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GOLF GTI TCR - standard vs Akrapovic EXHAUST TEST! 

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*BOTH CARS WERE DEFINITELY IN SPORT MODE*
Big thanks to VW UK for providing both a 2019 and 2020 model year Golf GTI TCR for this test. The 2020 comes with an Akrapovic exhaust system as standard but a pretty hefty price increase, big question, is it worth it? Listen to this exhaust test and decide for yourself!
Additional optional equipment on this vehicle (the grey 2020 TCR): • GTI TCR Performance Pack - 7.5J x 19” ‘Reifnitz’ alloys with 225/35 R19 tyres and anti-theft wheel bolts, derestricted top speed to 164 mph, lowered sports suspension by approx. 20mm and Dynamic Chassis Control (DCC) - variable suspension settings, choice of Sport, Comfort and Normal (£2,100) • Carbon fibre door mirrors (£475) • side decals - honeycomb design (£555)
Retailer fitted optional equipment: • Vodaphone S5-VTS - vehicle tracker including one year subscription (£534.19 incl. fitting)
Colour and trim: Pure Grey (£620) with TCR upholstery
Price as tested: £41,949.19
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@big_gooch1601
@big_gooch1601 5 лет назад
Not a big enough difference. Standard sounds fine.
@ABN17
@ABN17 3 года назад
Are you deaf?
@big_gooch1601
@big_gooch1601 3 года назад
@@ABN17 no I hear just fine, perhaps you are just more easily Impressed.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
It's a very similar design to stock, it's just made of titanium instead of stainless steel (significantly lighter) and with a slightly less restrictive muffler. :) It's never going to sound dramatically different. You are paying for the quality of the Akrapovic's workmanship.
@mukti7485
@mukti7485 3 года назад
@@big_gooch1601 LMFAO, if you can't hear nor admire the sound of an akrapovic over a standard exhaust .. well ... there are no words ...
@big_gooch1601
@big_gooch1601 3 года назад
@@mukti7485 nonsense, Golf R sounds great with Akrapovic, this sounds good but not worth the money over the stock sound, the clubsport already sounds good, if I had a decent motor that sounded crap stock I'd buy one.
@Piner5074
@Piner5074 5 лет назад
Standard sounds better than I thought tested directly against the Akrapovic, kinda glad you did this comparison, because I was thinking about retrofitting the system. So you’ve saved me some money.
@drunkensessions
@drunkensessions 4 года назад
Why does the Akrapovic sounds so much better on the R than on the TCR? Weird.
@jamie7tcr777
@jamie7tcr777 5 лет назад
Picking up my new TCR this weekend and glad I spent money elsewhere on the optional extras list as the stock exhaust is just as good!
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
I'm jealous, enjoy it!
@Spocksgoat
@Spocksgoat 5 лет назад
Jamie Thomson I’ve had mine a couple of months, I love it. Standard exhaust sounds great. Mine’s a daily drive, I’ll probably never use it on a track so don’t need a sports exhaust. Enjoy!
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@Spocksgoat
@Spocksgoat 4 года назад
Jamie Thomson Did you get your TCR?
@jamie7tcr777
@jamie7tcr777 4 года назад
@@Spocksgoat I did need two weeks in and its a whole new level compared to my non pp 2015 manual GTI
@official_nwf5012
@official_nwf5012 5 лет назад
Standard is just fine
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 4 года назад
I picked up my TCR in September. Done just over 1000 miles and the pops and bangs on the Akrapovic exhaust now sound amazing. You can even get it to do a proper "whip-crack" when you're really on it, which sounds awesome when you're in a tunnel or under a flyover 😄👍🏻 The car in this video was clearly not run in enough in my opinion. Mine is sounding better and better. I'm so pleased 😌 as originally I was so disheartened when I first saw this video, before I collected mine.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
Thanks for the feedback Darren. The press cars are always run-in to some degree, I seem to recall that one had 600 miles on the clock, 500 being the minimum before being released for press use. I''ve tried to be as scientific as possible with that test using the same roads on the same day and (definitely) the same mode (Sport). No tunnels or flyovers were used so it's possible the press car might sound the same as yours in that context. It's also possible the standard exhaust may sound just as good then too. I'm assuming you've haven't driven the standard exhaust car and if you have it won't be as extensively. Both cars have to meet the same drive-by noise regulations hence why there isn't a marked difference in my opinion but both cars sound surprisingly good so that's good for all owners. My big issue with the Akrapovic is that it's been forced onto buyers at £3000 making any performance pack car have a list price of over £40k meaning the car will cost an extra £1600 to tax over the first five years which is ridiculous especially when you can buy an aftermarket Akrapovic for £1800 and keep your old exhaust AND I suspect it's even better than the factory version as its noise is not so tightly regulated.
