The ‘chest to sky’ feel has really helped me to find a repeatable and more centred swing. Spent (wasted?) so much time on other drills from other online coaches-this one is fundamentally and positively effective-with added bonus of immediate feedback leading to consistency! This has revolutionised my swing and allowed enjoyment to once again return to my game!
Best instructor on RU-vid! Chest to sky and keeping your head centered is critical to consistent ball striking. One extra thing I found helpful, from the top, swing out to right field in follow through.
Eric...I have had lateral movement problems for more than 70 years...even when I was low single figures. Starting to play again after lock-down I've been struggling again and looking on line for a solution. Your explanation of the mechanics of the problem is by far the most lucid and helpful that I've found...particularly the 3-dimensional element. Thanks for an excellent insight. Percy.
Hi Eric. Just went out side and did the shadow drill. I found I indeed moved right off the ball. Used the combination of extension of the thoracic spine, using the thought 'keep bent but chest higher' and left shoulder to the left foot and that worked great to keep me centered. So once again, a video with with great tips. Good job! Love it. Thanks for all you do for us amateurs struggling with the golf swing.
I had already started working on this when I found this video. My thought was to keep my right shoulder inside my right foot throughout the backswing. If you move off the ball the first thing to happen is that right shoulder goes outside and around that right foot. I look forward to trying the shadow drill. Thanks!
Great instruction Eric. I feel many of your vids are aimed at better players or people who are nerdy about the inner workings of technique and fundamentals of the swing. As a low handicapper all my life (5 and below), almost 50 years of golf, I find them really helpful and your style is nice to work with. I like these long vids (12 mins) as they keep me company on the drive home from work. Keep it up.
this guy is the best ever at explaining things. every one of his videos are clear and concise. only wish could have the same content 30 yrs. ago before all my faults were ingrained
Came across this while I was looking for a cure for the occasional topped shot. Tried it last night at the course and the results were unreal. Solid contact with irons and the driver. It feels strange at first like I'm going to drive the ball into the ground ..but the sound of my shots and the trajectory have improved dramatically!! Thanks!
I’ve recently started watching your videos over the last two weeks and your instruction is amazing. I’ve been off from school so I’ve had quite a lot of time to play golf and, I will tell you that your videos alone have taken 10 strokes off my game in two weeks. I honestly think it would be more if I simply remember what I’m supposed to be doing and not fall into old habits during some swings. Thank you so much!!
Great video. I’m finding with a longer backswing and staying more centred , has got me my power back. Although my weight does feel more on the inside of my left foot, having said this, I feel very coiled and feel confident rotating through. Unfortunately Eric , I live in England, so the shadow drill is often a no no . Keep up the great videos. Best wishes Gary.
Some of the best tips I've ever seen and I've been studying the swing for a very long time! I've been as low as a +1 handicap but I'm very inconsistent because I sway off the ball, I always have and I've been trying to "fix" it for years. Your tip on the chest towards the sky might be exactly the thought I've been looking for! Thanks!
Hey Eric, this is another awesome insight... I first started watching your videos 2-3 months ago, i had all the old favourite swing faults crossed at the top from cupped left wrist (your video on wrist condition solved this for how I understand things and learn), early extension lack of rotation (was a combination of 4 or 5 lesson videos and instruction videos that solved this for the most part) I realised that this video was the final missing piece getting rid of the last little bit of EE, I had a bit of trouble with the first couple of shots ( I was moving right and left to recover and not moving right and staying centred still felt the compulsion to move left which put me way ahead of the ball and stuck through impact) added the left shoulder feeling like it’s pulled up and behind me and wouldn’t u know it ...... open through impact and more than ever before. All I can say is thanks for all the information you give in a way I can understand it. I am from Australia your videos have changed golf for me 12.7 - 8.1 in a little under 3 months cheers man appreciate it all soo much Ps pre ordered your website 👍
Nick, My pleasure man. Happy to help and happy to hear you're on the right track! Look forward to seeing you on the site and continuing your progress! Let me know if you ever need anything
Hi Eric, I Follow you from Germany for several weeks. There are a lot of amazing and helpful hints Given by you. It changed my Game totally. This Video is One of the best ever from my prospective. I still struggle with stack & Tilt on a slope. Can you Give any instructions? Thank you very much!
