Huh did you even saw the fight between TUI Goku and Gas. TUI Goku broke both of Gas horns and defeated him. Gas has to use his *aged* form just to win against Goku. Vegeta literally got folded by Gas he was fainted when the fight was going on TUI Goku> Gas(base)> Granola FP> UE Vegeta TUI Goku mid diff UE Vegeta
@@notnameless. Bruh UI omen and TUI are different. UI Omen is Goku trying to imitate MUI but has imperfections in it while TUI is UI Omen + Saiyan amps(rage/anger) Saiyan gets all their power from anger so if he will combine the power of UI and his emotion that will give him a huge power boost. Literally this arc was all about Goku finding his own version of Ultra Instinct. And as I have mentioned Goku defeated Gas(base) in this form while Vegeta got washed away
@LightixN44N ya but it doesn t a main form because vegeta can t transform to it like ssb but he transform into it cus beerus attack bulma and he can t transform into it lots if time means not main form
for those who remember whis said that there is mutiples levels of ui, and that grand priest has higher level, so i think that tui is not even the final form, because when goku got ui, whis said that he was at the bottom of ui powers
The fact is that the TUI transformation is not even close to the most powerful that Goku has, it is the one in which he can best develop his powers because his heart is not calm, however this does not mean that it is the most powerful transformation, the More powerful is the transformation of silver hair with a completely calm heart.
In my opinion, Mui is superior to Tui and Goku only used Tui to solarize Gas because it is easier and takes longer to use, but I think that if Goku mastered Mui he would be even stronger.
@@GodJulian11 nah bro let me tell u the truth Strength - hakaisin ue Vegeta Speed - tui goku Durability - hakaisin ue Vegeta Iq / b iq - hakainsin ue Vegeta Reflex/abilities - tui goku So, the winner is Vegeta but if Goku uses gaint tui then Goku will easily win
Tui isn't even a strength boost, it's mainly made for speed, dodging and counter attacking, vegeta should get strength because the more damage Ultra ego takes, the stronger he gets.
Manga goku: 10 trillion Manga vegeta: 9.78 trillion Manga ssj goku: 500 trillion Manga ssj vegeta 450 trillion Manga goku ssj2: 1 quintillion Manga vegeta ssj2: 960 quadrillion Manga goku ssj3: 4.96 quintillion Manga goku ssjg: 229 quintillion Manga vegeta ssjg: 218 quintillion Manga goku ssjb: 1.5 sextrillion Manga vegeta ssjb: 1 sextrillion Manga goku ssjbfp: 5.6 sextrillion Manga vegeta ssjbe: 69 sextrillion Manga goku UIO:50 sextrillion Manga vegeta ssjbe FP: 98 sextrillion Manga goku UIO 2nd: 100 sextrillion Manga vegeta ssjb: 2.9 sextrillion Manga vegeta ssjbe: 150 sextrillion Manga goku MUI: 1.5 septrillion Manga vegeta ue: 1.6 sextrillion Manga goku TUI: 1.9 sextrillion
In reality, with ultra ego, the more destruction is thought of, the more powerful the user becomes (and this can be seemingly unlimited). What happens with Vegeta is that he uses the blows or the damage he receives as "fuel" to think more about destroying and thus becoming more powerful, but hey, it still doesn't mean that he can become more powerful from one moment to the next.
Great edit but there’s a lot of mistakes. If we are taking about current goku and vegeta then base vegeta > goku. Which most likely would lead to vegeta > in all other ssj forms especially ssj2. Goku gets ssj3 tho. For TUI you’re correct goku wins but vegeta gets strength.
TUI Goku tanked Gas' punch into his face 😂😂 Vegeta was lying on the ground so defeated, even he and PUI Goku couldn't even defeat Gas. TUI Goku is slightly stronger than Gas ALONE, the massive power gap between TUI Goku and PUI Goku + UE Vegeta is high. Also TUI ≠ UI Omen In TUI, you mix UI Omen with Saiyan Pride/Amps, in the form, you can use your anger/emotions to further get exponentially stronger. Lost the glowing aura/glowing hair tho. Only the silver eyes remain actually.
