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Joel's not having a heart attack. He's having panic attacks. Strikingly realistically portrayed. Like...give him an emmy now for that alone. Sheesh, that man can act his face off!

Great point guys. Tess is basically dead because of Tommy's radio silence. Of course Joel is pissed.

Marlon and Florence in the opening scene are another iteration of Bill and Frank: a loving couple that survived by focusing inward and isolating. The Depeche Mode song from the ending of episode 1 is the closing song here. It's performed by Craig Mazin's daughter...he said because this episode focused on fathers and daughters he wanted to tie that in by including his own daughter. Talking about football is reminding us about their journey: moving in one direction with violence.

“Is that the wifi password?” *Literally the names of the dead kids Oop *silence

I'm glad they pulled back on the action. There's only so many people the hero can kill before I stop caring about his reasons for it.

Menstrual cups have been around since at least the 80s. At least the rubber ones were. Before that they were latex since the 60s I believe. Cups of some kind have been around since the 1870s. Soft silicone ones were first introduced in 2001 so 2 years before the outbreak. They were called Mooncups.

Its odd that people always seem to think that Joel is having a heart attack. He is not having a heart attack. He is having panic attacks! I had multiple panic attacks myself and I can confirm that its like he acted and how he said he is feeling when he is having those panic attacks.

@Nerdy Nightly, 29:20 Joel's 56. I thought we're seeing a softer side of Joel because we're going to see the side of Joel that Robert was afraid of and the one Marlene entrusted Ellie too. We've gotten glimpses of that man, but now that Joel's heart has opened up and he's gotten attached, fear has crept in--he has something to lose! And now that he's on the brink of death, that feeling is going to intensify, for the both of them. We're about to learn what they both mean to each other, and I don't feel sorry for anyone ready to test them. The last three episodes of this season are going to be WILD! I cannot wait to see them. Let's go! PS: regarding the menstrual cup, most men didn't know what it was--half of the reactors I watched thought it was some form of contraceptive! I thought it was pretty f'ed up that they thought it a town of three hundred would give a 14 year old girl traveling with a 56 year old man contraceptives and call it a day. WTF?! I'm surprised more people (mostly men) didn't know what that cup Ellie was holding is. Do schools not talk about tampons, pads and the like at schools?

I just had the thought, imagine if Henry and Sam had been ok. They may have been able to settle in Jackson and live their lives 😭 it hurts my heart.

Pedro's always been a good actor but this was definitely his Emmy moment. He's been good all season in this show and obviously this project outside of Narcos has given him his first real chance to say hey I can act...but damn I really enjoyed that scene and he deserves a nomination at the very least.

There is a reason why Henry is shown again at the beginning. That was for the fans, because that's exactly how the cut had been made in the game. One shot, then black, then dam. The reason why Joel doesn't teach Ellie much or let her do it things is that she wouldn't be cargo anymore. Such things create a mutual connection that Joel did not want until then. He doesn't want to give her the option to take care of him. Just like Sarah did back then. I mean she did the housekeeping, made sure he wore his shirt the right way around ect. It costs overcoming to leave something stuck in your body that you do not want to have and does not belong there. The head must remain clear and you must be aware of what is happening to you. The scene is kept very realistic, also as far that the injury is not immediately noticed. Anyone who has ever severed a finger on a circular saw knows what I'm talking about. Maria to Ellie: "Be careful who you put your faith in. The only people who can betray us are the one we trust." Probably the most important sentence of this episode if not of the whole series. Joel to Ellie: "Dream of sheep ranches on the moon." This sentence says so much. Joel already connects Ellie's dreams with his. Ellie drank from Joel's liquor and it was "STILL gross". That was a callback to the DLC. Next episode Ashley Johnson (Game Ellie) will properly get an appearance in the Ellie Flashback (Game DLC). This episode was a feast for everyone who played Part 2. we met Dina, properly Jessie, Shimmer, Bison Bar, sheep, kids playing snowball, Astronauts, Jackson see from the inside. Simply fantastic. The campfire scene was not in the game, but was originally supposed to be included. Druckman said he can now finally show more through the series than was possible in the game. Actually, Piedro is the support actor for Bella. Because it's all about Ellie. The story is basically told from their point of view. And even before Ellie, Sarah and not Joel was in focus. This is underlined by an interesting feature that real "brutality" is only shown to us when Ellie sees it. We see Joel beating the soldier to death in episode 1 because Ellie is there and sees it. Ellie tortures and kills the stalker in episode 3. We see Joel's sniper kills because Ellie sees them. We see Henry's death, Sam being shot and Kathleen's death. We see the broken neck in this episode. With all other kills (Old Sniper, Bryan) you only hear it because the camera is focused on Ellie while she doesn't see these killings herself.

