good omens finale theories are wild 

this was supposed to be posted like an hour ago but the new ofmd teaser dropped and i was unable to finish the thumbnail on time so i hope you all understand

i honestly dislike most theories because they take away from the scene. what happened...happened. it was in character for both characters (as stupid as it might be) and its beautiful writing.

Hold onto your hats I have the wildest theory of all: Sometimes characters in TV shows do things we don't like, just like people do in real life.

I don't know about anyone else, but Aziraphale being literally one of the only non-skinny characters who's allowed to just exist and enjoy eating without it being moralized makes that one person's insistence on him being this lazy guy who only acts selflessly for his own benefit and will not resist food under almost any circumstance insanely uncomfortable.

the season was basically about crowley and aziraphales relationship and also getting an understanding of aziraphales religious trauma. people who make up theories like “oh he was drugged” are completely ignoring all that

Fun fact, all of these theories are correct. There actually is a 7th episode, It’s really hard to find because Neil Gaiman hid it really well (because he is such an amazing writer that writes amazingly). Basically what happens is that Aziraphale drinks poison coffee which, in addition to The Metatron’s alterations to the book of life, induce him to lie. Simultaneously, in an alternate universe (unaffected by The Metatron’s finagling) Aziraphale and Crowley kiss for 15 minutes and then switch places.

the theories really irritate me because they both made the decisions that they had to make- aziraphale never prioritised crowley over doing good, we just ignored it previously. and crowley always prioritised aziraphale over everything. We've seen time and time again that Crowley could just leave, if Aziraphale went with him, and leave the earth to its fate, but Aziraphale never would leave because he still believes in the lie he's been fed by heaven, that they're doing good by god. There's no other way that conversation could have ended, even though it hurts.

Haven't watched the video yet but I'm so tired of these "theories" crafted specifically to shift blame, excuse any event or choice the theorist personally found reprehensible, and ultimately rob the characters of their agency in the story. Y'all need to allow yourselves to process the negative emotions you feel instead of trying to explain them away!

Weirdly, I didn't even consider Metatron was saying "I have also drank human drinks, I'm just like you, you can trust me!" But it makes perfect sense when you say it. I just thought it was Metatron being as literal and without nuance as the rest of the angels - he saw "give me coffee or give me death" and took it literally. He is offering Aziraphale coffee, to signify the alternative is death ("If you don't come we'll wipe you and Crowley from the Book of Life/smite you/make you Fall etc". Not like Metatron LITERALLY threatening Aziraphale with death, out loud. But he thinks humans are "so predictable", that giving coffee or giving death is something to be taken literally, so since Aziraphale is just across the road from the shop and is so human, he too must understand the implications Metatron is trying to make. Basically what I'm trying to say is Metatron is smart, but only in the same way Gabriel is smart. He's a conniving dick in love with his own sense of power. He thinks he's being clever when he really isn't. But Metatron is supposed to be higher than the archangels, who are thick as two short planks, so it makes sense he'd be a bit more conniving, so your theory about trying to seem more trustworthy "because I drink human drinks too, not like those other angels!" makes more sense

I think you're onto something about the Bentley just being kinda insensitive. I could be remembering wrong but in season 1 when they hit Anathema on her bike the Bentley starts playing Queen's Bicycle Race song, Like imagine what Anathema must've thought, these guys hit her on her bike then when they give her a lift home they play THAT 💀she probably thought they were mocking her lmao

I actually really like the idea that Aziraphale miracled "A Nightingale Sang" to play in the car, but I think it's probably something as simple as him being too bewildered and distraught to communicate properly when he had the chance, and he just wants to tell Crowley he loves him too before he goes.