@irccafe
@irccafe 5 лет назад
Thank you, mate! You just saved me some bucks. Back in April when I got my TCR this was available only for R. I was waiting to be available for the TCR also, but hearing it I think I like the stock more and for sure does not justify the huge price.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Glad to be of help 🙌
@Saavvvv
@Saavvvv 5 лет назад
This will sound daft, but one of the reasons I just got rid of my 7.5 GTi was how crap it sounded. They all do, even the TCR and the R. Fantastic engine, crap noise. Oh and that akrapovic exhaust sounds no better than the standard one!
@Hobbes22
@Hobbes22 5 лет назад
I completely agree, I have a 7.5 PP, and the only thing that lets these down is the exhaust note. I feel a Scorpion coming on!
@JamesPCroad
@JamesPCroad 5 лет назад
I agree. Being 4 cylinders they sound like every thing else on the market. Dare I say, like a boy racer exhaust. I know its old school but its such a shame they no longer have a VR6 powered Golf in the range... R32, even the old 4Motion sounded fantastic, stock.
@Modshmockers
@Modshmockers 5 лет назад
The same reason for me how poor the Gti sounds is the reason mine is going too
@stevehastings6802
@stevehastings6802 5 лет назад
@@Hobbes22 agree. Have same car and only exhaust I've heard that sounds good is scorpion.. Not heard a clip of the 7.5 though.
@ali1093
@ali1093 4 года назад
Take a look at milltek excaust. Probally the best excaust XD
@smiler921
@smiler921 5 лет назад
I expect when the time comes I can still replace the stock one on mine with something tastefully fruity for less than the £3k+. My standard one pops and crackles more times than others, nearly 3k miles now. My Mk2 + Trackslag exhaust is good for the sound, prefer the more subtle TCR sounds for everyday use. Cheers for vid Andrew
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 5 лет назад
I wish the current fashion for anti-social exhausts would run its course. I do not want to hear the sound of an E888 engine...at all. GTIs are great cars to drive and that's where the pleasure lies imho.
@dazsden
@dazsden 4 года назад
The bangs off the MK7.5 R with Akra exhaust are borderline illegal! I've a Mk7 GTI-PP DSG with a Clubsport S exhaust and the bangs on gear change are very loud in the first 3 gears. But I think the 7.5 GTI (and TCR) was affected with by the WLTP and it seems the farts were mapped out or the exhaust system prevents them, or both! The DSG now just sounds like an automatic. My next car will hopefully be a TCR. I like the pops and bangs on over-run but don't like the lack of proper DSG farts when driving it on in manual mode. I think these have been a characteristic of the gearbox for some years and it's a shame to map them out. I don't think they use anymore fuel to make them either.
@kingkoeppy
@kingkoeppy 5 лет назад
I got the Akra.. and it have Pop and bangs xD was your exhaust warm? Maybe it needs more Miles ?
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Agree 👍🏻😊
@Broezmeli
@Broezmeli 4 года назад
Got it too and it clearly sounds more than in that VIdeo. Many pops and bangs lol
@soulmateseverywhere6309
@soulmateseverywhere6309 4 года назад
Yes this akra is kinda bad.
@garethh81
@garethh81 4 года назад
Can’t tell any difference
@iantaf5559
@iantaf5559 5 лет назад
Thanks Andrew, must admit, the standard sounded good but could it be that the Akrapovic fitted car was not sufficiently run in yet??
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I agree 👍🏻😊
@phil_zupra_b5880
@phil_zupra_b5880 4 года назад
It doesn't really get over in videos. But the stock exhaust is really good. I almost bought a Hyundai i30 because of the sound. But the day of the test drive i fell in love with the quality and extras and DSG (what i prefer). The 20k more or less weren't a deal breaker. Im always surprised of how good it sounds in real life driving past me. It really doesn't get over on video. But im thinking of a exhaust from APR, especially because the warranty isn't affected, that's the nice thing with APR. Pardon my English.
