Goku Black's "SECRET" 50/50 (And Why it Works) 

I forgot to mention that this mixup is actually nothing new. Some very helpful gentlemen on twitter have been spreading the good word of the goku black 50/50 for a while now, but I figured I could do my part to share the tech and help anyone who is confused about how it works. Thanks for watching!

Finally some decent mix

Goku Black twitter guy here. Some additional notes for everyone else: ■ He can SJ Install for his Instant Transmission in one of 3 places: - Easy: from neutral, you can Tiger Knee the IT directly 2147H (3f window) - Medium: staggering, or the landing lag of j.S, gives a buffer for the SJ (1~2f button timing + 4f SJ buffer) - Hard: directly do 2, 8+L at the start of a blockstring (1 frame link, hitbox makes it look easy) ■ If they respect you, Goku Black can threaten all 4 corners with SJ Install float mixup ■ Black doesn't need SJ Install to mix, but it upgrades his existing mix. Options that don't need SJ Install: - Base Goku A specifically, it works out that IT + Assist -> land -> 5L hits the same frame as a delayed j.44H - Most other assists can do j.66S 214H to crossup mix, or a delayed j.H for same side - Some assists (Beams, TGohan A, Zamasu B, Janemba B, Blueku B) get unique pushback setups - High blockstun (Bardock B, Jiren A) give Black a high/low without EX Transmission. Empty 2M vs. late j.66M - And of course, the universal (corner only) SD + Assist mix.

Goku Black? MIXXXX? I have never heard those two words together in my life.

Finally some unique Goku Black mixups can't wait to se- "...Cell can do this too" Well shit.

Well, what do you think of this mix? Is it not beautifull?

4:37 "I can float ! I ... CAN ... FIGHT"

"Mary Poppinsing" new grammar achievement unlocked

I feel like Goku Black is making a comeback and that makes me happy. People finally are recognizing his full potential. I am scared about something however. He will inevitably get buffs, which might result in changing what people have been working so hard to discover about this character.

Rath I would just like to thank you for being such a positive and informative channel and streamer. Your content is one of the main reasons I keep trying to get better at fighterz! Without your guide detailing all the stuff I can do in Training mode my defense wouldn’t have gotten better in the slightest. If it hadn’t been for your character guides I wouldn’t have gotten into Teen Gohan. Keep doing what you’re doing man you are a shining beacon in this community!

This is wayyyy easier than I thought it would be, haven’t seen this and I’ve followed the game pretty thoroughly through its lifespan, super cool and interesting!

Known this mix since forever, didn't expect to learn anything new, and just came for your soothing voice. Didn't know that superjump installs were just an extension of kara cancels. TIL :)

Its been so long, glad to finally watch some videos by you!

I missed your videos, thank you so much for these deep dives into the DBFZ Tech. You really help open my eyes when approaching new characters and picking them up. Thanks for all you do🙏

MY MAN!!!

The way you break things down make it easy to understand what you’re talking about. Keep it up

You're the only DBFZ content creator worth listening to honestly. lol. I love your stuff man. Straight to the point.

Honestly love your content and just the chill vibes that eminate from your vids

I think this explains an issue I sometimes experienced with Jiren combos where I'd cancel a jM into jS and then superdash to follow up but only get superdash instead (which leads to the combo dropping) because the inputs would show a lonely S and then HS but the S canceled into superdash instead. Thanks for video Rath. Hope you're doing well despite the busy period. Good luck with school and stay healthy!

Great video, man. Very well explained and entertaining to watch. 👌

Very good explanation of kara cancel. Good refresher.

Rath you need more subs bro. Love your DBFZ content.

Omg this is amazing, my guy just gave hope to goku black! Great work!

Float mix is difficult, but it's something for these desperate blacku players. Probably a bit more practical with hitbox.

really cool video man, I learned a lot of stuff that i thought i understood but really didnt

Just got back to dbfz and your videos are as good as ever, thank you!

great video Rath

That is so unique i knew the game has moments where things bleed into other moves retaining effetcs and such but this down super up attack tech makes me wana try it on everything to see what is affected im a simple dude when it comes to fighting games so im kinda psyched nice

Love your videos, keep the good work up man.