I don’t know if you got it but Joel was having panic attacks, him saying about the cold was just lying to Ellie he was just panicking. The first time was hearing that Tommy was probably dead, then when Ellie was getting sniffed by the dogs and then when Tommy says he’s going to be a father because it reminds him of Sarah

Another sensational episode. Pedro Pascal's acting in this episode evoked a wide range of emotions. Tears were streaming down my face during THAT scene with Tommy, Pedro absolutely nailed that scene. It was so great to see Joel's vulnerability on display. This episode was exceptionally well-written. His trauma and his fear of failing Ellie leading to him pleading with Tommy to take her off his hands was so incredibly heartwrenching to see. Both Pedro and Bella acted their socks off, the emotion displayed on screen felt incredibly authentic. Gabriel Luna was so incredible as Tommy as well

Menstrual cups came out in 1987. I've seen a ton of people be like " what is that". 😆 Yet another emotional episode. Joel's confession broke me. Seeing him so vulnerable and scared... 😭 And that conversation in the bedroom 💔

The indian woman is played by Elaine MIles, who also portrayed Marilyn Whirlwind in the TV show, Northern Exposure, where she was an absolute joy to watch. ☺ Getting older isn't fun, but right now it beats the only available alternative. 😛 Joel's not having a heart-attack, at least, not in the "cardiac arrest," meaning of the word. He's having debilitating anxiety attacks, that verge on panic. All of his time spent with Ellie has started to unlock fear and pain he's suppressed for 20 years. That is absolutely not healthy, and it rises up and overwhelms him, sometimes. Cleopatra supposedly had a cervical cap made of solid gold, which made it absolutely hypoallergenic. It's an old, old technology for reproductive medicine.

This is the most vulnerable we’ve seen from both Joel and Ellie yet. We know watching from Joel the desperation to close himself off to preserve whatever humanity he doesn’t want to lose yet and him breaking down in front of Tommy is indicative of how much he’s barely keeping it together. Ellie, on the other hand, is a whole different kettle of fish. This is where her abandonment issues begin to boil over the more she loses her innocence; between being orphaned by her parents, being pawned off by Marlene, losing Tess, Henry and Sam, now she has to watch her father figure pawn her off and abandon her too? This girl can’t catch a damn break; it breaks my heart when she repeatedly tells him “Don’t leave me alone”.

I imagine when Joel talks to Tommy about his dreams that it's most likely memories of Sarah that he relives; and in a world such as theirs even good dreams have become nightmares for Joel because when he wakes he's instantly reminded that Sarah isn't there and why, which speaks to his line " all I know is when I wake up... I've lost something." Life truly did stop for Joel about the same time his wrist watch stopped.😔

The Dina reference when Ellie said "What?" to the girl while eating in the cafeteria was a nice subtle touch.

All the awards...to all the cast, crew, team, craft services even (bet they needed lots of warm liquids on that shoot!) 😳

The funny/not funny thing about panic attacks, having had them myself, is that most people who have never experienced them have no clue how horrible or scary they are. They are quite like a heart attack in feeling for some and can be confused for one. Good on the show for showing it realistically and showing how much mental well-being can impact a person and their health.

They built this town in Canmore :) at the end of Main Street

I applaud all the changes they've made to make the story even more poignant and emotional; the way they're dealing with mental health feels so realistic. Also, that menstrual cup is an incredible gift.

It was nice to see Rutina Wesley of "True Blood" ( Tara Thornton ) and "The Walking Dead" ( Jocelyn, Michonne's friend ) as Maria in this episode. Joe's having panic attacks, brought on by beginning to care for Ellie and remembering the lose of Sarah.. Since the real life Jackson Hole, Wyoming, has become a tourist town, the Jackson in the series was constructed in Canmore, a small town in Alberta Canada.

10:29 This little easter egg character made me sooooo happy I literally jumped out of my seat the first time I watched this episode!!

Joel did the right thing in pulling the bat out. The only reason we shouldn't do it is, because in a hospital they can give you a blood transfusion to replace the bloodoss and close the wound to minimize the bloodloss. The chances for Joel to find a hospital with doctors, nurses and blood transfusion are slim. So if he bleeds now or later doesn't make a difference and movements with an object in a wound has the risks to do more damage.

