message do NOT know God at all. 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
@johnkim8259
@johnkim8259 4 года назад
Christians became hippies after the 60's. Look at the previous 2 thousand years. Christians were crushing it through war and conquest. Jesus said to trade in your coat for a sword.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
I have seen so many people here quote JOHN 3:16. That's great. But make sure you read the rest of the verseS after verse 16. So you can fully understand the context. Yes Jesus died for our sins. And because He died now we are to die to sin also. And if we continue to keep on sinning and knowing Jesus had done the work on the cross. Then God is not with you. Don't think that Jesus died and think that we can continue to sin because he died for our sins. You deceive yourself.
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
@Don Donald Thank you!! Sanctification of the Holy Spirit in our life is a process.
@nickwadson5731
@nickwadson5731 4 года назад
Ah the sinless perfection doctrine....it is INSTANT and NOT a process of sanctification. Let me guess, Romans 7:14-25 is Paul PREconversion???
@dankorot7400
@dankorot7400 3 года назад
John 8:11 | She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Awesome story. Think it had to do with her being repentant? Or did Jesus just turn a blind eye to sin?
@ashleyoakley2771
@ashleyoakley2771 4 года назад
Hebrews 10:31 King James Version (KJV) 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
@danielcanlas6046
@danielcanlas6046 2 года назад
Yes God hates the sin but He loves the sinner and thats why He gave His one and only son,to die on the cross and rose from the dead so that through Christ we may have life and we are forgiven,and yes God is just but He is mercifull.and also it is true that we dont deserve His love but still He gave Himself up for us all "sinners" and Gods wrath will remain to those who remain wicked and unrepentant stoned heart and do not accept Jesus
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Does God love those who deny His Son? Does He love those who hate Him when they stand before Him in judgment?
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
@@sonofliberty02 don't be a deceiver with questions like that. Prov 6:16 is for people like you. God hates lairs, deceivers and those that sow discord among the brethren.
@redeemingthetime5600
@redeemingthetime5600 5 лет назад
A human being finds God's love at calvary. You reject calvary, you reject God's love for you forever.
@Jay-md4vy
@Jay-md4vy 5 лет назад
Wow great video
@TheJoker-uy6tj
@TheJoker-uy6tj 4 года назад
For God so LOVED the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@internetastronaut4973
@internetastronaut4973 4 года назад
@@rubenthompson5900 but gift of God is Life eternal
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:18,36 - www.biblegateway.com/passage?search=John%203:18,36&version=KJV
@jakeabbatacola5092
@jakeabbatacola5092 2 года назад
And “world” means…….?
@TheJoker-uy6tj
@TheJoker-uy6tj 2 года назад
You.
@jakeabbatacola5092
@jakeabbatacola5092 2 года назад
@@TheJoker-uy6tj I’m a world?
@4godofchrist766
@4godofchrist766 3 года назад
Good job pastor conway for not sugar coating the truth
@scottwade3832
@scottwade3832 3 года назад
Yeah, whiplash those sinners with your tongue pastor they’re listening!!
@scottwade3832
@scottwade3832 3 года назад
Praise the Lord send those sinners to hell hallelujah!! I hate myself for the LORD!!
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
Thanks so much for this loving speech I feel so encouraged to continue to try and follow a God who hates me so much..all because I was a rebellious teenager...thank goodness my earthly father loved me unconditionally but that's all the love I'll ever have
@KevinKurzsartdisplay
@KevinKurzsartdisplay 2 года назад
Yea, behold, we’re all going to hell. Thank you truly “loving” god, thank you for the gift of eternal damnation. That’s why I gotta enjoy every day of my life
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
It's a lie bruh If God really hates sinners he wouldn't save us nor Jesus will come here to sacrifice for our sins
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
Rom. 8 Verses 38 to 39 [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@KevinKurzsartdisplay
@KevinKurzsartdisplay Год назад
@@justinetiberio8137, yes, but god only loves us when we believe in Jesus. But the truth is that god doesn’t give a damn about us, he only loves us as slaves, property, servants, it’s all the same thing. I would even argue that god loves satan more than us, that’s why god created so many people for them to be given to the devil and his demons so that they can torture us all they want. I don’t expect you as a Christian to believe what I say but I’m telling you, that’s the truth. I know that there are a lot of Bible verses that tell us otherwise but they have a twist to them.
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
@@KevinKurzsartdisplay If he really hates sinners then all of us would be in hell right now no chance of repentance and look how wicked humans nowadays so wicked but God have mercy and loves them if he's not he would already causes a rain of fire here on earth and this world is already destroyed long time ago you need to change your mind man God is love
@tullythebully5539
@tullythebully5539 5 лет назад
May God help us.
@breezyfriend1
@breezyfriend1 5 лет назад
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv 5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You HATE all workers of iniquity. 6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
@vareenaswihart4409
@vareenaswihart4409 3 года назад
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on... A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out. Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope. Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted. The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda. All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things. Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ! Please note in the Old Testament: Ezekiel 18 (NKJV) 21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy. In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity. The rainbow is not a sign for humans; it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ. PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ. He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ. Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son. God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God. And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins. Matthew 28 (NKJV) 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. What did Jesus Christ teach? Romans 3 (NKJV) 23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 6 (NKJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. John 3 (NKJV) 16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life. 1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV) 9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath, but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV) 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV) SO much more to say... But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either: 1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or 2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
@faithgarcia5428
@faithgarcia5428 2 месяца назад
If god could hate something he made then he is a bad god and unworthy of praise
@adirafearsjesus7778
@adirafearsjesus7778 5 лет назад
He says to cease from evil. Repent of sin we need to stop sinning
@ForensicPI
@ForensicPI 5 лет назад
Thank you Pastor Tim, shared it on my site.
