God of the Gaps: A Response 

Ontological argument as explained by wlc means that if its possible for fairies to exist then they exist.

Throw it back at them. "Yours is naturalism of the gaps!"

If god doesn't need a first cause then the universe doesn't need a first cause.

Wlc referring to god as a man so often betrays his assumptions.

Hitchens believes in God now

There's a huge gap between the premise that everything that begins to exist needs a creator and that creator being the god bill was groomed to believe exists. Of course, bill doesn't see it that way because bill was groomed to not see it that way

I think the most important of the arguments that Dr. Craig lays out is that God can be personally known. Why do I think this is the most important? Because all the preceding arguments rest on it. The preceding arguments need the premise that God exists in order to be taken as support for God as the best explanation. Without this premise the notion that God exists is just one of many possible best explanations.

Is he seriously calling us a "fine tuned agent"? Because God did an awful work with us. And with everything, in fact. Is this the best an omnipotent omniscient God could achieve?

Wlc is a deist with his kalam argument but he then smuggles in his theism with it. Its a sleight of hand but fools most.

Dr. Craig put the hammer down!

They are very good arguments in favor of the existence of God. The only argument I still have to understand is the argument of the applicability of mathematics; It seems to me, for now, that is not a good argument for God.

Opening assumptions decide the parameters of conclusions. And opening assumptions come from personal experiences. That goes for both theists and atheists. Nothing is changed by trying to play football on a cricket field. Only the power of God can open people's minds, just as He did with Saul of Tarsus.

Do theists notice how evasive they are when defending the idea? For example Teleological Arguments for god center on apparent design (it's also called the Argument from Design sometimes). Well *is evidence of a god causing the design ever presented?* No. It's never presented. *Therefore the argument is god of the gaps.* We see something (apparent design), and despite lacking any evidenced explanation, the theist jumps to "god did it" as their explanation. So we don't even need to criticize whether it actually looks designed (the specific things the theist mentions, like the universe, often _don't_ appear designed!). No we don't have to hit that because unless they have evidence a god was involved, then it's argument from ignorance; it's god of the gaps. I'm calling the questioner evasive because he immediately tries to turn things back on the atheist. Sorry, that's not how it works: theists actually make these god of the gaps arguments, _and they're undeniably god of the gaps,_ so unless theists stop making the arguments (and maybe the questioner does; maybe Craig does) then theists are going to keep being accused of it. Really the solution is simple: slam down strong, logical evidence of a god. Funny how you never see that.

Hello. I am an atheist. I define atheism as suspending any acknowledgment as to the reality of any particular god until sufficient credible evidence is presented. My position is that *_I currently have no good reason to acknowledge the reality of any god._* And here is why I currently hold to such a position. Below are 11 facts I must consider when evaluating the claim made by certain theists that a particular god exists in reality. To be clear, these are not premises for any argument which _concludes_ there to be no gods. These are simply facts I must take into account when evaluating the verity of such a claim. If any of the following facts were to be contravened at a later time by evidence, experience, or sound argument, I would THEN have good reason to acknowledge such a reality. 1. I personally have never observed a god. 2. I have never encountered any person who has claimed to have observed a god. 3. I know of no accounts of persons claiming to have observed a god that were willing or able to demonstrate or verify their observation for authenticity, accuracy, or validity. 4. I have never been presented withany _valid_ logical argument, which also introduced demonstrably true premises that lead deductively to an inevitable conclusion that a god(s) exists in reality. 5. Of the many logical syllogisms I have examined arguing for the reality of a god(s), I have found all to contain a formal or informal logical fallacy or a premise that can not be demonstrated to be true. 6. I have never observed a phenomenon in which the existence of a god was a necessary antecedent for the known or probable explanation for the causation of that phenomenon. 7. Several proposed (and generally accepted) explanations for observable phenomena that were previously based on the agency of a god(s), have subsequently been replaced with rational, natural explanations, each substantiated with evidence that excluded the agency of a god(s). I have never encountered _vice versa._ 8. I have never knowingly experienced the presence of a god through intercession of angels, divine revelation, the miraculous act of divinity, or any occurrence of a supernatural event. 9. Every phenomenon that I have ever observed appears to have *_emerged_* from necessary and sufficient antecedents over time without exception. In other words, I have never observed a phenomenon (entity, process, object, event, process, substance, system, or being) that was created _ex nihilo_ - that is instantaneously came into existence by the solitary volition of a deity. 10. All claims of a supernatural or divine nature that I have been presented have either been refuted to my satisfaction or do not present as _falsifiable._ 11. I have never been presented with a functional definition of a god. ALL of these facts lead me to the only rational conclusion that concurs with the realities I have been presented - and that is the fact that there is *_no good reason_* for me to acknowledge the reality of any particular god. I have heard often that atheism is the denial of the Abrahamic god. But denial is the active rejection of a substantiated fact once credible evidence has been presented. Atheism is simply withholding such acknowledgment until sufficient credible evidence is introduced. *_It is natural, rational, and prudent to be skeptical of unsubstantiated claims, especially extraordinary ones._* I welcome any cordial response. Peace.

It seems like this channel is being attacked by devout, and faithful athiests. If you're one of those, I understand because I was one of those too until around 40yo. Just like Hitchens; no evidence could possibly convince me because I could easily explain it away with an assumption for which I couldn't prove. I'm on my death bed taking my last breaths and all of a sudden I'm looking at myself and the room? Dream, duh. I get taken off to some place and an entity that seems to be God is judging me? Chemical processes in the natural world, duh. It's an illusion. I'm essentially hallucinating. That was me too. Well guess what; the material world is barely understood along with consciousness.

The last instruction of JESUS YESHUA is that you must be witnesses to Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, Samaria and to the end of the 🌍 world. Dr.Craig explained a bunch of arguments for God's existence, but finally he said, all of these reasons we have for believing in God. So, JESUS made available evidence for God's existence but unfortunately theists & scholars like Dr.Craig waste their time without becoming a witness of JESUS & doing ineffective & unproductive arguments and these kinds of arguments and counter argument doesn't end & it's total waste, and these guys are trapped in the atheist arguments.

Do you have an example of something that began to exist? And what evidence do you have for the universe beginning to exist?

When the miracles necessary for our existence are taken for granted, of course, there's no God.

Atheism is all gaps. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!🇺🇲❣️♥️❤️

Says the master of God of the gaps

"Whatever begins to exit has a cause..." I don't know that you can identify the precise "beginning" of the universe since there may always be some state that proceeded it.

The bible teaches cration from primordial elemental chaos, not creatio ex nihilo.