Hey Hanno! Appreciate the support! I can definitely give instructions but I need to see your swing on video to offer any worthwhile specific advice. Join www.cogornogolf.com so you can send me your videos!
This is gold. Nailed it Eric. And explained why it feels weird when I'm so used to moving off the ball for so long. Finding the sweet spot again is savage. Thank you👍
I have been trying to work out how you achieve your position at the top, watching this all of a sudden it becomes apparent. Now there is a totally different feeling at the top, and from that position the transition is almost a reaction to getting to the top. Eric once again thank you for your instructional videos, I now have this winter to reinvent my swing.
Hi~~from korea again^^ I can't wait till morning. Korea is midnight now. I've been learning 2 and half months, also I've been watching this videos the same, and here is big thing. . . Me and my golf teacher(I don't how to call in English) are watching same videos without knowing each other. We just find out today. We have same turmb on you~~ U are very famous!!! THANK SO MUCH!
You remind me of of Dj kahled when he says another one and another one lol your teaching style and videos are the best online by far you break down the golfswing and simplify the swing in small pieces where people can understand and not give a general answer you sir are Platinum in my book thanks Eric !!!!!!!
The chest pointing to the sky drill creates so many good things in the swing. It produces more power, better turn, puts you on a more upright swing plane if it’s too flat which has been my crutch for years. The only thing that you would probably have to be aware of with the left shoulder pointing down is a reverse “C” on the follow through if you keep your weight on your right side too much. Shadow drill is genius. As usual, great videos Eric.
I love the way you explain stuff. You actually make things complicated seem so easy to understand! I've watched so many of your videos 2day m8. Keep grinding and all the best to you in these tough times m8
I have been trained to do this wrong. As a 16 year old my PGA pro used to give me such a hard time about not getting behind the ball(letting my head move backwards) in the backswing. I always disagreed with him, but thought I must be missing something. I’m 37 now and I’ve finally realized that staying centered is the key to consistency. I went to look for videos of anyone who might think the same as me, and that led me here. Eric Cogorno might be the best teacher in golf.
Great video and I like that you are not afraid to give "Stack and Tilt" credit for the now popular centered turn swing most good players are using. The S&T swing method has been treated negatively by golf traditionalists but it truely is a good system and it is easy to learn.
This is an amazing video! Good work.... The shadow drill is something that my students will be using here in Denver! I never thought of this. Seriously, great video in getting shoulders on plane. This to me is one of the most critical concepts to sell students on.
Really well explained. I have had a tendency to sway right which usually results in a smothered hook left and a lost ball (…actually 3 last Saturday !).
Eric, this is exactly what I do in my swing. Too much lateral movement leading to inconsistent ball striking. These two drills are perfect and can be done at home during the winter. I have always lifted my left heel in the backswing, so I need to practice not doing that because I don't see you doing that.
Hope it helps, James! I would say its OK to lift the left heel....so long as you stay relatively centered! Plant it back down to start downswing if you do
Eric your no doubt the man in Golf brother awesome with those feel drills,,,not sure how many cuts or takes you do up there but IQ is up there very vary well spoken!! Ty for the 30th time !!!! My game has improved unbelievably because of your teachings ✌
I've always struggled with the tilt..when I do my backswing right, it really feels like I'm barely moving...that extension piece really really helped...I always tend to move off the ball and I don't get why...this is great
Today I worked on this on the practice ground before teeing off at Lo Romero, Murcia, Spain. During the comp I hit one fat shot that caused a double bogey. I hit three other loose shots but oh my gosh everything else was so good. I did feel like I was stack and tilting but I played to my 10 handicap for the first time in over a year. Feel v real , my playing partners said it was the best they have seen me swing
I am guilty of trying maintain spine angle in the back swing, thus making me move right of centre making transition impossible. I am an avid watcher of your channel, time and time I have heard you say if there is a problem in the down swing its probably as a result of the back swing. Looks like your right again Cogorno! Thanks Eric.