@rob4692
@rob4692 3 года назад
Amen Holy Holy Holy tim conway ur a hell Fire🔥 preacher ty for not sugar coating not many will enter the kingdom of God im Arch Angel Heb 13:1-2 Ps 91:11 Ps 103:20
@scottwade3832
@scottwade3832 3 года назад
Hallelujah! Beat THOSE sinners!!!!!
@tomkingg
@tomkingg 4 года назад
If God hates sinners, why then does He command us to love our enemies if He doesn't do the same?!
@seekthetruth762
@seekthetruth762 4 года назад
Do you love the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him?
@tomkingg
@tomkingg 4 года назад
@@seekthetruth762 No, I love Jesus
@seekthetruth762
@seekthetruth762 4 года назад
@@tomkingg So don't tell me you love your enemy and you don't love the sin but the sin and the sinner. As Muslim we love jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them. That's the teaching of Islam. Why do you hate the prophet Mohammed peace be upon him?
@tomkingg
@tomkingg 4 года назад
@@seekthetruth762 I love my enemies so I don't agree with the video. God loves the sinner but hates the sin. I don't know about mohammed cause he's not in the christian beliefs, only Jesus
@seekthetruth762
@seekthetruth762 4 года назад
@@tomkingg Do you love muslims?
@stevetucker5851
@stevetucker5851 4 года назад
I’m finding it very hard to love a god that hates me, so I guess I’m going to Hell.
@sricardo02
@sricardo02 4 года назад
Steve Tucker he loved you so much he took the punishment you deserved on the cross
@johnkim8259
@johnkim8259 4 года назад
You are considered a reprobate. Narrow is the path to heaven, and it's not for you.
@RisenPhoenix68
@RisenPhoenix68 4 года назад
@@johnkim8259 YES! HE is the reprobate and YOU ARE PERFECTLY RIGHTEOUS!!! How typical.
@von111
@von111 4 года назад
I'm a rational thinking Christian here. I know for a fact that God himself does not hate, he loves. He teaches, he watches, he doesn't hate; but he doesn't want you to sin, either. If you find yourself sinning for whatever reason or possible mistake, it is totally fine to ask Jesus for forgiveness. If I sin, I pray and ask for forgiveness. I don't know why other fellow Christians make a big deal out of it, humans make mistakes and God knows that. But don't sin, I try to keep that in mind. Asking for forgiveness also makes me feel better as a person in general. And I will always say this, love the sinner, not the sin! Also, I can guarantee you that you aren't going to hell, none of us are. :)
@RisenPhoenix68
@RisenPhoenix68 4 года назад
@@von111 I am. Don't you know that the Church of Christ teaches that salvation is conditional upon baptism? I was never saved according to their doctrine. I have been waiting for death for the last 20 years in deep depression.
@Andrea-nr1vk
@Andrea-nr1vk 5 лет назад
verdaderamente éste video es una bendición...
@Freethinkingtheist77
@Freethinkingtheist77 24 дня назад
Consider this question: What comes first - the love of God for the sinner or the sinner's repentance?
@jennamarielovesjesus12
@jennamarielovesjesus12 5 лет назад
So happy the Lord lead me to Pastor Conway. Praise GOD for Real Truth preachers especially nowadays
@LIFEWITHWILLAM_
@LIFEWITHWILLAM_ 5 лет назад
Jenna Saglembeni yes he teach the Bible for real I am thankful to God to leading feeling free
@Psalms-fr8yy
@Psalms-fr8yy 5 лет назад
Thomas Cucuzza...the good news is simply believing... Calvinism causes anxiety because it puts the focus on oneself to stay faithful instead of the Lord.
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 лет назад
I am more grateful to the Holy Spirit teaching me, correcting me and Guiding me. He taught me this which is priceless to you. 1 Corinthians 2:5
@Psalms-fr8yy
@Psalms-fr8yy 5 лет назад
@@The72Rabbit The Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth and reveal pastors who speak the truth.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@CORNERSTONECITY777
@CORNERSTONECITY777 5 лет назад
The Bible says we should hate the sin but love the sinner, yes scripture says people are enemies of God while unsaved but it also say for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. God says he has no pleasure in the death of anyone, so to say God hates the sinner also would only drive people away from God. People need to understand that God is God and should be feared , for he has the power to destroy both body and soul in hell, be he is very willing to help and save anyone who comes to him, we need to remember the devil is the bad guy, God is the good guy in all of this, but he has rules and has made a way for people to come to him, it is the individuals hatred of God that leads them to destruction , not Gods hatred of anyone.
@messianictruth4653
@messianictruth4653 5 лет назад
He hates sinners who have no mind to change
@RussianBot4Christ
@RussianBot4Christ 5 лет назад
He judges them on earth and in he'll to no end, not hates them emotionally. He is not a pety God changed up by a creature. In destroying the sinner he shows his justice, not his hate.