I also think that people are hating on Aziraphale too much. I think people are forgetting that Aziraphale wasn't in heaven when they wanted to execute him. He also didn't see how they fired Gabriel. And Crowley never told him because they don't talk with each other about stuff that really matters. I like to think that if Aziraphale knew everything that Crowley knew about heaven and really saw how toxic they are then he would have decided differentley. (It's my only hope that let's me sleep at night...)

good omens fandom lives by the rule of "live laugh be delusional"

OMG THANK YOU!! The part where you explained why Zira left without taking anything from the bookshop made me so happy!! People are constantly hating on Zira and saying that he is selfish etc., but he´s literally putting his personal feelings aside to save the world!! Thats selfless as fuck!!

I personally think that a lot of these theories could be compelling to be written as fanfic, but I think that writing them into cannon would completely ruin any character development that has happened in the show. Also, thank you for mentioning that Crowley and Aziraphale are ace. I’m also ace and I personally don’t like that so many people erase that in order to write smut.

I've discussed azirapahel's character with a friend and we basically think that the coffee theory kinda dismisses azirapahel's development

To be fair, the Bently will play other music for Crowley but if he leaves any tapes or CDs in the vehicle for for a fortnight they turn into a Best of Queen. Gaiman has said Crowley listens to Velvet Underground quite a bit. Either the Bently chose that song or Crowley prepped that song to play after his Nina and Maggie talk.

i read the book of life theory and one part that stuck out to me was that the author used maggie and nina not immediately getting into a relationship as one of the pieces of evidence because it was wrong?? like ok seeing a classic romantic ending as the only possible satisfying conclusion to a subplot like this (regardless of either character's capacity for a relationship in their lives!) sounds like a YOU problem my guy

25:38 thanks for saying this, I’m ace and I find it kind of annoying how much of the fandom thinks of them as allosexual. Like, just because two people (or person shaped supernatural entities) are deeply in love doesn’t mean they wanna have sex.

I am SO GLAD that you tore into "The Magic Trick You Didn't See" as much as you did. I've been writing an entire response document, responding to literally every point, to it for maybe the past week, and it's 10k words long and I'm not even nearly done. SO MUCH of it is the author (and they are a published author, surprisingly, with how much they misunderstand character writing) just saying that things are "uncanny" or "wrong" because they either didn't like the scene, thought it was out of character (even though at multiple points they demonstrate how much they don't understand the characters at all) or they didn't like the character at all. They seem to particularly hate Maggie, for reasons that often come across as EXTREMELY ableist.

oh my god the book of life theory is the most ridiculous thing i’ve ever heard come out of this fandom. how the hell can you misunderstand the series to THAT EXTENT??? wow. thanks for the video!!

The only thing I thought about with more than two braincells was when Aziraphale said: "I forgive you" to Crowley. I don't think it was meant that way but I wondered if Aziraphale thought that Crowley tried to "tempt" him with the kiss in a last desperate attempt to get him to stay. So he misread the kiss as an demonic act rather than a declaration of love... Again, i don't actually think it was meant that way but it still makes more sense than the google document kashfbkadgvau (Also: Hey, I loved Sherlock Season 4 >:( )

The coffee theory (while compelling) completely ignores the fact that both characters want two different things. Zira wants to make heaven a better place for him and crowley but crowley wants to say fuck all and get zira to run off with him. Do they want to be together? Yes. But they have two different things that they want (if that makes since). Great video btw, can't wait to see what else you make :))

Losing my mind over the "magic trick theory" and how the writer just completely rewrote Aziraphale in their own head. Like I understand media being subjective but oof that was a hit and a miss.

I really think the person who created the Book of Life theory really missed a big point. Which is that Neil lost his friend and the 2nd author of the novel. Season 2 and probably 3 will always read a little differently because of Terry’s loss. While they might have had the basics of what future novels would have looked like and an ending in mind, that isn’t going to change the fact that Neil no longer has Terry’s voice writing half of it. You can hire others to help you bring a similar style but you’re never going to get it to be the same. I think Neil is doing a pretty great job considering these circumstances.

“That car is kind of a dick actually” 😂😂

I really hope none of the theories are true. If we're given a nice, neat answer in the next season, it would undo all the character growth we got in the finale. For the theories where Azi was threatened to go to Heaven, he just seemed far too genuine in his excitement. And he's a terrible liar.