@manjbains1977
@manjbains1977 5 лет назад
I love the Golf Gti's & Golf R's but they all sound the same to me. Also hate the fart sounds on cars. To me it sounds like the car is broken lol. £3k for the Akrapovic exhaust, all depends how deep are your pockets plus if you do decide to sell the car at a later date, most new owners will be more interested.
@Spike0000
@Spike0000 5 лет назад
For looks..the Grey one all day long..Lovin' that colour recently..its becoming as popular as black..In terms of the sounds..in all honesty..I'd say the standard red one had a nicer burble to it..and subtle pop. The Akrapovic sounded raspy..like it had been blown....
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
It so close I wouldn't spend any extra that''s for sure, especially the £320 a year extra road tax for 5 years that you'd need to pay as you'll hit the £40k luxury car tax threshold with just a few modest options now the list price is £37665 😱
@Spike0000
@Spike0000 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard Woah..nearly 38 grand?..that some lolly that:)....
@michaelmartenson791
@michaelmartenson791 5 лет назад
Well to be honest... I got a TCR with Akra too...and it Bangs and Pops a lot! This comparison imho is not good. Why? You compared the standard exhaust in sport mode with the akra exhaust in normal mode. You can clearly hear that. The switching operations are so quite and smooth (without farts) what just happens if you are in normal mode! So I just can say that my TCR with Akra sound (in sport mode) like it should! I think that the grey car with Akra was NOT in sport mode. A few comments before the video creator answered that both cars were in sport mode but i doubt this! Btw iam from Germany... mabye GB has different exhaust standards.. i dont know... mine sounds as an akra should sounds like!
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I have to agree. It was me that asked was it in sports mode and the reply was yes. But I'm not at all convinced. Yes, maybe UK spec is different or perhaps quieter than the rest of Europe. I get my TCR with the Akrapovic titanium exhaust next week, very excited. I just hope it sounds good. Not like the one in the video. Also, they did a launch at the end with just the standard exhaust but not the Akrapovic exhaust, why? I'm not convinced by this video. VW simply wouldn't put an expensive akrapovic on the car and it not sound any different.
@Broezmeli
@Broezmeli 4 года назад
I Agree with you aswell. I own the TCR with the AKRA too and it sounds absolutly nice. It Pops as it should... Greetings from SWitzerland. Nachbar :)
@michaelmartenson791
@michaelmartenson791 4 года назад
@@Broezmeli Grüezi Nachbar ;-)
@michaelmartenson791
@michaelmartenson791 4 года назад
@@MrDarrenNice Yeah... and btw.. i dont know the exact time but i think it was last year...before that there was the awesome version of the Jaguar F-Type (4 pipes important! Not this new bullshit sounding 2 pipe) This car have had an absolutely stunning sound - loud, brutal... like a beast. But after this new exhaust regulations this car sounds really poor... maybe this is the same case here? I dont know...
@marjanjukic7260
@marjanjukic7260 4 года назад
They are the same. I own a red TCR since April 19 with standard exhaust. The standard is very fine: not too loud, not too quiet!
@tedfresh67T-Fresh
@tedfresh67T-Fresh 4 года назад
The same sound. I have bout GTI TCR last month with the standart exhaust and i found it's good enough !
@darrencottrell5541
@darrencottrell5541 5 лет назад
Stock gets my vote in terms of VFM. It may release a few performance benefits, but I'd rather spend the cost-price on options or enjoy the throttle and save the pennies for fuel. I can't imagine it improving the residuals much either.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@darrencottrell5541
@darrencottrell5541 5 лет назад
​@@MrDarrenNice Thanks Darren. I'm not sure that is in the best interests of customers, but what do I know. :)
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
@@darrencottrell5541 Agree. It was hard to swallow when I ordered mine but I also knew that I wanted the Akrapovic anyway. Although VW should give people a choice. I'm reserving judgment till I've heard it in the flesh and I also appreciate that it takes a while to run in before the exhaust starts to sound good. I'm excited either way 😁
@soranrix
@soranrix 5 лет назад
sounds pants not worth the 4-5000 euro´s, they really did ok upping the end pipes on the first the club sport and now the tcr, would rather buy an aftermarket hjs down pipe with stock exhaust and save the rest off the money for gas he he, but why do you have to se the rear box when driving behind a golf gti??? my first mode would be rattle can it black so it does not show. that is a big minus on gti from 5/6 and up regards Sören
@rog190quattro
@rog190quattro Год назад
When you think the standard sounds pretty good and I think keeps you in cheaper tax bracket so I’m more than pleased I gave standard exhaust for sure
@AKA.JohnnyHai
@AKA.JohnnyHai 4 года назад
Can tcr exhaust fit normal 7.5 GTI?