Great stuff Eric. I am lucky to be in Spain and I have been practicing your bunker stuff today but I have a sway swing flaw that is causing bad shots. When I feel I am leaning left I really hit great shots today even with hybrids out of bunkers
Eric, as always, great job. This lesson is brilliant and exactly what I needed. I have been trying for the longest time to figure out why I am lowering my head and moving to far to the right. Now I know. Thank you sir!
As a point of reference, I saw an article o or the shadow drill about 20 years ago. The purpose of The drill as explained in The article was to promote a swing about the spine. I like 👍this video because it more full explains the purpose of the drill.
The shadow drill is a great idea. In doors could use a spot light or light above and behind yourself. I just tried this in my garage and it worked well.
I have always had issues with being centred during my swings. Get's really frustrating! Thanks for the video and i have just subscribed to your channel
Eric-this is one of the most helpful online videos regarding the pivot. My issue on the downswing is spinning out - feeling that I need to turn back to the ball. The rotation back is too flat without a downswing right side bend. Any advice or drills to try to correct this?
I like the video. There is one thing that I think might go wrong while doing the steady head drill and that is moving the right hip away from the target. You got this down pretty good and internally rotate at the right hip socket causing it to slightly move towards the target.
Always like centered! Whatever concepts get the job done...lots of great players in stack and tilt schooling. Andy and Mike are great, lots of good young players coming up
Hey there! I think you'll enjoy checking out these two videos for all the details! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WfqDbTB0Zf8.htmlfeature=shared ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6p85VkiCqmQ.htmlfeature=shared
Great Video - For the ball and shadow drill is it possible to use it for the transition? If so could you allow the head to move down, relative to the ball, to accommodate more forward bend and/or back a little to allow some side bend? Say if you were rehearsing this in slow motion? Thanks for the explanation - As always a great breakdown of the movement detail in a way that allows me improve right away.
Good info, FYI GG did not invent the "shadow drill"? Butch Harmon used to use that with Greg Norman and Hale Irwin used to talk about it back in the late 80's early 90's.
So far this works great for irons. With driver, it's hard to do when I address the ball with a lean to the right. I'll keep working on that. With the irons, the contact is amazing.
I am korean.I have not been taught this kind of lesson.I think this point is very important in mordern golf swing. Frankly speaking,I am roughly understood because of poor english.I am more thinking over on extension.Any many thanks!!! I am enthusiastic subscriber.
Great video. I am one who has constantly struggled with moving off the ball. As you mentioned my right side feels very passive and my right shoulder does not have a feeling off going up and behind me. I tend to collapse my right arm and get flat and restricted with the arms. I can make the move to stay centered without a club doing the drills you suggest but when I try to do it with a club, it is difficult in terms of my spatial awareness of the club/arms/hands. Could you offer a feeling of where the arms, hands and club should feel in space relative to the body as one tries to stay centered?
Absolutely...everyone can do it easier without the ball...always more difficult when the ball is there. I can't really offer a stock FEEL for what the arms should do...that is too dependent per person..If you're arms get too far behind you (deep) like you say you would need to feel them going more vertical...left arm more up, not in...left arm off chest
Just started watching your lessons. Easy to understand. Your analysis on swing faults are are excellent and the drills are easy to understand. Thanks I have subscribed to your lessons. Thanks, and by the way we’re are you located. Robert Moore, Myrtle Beach, SC.
I had had a problem with swaying for a long long time. For 80% of my shots I somehow kept it in check, or I somehow compensated and was still able to hit the ball well. But for the rest, I would often top the ball. I finally figured it out. Now in my backswing, I put pressure on the inside of my right foot, (I’m right-handed) because I realized I was letting my weight shift go to the outside of my right foot as my body swayed back a bit. As Eric often says, one motion leads to the opposite motion which means I would sway forward after swaying back. But now, by putting the pressure on the inside of my right foot on the backswing, it anchors me. My head doesn’t shift. I don’t know if this would work for everybody but it was one of those revelations that really helped my swing.
Thank's again Eric for another top notch video. Hard to make "Shadow Drill" work real well here in Seattle with out artificial lighting. But I get the point.