"That car is a dick." The only theory I care about.

more good omens videos to feed the obsession woooo

I think it's likely all a lot simpler than theories allow for. I think so many of the theories are just people trying to manage their response to the last episode and tend to focus in tiny details rather than the larger characters that we've been shown.

I honestly just think aziraphale and crowley both have a shit ton of religous trauma, but since its slightly different kind of trauma with different people, they dont get how the other doesnt feel the same way about heaven like they do :)

Sometimes, it's a blessing to be autistic, so I don't start fantasizing too much about such theories. I don't even see the obvious hints at first sight and take things for what they are. So I don't get all the jokes and double meanings at first sight, but for example, the coffee theory was the absolutely last thing I would've thought about in that moment. For me, it was part of what the Metatron said about appearing in a more "human" way. He uses a full human body and brings a "gift". As much as creativity should be supported, but some fan theories are getting out of hand.

25:37 THNK YOU SO MUCH!!! as an ace i always find it kind of annoying when people constantly think aziracrow just constantly wants to screw each other

Not finished the video yet, just passed the coffee theory and I agree with you that the coffee was only a manipulative tactic played by Metatron. I also think he knew suggesting that Crowley could be an angel again would break Crowley and Aziraphale apart because he knew Crowley as an Angel and he knew he would not go for it. The Metatron is purposefully keeping them apart and he's ultimately the villain here. I wonder if he can still speak to God or if God has withdrawn from reality and the Metatron is only doing what he wants

A lot of these theories didn’t sit well with me because, as you pointed out, they take away from the brilliant writing of Neil Gaiman. I get people are trying to understand the finale in their own way, but a lot of the theories almost feel like, if they were real, were a cop out or a cheap trick that would totally take away from the angst and emotions both characters go through

Somehow when you said “Aziraphale chooses heaven over Crowley “that feels like a punch in the gut🥲

15:00 "no wonder he looked at crowley like that. my man was being held hostage-" LMFAO THAT HAD ME SCREAMING SD9FYDIUYFIUSAYDFIUYASDIUF

Just hearing a summary of these theories made my brain hurt

But the look that Metatron gave Crowley was even emphasized by the music in the background, I think it at least meant that he didn’t like our favourite demon

here's a cool thought I had: what would happen if Aziraphale drank holy water? Would it be like an energy drink for him? Would he briefly become more powerful? I think it'd be a really cool concept to work with.

listen, i get that people really want Aziraphale and Crowley to be their asexual representation, but idk where theyre getting the notion that these two hedonists who are absolutely in love with and participate in human culture wouldn't want to also explore physical/sexual pleasure with one another. the explanation is usually something to the tune of "theyre celestial beings, they cant experience sexual desire" and i feel like the people who say stuff like that have neither read the book nor watched the show. you know which celestial beings could be good ace representation? Gabriel and Beelzebub. I cant read anything inherently sexual about their relationship. they just seem like two creatures who happened to be pulled into each other's orbit and share a close romantic bond, but dont really have the desire to go any further than hand holding and hugging and cuddling.

Wooow that Metatron theory is a real humdinger. I have never heard a theory that just takes away ALL of the character agency during not only the events of the season but Aziraphale and Crowley's backstory too, while also calling Neil Gaiman a hack writer for not writing the show they wanted to see.

While I'm open to theories, I do feel they miss the point and also kneecaps the ability for characters to make poor yet believable choices. Aziraphale would absolutely want to have the power to change how Heaven works, he wants to make Heaven worthy of Crowley and for humanity.

i'm reading the magic trick theory, and it really feels like the whole "season 4's bad writing was purposeful, it was pointing to dream theory/fantasy theory/episode 4 theory" thing from sherlock again, except season 2 of good omens wasn't even poorly written lmao

I love people debunking theories, especially if they are super passionate about the source material, so this should be fun. Your Metatron impression was so fun! I never would have thought that anyone would call the Bentley a d!ck but... you're not erong, it really is insensitive XD "My man is being held hostage against his will!" 😂 That last theory sounds wild. I do not believe it at all but I will have to check out if only to see how a person could write about a theory for 30+ pages I really enjoy your videos, you are a good narrator!