@alexcox8497
@alexcox8497 7 дней назад
Yes
@ghostinthemachine76
@ghostinthemachine76 5 лет назад
Neil Birkitt in the credits. He used to write for VW Driver, if my memory serves me right.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Yes indeed, he was editior of VW Driver from 2000 - 2019 and Audi Driver 2015 - 2019 and part of the team behind GTI International and Audi Driver International. Sadly that all went out of business in Feb this year but he's editing a trade magazine about engine building now which seems a lot less hassle.
@ghostinthemachine76
@ghostinthemachine76 5 лет назад
volkswizard Is he also working for VW UK? I miss VW Driver mag. I have a collection of old ones and always looked forward to the new edition.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
No, he was a guest like me. I miss VW Driver mag too and this time of year I really miss Audi Driver International
@mikemayers9353
@mikemayers9353 3 года назад
isnt since end of 2019 the standard actually the akra? since there is no standard just akra? or is that not in every market
@raphaelkunold
@raphaelkunold 4 года назад
I like the Standard one better it got more of that letoff rumble and the sound Profile is more defined.( me personally)
@ghostinthemachine76
@ghostinthemachine76 5 лет назад
I listened to this video whilst driving, and really struggled to tell the difference. The standard exhaust sounds better than I expected and the Akrapovic isn’t worth £3K. Solution - buy the standard car and get a Remus fitted. £2K saved and it’ll sound much better than the Akrapovic.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Pretty much what I'd concluded, the standard car sounds a lot better than a standard exhaust Golf R. There is always the possibility there have been some mapping changes across the model year but it's impossible to know for sure. I say that as the standard exhaust popped a lot on the overrun while the Akrapovic didn't.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I have replied this comment to someone else already 😊 But probably because he had it in normal or comfort mode. There's no way the one with the Akrapovic was in sports mode, no way. The revs where too low when driving along and the flaps are definitely closed. The Akrapovic is £2.4k, it just wouldn't sound the same as the standard one (which I admit sounds good in isolation). Something isn't right here! Obviously I'm very disappointed seeing as my TCR arrives in a matter of days and I've waited and paid the extra to get the Akrapovic titanium exhaust, so I'm expecting it sound bloody amazing, fingers crossed. Fingers crossed its not just a UK OPF thing 😔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rNN9tRxGqS8.html
@ghostinthemachine76
@ghostinthemachine76 5 лет назад
volkswizard Yes, I was very impressed with the standard exhaust. Would you take a TCR over an R?
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
@@ghostinthemachine76 No question I'd take TCR over R. Even in the dry yesterday with diff set to Sport it was squirming like my Clubsport S used to and I like that, it means you have to think about how much throttle. Also 70 mph feels like 70 mph, in a R 100 mph feels like 70 mph (I did drive mine in Germany so...). While that sound like a great achievement it does make it feel a little remote. TCR lets you drive, R drives itself.
@ghostinthemachine76
@ghostinthemachine76 5 лет назад
volkswizard I love the R but there are definitely advantages to the TCR. I certainly wouldn’t rule one out. Do you prefer the DSG or manual? And would you prefer manual
@karldale9217
@karldale9217 5 лет назад
Standard sounds miles better 👌🏻
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
and a lot cheaper, just think what you could buy in options with the £3k?