You said you were not certain how this played out in teh game, so here's my thoughts (after playing the game several times). They're delving a lot deeper into Joel's mental state in this series (vs game Joel) and I really like the way they have done it. It's not ironic that Joel's "alpha male and protector" role is constantly challenged by what HE thinks are failures, when in fact, those "failures" were always outside of his control. Tommy getting arrested, Sarah getting injured in an unforeseeable accident, Sarah basically getting killed in his arms, at the hands of an armed man while Joel was unarmed, Tess getting beaten up while Joel was not around to protect her, Tess getting bitten while separated from him, Sam getting bitten while Joel was occupied protecting Ellie, Henry killing Sam, and ultimately himself, with Joel's gun which Henry grabbed before Joel could reach it. All of these "failures" were actually not solely his but put dents into his self worth as a protector, adding to his PTSD, further building his self doubt. In the game, Joel IS a broken and walled off, but it's more of an emotional block leaving behind a brutal man that is cold and calculated rather than full of self doubt. It's what makes his bonding to Ellie all the more poignant and effective as the his journey across the emotional landscape he has to travel in the game to finally get to accepting his bond with Ellie is a longer and harder. It's hard to visually represent that in a film or TV show, so introducing the hearing loss (something not in the game) PTSD and anxiety attacks, followed up by his conversation with the Tommy, the one person he truly trusts, accomplishes this. Have to give a big head nod to both Pascal and Bella for bring that to life on screen. As to removing a lot of the missions or encounters from TV version, in the game, those encounters while the core of the "gameplay" are not core to the story. They help the player to fully immerse in the game, and thus the story. Adding more of the encounters to the TV show would give the gamers a bit of added excitement , but that would not necessarily translate into immersion, story wise. They really do not add as much to the overall experience of "watching" as they do to "playing". It's the difference between first person playing immersion versus third person watching immersion.

I like how TV Joel references VG Joel during the second Tommy conversion. “5 years ago I would have destroyed this kid”. TV Joel was aged up from 52 to 56. Those 5 years can make a real difference lol.

The ending song is the same 80s “danger” song from the first episode.

18:35 This scene kills me every time. One of my favorite scenes in the game. Bella is doing amazing. As skeptical as I was about the cast, she absolutely nailed it. She plays my favorite character in computer games great. Every time she cries, it brings tears to my eyes!

Very good episode! They contrast the difference between the two brothers! One has been living a somewhat normal life while Joel has been going through hell and back! Joel was trying to break from Ellie because he thinks about his daughter that suffered and how he could not save her! Joel doesn't want to go through that type of pain again but I think he has no choice. Joel has a new child/daughter in his life!

I too had only heard of the “Diva cup” sometime in the last decade or so. So, I looked it up, (apparently other people had as well because some of the first Google results were articles specifically about that scene,) and what I found in Wikipedia blew my mind. From the “History” section on the Menstrual Cup page, “The first version of what we would now call a menstrual cup was a rubber sack attached to a rubber ring created by S.L. Hockert in 1867, which was patented in the United States.[43] An early version of a bullet-shaped menstrual cup was patented in 1932, by the midwifery group of McGlasson and Perkins.” I assumed it probably went way back, but I was a little surprised by those dates. Another ep of good acting and fantastic story 😊

Clarus: "if they're old enough to fuck around, they're old enough to find out" 😂🤣😂

I like that the infected and even random raider parties are basically environmental hazards. It isn't a grand battle to be engaged in, it is something to be avoided so you don't get caught out. The meat of teh game and the show is really the story of that relationship between Joel and Ellie. If the story wasn't tight and engaging in either medium we wouldn't care so much. Joel's panic attacks were so well done they made me cry all by themselves. The moment I saw him get the physical symptoms of them I was wrecked because we know Joel so well, the anxiety that is driving the panic is attacks is so apparent and Ellie doesn't have the background so I feel for her fear seeing him go through and not knowing what's up or how to help him. Them I am feeling scared for her. It also does a lot to inform what is coming. By the end of the game I was so in love with the characters that making sure they won every encounter was like taking care of them. By the end I just feel like a voice in Joel's head and we would do anything for this kid. great episode.

This reminds me of Bill & Frank, Bill tells Frank, " I ain't never been scared,...until I met you." Then in this episode,...the Indian Woman tells them something, and Elle says " you're not gonna scare us." she says ..." scared him." indicating Joel, who looks scared. We can see that he doesn't wanna admit that he has grown to love this girl as a daughter figure. And now it's " If anything happens to me,... she will suffer." When he was with Tess, he could afford to take foolish risks,.... now,... he can't.

I love the scene with the legend Graham Greene. Also, the Jackson scenes were filmed in Canmore!

5:35 it's interesting to me that the music in this scene matches the music of elderly Bill and Frank going about their day in the latter half of episode 3.