I think Crowley will still be hanging out at the bookshop in season 3 because he doesn't know where else to go & he or "Inspector Constable " will start reading Aziraphale's diaries & discover something. Not sure what.

I've been waiting to see someone make this exact video. I keep seeing people make complex theories to try to explain actions and choices that already make sense. Aziraphale going to heaven is not at all as bad a choice as would warrant a plot-altering conspiracy. I sort of think people are so invested in the ship that anything counter to it seems wrong because it requires a deeper reading of the plot/characters. They couldn't have run off to space like Crowley wanted. I mean so much of the show is about humanity and earth, how they provide perspective and make both the main characters better. Of course Crowly made the offer to go to Alpha Centauri, he loves space, his purpose as an angel was creating nebulas. Of course Azi rejected that offer, he loves Earth, he is the principality tasked with the protection of Earth. All of these theories are only necessary if you're denying the fact that these characters have legitimate worthwhile goals and motives besides smooching each other. Just cool down, obviously they're in love, but this is still a show about things like morality and preventing the end of the world and celestial war, there needs to be some room for that in the plot. and those things will cause emotional conflict because that's part of what makes a good story.

The people who came up with coffee theory have never experienced religious trauma.

Timestamps!! 00:00 - Intro 03:11 - 7th Episode 06:24 - Coffee Theory 10:30 - Lie Theory 13:43 - Switch Theory 15:23 - Magic Trick You Didn't See or Book of Life Theory 25:19 - 25:51 : 30 seconds of achillean ace rights!!! 😊 31:06 - Outro

About the magic trick theory: the thing is that as far as we know, the book of life doesnt work like that. Idk how it is for other religions, but i grew up in one who did actually believe in the book of life, like its a part of the religion. Now the way it works in the religion, is that its god's notebook per say. He writes in it names of humans that he'll place in heaven when times come, as to not forget i suppose(?), he can remove your name from the book and considering said religion believes in annihilationism against humans, its kinda like metaphorically erasing you from existence when times come. Now obviously in the show it is way different, first off because the book includes angels and demons and second off, because the book isnt about who will be saved (obviously since demons are in it). But im bringing this up to show that if the show has not established that the book works in a way where "everyobody's lives is being written and controlled by the book" and if a real life religion also does not believe in that concept. Then you actually need proof that the book is supposed to work like that for the theory itself to be considered possible. You cant just say "the book works like that because i said so" 😭

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion or not but i prefer s2 more than 1 because it focus more on Aziraphale and Crowley, and they get deeper into their relationship. :) also great video!

it’s honestly wild to me how many people want these theories to be true. like, why do y’all hate character complexity and growth?? lmao also people acting like aziraphale was totally in the wrong for not choosing crowley but like… crowley was ready to ditch earth altogether and leave them to their fate just to be with aziraphale. twice. that’s not a good thing y’all, aziraphale has always wanted to protect people from the literal beginning. if aziraphale is wrong to ask crowley to return to heaven and be something other than what he is (which isn’t what he meant but is certainly what crowley thought he meant), then crowley is just as wrong to ask aziraphale to abandon his principles to run away. that’s not who aziraphale is at heart. no matter how much he loves crowley, he loves the world just as much and if he has the chance to at least TRY to save it, of course he has to take it. also! nina’s abusive relationship is a clear parallel to aziraphale’s relationship with heaven. WE can all see it’s fucked, and on some level aziraphale knows it too, but he just can’t escape the cycle of going back and wanting them to love him when in reality they don’t even like him. it’s not easy for people to leave abusive relationships like that. just… all these theories are essentially Get Out Of Jail Free cards and are so boring. they’re bad storytelling, full stop. #LetAziraphaleBeMessy2k23

can we PLEASE talk about how the book of life theory is just a reskin of the John lock conspiracy (TJLC) for Sherlock or the Supernatural finale conspiracy 😭😭😭