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I'm confused 😕 Why doesn't the Akrapovic sound miles better for a £2.4k exhaust which is now standard on the TCR. I've heard other ones on RU-vid with the Akrapovic titanium exhaust sounding amazing. Plus it burrbles more which I didn't hear once in this video. I have to ask the obvious, was the car that had the Akrapovic exhaust fitted, in SPORTS mode when you did the test? As to me it sounded like the flaps were closed. Fingers crossed its not just a UK OPF thing 😔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rNN9tRxGqS8.html
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Both cars were in Sports mode - apparently the OEM Akrapovic is quieter than aftermarket
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard Thank you for confirming... I can't be certain but the one on the other video, I assume is stock. Also, it did say warm after 300km… Maybe it takes a 300km trip to warm it up 😊 I just hope mine sounds good as I’m so disheartened after this video ☹
@LeeMGTi
@LeeMGTi 3 года назад
Is the Akrapovic a full turbo back system or just a cat back?
@alanbooth7280
@alanbooth7280 5 лет назад
Not a lot in it, certainly not £3k worth. Are there any performance gains with the akrapovic
@MrChrisGER
@MrChrisGER 5 лет назад
Where are the pops and bangs from the standard exhaust by Akrapovic???
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
That's a good question!
@k1mble592
@k1mble592 5 лет назад
No bangs and pops with 7G DSG.
@MrChrisGER
@MrChrisGER 5 лет назад
Marek the standard exhaust from the tcr makes good pops and bangs - i have one its still Good - Not Perfect But good
@XVossGames
@XVossGames 4 года назад
What if you put remus exaust?🤔
@sitosanchez_tcr
@sitosanchez_tcr 5 лет назад
Why at the end a Launch with stock and not with akra?? may be so new for that?
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Also so new that the exhaust isn't run in yet... In my personal opinion 😇 On a side note, I get my TCR in a few days and once fully run in, I'll upload what an akrapovic titanium exhaust should sound like. I'm not at all convinced by this video 👌🏻😁
@Rwecosher
@Rwecosher 3 года назад
just bought a standard TCR backbox for my gti
@davidbrady1551
@davidbrady1551 5 лет назад
Deffo not disappoint now after hearing the difference. I love the tcr just need to sort better tyres for it
@laceylouloulou
@laceylouloulou 5 лет назад
I’ve read all the comments. I’ve (rather brilliantly) concluded that it all depends on an individual’s definition of “better”.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
That's why I didn't want to get involved! Personally standard is fine and cheaper but it's shame this option is no longer available as we are forced to go Akrapovic
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
I find it odd that people don't seem to understand you are paying the premium for Akrapovic because the system is made out of titanium? :) It's always going to cost a lot more than stainless steel exhaust systems, be it the stock system or other aftermarket systems. Of course, you can get a similar or louder exhaust sound for less money (be it simply by deleting the resonator from the standard system or Milltek, Remus stainless steel systems etc), that has always been the case. :)
@stuart_wood
@stuart_wood 4 года назад
Do you know the part number of the exhaust or could you supply the VIN number of the car with the Akro system so I can get the PN. thank you.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
Hi Stuart, I'm afraid you'll need to contact a main dealer for the part number. To get the VIN, there are some websites (like ECP trade site) that will give you VIN from VRM, I shouldn't really post it on a public forum but if you DM me via Insta or Twitter I'll do it.
@stuart_wood
@stuart_wood 4 года назад
Hi @@volkswizard I appreciate your response and have subsequently found the PN through a TCR owner, but than you. Great videos and good reviews. All the best for 2020!!
@andrewkendall1425
@andrewkendall1425 4 года назад
Stuart Wood did you ever find the part number? I’m after it to as I’d like to retrofit it.
@stuart_wood
@stuart_wood 4 года назад
@@andrewkendall1425 Hi Andrew. Yes I do but I currently at work. I will post the PN in my next comment later today.
@andrewkendall1425
@andrewkendall1425 4 года назад
Stuart Wood that would be awesome. If you don’t want to post publicly you can email it to me at “drew dot kendall at gmail dot com”
@gh__
@gh__ 5 лет назад
Sounds nice, but not the same as pre-WLTP :D Hopefully tuning/exhaust companies find a way to bring back DSG bangs
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Both were quite farty between changes, particularly the standard one. Do you know if there were WLTP changes for the 2020 model year? I assume the 2019 car was WLTP approved anyway wasn't it and had a petrol (Otto) particulate filter?