Menstrual cups have been around since ancient Egyptian times. Women used to use them for their periods in Cleopatra's time. They were also used by the Celts and other civilizations.

100% thought Clarus was going to say "if they're old enough to fuck around, they're old enough to find out."

Bella Ramsey is crushing it. Every time she sees Joel, and Tommy Hugging, you see her looking at them with such longing. It brings tears to my eyes,... she has been alone her entire life... and never once knew what true family was. Then she sees them and it's Like " fuck, I want that. How do I get that??"

I'm super late, but as a HUGE fan of the game (played multiple times, including grounded mode and have watched many others play too) and a big fan of the show, I love that you understand the reasoning behind the changes in terms of showing other stories like Bill and Frank and of not including more infected or human kills. I saw a decent amount of complaints online, and I think people tend to forget the real goal of the story and also don't realize it doesn't need to be a clone. I like to think of the show as an alternate dimension version of the same story

You are amazing. This episode is sublime. Love Pedro really love Pedro.

7:35 Depends on the animal too and what parts they got that they need removing and especially ones with glands that you need to avoid puncturing without skunking the area.

The old man at the beginning is the medicine man from Dances With Wolves.

hey Nerdy... I also had right knee pain, only going down the stairs or down hill. It was a tendon issue and there is a very major surgery you can get called a Tibia Tubricle Osteotomy, which has a grotesquely long recovery but yeah. It'll only get worse with age. Annnnnnnnnyway, another great reaction!

The song at the end was a cover of the Depeche Mode song used at the end of the first episode.

So appreciate that you guys get why Joel was upset with Tommy and had such conflicting feelings. No calls meant no calls from the beginning, probably long before Tommy and Maria even made out. It's been 3 1/2 months since the start and he's already been out of communication a month or two. So in 5-6 months Tommy dropped Joel, got married, and got her pregnant. And he's a guy that has been hopping from group to group looking to feel like a hero. Sure maybe he's changed now... but he also looked not super happy to find out he's a communist now so who knows.

"Last of Us" and "The Expanse" are some of the best examples of successful adaptations from one medium to another-the producers/showrunners understood what made the source so special and meaningful, and they held onto that while making the changes necessary for the new medium (i.e. television).

Nerdy's enthusiasm is the cutest thing ever istg! 🥰

Graham Greene played Marlon famous from Dances with Wolves and Elaine Miles played Florence famous for playing and Inuit tribeswoman Marilyn Whirlwing in the quirky Northern Exposure.

Menstrual cups were created around the same time that tampons were, in the 1930s. The DivaCup brand was established in 2003 so Maria giving Ellie one checks out on accuracy.

I had like the same reaction to the opening scene Nerdy! Like we're EVER going to forget that scene....holy shit! The Native American actors were the best, I love those actors! Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you guys, you look at least 20 yrs younger than me, I'm 58. Yes, after 30, the body starts to break down....sorry. It's part of life. I was a runner in my youth & I need both knees replaced. Of course, I'm overweight too, have had 4 kids & have become lazy but still. Take care of yourselves. Canada is so gorgeous! The dog scared the shit outta me lol I love the brothers so much! Joel was totally having panic attacks guys, similar symptoms. He has major PTSD & never really dealt with Sarah's death so.....yeah, there no fun. If Pedro does not at least be nominated for an Emmy, there is no justice in the world. That scene with the brothers talking & Pedro's crying, killed me! The Last of Us awards....perfect!!

13:20 ,2003 was when sarah died, it's 2023 when joel met up with ellie, so it's not 2003 anymore in the show it's 2023. Ep1 when they show boston it said 2023

I about died when Musical Theater Degree Guy started singing "Sal Tlay Ka Siti" from Book of Mormon! It was exactly what I did when I saw all of the pins, but none of the other reactors that I have watched picked up on it. Thank you for your sense of humor!

The old couple at the beginning of Episode 6: "There are firefly people?!" then they look at each and chuckle. Probably imagining people that have butts that light up!!!

Actually, the Jackson part was not filmed in Banff, but in Canmore

9:51 The Brothers Miller; I want a show with Joel & Tommy from Sarah's Murder until the beginning of the show. 14:12 Blink and you miss it moment . Kevin was only 3 when he died and it was only 2 days after Sarah's Murder .

In 1987, another latex rubber menstrual cup, The Keeper, was manufactured in the United States. This proved to be the first commercially viable menstrual cup and it is still available today.

Man's really said the memorial to Kevin and Sarah was the wifi password. 😭 I can't.

The song choice at the end is a cover of the same song they ended episode 1 with (sung by Craig Mazin's daughter, apparently). 80s means trouble!

