God of War Ragnarok - Kratos Creates RAGNAROK - Surtr the Fire Giant Becomes Ragnarok 

He was the same actor who played Clarke’s dad in The 100. Super talented actor for the brief moment he was in the game and in the show.

He’s giving off MCU Ultron vibes.

He also plays the dude who gets his hand cut off by Denzel Washington in the Book Of Eli

i thought he would speak more old-styled. but then again a primordial probably just dont give a shit and just take it easy. so that way of speaking is fiiting

Man, y'all aint never see Stargate SG1.

I also love the look on Atreus’s face He looks like a teen at the doctors office when the doctor asks “are you sexually active?” And they look at their parent like “uhhhh” “Have you ever been in love?” “Uhhh, father how do I answer that?”

Solidifies Kratos' problem on whether he prepared Atreus to woo someone or not

I think he really gave Atreus something to really think about moving forward. Definitely feels like one of those life changing moments.

"It's pretty good"

Remember this line. Perhaps one of us can drop this on a younger someday.

More like a backhand brush!

That was crazy!

He's like shooing them away.

He merely used 1% of his true power

I honestly thought the pain of the transformation combined with the fact that he was changing into a completely different being was causing him to go crazy...

@@Netherwolf6100 That might be it, I simply thought that he was happy because he spent his entire existence knowing that his fate was to either join with the woman he loved and die as a result, or remain forever apart with only her heart to console him. If I could spare my wife from death, my own life would be gladly spent.

This, I love this.

I believe it was that he and sinmara could win together in a way yk?

@@johncarpenter3597 or maybe it was just the power surge that made him overjoyed

They kind of did. Ragnarok ended up being a massive inconvenience

@@robertflinch2447 The Aesir lucked out that they were fighting the Dad of Boi, not the Ghost of Sparta.

@@nowanimportant8887 Nah surtur or sumaria would've eventually bodied kratos.

I was under the impression that Kratos WAS Ragnarok. I mean “God Killer”…seemed a lotta sense at the time.

@@omega-manthe8346 Nah, Kratos ain't taking an L from either of them.

Surtr might be the only being Kratos can’t beat especially his ragnarok form because he’s a force of nature

@@caspercasper5413 Kratos has killed bigger, but it's within who the writer wants to win really. Ragnarok and Kratos are both powerhouses they have destroyed anything that comes their way. Not really up for debate.

@@BlueSlurpy bro surtr literally raised his hand and kratos flew the fuck back. And ragnarok is a cosmic force

@@caspercasper5413 Kratos has gone against time and destiny itself. I didn't say Surtr was weak I just said both of them are on equal terms of power. Kratos beat Thor and Odin in the same day and killed most of the important Norse gods while holding his power. Changed his own fate in Greece killing the women who were able to write off his existence. Kratos and Surtr are powerful beings but just because Kratos flew back doesn't nerf any of his other experiences. Kratos was blown aback by several foes and won. Even Freyr was able to hold Ragnarök back for a short while.

I always like that part of the scene, pretty much explains why Surtr has so much latent power within. He’s made of the same fire that forged the universe.

Also kinda lampshades why the Chaos Blades still work, even after Kratos lost all his other magic, and why they can burn in Helheim.

I think he knew his role in Ragnarok. He initially refused because he wanted to protect Sinmara. He didn't want to sacrifice HER. The blades allowed to sacrifice himself ONLY. That's why he changed his mind.

Surtr: You son of a bitch, I'm in!

"Have you ever been in love? It's pretty good."

😂😂😂😂 My brother that comment is 👌👌👌

The thing is, when we are talking about "Primordials" in the context of Greek mythology, they actually refers to the race of "primordial gods", the 2nd oldest beings in the whole Greek mythology, and the reason why the Blades of Chaos had primordial flames is because Ares forge the blades himself in Tartarus, one of the primordial god

@@ariqsyafwan4987 Actually, Protogenoi aka the primordials were the first generation, Titans were the 2nd

@@kwstas92 isn't Khaos the oldest?

@@ariqsyafwan4987 Chaos is treated as both a protogenoi and place from which everything came from. In GOW, according to ascension's intro, Chaos was one of the primordials whose war shaped the Greek pocket universe. Generally, it goes Primordials (along with chaos)-> Titans->Olympians in terms of generations.

that backslap so strong it could send someone to other realm. Sutr didn't even use his whole body for that backslap.

I know I’m suprised tha more people don’t talk about it, he wasn’t angry either, he just wanted them to leave and just pushed them to the door

the backslap of chaos

A small scale eruption.

"brave Nobel surter who knows he lives but to his doom all because he chooses to serve a grand cycle so much bigger than himself "

@@aawallace98 brave, generous surt.

It’s too bad that they didn’t technically need him. He didn’t really do much to help the battle along

@@michaelkimberling7307 for real. like sounds mean as hell but ragnarok caused much trouble than help. and did they need asgard destroyed?

@@zulhimi3335 Honestly the story in the end didnt make any sense. Aesir turned out to be good except for Odin (maybe Heimdal). Odins preparation for ragnarok was swept away in minutes without any meaningful help. Kratos did not really have to go through a transformation to his old form in order to protect his son. I mean this is the happy ending Kratos deserved but it is also very different from him. The previous game was less concerning in that sense for me because his motives and reactions felt natural. Here he became too much of a good guy (and also almost everyone). The only bad thing that happened is Brok dying which is meh. We didnt even have to sacrefice Surtrs love for our plans.