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 4 года назад
Yeah this really just proves that you need a new downpipe if you want more volume from the exhaust... You can honestly keep the stock catback and just get a downpipe if you're looking for an audible difference.
@theclutch19
@theclutch19 5 лет назад
OMG...that is soooo not worth it. Thanks for doing this!!
@Helicoaster117
@Helicoaster117 4 года назад
Unfortunately not the same onride recording-setup. micro on the grey akrapo-TCR sounds pretty bad. Interesting fact: I ordered my TCR by the End of October 2019 with standard Exhaust, and picked it up January 11th surprisingly WITH Akrapovic Exhaust! :-)
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
Akrapovic was standard for 2020 model year so cars ordered after approx June 2019 would have all been equipped accordingly.
@talkinghead9664
@talkinghead9664 5 лет назад
Keep the vids coming..content is on point👍
@scott17373
@scott17373 10 месяцев назад
Did the Akrapovic push the price over the dreaded £40k ?
@RealSeth
@RealSeth 4 года назад
Nice Idea, but the microphone is very bad :-/
@rossmale8715
@rossmale8715 5 лет назад
This akra sounds a bit naff, probably the PPF in the system they have to install now, probably best with the standard system then change to an akra with downpipes the works,would be a hell of a lot better than the vw offering
@gordonmccartney5648
@gordonmccartney5648 5 лет назад
Exhaust noise is the exact same as the new Leon Cupra 290
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Agree, just watched your video 😊👍🏻
@rceauto
@rceauto 5 лет назад
There must be something wrong with the Akrapovic exaust because the sound it's not like that.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Yes I completely agree with you. Something isn't right with this video and even though the creator said they were both in sports mode I'm not convinced at all. The TCR with the Akrapovic sounded flat, like it was in normal or comfort mode.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Trust me it was in Sport, both were in Sport, I have a witness who is Neil Birkitt previously of VW Driver magazine who did all the driving and revving. The OEM part is quieter so don't compare to aftermarket Akrapovic
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
OEM and aftermarket Akrapovic are not the same. Are you comparing this car with another TCR with Akrapovic?
@sitosanchez_tcr
@sitosanchez_tcr 5 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2RJo7QKAJ-g.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Siu2boaWPCA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cTH8gm9A9xg.html
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard thank you for the reply. Maybe I just don't want to believe it having spent the extra on the Akrapovic (without being able to hear beforehand) 😇 I'll wait till I hear mine in the flesh. Pick it up next week 👍🏻 I also appreciate that the exhaust will need to be run in. Plus, the Akrapovic may have some sort of performance benefits with less weight and possibly a better flow? Albeit slight.
@10gimp39
@10gimp39 Год назад
Sound means nothing does it improve performance if not what is the point
@flyingcod14
@flyingcod14 5 лет назад
Both beautiful cars. Not much diff in sound esp for the extra price.
@PsyentifiqueLtd
@PsyentifiqueLtd 4 года назад
Normally Akrapovic adds 10hp to the car, is this still 290? If yes how come??
@CRISREACTS
@CRISREACTS 5 лет назад
They sound the same lol
@mrrobot4499
@mrrobot4499 4 года назад
Long live IPE exhaust system !
@kresa22
@kresa22 5 лет назад
What happened with the new video of trip to Frankfurt?
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
It was a bit lame as the 'ring had to be missed due to running late. Have tagged it onto the beginning of my Frankfurt 2019 report which is uploading right now!
@kresa22
@kresa22 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard ok waiting for it 😀
@kresa22
@kresa22 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard And it happened again ¿¿¿
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
@@kresa22 try again, sorry.
@Modshmockers
@Modshmockers 5 лет назад
Standard sounds much sweeter
@MarcoCoelho92
@MarcoCoelho92 25 дней назад
JCW sounds so much better with a JCW Pro exhaust !
@lloyd_3656
@lloyd_3656 5 лет назад
Standard sounds better imo. But the Akrapovic sounds like it flows better.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
That's interesting - I am sure the £3k gets you something and better flow may well be it
@toothy3637
@toothy3637 3 года назад
Standard exhaust in that comparison every time
@pheasantpluckersson2138
@pheasantpluckersson2138 5 лет назад
How do you make a 4 cylinder golf sound better? Sell it and buy an Audi with 5 cylinders 👍🏻
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
Not that disimilar in price now either!
