I've been pulverizing mine by hand with the reverse end of the concrete drill bit and the end you would insert into the drill shaft.. And a metal stainless steel thermos coffee cup All manual labor
Thank you so much for posting this informative video! For quite a while now, I've theorized several points, which you have validated for me in this spectacular video. A million thanks.
Mr. Jardine just started to research the possibilities of silver and gold in the areas in which I have previously hunted or fished mostly in Central PA. I have much to learn about the smelting process but I am fairly sure I have good instinct as far as reading terrain and water and locating areas that have high probability of high content silver and some gold. I have really started to research 1st vegetation such as vines,mushrooms,poke berries etc . Also have determined that some mountain laurel does not burn meaning the leaves and rather turns to flake silverand the yellow turned leaves turn to brilliant yellow and then to brown thinking there is possible gold content in them. PA has the most rivers and streams in all the 50 and many limestone and quartzed based streams that are very remote and decilate in some areas hard to access and full of mineral deposit and sulfides,sulfates,and telluride. Am amateur at this process but have become passionate about the process of locating and making an educated guess on deposit of silver and gold honestly I believe I have talent for this and no these woods and streams around here probably better than the head of the fish and game commission plus there is no Bush that I can not get through including 12ft tall buck laurel. Need to become more educated on the details of smelting and specific rock formation the mineral differences in color and some old school tricks for say that I am fairly sure u posses. If u could send me the simplest form or instruction or good literature to acclimate my ability to further improve my ability to become a better prospector and smelter. I would gladly take u with me on some adventures in good faith that u would not reveal location and would teach me some of ur tricks and wisdom on the process. I promise u will not be disappointed or broke when u leave I honestly have 7 sites within an 1hour lol so of my house the posses this ♥ minerals, plus u can eat fresh trout and possibly a grouse or whitetail for dinner with me. I need a old school teacher that cuts the bull and gets to the point and gets her done. Please take the time to enhance my ability to better myself in this profession I would greatly appreciate it 🙏 Jeremy is my name 5703940380.
Awesome video Ned, Love your set up and process. I need to pay more attention to the sulfides i think. That button was sweet well done. Cheers for sharing Alicia & Steve.
Hi there Alicia and Steve , thanks for watching , i'm glad you enjoyed it , it was done over a long period of time . I'm in the process of making another bit bigger kiln ,hope it turns out OK . Yeah the free mill gold is always easier ,that's why a lot of the old timers didn't bother with the sulfides , too hard and they often walked away from it , but i think it's a lot of fun , but dangerous ,especially with Arsenopyrites , i always put carbon in the roast , to neutralize it just incase , cheers guys and thanks for watching .
@@GrooberNedJardine I think you did an awesome job with this vid. Years ago i had a Keen RC-1 rockcrusher only chasing the free mill gold but did get heaps of sulfides witch were chucked with the waste now i wonder what was left in it LOL. Cheers Steve.
Wish I could find a good old boy like you here in southern Oregon I got all the tools and the motivation just need more knowledge my great-grandfather did a lot of the gold panning and processing of I was just too young I remember finding a mason jar full of his Mercury when I was about 7 or 8 just a year or so before he passed away our backyard was full of hundreds probably thousands of different rocks from everywhere he'd been taking samples as a kid it was amazing go back there and find large crystals and agates and thunder eggs if I could have only been a little older and remember all the stories I count myself lucky to remember the little I did and to have known him as long as I did I appreciate you sharing the knowledge you have it's an amazing thing to learn look forward to more videos in the future
Hi Ned, Thanks for the science lesson mate, enjoyed it very much. I know now that I will be keeping all that fools gold for the future melt down. I hope you have not been camping up there at Drake mate and running a camp fire to keep warm. Bad luck for those who live up there hay. Dennis
Thanks for watching Dennis , glad you liked the vid .Yeah it's a long tedious process , but very interesting as well , learning all about it , and i wouldn't like to be out at D right now with my chest cough , it's bad enough over on the coast with all the smoke and wind , lol , .Well it looks like i won't be going there for a while yet mate ,highways still cut off they say , anyway thanks for watching and commenting ,stay safe .
G'DAY , my lovely sister , how are you keeping , well i hope and all your family . You know when i start something iv'e got to see it all the way through , you gotta have something to do so you don't become bored ,lol , .It's an interesting hobby , thanks for watching and you take care hey .xxxxx
@@GrooberNedJardine I'm well Nev and so is all my family. I love watching what you are up to, I don't see much of you these past years as I know your very busy, but your always in my thoughts. Take care li'l brother. xoxo
@@helencruickshanks8432 ,That's good your all well then , yes work is flat out , we're booked up till Xmas , i would love to retire but will never afford it ,and now the pensions almost unavailable , ohh well as Ned Kelly's last words were , Such Is Life !!!! .
G' day Sean , yeah thanks mate , in future i want to try a litharge flux using lead oxide ,and cupelling it off , got all the gear , it's just hard getting the time , and if you can get free mill gold out in your creeks and rivers , that's always the way to go , don't bother with sulfides , lol , Yeah my old mate Crouch is heading down your way soon , it would be good if you could show him around a bit , he needs all the help he can get ,ha ha ha , cheers mate and thanks for watching ,and commenting .
Yes exactly Ryan , i only have a small amount to deal with , but with new technology these days the bigger mines have become so efficient that it's often viable to deal with much lower grade ore , thanks for watching and commenting , cheers .
Great video. The sulphides go red no because of the iron pan, but rather because the iron pyrites are oxidised from the high temps. And iron oxidised turns red.