@jcgrace1000
@jcgrace1000 5 лет назад
Where does it say that I'm the bible
@meliamehalafihi4821
@meliamehalafihi4821 5 лет назад
If we are going to quote John 3:16 We must also keep reading the verseS after that.
@godislove5799
@godislove5799 2 года назад
Amen and Amen… some people have misunderstood this phrase and they only wanted to hear God loves you without highlighting the His son, only son have to die for the sinners, if that was not done then we are all condemned in hell because God is just and Holy…
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
You need to change your mind it's a lie if God really hates sinners he wouldn't save us not giving us second chance to repent nor Jesus will come here to sacrifice for our sins
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
Rom. 8 Verses 38 to 39 [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@Proklame
@Proklame 5 лет назад
5 And I heard the angel in charge of the waters say, "Just are you, O Holy One, who is and who was, for you brought these judgments. 6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink. It is what they deserve!" 7 And I heard the altar saying, "Yes, Lord God the Almighty, true and just are your judgments!" 8 The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire. 9 They were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory. (Revelation 16:5, ESV)
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 лет назад
If God hates the sinner, he would never have sent his son. I can get stuck on a pasage of scripture and especially in the Old Testament. I have completely took out Our Savior. Judgment day will be very difficult for those who do not have Christ as their defense attorney.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
God sent His son so that He can love us. If it wasn't for Jesus, God would hate everyone. think about it. It is only because of what Jesus did on the cross that allows God to be able to love us.
@Wesley-ci8qk
@Wesley-ci8qk 5 лет назад
@@tamitha20 very wrong, very I Unscriptural
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
Oliver Lloyd you have no right to tell me that i am wrong. you are wrong. you are probably a sinner unwilling to repent
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
Oliver Lloyd if God doesn't hate the sinner, why does he send them all to hell for eternity?
@Laineys48
@Laineys48 5 лет назад
tamitha20 God sends no one to hell, by our sinful nature we choose to go to hell, hell was made for, Satan and his cronies.
@paulinaisabella98
@paulinaisabella98 3 года назад
Hello, I’ve been going through a hard seasons where I fell into deep sins as well as a lot of spiritual attacks from the enemy. At times it was hard to tell if it was Gods anger on me or the devil hurting me. It has been going on for some time. When I first got a better understanding of God, I heard different ways of describing Him but I always kept that any revelation of God Jesus Christ is in the word. I have read the word and wanted to really seek and understand who He is and who Jesus is and what He did. I went through seasons of also questioning feeling if I was truly saved. I knew it is by faith but I was still so confused and fell into work’s ignorantly. To this day, I am still a bit confused as to if I truly received Christ or if I’m deceived. I feel hopeless like I was denied salvation when I asked Jesus in prayer to help me understand His word. It’s hard to have faith when I’m not sure who I’m believing because I feel as a result of being ignorant and even not commune with believers in a church for a while to grow spiritually, I was a target for the enemy to come with deceptions and lies that really harmed me. I became so discouraged I just stopped praying, reading the Bible and I just gave up to a degree in seeking Jesus. I feel this may be that I simply don’t understand the Gospel and that I was deceived to think I believed. I still don’t understand the true God. Is He mad at me? Does He hate me? Does He not want to save me. I even went as far as to curse at Him saying it was His fault because I was just so mad and I know that was wrong to have done all that. I feel so tired and I still haven’t been able to experience any freedom and what is so good about the good news. Perhaps I went through so much sorrow from feeling deeply hated by even Jesus Christ that that I depressed my spirit heavily...
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 3 года назад
I'm in your same boat
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 3 года назад
@Selim Vasquez-Lopez what happens when your desire and love are gone because of going through this?
@corywiedenbeck1562
@corywiedenbeck1562 3 года назад
@Selim Vasquez-Lopez please do my whole life came crumbling down after finding out I might be an apostate
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Definitely a good sign if you care about your relationship with God. Being around others that love God and His Word is important. Get everything that is bad out of your house(bad movies, music,etc). Sit down and read the Bible each morning starting with the book of John. God has saved sinners far worse than you. He loves to save to lost. We all are. Repent and move forward with God's promise :)
@Proklame
@Proklame 5 лет назад
4 For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you. 5 The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. 6 You destroy those who speak lies; the LORD abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:4, ESV)
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ Год назад
One of my favorite videos
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ Год назад
@MisotheismKing I can see why you would think that!
@EricSmyth4Christ
@EricSmyth4Christ Год назад
@MisotheismKing he is a Calvinist; so he believes a lot of proof texts I would argue to steelman his case that God loves those he hates God loves even the worst of us more than we love the best human That doesn’t mean God doesn’t hate humans as well God is very complex
@GlocKGanG
@GlocKGanG 5 лет назад
Amen. Keep preaching the truth brother 🔥
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 лет назад
When I confront a sinner, I share Gods love to them as a means of watering and planting. I really do not threaten them that they are going to he'll. Everyone I have talked to really has had someone done that in their past. I do explain the differences between the devil and Jesus in John 10:10 very clearly. I like what Paul spoke of in scripture. Should I come to you with a whip or a kind and gentle spirit. Remember, we are to be wise as serpants but harmless as doves. For years I did not know how much Jesus loves me. I should have been dead a long time ago. But I am alive today to share the love of Christ and the message of Christ, knowing I am accountable to God for everything. Truly ... Mercy Triumphs over Judgment. May I be that example of Christ in everything I do as Jesus said twice in Matthew ... I desire mercy and not sacrifice.