Well, if you execute it incorrectly. It really depends on how you define reverse pivot.... Reverse pivot to me would refer to too much lean of the upper body toward target during backswing. Thats can happen from a combination of movements or lack of movements (turning, tilting and extending). Left shoulder should go down and to the right, not just down.
Roger that. I just went to the range and practiced this for an hour. I am 6 foot 4 and have larger arms and shoulders. I have struggled to find any swing thoughts that truly help keep to keep me centered. This was great. Thanks again!!
My pleasure. In a literal sense if you're moving too far off the ball you would need to look at 2 pieces 1. Left side bend (left shoulder more down) 2. Flexion/extension ( the more you stay in flexion the more you move off the ball)
I watched the video and gave a very hardy and stupefied laugh at 3:27 to 3:42 because trying other movements never got me to FEEL them correctly. YES, I must extend my spine to keep my head centered during my rotation. Bro, been struggling 15 years and wasted all that time slaughtering the sod. I can understand what you and GG speak of. Oh, and GG is the MAN!!!!!
Hi Eric, it's a great info for me. And i think this wiil help me to hit behind. However, if my left shoulder aiming my left foot, I don't think I can have a 90 degree turn? Is that what I thinking is right? Thanks
Eric, Ive had a bad problem of reverse spine tilt for years trying to keep my head over the ball. I've been taught recently to keep my chest pointed down in the same arc during my back swing and that my eyes should be looking at my right foot at the top. This puts me in about a 3 degree ish spine tilt away from the target. I have had success with this so far but my head does move off the ball. Should I add more hip turn and left knee flection?
Thanks for the message. I would have to see your swing to be able to give you good specific advise. If you've been moving too much toward target during backswing, then a FEEL of moving more off the ball may very well be good. OK to move off ball some so long as you move back toward target on way down
Ive seen where you mention opposites in golf with past videos. (For example, Upright backswing equals a more shallow delivery) But my question is, will a slight lateral movement to the right during the backswing provide a more ideal impact position? For example Henrik Stenson. Thanks hope that made sense.
Not necessarily...too many other variables involved...weight shift or not doesn't guarantee anything . I do like a pressure shift into the right foot while keeping body mostly centered
G.Gankas adds also 2 balls at the hips level on the shadow (one on each side) to check that the hips also stay centered. It is no good to keep the head centered and let the hips moving away from the target for instance. It will help to have the complete feeling and not introduce a fault to succeed in keeping the head centered. Uh, at least, I think so... ;)
I find myself coming back to this concept when my irons/wedges get inconsistent. this won't cause a reverse pivot though? should we start with a little bit of spine axis tilt to the right on address?
Glad to hear that. Well it could...you need to record yourself. You can overdo anything. Record yourself. Draw a circle around head. Keep head in circle
Would you say you start turn with both hips and shoulders or do you feel shoulders start first then hips catch up? Wondering if I’m starting with hips too much is causing me to move off ball
Shadow drill, man that's gonna be useful at night under cooler conditions and using a night light source, I'm in the south and I need to work on stuff in cooler temps Haha Another SOLID technique drill, I use drills in baseball lessons and if I get them somewhere else that's part of learning and using what works. If it works No Shame in da Game baby!! It's all for a greater cause of learning, gonna hit the range this morning before work and concentrate on a couple feels from your other videos, as stated before let the Haters hate cause you're pumping out SOLID fundamental instruction, thank you Sir!!!!!!!!!!!
So I tried out the Tee to Thigh drill and pushing with my right arm more, certainly helping my slight draw to not be so bad when I miss hit, swing, and as I stated in a previous comment I love the strong grip etc, well pushing with my right arm, hand takes the dominant strong grip out some, feels different but I'm ok with it, was certainly hitting more none hooking shots while messing with those techniques, gives me something to work on, I'm gonna hit the range again tomorrow morning and see if I can work on those some more!!
So after a second range outting I'm certainly not hooking the ball like I was before, the pushing with the right hand, arm is helping the cupping of the left lead arm, so now I'm getting a few pushes to the right which I know my swing path is In to Out causing that. So it seems my hook issue was Closed club face and In out Swing path, hopefully I can get the swing path better soon to continue the progress!!! Thank you sir!!