Good Omens fandom when characters are flawed and do things that are upsetting 😱😱😱

The only thing I find really odd is season 2 is Aziraphale's reaction, more specifically lack of it when Crowley said he is living in Bentley.

its so strange to me that there are a lot of angst and heartbreaking fanfictions, fan comics, videos and art about literally any OTP known to humanity. but when this angst is canon and happens in the actual show, suddenly people got mad? i dunno, i love this finale cause its really in character for aziraphale to not be ready for relationships with crowley and he's not ready to separate himself from heaven, his home. i really like this cause its like a representation of people in abusive relationship with their parents or partners, when they trying to justify the abuse and saying "i could change them". aziraphale literally said that. so it would be such a waste if all this was just cause of coffee or another stupid theory. people need to appreciate not only characters' growth, but the moment there characters are not ready to grow for justified reasons!

Crowley kissed Aziraphel and the angel assumed the spawn of hell must be "tempting" him, Aziraphel gets coffee he enjoys from a heaven sent and assumed that it must be an act of kindness... The way Aziraphel perceives Crowley and heaven+god could not be clearer, and ppl are still denying it?

the coffee theory is so crazy bc like. they had the right idea, almonds symbolising divine favour and approval is super relevant, and the coffee is a symbol for something impacting aziraphales judgment, that something being: divine favour and approval (this was not the only reason aziraphale did what he did)

My new favorite theory is the Crowley Master Spy theory- based on when he wears the turtleneck. It’s absurd, intriguing and plausible.

I love/hate the theories- on one hand they are so creative (i don't think i could have come up with any of them-) and in the one case really well written( like i really liked their writing even if i disagreed) - and while i think some of them make good points, and highlight important bits- i think for the most part they are all blowing things out of proportion- and believe me it took me a while to understand the ending, I rewatched that so many times. Went through all stages of grief even. And all in all, we will just have to wait and see, and I trust Neil to make Season 3 (Amazon not so much, they need to pay people) and for him to deliver a spatacular 3rd season with Crowley and Aziraphale ending up together in south Downs Cottage. And with that I am content. No one likes waiting but i will happily wait for Good Omens- been a fan for 10 years I can wait longer!

29:15 it all clicked in my silly little sleep-deprived brain. I don't know how I didn't realise before. Of course Aziraphale went back to heaven after they tried to murder him and Crowley, his whole thing is forgiveness. And he's very good at it

i remember that after killing eve finale people also thought that there hidden episode that there was even extra episode listed on imdb and rotten tomatoes and articles written, but nothing happened

i thought it is also notable, cyanide doesn’t smell like almond syrup, it smells like bitter almond, wich, imo, is a huge difference

I'm not a fan of the Magic Trick You Didn't see essay because it's way too incoherent and hard to understand. Either way I think reading into the show too deeply and overanalysing is a waste of time. I'm sure there is a few secrets that Neil might have left in the show for us to spot but stuff like eccles cakes is too much. It was clear what Azi's intentions were: he's been wanting to be a good angel all his life, and this is his opportunity to be a good angel. His character is complex and what he did in the end was completely in-character. Even if he wanted to spend his life with Crowley more than anything. That's why it's sad and he's a tragic character.

4:20 Cumberbatch played an ACE-ARO Sherlock and I stand by that

We’re all so delusional but I enjoy it so much, at least we’re delulu together

The magic trick/book of life theory always read to me as pretentious. I couldn't get through it because the first few paragraphs felt like filler, just taking forever to get to the main thesis XD

Omg the document. Un-fucking-hinged. Edit: I mean no hate for it. But. 😮

When you were doing the opening gag I thought in my head "Oh it's a bit like you're describing the Sherlock fandom circa s4 dropping haha" So I was pretty caught of gaurd when you talked about it too 😅

The season is the second act in a rom-com, or the middle section in a Jane Austin novel. I liked them better in the book, but we get what we get!