@jerrytatum
@jerrytatum Год назад
We all have heard that God loves The sinner, but hates The sin. But God would have to hate the person sinning , sin would not exist without a person who sins. He destroy The person in His judgment, not just The sin .
@TheFinalJigsaw
@TheFinalJigsaw 7 месяцев назад
God is to be GREATLY feared
@a.krishna3924
@a.krishna3924 5 лет назад
Now if this is the gospel truth, I will accept it. Seems biblical to me. But my question is, how do we preach this truth in a way that causes godly sorrow, not wordly sorrow? How do we bring the fragrance of Christ, not the law when we preach this?
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 лет назад
The world understands hate. What they lack seeing in Christians is Gods Grace. If I talk to Christians today about Sodom, most would say they are in hell. From Tim's message ... I would hear him say the same thing. But that is NOT what Jesus said. I won't share the truth when some people in this group do not understand the price paid on Calvary because Jesus loves us so much. If you do want to know what Jesus said about Sodom, message me. May Gods Grace through His Son grow in you always. Truly Mercy triumphs over condemnation and judgment. This is what the world cries out for when all else fails. Gods Grace and Mercy.
@Gabriel.1985.
@Gabriel.1985. 5 лет назад
We don't do it. The Holy Spirit does. We preach the truth with love it's up to God to do with the word and save those whom He has chosen.
@a.krishna3924
@a.krishna3924 5 лет назад
N Zivkovich I guess we have to preach both equally then. Because only one sided preaching will damage the church instead
@livingwater7580
@livingwater7580 5 лет назад
calvinist CANNOT preach the GOSPEL of grace because they say you have to repent "OF YOUR SINS" and not repent of UNBELIE, I'll prove that yhe sin of the world is UNBELIEF, Jesus said in John 6 that when the holy spirit comes he will Reprove the world of SIN not SINS, what is the SIN, "OF SIN BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE NOT ON ME", the sin issue was paid at the cross so that no one has an excuse not to believe, the issue now is UNBELIEF, Jesus said to the pharasees you will die in yoir sins if you believe not that i am he ,you will die in your SINS, John the baptist said BEHOLD THE LAMB OF GOD WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE "SIN" NOT SINS OF THE WORLD. calvinism is a dreadful and deadly disease that has influenced many to work for SALVATION. be blessed and believe that Jesus died for the whole WORLD and having only a mustard seed of FAITH you can can be saved by his grace through FAITH in CHRIST, the gospel is to everyone and anyone, its free will.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@joewells3690
@joewells3690 Год назад
God is a JUST GOD! Yes God is Love! The Bible is highly misinterpreted! God didn't send JESUS to abolish his LAW. He came to uphold it! If ye be dead to sins, how can you live anymore in sin. Quoting the bible in attempt to JUSTIFY one's Sin is HYPOCRISY and WICKEDNESS
@yousraadly7341
@yousraadly7341 4 года назад
True that , that why God prevented to even sit and chat with some types of those from his blaclist .dont you just feel looooved for just loving God .praise heavens ☺☺😃😃😃😃😃true believers are just amaizing ❤
@arthurjacobfuentes7671
@arthurjacobfuentes7671 2 года назад
People NEVER asked to be created . Esau I feel sorry for in a way because God had it out for him before he was even born.
@donnadaly3303
@donnadaly3303 5 лет назад
What are you talking about? God is long suffering not willing that ANY should perish. I am glad I grew up knowing the truth and not listening to such foolishness. He tells us to love our enemies yet he hates us???? NO!!! False teaching!!!
@GFGS_55
@GFGS_55 5 лет назад
I hear how you feel, but what he says is true. Remember God resists the proud and are close to the humble. Jesus said the Pharisees were the children of Satan, that is all of us who have not been saved by Jesus's Grace. John 6 shows how followers left Jesus due to His hard teachings, the desciples asked Him then "How can anyone accept it?" John 6:60 and "How can anyone be saved" Matthew 19:25
@breezyfriend1
@breezyfriend1 5 лет назад
Psalm 5:5-6 nkjv 5 The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; You HATE all workers of iniquity. 6 You shall DESTROY those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.
@36742650885
@36742650885 5 лет назад
Noah Troub where do you stand in the balance of Gods scales of justice?
@blissfulbeautyfull-mess5125
@blissfulbeautyfull-mess5125 5 лет назад
Sorry he's ducked in the head
@Lved6
@Lved6 5 лет назад
Our human definition of hate should not be what is spoken of here. Maybe more clarity is needed on this one. I agree, but in the sense that because of the righteousness and holiness of God mankind will never measure up. His holy vengeance must be exacted upon us because of who He is. Our redemption from this vengeance (which is also holy and not comparable to human vengeance) is by grace through faith in the washing redemption of Christ’s blood. This is the only way we will be presented faultless before the throne. Without it, we’re guilty and worthy of damnation. Gotta love the truth of God’s Word. It will 100% set you free.