Looking good dude

Glad to see an upload man, was gettin worried for ya

omg i thought you were doing vanish this whole time but it was his special teleport attack omg im dumb thanks. now it works, now is goku black time babyyyyyyyyyyyy

I'm still waiting for Season 3 crash course on 17, these guides, all of them, are so much more informational than simple combo guides and there isn't too much out for 17 as it stands

I just hope you make more videos. Love them. I am sure you have considered this, but I'd love some easy to make and edit content from you. Be it live matches or something else.

Rath with the green screen!

Rath out here looking like jiyuna's long lost twin

Thanks for the tipps

Yay more Rath

2 things I didn't know 1. Kara Cancel from superjump 2. SuperJump property retains on the ground

Honestly I'd like to see them buff Goku Black this exact way, basically making it so that after every Instant Transmission you have the super jump property. Would be awesome and would make him very unique mobillity wise across the cast.

I play the game SINCE it came out and I didn't know why my BEERUS good left right mix up mostly not working on my friends & I was asking him is it auto block or what?!? Cuz I always train to make it true block string, and I didn't know that it will cancel my left right mix ups! & Thank you so much for this helpful tech u explained to us. ♥✨🌹💖

Kara Cancel is basically cancelling the first frames of animation of a move with a special, supers or grabs. Usually it's used in forwards advancing moves of the character to extend the range of their Specials, taking advantage of the first frames of momentum in the animation. What is happening here is more of a Input retention, kinda like Negative Edge, an example been Urine in SF3rd, which allows you to dash while still retaining the charge of a charged move. But in this case the properties of the Super Jump are been retained during the attacks and then released ones Goku Black is airborne. Dunno if Negative Edge is the best description, but Kara Cancel isn't the right term for this tech imo. But if I'm proven wrong then that's ok, is good to learn more.

Some Ideas for Black buffs: Make his instant transmission faster. Even 2-3 frames faster would really help him. Here's an interesting one, do what was given to Blue Vegeta and make his 5S and 6S able to convert in to other specials and supers. That could reaaallly buff his neutral. OR Just make his 5S and 6S like Trunks' 5S and make it beat normal Ki blasts. Honestly, just giving him that Blue Vegeta buff would already make him much better, but I think the 5S and 6S change is unanimously a must-have.

to the lab!!! thanks for the explanation.

Somebody get this man some buffs. It's not even that he's bad, it's just that every other character has more options offensively. He needs some love on solo combo extensions and some of his specials need to be changed to give him some free mix options to stay relevant. Give him an angled Kamehameha and frame data to jail into IT for a free Hi-Lo mix and he'd be a lot more viable. At least an angle ki blast or something to contest airspace from the ground. Making standing ki blast or Kamehameha jail into IT would do him a ton of good tho.

Very helpful video... keep it up!

you and Globku are the only RELIABLE fighterZ guys

Mix for characters who don't really have it on their own. Nice. Tough tech to learn as the Inputs are tight but with practice it could make some characters better who struggle on get up

now THIS is something someone could show me when arguing Goku black is good, no one freaking does it, still don't think he's top tier at all but already he is more attractive to play

Hmmmmm, could this work with goku blue teleport as well after the opponent blocks, that split second landing for same side or cross up?

Finally I wanted to play goku balck for so long but couldn't bc he had no 50/50 thx you for making this video

Ayo S/O to the Goku Black discord for putting out helpful tech like this!

This was great! I learned a lot. I know about TK, but I had no idea you could SJ install off of a light, and retain the SJ properties throughout the blockstring. Is this specific to Goku Black, or is this a universal technique? (I'd hit the lab to test myself, but I've been super busy and haven't had the time to play, lol)

Rath upload, today is a good day

Very cool I wonder what other characters can do using this tech

Oh thanks for the info rath :))

I got my fundamentals tshirt last week it's pretty sweet!!

His ex teleport should give him the float property automatically. This is very cool but other characters have mix up without have to do all of the steps. Good find tho!

