When I started learning about the "civil war", I said to myself, I thought I wouldn't see a day when the president of the United States would raise an army against his own country. When the actor of Robert Edward Lee said something similar in the movie, I was shocked how close to the truth I was.
"General, my home is right there across the Potomac; why you can see Arlington House from your front door. My family is spread all across this part of Virginia. If you invade the South, your enemy territory will be there, right across that river."
"Yankees...everywhere! Where ya'll been? Cain't find my own house. What ya'll done with my house? Gone! Gone! Well where is it? Can ya' tell me that? Well can ya'? Can ya'?"
It was a long time b/tween Gettysburg & G's & Gen's as I recall. Still, I am beginning to despair of there ever being a film version of Last Full Measure. The actors are getting older & it wouldn't be the same w/ different actors all playing the main characters. I especially love Duvall as Lee. I have never read any of the novels these movies are based on. I have no idea if Lincoln is featured prominently in the last novel. I do so wish he featured in the last movie.
difícil de eu deixar de gostar de um filme principalmente neste gênero!!! e outros. todos os filmes tem algo que satisfaz o nosso ego/curiosidade/conhecimento, etc!!!!
@DarthMercanto: I haven't read the book, so I can only speculate & rely on the authors statements as to his purpose. He was attempting to be faithful to original persons in their situation & show how they saw themselves & their predicament. Jackson's genius as a battle field commander is the central fact of these early battles. This is why the focus on him. If the last book had been dramatised, not likely now, a different picture would emerge.
@VictorLepanto It's a shame James Gammon died. He played Ulysses S. Grant to Sam Waterston's Abraham Lincoln in Gore Vidal's Lincoln. Which, if you put together that, with G&G, Glory, Gettysburg and Gone With the Wind. and maybe more obscure stuff like The Colt, you have a pretty amazing Civil War biopic in film.
@VictorLepanto In understand their reasoning, you mentioned that you hadn't read the book so I thought I would flesh out the differences for you. As for a miniseries, I could see that being an advantage for LFM; it would allow for more time to develop more characters. That being said it would nice to have a trilogy of films that are unilataerally the same format (ie movies). Either way, I would jsut love to see part 3 made.
@VictorLepanto LOL!! Yeah that wouldbe the kind of thing HBO would do. Although I think a series like that is already being produced. Its called Road to Appomattox and it is in the same vien as Band of Brothers.
@VictorLepanto The original book had less of Jackson and more Hancock, Lee, and Chamberlain. It was less of a bio. Jackson was still a central character, just not the central character. Based on Jackson being the main character of G&G, I figure that LFM would have been largely based around Grant, who was the central figure. As for LFM, these next 4 years are the Sesquicentennial and Turner is finally releasing the full G&G. Maybe he'll reconsider his decision if sales are strong.
@DarthMercanto It is kinda, but not really. The early war leading to Gettysburg was a comedy of errors on the part of the Union Army due to gross incompetence. So there's very little "honor" or "valor" to show in a positive light. And at several points, there are bits condemning the South for not abandoning slavery, yet fighting for "freedom". The biggest beef most people have here is showing the Confederates as being thoughtful human beings. Especially Jackson, who's tragedy changed the war.
@VictorLepanto Plans to finance the Last Full Measure were dropped by Ted Turner after G&G failed in the box office. However the extended G&G is being released this May and if the sales go well, perhaps Turbner will reconsider (this version also features Lincoln which is a plus). If they do make LFM I hope it is a bit more balanced then G&G which got a bit to pro-Confederate in my opinion. Btw, you should definetly take a look at the books if you have the time, they are quite good.
@MrPaladino: Well, they certainly were thoughtful human beings, caught in a political-social-economic predicament of that moment. People see themselves as virtuous, see things they accept as normal in a positive. The are often blind to those things which would strike someone of a different time and place as appalling. The beneficiaries of slavery had arrenged things to excluse ANY negative comment on it in the South. Post master were forbidden to even deliver abolitionist paper.
@DarthMercanto: In even a movie as loooooong as G & G, one can not develope a multifude of characters as one would in a novel. It was probably necessary to focus on Jackson, as his fanaticism did make the critical difference early on. The CSA cause does decline after his death. This justifies the focus of the movie. I so hope for the last installment, b/f Duvall dies. Maybe a John Adams style miniseries on HBO. That would be so way cool.
Well the political situation without slavery this time around though is upon us in 2012 its big and tyranny goverment vs people like myself who want a return to small limited constittuional government the same thing the South did in 1861 against the North
@DarthMercanto: After giving away all his money to the U.N. (big moron), Ted doesn't have much left for these movies. Given the excellent job HBO did w/ the Adams series, I bet they'd be willing to do a treatment of LFM. W/ HBO, I'd be afraid they'd want to throw a gay love scene b/t Lincoln &, I d'know, Lee maybe.
@MrPaladino Well it does sugar coat slavery a bit at times I think, and I personally wish we could have seen Union boys marching to war as well as Confederates. That being said, I think the biases of this film have been exaggerated. As for the errors, I agree, in the Eastern Theatre it was disaster after disaster (which is the only theatre the films concern themselves with). As for valour; both the Federalists and Confederates were valiant in victory and defeat I think.
America also named an Aircraft Carrier the U.S.S. America, and the blew it up to Davey Jones looker (the bottom of the ocean) for some odd reason, and too me, it looks like they don't give a crap about this Country.
If people would actually read something from the times surrounding the War or skim the Declaration of Causes of Seceding States, it is stated that Slavery IS AN issue, "For ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African Slavery" - GA.Offl Rec,Ser IV,vol 1,pg81-85. Slavery was NOT NOT!!! the only issue, just causes: triffs, pork projects, north centric funding&TAXES&Corrupt Officals! Like now