@evakotch502
@evakotch502 3 года назад
This is something I have been talking about with my partner for some time and I asked God to help me. Some scriptures shows that God hates sin and a sinner or wickedness and a wicked person then some show that God loves the world but then 2 John 2: 15 says Love not the world neither the things of the world and if any men loves the world the love of the father is not in him, then whoever becomes friends with the world is an enemy to God which clearly shows that believers should be different (holy) and not love the world. There's also a saying that we are all children of God but then Jesus in some of his preaching said the Pharisees father was the devil himself and that they are not children of God, like that scripture about lying, if you lie you are just like your father the devil. Then there's a scripture that says he gave them right to be called Children of God, he who has the spirit of God in him is a child of God. In Ephesians 2: 1-15 it is clearly illustrated (verse 5) that by nature we were (taking about believers) childern of wrath, son of disobedience, following satan, carrying out the desires of flesh and in verse 5 But God being rich in mercy, bcz of his great LOVE WITH WHICH HE LOVED US, EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN OUR TRESPASSES, MADE US ALIVE TOGETHER WITH CHIRIST. From that scripture I gathered something about God chosing his own out of the world, those he loved even when they were sinners and subjected to the warth of God but then what about the rest of the world, those who are unbelievers, are they still his people, loved by him? This is a complex issue and I believe we should find the meaning of the "World". Nontheless, the questions remain unanswered: 1. Are all the children of God (believers and non-believers) 2. Does God loves a sinner or a wicked person and not their deeds (sinning -disobedience, and rebellious) if the wages of sin is death which shows that sin is costly.?
@madeforhisglory5866
@madeforhisglory5866 2 года назад
What a lovely story..what a beautiful loving speech..I feel so much love here ..how about you? Love love sunshine and rainbows!
@illbehonest
@illbehonest 2 года назад
This clip clearly deals with another aspect of God's character--for a video on the love of God, please hear this :ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Lo6b4dckj5A.html
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
It's a lie Rom. 8 Verses 38 to 39 [38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, [39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@justinetiberio8137
@justinetiberio8137 Год назад
If God really hates sinners he wouldn't save us nor Jesus will come here to sacrifice for our sins
@paulluce2557
@paulluce2557 2 года назад
If God hates both Sin and Sinners.. why did he send his Son to die ?
@jakeabbatacola5092
@jakeabbatacola5092 2 года назад
You’re Bible will tell you. Go there to find answers, not RU-vid comments.
@michaelpark5764
@michaelpark5764 2 года назад
8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. -Romans 5:8 God is a God of wrath. But, He is also a God of love. To understand how He can be both, look at the Cross. There He poured out His wrath, His hate for sinners, onto Christ. Christ absorbed the punishment we, as sinners, deserve, because He loves us. This should make sense to the redeemed because they realize that their sin is offensive to God (Psalm 51). For the non believer, this should stand out as the only truly kind act anyone has ever done and should drive them to repent and trust in Jesus Christ as Savior and Redeemer.
@VYMQGSOH
@VYMQGSOH 2 года назад
His word says He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but He does get pleasure through His Son receiving a bride from His Father and to be known and worshiped by those who were once against Him but God has made their hearts new to love God and His ways. Basically, yes God hates sin and sinners as they are one and the same, yet God would rather send His Son to take the punishment everyone deserves for the sin they committed, and they have nothing to offer that can even come close to paying that debt to satisfy the wrath of God. Only Jesus could pay the debt, God can't just ignore it because He is just, and a just judge doesn't let a criminal go free after committing their crimes and found guilty. Once has paid the debt for our sins, then we can be made right with God if by grace through faith in Christ we would be saved, which comes from hearing, understanding and believing the Gospel correctly. Then we would be made new creatures that God doesn't hate and rather loves for He would make us like new creatures, with new desires, new affections, making them more like Christ, those people will drastically be different from who they were when they were just a lost sinner. God hates us in the beginning, but that's not the way He wants it to be, He would rather save us and love us. He hates us because in sin, we're worthy of being hated, but when Christ has paid the debt for our sin, and God has made us like Christ and washed our sins away and remembers them no more, then we are made worthy to love because of Christ and what He has done for us, to us and through us for His Father's will.
@Jaggedlionteeth777
@Jaggedlionteeth777 2 года назад
@@VYMQGSOH sinners and sin are not the same thing. Adam and Eve were pure at one point so therefore humans are not sin unless your calling god a sinner for creating the sin called humanity. what your saying is that god is a sinner. blasphemers like you need to be corrected. if humans were sin that means the cross was in vain and because we are sin we cannot change and repent. even though god told us to.. your playing with fire keep going and you will get burned. note that I didn't say we aren't sinful. we are sinful but are aren't sin otherwise god had sinned. god made something good and the devil turned it corrupted. it repented the lord that he had made man on the earth. but does that mean god sinned? NO!!!!!. it means god felt bad for his creations and he wanted to spare us by putting us out of our misery. bt god had plans for Noah and his family. so they ended up being saved.
@RaFGuy
@RaFGuy 2 года назад
@@VYMQGSOH made worthy to love? But God demonstrates is own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8 He loved us before we were made right. His love isn't a result of a cross, the cross is a result of His love
@lindiemills5697
@lindiemills5697 5 лет назад
?? Maybe.... "God hate sinners"... Is not the way we understand " hate"....this is scary!!??.....I just cannot rap my head around Christ hating people the way we hate!!?? We in the last hour, I for one, am veryyyy weary of just excepting a teaching, even if you giving a scripture verse to it, because scripture gets taken out of context over and over.... Yet, I have always liked and trusted Tim...but this one?....I will have to come before the Lord and slow the Holy Spirit to show me.....