@@neoxwxthere is a massive difference between power and strength Power is decided on like beam struggles Strength is decided on who is the better fighter
Bro ssj3 is so disrespectful bc vegeta is mad cause he doesn’t have that,instead of having ssj3 he has the majin ssj2 which is significantly has great strength into that.
so whis isnt get strength against beerus becouse he use UE mmm interesting ofc not TUI get strength and its not even close see gas vs TUI goku it dosent matter fxxk hax and abilites and techniques UE vegeta can get speed and UI can get strength no difrence even UI better than UE in genral
@mohamedexedell7973 that's not a good example, whis is an angel, goku isn't, not only that the more vegeta gets damaged the stronger he gets bud, goku takes speed, because goku has a limit on strength, as long as vegeta gets damaged and is still awake he doesn't have a limit
@@fight1316 No, Vegeta have better strenght Goku meat rider, Vegeta was so damaged that he became so powerful, gas was so scared of his punch which would one shot him, and Tui Goku had strenght enough strenght to damage him but still not enough to take him to the point he would be scared of his punch.
@@fight1316 it is, and you are, Ue is form that mainly focus on strenght and durability and you are just saying that UI which focus on dodging, speed and defense gap is literally stronger than Powerhouse form.
Saiyan saga: vegeta Goku podia acceder al kaiokenx4 como limite y su poder rondaba las 32 mil a 37,240 mil unidades mientras que vegeta tenía la forma ozaru que le daba un poder cencano a 180 mil y con su galic ho llegaba a 240 mil y en dbz budokai era capaz de acceder al ssj (aunque no sea canon) llegando a unas 900 mil unidades. Namek - freezer saga: Goku Goku no solo superaba a vegeta en base sino que tambien podia acceder al ssj llegando a los 150 millones mientras que vegeta estaba por encima de piccolo que superaba el millon 60 mil de freezer pero todavia era inferior a la tercera forma de freezer que llegaba a los 2,120,000 pero en una mision alterna de DB xenoverse 2 vegeta obtiene el ssj pero se encuentra todavia por debajo de goku Android - cell saga: Goku Vegeta llego a alcanzar el ssj sin desgaste al final de esta saga pero todavia estaba por debajo de goku aunque duplicara su poder con el ssj de segundo grado, mientras que goku en una historia alterna de un videojuego fue capaz de humillar a cell perfecto y derrotarlo ademas dentro del canon tambien estaba por encima de vegeta. Buu saga: Goku Poniendo a vegeta al final de esta saga sumandole la marca majin y estando muerto sigue estando por debajo de goku ssj3 estando tambien muerto DBGT: Goku Se que se divide en sagas pero directamente vamos con el resultado final, goku 100 años después esta por encima de omega quien era 10 veces superior a un ssj4, aparte esta version de goku puede sumarle el poder del kaiokenx100 porque este goku vivio los acontecimientos de las peliculas y de los rellenos y en la pelicula de slug goku utiliza el kaiokenx100 y en el relleno del mas alla este utiliza el superkaioken y no es ilogico pensar que pudo llegar a este nivel y sumarle al ssj4 el superkaiokenx100. Battle of the gods: Equal Ya sea por la información de la pelicula, anime y manga más la información de dbz kakarot, vegeta con el ssj2 supero a goku ssj3 por 1.25 veces en esa saga y en el antes mencionado juego los 2 saiyans de manera distinta obtienen el ssg y están en igualdad de condiciones pero al ser la transformación un estado base ascendido goku puede sumarle el kaioken a la forma aunque esto no se haya visto. Fukatsu no F: Equal Los 2 están igualados