@remfanuk1970
@remfanuk1970 4 года назад
@@volkswizard but is the rs3 that much a better drive?
@d.kashani
@d.kashani 3 года назад
standard sounds better imo
@davel8byr
@davel8byr 5 лет назад
I actually think the standard exhaust sounds better. I certainly wouldn’t spend the extra money on the other exhaust anyway
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I have replied this comment to someone else already 😊 But probably because he had it in normal or comfort mode. There's no way the one with the Akrapovic was in sports mode, no way. The revs where too low when driving along and the flaps are definitely closed. The Akrapovic is £2.4k, it just wouldn't sound the same as the standard one (which I admit sounds good in isolation). Something isn't right here! Obviously I'm very disappointed seeing as my TCR arrives in a matter of days and I've waited and paid the extra to get the Akrapovic titanium exhaust, so I'm expecting it sound bloody amazing, fingers crossed. Otherwise I should have simply bought the demonstrator... And fingers crossed its not just a UK WLTP or OPF thing 😔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rNN9tRxGqS8.html
@neilwatson5864
@neilwatson5864 5 лет назад
Akrapovic sounds better than Standard to me....but I can’t get overly excited by a 4 pot sound .
@pierresassareu5487
@pierresassareu5487 3 года назад
Standard sounds better!
@slamminx3
@slamminx3 5 лет назад
Not too much in it tbh.
@ferrygti8867
@ferrygti8867 5 лет назад
yes i like standard fine
@orbytl2799
@orbytl2799 5 лет назад
doesn't make enough difference to warrant the extra money cannot for the life of me see the point in paying big money for an akrapovic system on a vw golf when you can get a scorpion system for a fraction of the price
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Because its done from manufacturer so its all under VW's warranty. As soon as you start to do anything aftermarket to a brand new car, you void your warranty. Audi is the same with their Akrapovic exhaust.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 года назад
The Akrapovic is made of Titanium Alloy, it's more premium and lightweight. :) Plus this is an OEM part, within allowable noise variation from stock (aftermarket Akra systems without resonator, or most aftermarket exahsuts for that matter, exceed the allowed noise).
@whoisgoogle
@whoisgoogle 5 лет назад
Parp parp fart. Wow these 4 pots sound crap no matter how expensive the exhaust pipe
@talkinghead9664
@talkinghead9664 5 лет назад
Craps a bit harsh😂 but I do agree you are flogging a dead horse spending big cash to get a decent sound out of a 4 pot.
@ToMsK87
@ToMsK87 5 лет назад
Buy standard then get a Powervalve built exhaust !!
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@simonmanwaring3768
@simonmanwaring3768 5 лет назад
There really wasn't a lot of difference in my opinion!!!! Save your money !! And go standard
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@stevehastings6802
@stevehastings6802 5 лет назад
Sounds very similar.. Not worth the money imo. Looks good though.
@remfanuk1970
@remfanuk1970 4 года назад
akrapovic sounds 5% better but not worth the £3k or so vw charge. standard sounds ok but it does still need something better...remus, bcs, etc...
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
Problem is, Akrapovic is now standard and price has increased by £3k!
@remfanuk1970
@remfanuk1970 4 года назад
@@volkswizard that's just crazy...have vw lost their collective minds? it will kill sales i think.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
@@remfanuk1970 Hopefully big discounts will be coming but are they still building Golf 7.5? I'm watching prices keenly
@k1mble592
@k1mble592 5 лет назад
Standard Akra, there is not really a big difference, not worth the money. there are cheaper and better exhausts on the market.
@mordechaileviyitzchak6738
@mordechaileviyitzchak6738 5 лет назад
They could have found a better name for something costing £2.4k...why? because in my hearing, it sounds crap!
@neilmartin110
@neilmartin110 4 года назад
EA888 sounds like Bieber sticker a bigger woofer on it doesn't make it better.
@colintipple83
@colintipple83 2 года назад
Give me standard!!!
@malcolmscott4150
@malcolmscott4150 5 лет назад
Akrapovic has my vote - seems bassier??
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 5 лет назад
It definitely sounds better in certain situations but seems to lack to the overrun pops of the standard exhaust, weird, maybe that's WLTP changes?