The part kills me, where aziraphael gave away the only weapon in the Garden of Eden apparently to not let 2 of its inhabitants get „uncomfy“😂 like tf. Yeah. I wouldn’t describe it as making sure the won’t get „uncomfy“. I would flipping describe it as saving their lifes. Which worked greatly. I don’t wanna Front this person, but I have the feeling this is a person with a childish mindset. Like I thought like that when I was like 13 maybe. Uncomfy. I can’t believe it

The Coffee Theory people are delulu

5:55 Not only that God likes sevens, but also Jim made a number 7 in morse code with a freakin lamp :)

I’m obsessed with how you talk about good omens. Thank you for speaking for the fandom. Wish I could send this to Neil G.

i agree with you on just taking things at face value and not diving too deep unless it's something that really stands out. and even then i have to remind myself that tv shows are still forms of art, in many ways, so things like the tartan hills or jim turning the light on and off and saying '7' in morse code by doing so, are just funny references to other medias or things in the show itself

Great video! I still have thoughts about the Coffee Theory as a maybe, because of the Metatron asking about Nina's shop name, that people are predictable, how he said "I've ingested things in my time, you know..." (okay buddy, what?), but I'm also very in favour, and think I'd like it more if Aziraphale just... made his own decisions without any influence. Manipulation certainly, but Aziraphale's always been naive and wants to see good in Heaven, and every being in general actually, whether they be Angels or Demons. He's just TOO GOOD for his own good, and would be 100% in-character for him to leave, to keep Earth safe, and to keep himself and Crowley safe so they needn't have to be looking over their shoulders. The lie theory... yeeeeeah, I don't know why people think that's a good theory. Aziraphale is an awful liar, and the whole with him talking to Metatron and Crowley just wouldn't make sense and would just feel really disjointed, because WE as the audience would see something... unless it was all a huge cover up and that Neil had us see something that wasn't really there, but... I doubt that. While I can see Aziraphale working for Heaven if Crowley was threatened, the whole 'come to heaven' stuff wouldn't really make sense to me. Even if Crowley was threatened and had to come to Heaven or be erased from the Book of Life.... why would Metatron just allow Crowley to remain on earth then if he wanted Crowley out of the picture? The theory is messy. Switch theory? That's a no from me. We don't need another s1 subplot thing, they already did that, it would be unoriginal. No thanks. As for the document theory... WHAT THE FUCK? P.S THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE 1941 SCENE! I never saw that line as sexual, but everyone is shitting themselves over it that it was? So I'm like "did this just fly right over my head?", cos I genuinely thought Aziraphale meant it just to be nice. He'd just realized his fucking feelings for Crowley, what, you think he immediately just wants to suck a D? No, that would be completely out of character for him (i.e see the 1960s scene of them in the car with the Holy Water... Aziraphale's not fucking ready). I'm not saying I wouldn't approve of them making out heavily in s3, but good lord people, let the guy get there first at his own pace!

13:13 Amazing Freddie Mercury impression

Thanks for the breakdown. I'm not into fan theories either, since they so rarely play out the way people think they will when new seasons/movies/etc. come out. After processing for a while what I'm trying to lean on is that in so many romance stories (books and movies), the third act begins with separation. The characters have to be given some big problem to work through so that when they get together at the end it means more. From what I've read Mr. Gaiman really wants a third season also, so here's hoping.

The magic trick theory makes me long for the times of crude google doc presentations that were poular on tumblr around the 1st half of 2010s. Apart from the fact that it's obviously very biased and inaccurate, the way its written really annoys me. The OP is acting very snarky and cocksure, bending the material to fit the theory, while sucking up to Neil Gaiman every paragraph. It seems sort of passive aggressive.