@AbrahamKoshy
@AbrahamKoshy 5 лет назад
God’s ‘hate’ is just and righteous. Its an outcome of His justice and holiness. It’s not like human ‘hate’ which is sullied with emotions and coupled with sinfulness. Both should never be compared. Unlike God, man can never love and hate at the same time. God is a just Judge and loving Father at the same time.
@krackmusik97224
@krackmusik97224 5 лет назад
There's that one Psalm who says that G-D abhors the sinner
@Wesley-ci8qk
@Wesley-ci8qk 5 лет назад
GOD can be provoked to hate.... But you can sniff error and heresy in this teaching... Be very careful. Notice, I said God can be provoked to Hate, because that is in the Bible... BUT it is very different to assert that he hates all sinners in the same way.... Very very different.... Look at the Ministry of Jesus towards sinners, do you suppose that was born out of a motivation of hatred? No! Hatred is in the Bible, but they pick the fewer verses it is. Go look up hatred in the Bible, then go look up love.... There is a monumental difference between the two. So Hatred should be put in its right place, not here how there using it
@messianictruth4653
@messianictruth4653 5 лет назад
Oliver Lloyd Jesus did come for the sinners but he hated those who were sinners for refusing to change.
@Wesley-ci8qk
@Wesley-ci8qk 5 лет назад
@@messianictruth4653 God is willing no one should perish
@language_of_christians3438
@language_of_christians3438 4 года назад
Psalm 103:10 --- he does not treat us as our sins deserve or repay us according to our iniquities.
@estherjesuslebt3254
@estherjesuslebt3254 Год назад
Yes thank you
@shailja2060
@shailja2060 4 года назад
God sacrificed his precious son to save a sinner like me . Read the Bible. Discern the truth . Pray so that you could distinguish the word of God and false preaching. Somebody tell this man - the name above all names - Jesus.
@johannes6760
@johannes6760 4 года назад
You’re right. God hated His son for that moment. He would be just to hate people, he’s God and he could intentionally hate us and it would be in his parameters.
@dahliasuchino6554
@dahliasuchino6554 4 года назад
God hates sinners. Romans 5 says sin must not be the master of your life because you are not under law but unde grace.
@eziorobetthesecond4776
@eziorobetthesecond4776 4 года назад
so you guys also thin this guy is a false preacher ?
@eziorobetthesecond4776
@eziorobetthesecond4776 4 года назад
@@dahliasuchino6554 so God hates you cause a sinner is someone who sins and all humans sin even when they do except Christ .
@booboobear1268
@booboobear1268 3 года назад
Wow this is something This is like me when I was a teenager watching Friday the 13th
@learning.growing.1017
@learning.growing.1017 3 года назад
But on steroids.
@howardnore1336
@howardnore1336 Год назад
This is great information Pastor, thank you
@thepanda1044
@thepanda1044 Год назад
Love me or I'll hurt you. God's love is not unconditional.
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
As we read through the Psalms one of the things we have to deal with is the frequent mention of God’s hatred for wicked people. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. (Psalms 5:5-6 ESV) How do we make sense of such a statement? We can’t simply say, “God hates the sin but loves the sinner” because that plainly isn’t what the text says. The text says that God hates the sinner. “you hate all evildoers.” (v.5) “the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
@christophgouws8311
@christophgouws8311 5 лет назад
The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion. - Psalm 11:5
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
Christoph Gouws exactly. thank you for this.
@peaceinjesuschrist4987
@peaceinjesuschrist4987 5 лет назад
No wonder your messed up....come out of that satanic book. God loves their souls hates their sins. God wants none to perish. He sent His only begotten Son Jesus who was sacrificed for their sins, sickness, etc...cause God Love's all & wants none to perish. Yes they must Repent & turn to God Almighty or yes they will face God's Wrath.
@christophgouws8311
@christophgouws8311 5 лет назад
What satanic book? The Bible?
@tamitha20
@tamitha20 5 лет назад
Peace in Jesus Christ you telling me that i am messed up is not a Christian thing to do. Can you imagine Jesus telling people that they are messed up? NO. some of the fruits of the spirit is patience and gentleness. you telling me that your blood is boiling is something demonic. we are all just trying to learn about God. it doesn't seem like you are at peace if your blood is boiling. be patient and let's learn from each other as opposed to getting mad which is not Christian like at all. stop allowing Satan to influence your communication with your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. calm down.
@salvipanda9646
@salvipanda9646 2 года назад
Thank God for preachers of the truth, because they don’t tell people what their itching ears want to hear.
@burningheartsministriesmis1488
A missing truth needed today.
@-ThePREACHER-
@-ThePREACHER- 3 года назад
Yup - God HATES sin. So if you STILL sin - He HATES you. He WARNED you. John 8: 34 "Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin *IS THE SERVANT OF SIN."*
@Rbigraff
@Rbigraff 3 года назад
Why we were yet sinners Christ died for us. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son
@Rbigraff
@Rbigraff 2 года назад
Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever.