In the game, its actually Fall. Also the Camp Fire scene was a deleted scene from the video game.

That lack of warning was adorable 😆

You're one of the few reactors that got it. Thank you. Subscribed.

Hi Nerdy and Clarus It's Kennie 🥰, So happy that Joel found his brother Tommy and Ellie and joel's Bond has gone stronger with emotional with tears , hopefully Joel is okay next episode !!!

14:15 Nerdy: Is that the wifi password? Sarah: 💀

14:07 clarus face lmao

The same sound design from when his daughter was shot happened when the dog came up. A+.

believe they missed out on a big line Ellie could've said... oh course it's a standard line thing like this scene generates, but it's generated 'because' it brings people into the show to make them even more invested... the line? "Joel, I need you" (with a few tears falling or streaming down cheeks, instead of hanging off eyelashes) -- good episode spoiler part: Ellie didn't need to say it in the game because of how the previous game scenes and of the inflection in the character's lines in this similar scene

@Nerdy Nigthly - "I take the cow farm over the sheep farm any day..." Well. If you ever want to get IMMEDIATELY identified as someone who had uncles, grandparents or cousins in a farm, but has NEVER actually WORKED on a farm himself... Just say something like that, guys 🤣🤣

They said it was filmed in Canmore, AB.

Pedro and Bella have been CRUSHING it, but Pedro took it to another level in this episode. The scene where Joel tells Tommy the truth!? Unbelievable. When Joel and Ellie are having it out? You can see his immediate change when she mentions Sarah. This is his Emmy submission for sure. Bella’s is coming up… 😎

Claurs reminds me of Pippi Longstocking. Oh, the Depeche Mode cover was sung by Craig Mazin's daughter/

I just turned 18 and this year is gonna be the biggest year of my life with music. Manifesting it into reality

I need to keep track of the names of the adaption team. They understand what works in each medium. I look forward to whats next.

The menstrual cup has been around since 1937 - But I also did not know about it until a few years back

I agree with you guys. 'Everything about this show is amazing.' Looking forward to more.

Diva cups first started being mass-produced in 2003!

I was wondering what took so long for u guys to upload! So glad u did ❤❤

My Uncle and my brother work in a construction company. I'm myself was a salesman for a wall paint manufacturer. So I've met and made some deals with many contractors. Yeah ... I don't love contractors.

25:00 of course Mormons would fortify Salt Lake City after the outbreak

The “grumpy old prick” sent me 😂

FYI Menstrual cups have been around since the 1930's.

Googled. The Diva cup came to mass-market in 2003.

There is a "Inconvenient Truth" Joke in the first episode, in a round about way. Thre's a guy in the first episode inside the QZ wearing an Al Gore for President t-shirt.

Weird to see Gabriel Luna/Tommy as someone else than Ghost Rider from Agents of SHIELD.

Is it betrayal if you tell them your going to betray them

Fun Sports Facts of the Day: Eli Manning was never drafted by The NY Giants. He was drafted 1st overall by LA/SD Chargers and traded to NY for Phillip Rivers and other draft picks*

There is an Inconvenient Truth reference. First episode, camera pans past a group of men. A couple are amputees and one wears a Gore/Lieberman shirt. If Gore had been elected would the earth have warmed as fast, etc... Not a joke but it's there. Also, as for seeing that view, is that the plain the tribe lives on in Prey?

cant wait to see the Giraffe scene. They gotta have the giraffe scene. and the "baby girl" one too.

10:29 *insert Leonardo DiCaprio pointing gif here*

Regarding the movie might scene. Can you imagine the instinctive panic the audience will have when they see a long shot of a new York city street? All that activity, all those people, all those possible clickers...

I 100% saw a guy reactor suggest it was some sort of specific peeing assistant device..... I was like, how do you know what that is but not what a menstrual cup is?

We appreciate your dedication and consistency. God bless you.

Yay ! I've been awaiting your reaction!!

Clarus "if they're old enough to fuck around--" Me "they're old enough to find out."

Guilty as charged. I had no idea what that was lol. 30+ year old man has no clue, internet goes boom.

Next week's title: Load from previous save point?

In the game, this part takes place some time in the fall!

Can I suggest Collagen supplements for the knees?

It seems like most of the reactors are too young to recognize Elaine Miles in the opening sequence. She played the wonderful character of Marilyn Whrilwind in Northern Exposure.

From one Musical Theatre major to another, I bring you an exact and accurate recreation of the dialogue between _Last of Us_ fans and the showrunners following this episode: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lu1y-1bMQR4.html