There was always something that didn't sit right with me about the book of life theory and I couldn't put my finger on it. And then I heard your speed analysis and I realised "Oh it was all of it". Also excellent video 11/10

its so difficult for people to understand that Aziraphale is sacrificing his commodities on Earth cause he is determined to fix Heaven for him and Crowley to finally be able to be together without having to worry about their relationship being treason? He has been dragged around by Heaven´s agenda during 6000 years, and he finally is presented with a chance to do something good for Earth, for himself, for Crowley, and for their relationship... why would he loose that chance? He is acting out of courage, determination, hope and love. He want to do what he feels is the best course of action for everyone he loves. He is an angel after all! he is also gullible, Metatron definitely has his own plans for Aziraphale ;_;

The part about the 'Book of Life being rewritten' were the writer literally states that Aziraphale is selfish annoys me so much like even if we just go off season two episode one alone: Aziraphale literally helps Gabriel someone who has been horrible to him and even tried to kill him because Aziraphale cant bring himself to leave Gabriel to whatever 'terrible thing' that might happened to him. He cant turn away someone in need of help. Like yes Aziraphale is capable of selfish actions but it doesnt make him a selfish person. Like I understand completely some poeple are upset with Aziraphale choosing leave because we just want them to be happy but it so sad to see poeple try to make out that Aziraphale is a horrible person instead of just being someone who has good intentions but has his flaws.

That book of life theory trying to "justify bad writing" by finding hidden meaning in everything is an insane way to cope not liking the story, do like most fans do and just make a fanfic. Clearly they have the energy and ideas for it.

The "give me coffee" bit is just a nod to the audience to distrust the Metatron 😅

Though these theories don't work for me, I still love seeing people making theories about GO. They can always inspired me somehow. Like here is my little theory of what Metatron thinking about after reading these theories: "They are too powerful that even a half miracle they made can fool all the angels and demons. Still can't believe that Aziraphale is actually that powerful and useful. I should separate them and bring Aziraphale with me (I don't like the demon. But If I don't tell Aziraphale that the demon can come with us, Aziraphale may reject me) so my lovely plan (Give human death) can goes well :D ."

I just finished this show, did not know people were wilin out with theories like this but I really like your takes on all of it, when something is good you'll always have some crazy "fans" who want to dissect everything in a nitpicky fashion. I thought the show was really smart with how they poked fun at Christianity and religion in general! The best part I think about this show are that, even though Az and Crowley aren't human, they are as human as the rest of us.. Also your eyes are so cool! Totally unique color cheers!

I'm SO relieved that somebody else feels like all these theories are reminiscent of tjlc -- I was very much embroiled in Sherlock tumblr in 2017, and all of this stuff about coffee theory feels so familiar to me 😅 personally i don't believe in coffee theory bc i think the ending was set up from S2E1

"BECAUSE GOD LIKES THE NUMBER SEVEN" i'm cackling thats so funny

I love reading theories because of how much fun they are to think about, but I've never used them as explanations for happenings within a series. I came across the Magic Trick Theory right after finishing S2 and I feel like it's the opposite of the "yes and" type approach. Theories are amazing for fanfic purposes, to connect with others and have fun - but when you explain away the minutia of every detail as a "gotcha" like... it's ok if there's things you didn't like. I wasn't the biggest fan of the zombies because it felt out of place to me - but that just means that creative choice wasn't my cup of tea. It'd be a miracle for every viewer to like every single part of the season. Honestly the thing that I couldn't get over in the theory was the interpretation of the BTS video and what Michael and David say in it - because like, what do you mean those things didn't happen? They're literally how the season goes; the bigger things are _a literal Archangel having his memory wiped_ and the history is Aziraphale tracing Gabriel's steps. The relationship pivots are their conversation about loneliness / going along as best they can, and the literal opening scene that shows Aziraphale _remembers Crowley from before his fall_ - because that's why he jumps at the chance to make Crowley an angel again, because _he's never seen Crowley as visibly happy since and he just wants him to be happy._ I will say I think that the author is funny though. "jesus christ Neil how many fanfic tropes are you stuffing into this clown car" is so accurate to me because I did partially feel like I was watching a real life fanfic on first watch - but in an entirely positive way, like it was an adaptation of a fandom holy grail fic. Also, "we love and cherish one (1) lazy bitch" is fantastically quotable (disagree with the entire Aziraphale interpretation though; my guy actively defies Heaven all the time for the sake of good).