@danielcanlas6046
@danielcanlas6046 2 года назад
@adam_4_18 then?
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
@Collin Lutz study up on repentance. That is the key. Simple turning away from sin. Not perfection, but wanting to do what is right in God's eyes
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
We still have to repent
@donaldcoleman514
@donaldcoleman514 2 года назад
according to the bible what world is he talking about Isaiah 45/17 but Israel shall be saved by the most high with an everlasting salvation ye shall not be ashamed or disgraced world without ends that's the world unless he name some other world
@Freethinkingtheist77
@Freethinkingtheist77 24 дня назад
Okay, we need to get some balance here. Yes, the Bible talks about the hatred of God and the wrath of God and, yes, we need to fear Him. But we need to balance this out with the truth of God's undeserved love. Consider the following: Romans 5:8 "God shows His LOVE for us in that, WHILE WE WERE STILL SINNERS, Christ died for us" Ephesians 2:4-5 (after Paul has declared all mankind obejects of wrath): "But God, being rich in mercy, BECAUSE OF THE GREAT LOVE WITH WHICH HE LOVED US, EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN TRESPASSES, made us alive together with Christ" 1 John 4:10 "In this is love, NOT THAT WE HAVE LOVED GOD BUT THAT HE LOVED US and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins" If God does not love the sinner then these verses are a lie and we are without hope. This does not minimise the hatred of God against sin, not reality of judgement or hellfire but sometimes, in my view, reformed preachers (of whom I am one) can neglect the balance that the Bible itself gives.
@gaagsl
@gaagsl Месяц назад
When I saw my firstborn, minutes after he came to this world. I was actually thinking about the idea of original sin. That was the moment that I found this doctrine revolting. My son was offensive to a god holyness, just for the mere fact that he exists?. My son is not perfect, but the love that connects me to him is. I can assure you, that love is not your god. I despise Christianity for this, because it demands parents to prefer God holyness over their children. A god that demands that, is not a good God. This pastor needs you to believe this, because his status and his lifestyle depends on your fear. When you are afraid, you don't question anything, this is why the ideas of original sin and hell don't go away.
@timmay1154
@timmay1154 Месяц назад
Infant damnation is unbiblical. David said he would go to the child God took. This message was not about infant damnation. It was about what God will do to the sinner without Christ.
@gaagsl
@gaagsl Месяц назад
@@timmay1154 That's not true. An infant is a sinner, according to your Bibble. This is why god commanded and sometimes he did it himself to kill women and children in the old testament. Are you going to deny that? "Nobody is innocent" remember? Because he only cares about "his holyness". When I was a Christian, I often found myself tap-dancing the same way, you guys do when you can't justify the actions and words of this god. A good god doesn't objectify his children. He had a son with the only purpose to kill him. That is like raising a turkey with the expectation of eating it for Thanksgiving, and that was his "beloved son" ? What the hell is wrong with Christians? You are worshipping a psychopath.
@cheezymatt890
@cheezymatt890 16 дней назад
@@gaagsl i dont think u grasp the concept of how sinful we are.
@Ben94729
@Ben94729 7 дней назад
Mike winger has a video explaining biblically why babies go to heaven using the Bible, look it up.
@zacknelson9036
@zacknelson9036 2 года назад
God is like my sore throat it hurts and there is no help for it
@doni1460
@doni1460 2 года назад
What happened?
@Hughmungus0909
@Hughmungus0909 4 года назад
Why create man if God was just going to hate most of us?
@AleksK37
@AleksK37 4 года назад
You will not be satisfied with any answer until you know who God is. He is not a man and does not behave like a man.
@emgwin2028
@emgwin2028 4 года назад
I thought god made man in his own image?
@shaunm9963
@shaunm9963 4 года назад
He doesn't, this guys shooting off the mouth his wrong interpretation of scripture. Preacher who preaches bullshit, hes no man of God.
@vareenaswihart4409
@vareenaswihart4409 3 года назад
If you feel discouraged and defeated by this video, please read on... A person dear to me who watched this, now believes he is eternally doomed to hell with no way out. Earnestly seeking God, he heard this and is now left without hope. Such tragedy when the nature and the ways of God is distorted. The enemy's racket that only serves his agenda. All praises be to God Almighty, please know that this is not the gospel message, instead it dangerously omits the powerful truth of Jesus' last exhortation to His disciples - teach ALL things. Please know that there is HOPE, REDEMPTION, FORGIVENESS, and ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ! Please note in the Old Testament: Ezekiel 18 (NKJV) 21 “But if a WICKED man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 NONE of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. 23 Do I have ANY pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” says the Lord God, “and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Our Creator God is NOT an angry monster seeking to destroy. In fact, after the flood, He made covenant with HIMSELF through the rainbow as a reminder to Himself that He would never send a global flood again to destroy humanity. The rainbow is not a sign for humans; it is a sign for Himself as a reminder of His own covenant of LIFE and PEACE with us available through Jesus Christ. PLEASE read Romans 8 - there is NO condemnation in Christ Jesus, and NOTHING can ever separate you from God's love through Jesus Christ. He desires for everyone to repent, turn their hearts to Him and receive forgiveness and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ. Our Creator God is perfect LOVE - demonstrated by Him making the ultimate sacrifice in order for humanity to receive eternal life as a free, unearned GIFT through the death and resurrection of His Son. God's desire is for ALL to join His family into all of eternity, adopted children of God. And Jesus Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE exactly because He is the only key to the Father having paid in our stead the penalty of death (wrath of God satisfied) that we all deserve for our sins. Matthew 28 (NKJV) 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen. What did Jesus Christ teach? Romans 3 (NKJV) 23 for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 6 (NKJV) 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law. 29 Or is He the God of the Jews only? Is He not also the God of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also, 30 since there is one God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. John 3 (NKJV) 16 For God so LOVED the WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son, that WHOEVER believes in Him should NOT perish but have everlasting life. 1 Thessalonians 5 (NKJV) 9 For God did NOT appoint us to wrath, but to obtain SALVATION through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him. Romans 5:8-9 (NKJV) 8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be SAVED from WRATH through Him. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13, NKJV) SO much more to say... But it would be best if the author of this video would have the Godly courage to either: 1. Preach the whole gospel and bring LIFE and HOPE to all those who are so deeply discouraged by this message, or 2. If in fact this was part of a longer message that contained the whole gospel giving HOPE through Jesus Christ, please remove this video.