I feel like almost every character described in the last game turned out to be not what we expected

@D Thors description was pretty accurate

@@billypresley2963 Well yes but clearly he was more than just a irredeemable murderer

@@LokiTheClever true. Thor's a family man. But he's still an asshole

​@@LokiTheCleverI think that's what makes the game so unpredictable and interesting. I love how it tries to be so "ungeneric" and different rather than following the same old formula. Every character interpretation in this game is oddly extremely fitting and it somehow suits them

The tools that brought him only pain become the very things that protects all that he loves

Love can change a person.

When does he pull iron out of the ground?

@@phobos1826 Dunno, but there's swords all over the ground around him, so it's likely true

@@NeoGamemaster I mean he could probably just find iron, bit of an assumption that he pulls it out of the ground. What if musphelheim just has a ton of iron on the surface?

Forging iron on a hill of swords, intoxicated with victory....

I think rather than to pass time, he specifically tries to forge a sword that could contain primordial fire by himself, to turn into Ragnarok alone without Sinmara since he does actually want to prevent Odin from winning

Except he got no stick

Well fire of creation but yeah essentially the same difference, little wonder they astound even Brok.

“…from the bowels of Hades.” Has a more haunting feeling because of that same primordial fire. Bruh

Atreus became LowTierGod for a sec

Ltg atreus

I'd give Surtr the edge here. Though Zeus is a god, Surtr is a PRIMORDIAL. Far above Zeus in power, especially considering that Greece had its own Primordials, which are mostly more ancient than even the Titans.

I'm pretty sure zeus would fear him, he feared the primordials, and surtr is on their level

Depends where they battle, surtr is weaker when he isn’t in muspelheim, the only reason he is able to hurtle Kratos & Atreus is bc he is in muspelheim if he was anywhere else beside there he won’t be able to do things he can do when he is in his realm, he is at his strongest when he’s in muspelheim

Many characters in Norse Mythology became rather chill and laidback in this game, almost like people you could see yourself meeting in your life like Thor and Odin. If you take away their divine powers.

I think he probably could be intimidating if he wanted to he just has no reason too nor does he have the energy it seems I think the writers wanted to portray a man that has just given up and I think they did a pretty good job

@@anthonysmith7504 Only God knows how long Surtur and the other gods has been at this job. They may be eternal but their patience isn't.

Especially a gentle man with nothing to lose.

Surtr didn't even ask her, but I guess that's what he meant by the lesser pain. He made the selfish decision to spare her at his own expense, because he would rather die than even think about harming Sinmara. Ironically, he may have harmed her worse by sparing her.

The primordial power he has is not exactly his own, it belongs to his Blades. As for why he survived, he's mfking Kratos. Death won't be able to earn him that easily.

@@nowanimportant8887 Even without the blades, when he enters Spartan Rage, flames erupt everywhere.

@@Laurentus It's just showing how enraged he is. He doesn't even do fire-based attacks that don't involve his blades. Besides, if he really had fire as his own power, he'd have no reason not to use it.

​@@nowanimportant8887 ...his punches and stomp attacks in spartan rage literally cause fire...

@@sebastianb.3978 No, they don't.

I dont know why, but i laughed so hard imagining that

Chaos. It is a primordial force in Greek mythology. Probably the oldest one of all.

@@nowanimportant8887 thus “ the blades of chaos “

Literally in the name

@@nowanimportant8887 Chaos is like Ymir but in Greek mythology, right?

primodial fire from deepest hell than pit of tartarus...

Definitely on par with Robert Forster’s acting.

Feels like he's based off of guys like sam elliot and jeff bridges, he even has a beard but it's made of rock or whatever.

In Greek mythology “Chaos” is the ultimate primordial being and by far the most powerful in all of Greek mythology, surtr seeing those blades knew that the blades surpassed the requirements of combining to make ragnarok. the blades of chaos are as powerful as a primordial being

Originally, for Ragnarok to come to be, both Surtr and Sinmara must die. From the conversation, I think we can infer that to create Ragnarok, we must combine primordial fire and primordial ice. Since Surtr says that Sinmara's heart is primordial ice, we can infer that primordial fire would have been Surtr's heart. But if we used Surtr's heart, Sinmara would die (since they swapped hearts and all). So while Surtr agrees that Odin (and Asgard by extension) is due for a whopping, he won't help if it means Sinmara dying. (Probably wouldn't have agreed even if she says yes.) As Surtr pointed out, the request is equivalent to anyone asking Kratos to sacrifice Atreus. No way in the nine realms for any cause is that an acceptable option. The Blades of Chaos, as it turns out, can act as the primordial fire component of Ragnarok in place of Surtr's heart. Once charged up and combined with Sinmara's heart (which Surtr has), Ragnarok can be created. This means Sinmara won't need to die for Ragnarok to be created, only Surtr. And that's why Surtr changed his mind. So long as Sinmara is "left out of this", he is willing to give his life for the cause of creating Ragnarok.

@@KittyMaverick man Surtr willing to sacrifice himself to let Sinmara live, i got to research more about them

@@KittyMaverick Wow! Okay, I totally get it now! Great post and explanation. Thank you.

Brave noble Surt indeed.

Bro was enjoying this shit 💀

@@mrrobot3368 hell yeah

He probably sensed that it was actually gonna work, that his wife wouldn't have to die after all.

They needed someone to take on the Asgard forces to leave Odin open for ambush

His purpose was to destroy Asgard not specifically kill Odin although destroying Asgard would in turn kill Odin as it was implied in the prophecy

Even in the original myth Odin was killed by Fenrir, Surtur purpose is to destroy Asgard, not Odin, and bringing the biggest guy to the table also forces Asgard forces to fight him instead of them 3 and their "army"

He only didn't want to help because the transformation into Ragnarok (according to the prophecy) would mean the death of the one he loved. Once he found an alternative method that didn't require Sinmara's death, he took it without hesitation

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