the main reason that the season ended the way it did was because the show runners knew we would lose our minds over it and would jump on season 3 like monkeys. no other reason, get over it

Not the sherlock slander 😭😭😭 (jk season 4 was embarrassingly bad)

I love the Vibe of Your videos! I Just Feed so Comfy Watching You rambling about a series we’re all hyper fixated about rn (and whoa I love your style :0 ) Thanks for putting in the effort of making these videos whilst staying respectful bc many people can’t seem to accept or at least tolerate theories or opinions others have and it’s just really refreshing to see someone discuss everything on a chill base!

I don't agree with the writer of the doc, but has Neil Gaiman answered why their first meeting was changed yet? I get that GO1 was more tied to the book, but why retcon their meeting in the first moment of GO2? I assume that perhaps memories of all fallen angels were wiped from those in heaven to avoid anyone else turning out of a previous friendship with the fallen(Aziraphale+Crowley being an obvious example). So they knew angels fell, they knew who they were, but no memories of interacting with them before the fall. Still I wondered if he's given his own reason.

I think we as fans also need to consider that Gaiman might not be entirely truthful 100% of the time either. We ask A LOT of questions, some of which might give away his plans for the future, if we should ever get a season three. Like for instance, no one can convince me that Crowley isn’t Lucifer. He literally signs for the anti christ with an L. Tf is the purpose of that otherwise? 😂

yeah exactly crowley runs; aziraphale needs help- crowley helps him the end

These theories were my 5 stages of grief 😭

I love this video. As a Sherlockian (old-school, not BBC, per se) of many decades, I am used to theories. Some of them are interesting, some are silly. Some of them do have a "secret fourth Sherlock episode" vibe (hilariously dealt with in the "Sherlock is Garbage" video, which I highly recommend). It was called queerbaiting at the time too. (I personally never particularly wanted them to get together, but that is neither here nor there; I know it was deeply important to some fans and I get that.) Yes, "to read a fanfiction about every single one of them" would be fun--although I'm pretty satisfied by reading the metas themselves. Tumblr is very interesting right now. Thank you for pointing out (I've had to do this several times) that, although you can poison yourself by taking too much laudanum (which is what Elspeth plans to do), it's a drug that is used as a drug to get high and that is why it gets Crowley high. I previously read the "magic trick" theory. It was interesting and a fun little exercise, but if it turned out to be true, it would be a pretty unsatisfying narrative anyway, although it might be great in something that could get through it more quickly. (Maybe that could explain what happened with _Sleepy Hollow--_ still bitter.) I would read a fanfic of it and I might check out one of the author's books. I enjoy some of the "Aziraphale lied" theories, and I like the theory that Aziraphale and Crowley both have reasons and they aren't that incompatible with what we've seen of them for two seasons. ;) That's probably my favorite. This is what they did and they have to work and learn their way out of it. Love your take about the Bentley and the nightingale. I think the Bentley means well. Crowley also could have set up for the song to play when he was planning to take Aziraphale out to the Ritz and forgotten to take it off in his despair.

i read a few paragraphs of the magic trick theory but i never knew it got That bad its actually hilarious. all the fan theories make me so sad though, as a lover of angst i enjoyed the finale so much and thought it was really well written and these theories take away from that

I agree with you on the coffee theory, it is a manipulation tactic. I also believe that it is a metaphor as when the metatron orders the coffee he orders it with a 'dash' of almond syrup which is a sweetener but when he gives it to aziraphale he exaggerates how much there is saying a 'hefty jig' of almond syrup, saying it's sweeter than it is. Like the job of supreme arch angel.

you're one of my favorite people on the whole fandom. you're smart, funny and charismatic. waiting for more ❤