pero en un combate vegeta tiene posibilidades de ganar si goku se confía o sino viceversa. Universe 6 saga: Goku Ya sea anime o manga goku puede superar a vegeta con el kaiokenx10 en el ssb. Black goku saga: Goku Vegeta perfeccionó el ssb al igual que goku y descubrió el cambio de god a blue pero goku puede usar el haya en dicha forma y puede sumarle al blue el kaiokenx10. T.O.P saga: Goku Comparando las formas más poderosas de esta saga son las vistas en el anime el UI completo de goku contra el blue evolution de vegeta, obvio la diferencia es abisma. Broly saga: Vegeta No se si esto es una saga pero al goku no poder usar el UI, vegeta con el evolution supera el blue kaiokenx20 de goku. Moro arc: Goku Sucede lo mismo que en el torneo del poder que explique más arriba. Granola arc: Goku Cuando goku despierta el TUI estuvo por encima de vegeta porque este estaba herido pero en un combate con los 2 en condiciones podría ser que vegeta supere a goku pero este último como en puntos anteriores podría limitar el incremento de poder de vegeta con distintos ataques y además se teoriza que puede sumarle el kaioken a su TUI. Superhero saga: Vegeta Si tomamos lo dicho arriba gana goku en esta saga pero si es solo en base como se vio en la película y en el manga, vegeta puede ganar por muy poco. DB heroes: Goku Xeno (arcade) - Goku CC ssb universal (anime) En este punto ni siquiera hace falta explicarlo, la diferencia con vegeta en estas 2 versiones es abismal. Future of trunks: Goku Vegeta igualo el poder del ssj de goku en namek y posteriormente al morir fue enviado al infierno haciendo que le sea imposible entrenar sin un cuerpo, mientras que goku fuera del canon siguió entrenando en el planeta de kaiosama y rondando quizás el poder de su contraparte en la saga de buu. Esto se que en el videojuego de dbz budokai another road. Kid verions: vegeta Goku como limite tenía 260 unidades en el dragonball clásico y vegeta unas 16,000 más o menos esto puede llegar a ser menos, pero en esta etapa del db clásico también entra la version de goku que se enfrento a piccolo en el torneo N°23 rondando el poder que tuvo al principio de la saga saiyan unos 416, pero kid goku también se puede convertir en ozaru llegando a 2,600 pero es insuficiente contra el poder de kid vegeta ya mencionado.
He also mentioned that finally at last I beat kakarot they were training in the chamber before this means goku was straight up whooping his butt in there
Respectfully I would give Potential to Ultra ego cuz if it’s like UI Sign then it’s gonna get a lot stronger seeing that it was his first time using it against granolah
PRE PLANET VEGETA DESTRUCTION:VEGETA PLANET VEGETA SAGA:VEGETA RADITZ SAGA:VEGETA SAIYAN SAGA:GOKU NAMEK SAGA:VEGETA GINYU FORCE SAGA:GOKU FRIEZA SAGA:GOKU ANDROID SAGA:VEGETA IMPERFECT CELL SAGA:VEGETA SEMI- PERFECT CELL SAGA:GOKU CELL GAMES SAGA:GOKU MAJIN BUU SAGA:VEGETA SUPER BUU:BOTH KID BUU:GOKU BEERUS SAGA:GOKU FRIEZA RESSRUCTEDSAGA:GOKU UNIVERSE 6 SAGA:GOKU VEGETA FAKE SAGA:GOKU GOKU BLACK SAGA:GOKU TOURNAMENT OF POWER (TOP SAGA):GOKU BROLY (LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN SAGA):BOTH MORO SAGA:GOKU Granola- H SAGA:GOKU GAS SAGA:GOKU VEGETA FINAL BATTLE SAGA: GOKU THIS MUCH
My opinion Base vegeta>>>base goku Ssj vegeta>>>ssj goku Ssj2 vegeta>>>ssj2 goku Ssj3>>>ssj2 vegeta Ssj god goku>>ssj god Vegeta Ssb vegta>>>ssb goku Ssbe vegeta>>>Goku Kaioken x20 Ssbe vegeta>>>ui omen (top) Mui goku >>>ssjbe vegeta Ue vegeta>>> Mui goku Ue vegeta>>>pui goku Tui goku>>> ue vegeta Pui Goku susanoo >>>>Ue vegeta Results if they fought with their highest forms cannon Goku would win mid Diff