This is actually an insane tech. You monster! Take this down before i start seeing goku blacks!

Finally, a CRUMB of mix

Great video

hello RathFGC i was wondering if you can do a video on gotenks since he's got REALLY good buffs

I LOOOOVE NEW TECH

I’m having trouble trying to do the mix on black as I think I might be doing it to soon or too late

will you make a video about superjump installs?

Feel that you have the voice for an NPR podcast.

I figured it was a super jump install, but I was expecting the Tiger Knee method. I learned about Kara (probably wrong spelling) cancels.

can't you just do a Tk input for the ex teleport instead of doing it before the blockstring? just wondering

Does super jump kara cancel apply to command throws or parries?

Ok, I'm on my 50th try and I've got the the tigerknee L down but when goku black starts to float he just pushes the opponent (ssgssGoku) how do I make him go farther? Edit: I've gotten it to work with super broly A assist but still working on hitting a button on the side switch

10:14 question: wouldn't a tiger knee if black did a dive kick as close to the ground as possible?

I left Black after hearing he was "bad" but videos likes this makes me wanna play him again, I love his teleport mixups. Thaanks

Does anyone know the music I checked what he said its a different song :(

I havent played Rosé since before Bardock and Broly, its good to see that even though he's pretty bad that he still has something for himself besides just his beam. Hopefully he'll get something soon and ArcSys won't remove this

Can Goku Blue do anything along these lines with his ex dive kick on block?

Ah, i see So then i suppose it may be tim- HA ye i heard abt the float mix with him, its kinda hard to pull off sometimes but its do-able Was gonna give it a whirl but my interest is peeked with other characters so "hes on hold"

Very Cool

I would love to see a video on corner stealing. Like if you call UI A assist after broly j2H

Kara cancel Drs are really good for mixups. Gt gokus 5s kara is op

Maestro

So this is essentially his asssit based mix up that we already knew about that if he has an assist that can cover his ass with enough blockstun that be can actually cross up and that he can use ex teleport to do so. What exactly prevents someone going and killing the first 2 leaving black alone and then as black tries to ex teleport proceeds to get 2hed out of it here?

damn we had to discover a new mechanic 3 years into the game to give goku black a mix

I understand how to do this but it's super hard on d pad I always jump then light is the timing strict

Can you explain why 16 can float off his grounded 214L/M?

Give black a 6 frame 2LL like blueku, command grab w damage buff to 1200 and different animation to combo after, make his dive kick safe like cooler, god slicer less recovery, and oki after lvl 3 w instant transmission and he’s top tier

Can I raw lv3 when he instant transmission

Rath you doing something new with your hair? Looks clean, bro. :)

Guilty Gear even teach us something like this. Chipp Zanuff can jump install in order to keep is double jump after his teleport. Is something quite tricky and demands muscle memory implantation.

Wow! I love de idea of the video! I understend from the video that every charscter can use the benefit of using Sj at the beginning of a pressure. right? Can i use it in the second hit of the Gogeta's rekkas for example? Or with the 236L of Vegeta base? Or is for more especific situations? What do you think is the better form to start practice this? Did you do Sj first everythime you do a mixup? Sorry for so many questions but I really like the content. You look tired man. I hope that you could find betters days. More peaceful and easyers. Take time for you! We can wait. Like allways great content!

Could Goku Blue do something similar to this using his j.214H or 236/214S? I know that he is the last character that is in need of more mix, but I'm curious.

Kidney gonna be hype

Can i do the garcanceld with an L if i play in a ps4 controller joystick?

Really interesting, i tried with blueku ex dive but I did not succeed in floating cause you must 2H before. Do you think it s possible ?

work with other assist?

Wait can't it be 2H if it's an overhead or is thr gap too small ?

This mix....Will make me stronger

I remember back in Season 1 when Piccolo and Vegito could kara cancel their lvl 1 into raw tags by cancelling 6s>lvl 1 those were the days

Could this work with bluku

What about gogeta tk beam hold up, you might need a long blockstun assist but you might be able to float same side

Would this mechanic work with vegito air grab as well?