@malcolmscott4150
@malcolmscott4150 5 лет назад
@@volkswizard I am interested to see the emission specification we get in Oz when TCR is released here in October - our current GTI is Euro 6 and on 95 Ron outputs of 180Kw and 370 Nm with engine code CHHA are quoted along with 0-100 time of 6.2 sec with DSG - if I consider replacing my RS265 I'd want similar performance AND sound :) although not sure I can give up manual trans and lively RS chassis.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
Hi Malcolm... I think the valves were closed on this video. Fingers crossed its not just a UK OPF thing. Anyway listen to this video, with overrun ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rNN9tRxGqS8.html
@garymartin557
@garymartin557 5 лет назад
now the real test is: how different is the torque curve/ power curve, fuel economy. They both sound to my ears anyway umm! be gentle.... like well not nice.
@mukti7485
@mukti7485 3 года назад
The difference is like black to white for me LMAO ... hard to imagine people don't hear the difference. guess that's why cheap supermarkets still sell cheap ass headphones over high quality ones.
@POKEBELGE
@POKEBELGE 3 года назад
Normal is beter 💪
@Dgnkrty
@Dgnkrty 3 года назад
I dont really hear much difference to be honest. Akra disappoints me tbh
@sidmi5utc980
@sidmi5utc980 5 лет назад
Standard all day long . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gy20HpzruDo.html
@FireTwo
@FireTwo 5 лет назад
Meh save the money for fuel brakes and trackdays
@david_100
@david_100 4 года назад
the same
@freehold01
@freehold01 5 лет назад
Standard is much better!
@shaftiee
@shaftiee 2 года назад
Why does he miss pronounce Akrapovic like Crapovic!!
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 2 года назад
That's the right way, like Abramovich
@leedixon5007
@leedixon5007 5 лет назад
Absolute waste of dollar. Stick with standard.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
You don't have the choice now as from around July, when spec'ing/ordering a new TCR, then you get the Akrapovic as standard now and don't have the option to choose the standard exhaust. Of course it does mean VW put up the base price to include the new Akrapovic exhaust.
@volkswizard
@volkswizard 4 года назад
But you can't because Akrapovic is now standard!
@AbertaweJack
@AbertaweJack 5 лет назад
Just buy an R32, sounds better than any.
@SciroccoR1909
@SciroccoR1909 5 лет назад
All the sound brings nothing to you if a fiat 500 is catching you on the autobahn ;)
@mbingham10
@mbingham10 4 года назад
Hardly any difference they both sound shit compared to an a45 or rs3
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 4 года назад
Wasn't much difference.
@automotivelin
@automotivelin 10 месяцев назад
😅 akrapovic is best
@mr_glasgow84
@mr_glasgow84 4 года назад
Not much of a difference really.
@pgrewcock
@pgrewcock 5 лет назад
Get a v8...😀
@dennisg5714
@dennisg5714 4 года назад
absolutely no difference.... shame on akrapovic.
@kokekan75
@kokekan75 5 лет назад
Much better on a Golf R.
@scotty2036
@scotty2036 3 года назад
Very disappointing exhaust sounds
@moeketsimaphela18
@moeketsimaphela18 5 лет назад
Not worth it.
@MrDarrenNice
@MrDarrenNice 5 лет назад
I have replied this comment to someone else already 😊 But probably because he had it in normal or comfort mode. There's no way the one with the Akrapovic was in sports mode, no way. The revs where too low when driving along and the flaps are definitely closed. The Akrapovic is £2.4k, it just wouldn't sound the same as the standard one (which I admit sounds good in isolation). Something isn't right here! Obviously I'm very disappointed seeing as my TCR arrives in a matter of days and I've waited and paid the extra to get the Akrapovic titanium exhaust, so I'm expecting it sound bloody amazing, fingers crossed. Otherwise I should have simply bought the demonstrator... And fingers crossed its not just a UK WLTP or OPF thing 😔 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rNN9tRxGqS8.html
@maedhros0111
@maedhros0111 4 месяца назад
No sound at all…my GTI 7.5 performance (2017, without OPF) sounded better (really)
@gtiak274
@gtiak274 4 месяца назад
Don't think so!
@maedhros0111
@maedhros0111 4 месяца назад
@@gtiak274 I wish you could hear it
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