Great video mate 👍 I've been collecting sulfides as well. My first smelt was a 17 gram magnetic metallic prill? I used soda ash and borax which is obviously the wrong mix. Can you buy champman flux in Australia? Cheers
Great video Ned. I’ve been looking for a simple diy kiln and I really like the looks of your. I’m assuming those are fire bricks of some sort. Can you tell me who makes them and where I could order some for delivery in the US.? Me and a couple partners have three claims here in the mother Lode in California one of which is a hard rock with a lot of serpentine and quartz. I picked up a little 6 inch D ring impact mill run with a quarter angle grinder just for sampling and have a whole bunch of sulfites and a tiny bit of free milled gold. I’d like to set up a double burner propane unit and see what values the sulphide produce. Much appreciated. thank you Rodney
Hi Rodney , that first kiln set up i had didn't last long , i upgraded to a bigger propane burner and made a better furnace out of a watering can , lined with refractory cement , and sleeved with Kaowool , a real beast . I have a video up showing it in action if you wish to view it , just check out my channel , the vid is called Smelting sulfides for Gold . You could buy a Devil Forge , i think their pretty cheap , but really the cheapest DIY kiln you could make is out of 2 inch Kaowool wrapped into a cylindrical shape tied round it a piece of wire , and mount it on a couple of fire bricks , use also the Kaowool for a lid . That's all Jason uses on his channel MBMMLC , Mount Baker Mining & Metals , hope that helps , cheers and thanks for watching and commenting , good luck .
Not too many bb's Jason , just started ,and still learning my way ,a long on going process , and iv'e still got your vid to watch yet , i'm sure that will be interesting . Thanks for watching and commenting ,cheers my friend .
HI Christopher , well i'm glad you enjoyed it , thanks for watching and commenting , hopefully i will be back out in the field as soon as i can ,cheers .
Well i don't know about that Bruce , it's amazing though , all this information is available from Mr Google ,and youtube , lol , we don't have to read books anymore , just cut to the chase and research what you want . Thanks for watching and commenting , cheers .
good morning sir.. i think i have a lot materials here like what u show in your video.. am really interested to learn more about procedures of extracting the Au from it. i like what you show and i hope we can have more. thanx
Hi Mick , any pyrites , whether iron pyrite , chalcopyrite , or arsenopyrite , if you know what pyrites look like , easy identified , it helps if they come from a known gold mine , lol ,as far as the grade goes ,cheers ,thanks for watching
@@mickellis8747 , OHH yeah i 'm always on the lookout for interesting mineralized rocks ,and quartz , anyone who says fools gold is rubbish , don't know what their talking about .
I am doing what you are, only I do not roast. I leach with HCL and bleach, evaporate the solution. Then I place the chlorides into AR. I am getting silver, palladium, platinum, and rhodium as well. Did you test for Platinum Group Metals? It won't hurt to try. Good luck. Nice video.
glenn abbott , i did think about using Hydrochloric and bleach to leach it , as i have done computer components to recover gold successfully , i haven't tested for PGM's , though unfortunately with work commitments and actually getting out prospecting when i can , my time is very limited , anyway good luck , thanks for watching and commenting , cheers .
Wow lots of work old mate For that lol lol I’m at Caloundra now just down from the fires Got a winning ticket to the detecting world championship On FB how cool is that ay So that’s on at end of month on my birthday yew $20,000 gold Barr up for grabs and detectors So wish me luck need some luck Hope you and Kerry are well mate Cheers for the science project yikes lol Crouch
Hey Crouch , hows it going , you would have got out of Warwick just in time before the fires ,and see our spot out at D , is all burnt out . Bruxner hwy still closed . Yeah i seen your post about the detecting championship , that's awesome mate , hope you win that , and you caught up with Cameron Smith , got some nuggies , yeeehaaa what's he like , a bit of a wild man i'd say , lol , anyway still got this flu bug ,croaky voice ,it's a real pain , ohh well ,we'll have to catch up soon hey . cheers mate .
GrooberNedJardine yea sure did mate And yea me too with that bloody cough ay Yea Cameron is a great bloke Knows his stuff in the bush and ocean He used to catch crocks too lol
Hi, i just subscribed 👍🌟🌟🌟🌟👍 from MEXICO, i have a question. . How can i separate gold from iron after i ground it... can the iron affect the gold when i smelt it? 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟❤🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
There are fluxes that dont require roasting the sulfides the process of smelting is very interesting . I seen a fellow keep his slag and resmelt it and coppell it to finish. I don't know if it's worth it or not but he did recover a little gold .
It's certainly not a money making exercise ,lol , just a hobby , i did the gold from computer parts exercise as well , there's no money in that either , just a bit of fun , just to see if i could do it , the fun is in the research , but when i go out to the creeks and rivers i pan , it costs me 100 bucks in fuel , so you see i don't do it for the money , it's my outlet from the everyday grind of my job ,lol, that's all there is to it , thanks for watching and commenting .
@@akgoldbear7669 he had near half a gram thats $25. and knowledge is worth more than its weight in gold. this video filled many gaps in understanding and I've forever thankful. The rocks my folks found in Arizona have thin layer of fine painted gold on them with many sparkling black sand looking stuff when cracked upen, it seems the exterior has oxidized to reveal the thin layer of gold. Excited to smash those rocks and see how big of a button they make. The mini ball mill was new to see and very impressive. THANK YOU
1000 subs , Yeeeeeehaaaaaa , only took 7 years 🤣Well , i just got home from work so i'm checking the notifications , and low and behold 1000 , subs . Thanks for letting me know mate , thanks for subbing , and i'll have to thank Kirk for sharing my vids too , cheers , from the land down under brother . Ned . 👍✌🌏🐨🦘✅