@abrahammunzar5927
@abrahammunzar5927 Год назад
Well said!
@mandolinJo
@mandolinJo 4 года назад
Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
@Wesley-ci8qk
@Wesley-ci8qk 5 лет назад
Listen, there is truth in here, but lies also. His analogy of the flood, using it to. Prove God hates sinners, is Operating from another manor of spirit... Notice, after the flood God was grieved. Why would he be grieved? because he loves mankind, but they were wicked. God didn't make a mistake we know this. GOD can exercise judgment and still be grieved because he is love. A human judge will do the same, he make take pity on the accused but Justice calls for punishment. The. Judge can be loving and still send people to electric chair. Don't define God by his punishments tim. So Tim is taking this out of context, this analogy shouldn't be used to prove hatred, but rather how God can be loving and still punish. God was angry because he is JUST, not because he is hate. His initial dealing with these people was to love them, to cherish them, God's nature is to love and give. But they became wicked and Gods anger grew. And yes God can be provoked to Hate. But judgment and hatred are results of sin, but his nature is Love
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 лет назад
I know what you are saying Lloyd. So much hate and no love. It's like I am nailed to the Cross with Jesus.
@rubenthompson5900
@rubenthompson5900 3 года назад
His nature is Holiness, not love
@JacobMichaelYost
@JacobMichaelYost Год назад
I know for a fact that God hates sin. How could he love the evil someone does? It's impossible for Him because He's good.
@user-ry7xz8ko1d
@user-ry7xz8ko1d Год назад
How are people able to love sinners and doesn't care about their sin friends family know you aren't perfect and they know your flaws are you more holier than God? Are you more loving?
@ilynpayne7491
@ilynpayne7491 3 года назад
I studied religion when I was in the seminary and believe me the only thing that made me distrust God is the Bible itself once you start reading and start to make sense of the scriptures is when you realise that we have a cruel GOd
@footsoldier1188
@footsoldier1188 3 года назад
Why is that? Maybe you are reading things out of context
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
You were either asleep at seminary or you went to a crappy seminary. Try reading the Bible. You'll figure out giving His son for those that crucified Him was not cruel
@Barr.JoyO.
@Barr.JoyO. 4 года назад
O Lord i abhor them that are in rebellion against you
@kylegering
@kylegering 2 года назад
Psalm 11:5 The Lord tests the righteous, but his soul hates the wicked and the one who loves violence. Hosea 9:15 Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels. Everyone who thinks that God loves everyone unconditionally and doesn't hate doesn't understand love or hate. Love is not a warm fuzzy feeling, it's actionable. It's patient, kind, longsuffering... 1 Corinthians 14: 4-8 It doesn't say love is a feeling, love is happiness. Love may cause those things, but those things are not love. So God can still show his love for us by sending Jesus down to suffer His wrath in our stead, without being wrong in hating wicked evil abominable people.
@ronaldopante
@ronaldopante 3 года назад
The comments shows the difference between the 🐑 and the 🐐
@Lichtgeschwindigkeit196
@Lichtgeschwindigkeit196 3 года назад
Please remember all the teachings that Jesus said about loving our enemies and blessing those who curse us, because if we only help those who love us, then we don't nothing extraordinary, remember what the Bible says in Matthew 5: 38-48
@illbehonest
@illbehonest 3 года назад
illbehonest.com/love-your-enemies-and-seek-to-do-them-good-tim-conway
@rocketsurgeon1746
@rocketsurgeon1746 2 года назад
Please remember that God will command His angels to cast sinners into the lake of fire because of unrepentance. He hates the sinner. He loves the repentant
@jeremynethercutt206
@jeremynethercutt206 5 месяцев назад
I have NO GOOD , APART FROM CHRIST, from The HOLY spirit of God, from father God, no good, no good in me-only good within me is the Simple knowledge I have of Christ and he was my sacrifice and changed my life saved my life and I am nothing but a vile filthy sinner saved by the mighty perfect grace of GOD and his redemptive plan to bring a people to himself my heart now finds ultimate rest and peace in GOD. For Christ came down to raise me up, he died so I could live now eternity I shall forever praise your name and worship your GLORY
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