Quick Correction: 1:34 We mislabeled the phone being shown as Pixel 8 Pro. The correct phone is the Pixel 8. We're working on making the correction as soon as possible. Sorry about that!
why at 6:23 you say "Good job Apple", if LTPO displays were made mass-produced by Samsung efforts, not Apple. And Google already had an LTPO panel in the older Pixel 7 Pro and Pixel 6 Pro. That's weird to say, it looks like you don't know your subject.
As a teacher, Jamboard was awesome and I used it for so many things, and rarely with hardware built with it in mind. I think this one needs to be called out more. If a school DOES spend a bunch of money on tech to use a program like Jamboard, and then Jamboard vanishes, it's going to make it a LOT harder for that school to justify further tech spending in the future. These kinds of things can set a school's tech back a decade if they put the brakes on investing after a bad experience, and school managers are notoriously risk averse.
Programming, as yearly subscription fees.... Companies that can satisfy the incoming profit, wins... Having educational discounts is part of a growing model...??? .......... Much Love
Yeah. Most people do change phones after 3-4 years but a major portion of population doesn't so it would be really good if they provided longer support
But is it a real deal breaker? My 10 year old HTC still runs RU-vid and Discord with Android 6. Many apps still run on Android 6. An Android phone having 5 years of software support will still be supported by apps even 5 years from now.
@@_AG_63 The thing is, the old phone does not just go straight to the bin for me. It always end up with my relatives. So, the phone would be in use for 6+ years easily. That is why my whole family is on iPhones, as there was no alternative.
That last segment is super critical. RU-vid Music is STILL missing stuff from Google Play Music that they promised, including syncing a local library through an app (and not 1 folder at a time through the browser) and cross playlists/radios between local library stuff and streamed stuff.
I absolutely appreciate the commentary on Google's erosion of trust. I am a pretty reliable google user and have been for about 20 years now, but even I am getting pretty frustrated with them abandoning core functions.
@@maximusg88 and speaking of Google home, what hell has happened there? It used to be the best in the field for accuracy and now I have to shout at them like 8 times.
@@maximusg88 Yeah, I'm still mad about that, I loved being able to upload my own library of songs not available on ANY streaming services, or songs that I wanted to be sure to be able to listen to no matter the current rights situation for that song.
At this time it is starting to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. No one will use the new feature/service because of fear it will be abandoned when they have set their routines up around it. leading to: Not enough is using it, so Google closes it again. However, I have heard, and this might just be gossip. But that they might close down services, even if they make money on it. And that just sux. I know there are "big brain" money people that can put things into a spreadsheet, and show it is still a bad buisness, but it the same people that think it is better to have half the warehouse empty because "storage is expensive", not taking into account, that you already have that storage, and can't rent it out or sell it. Sometimes we need to just to be sensible amd smart about things. If it makes you money, it is better than not making money, and a happy loyal customer is worth a lot, a lot more than you can ever hope to "save" or "optimize" by closing down the things that doesn't make "enough" money.
I'm still bitter over Inbox getting killed for no good reason. Now we just get a cheaper, uglier and less functional yet more cluttered version of it in the form of "small Gmail improvements." I don't want to use Gmail, I wanted to keep using Inbox, dammit. It probably wouldn't hurt as much if Google didn't let you know the taste of good, truly innovative emailing before taking it away. Google giveth and Google taketh away.
Regarding your take on google shutting down services left and right I completely agree, it's been so bad for so long and I've been so disillusioned by all google services that whenever I find a useful product that they serve, the first thing I do is to try to find a competing similar/identical service that preferably runs on my own hardware and use that one instead. It's ridiculous that it's come to that, but I've had so many "killer" features that I loved from google getting killed that I just don't want to deal with them anymore.
@@chimp7 They aren't saying you can run the service locally, just that they can use hardware they already own to use an equivalent service. For example, PocketCasts has been my preferred Podcast app or Kindle/Amazon instead of Google Books.
I hope that 7 years of software and easy battery swaps become industry standard. The EU is demanding changes for the latter so it probably will become standard. It would be amazing to keep the same phone for 6-ish years with a battery swap every 2-3 years.
I really hope we see a return of replaceable batteries before I need a new phone (Currently have the Pixel 6a). I would LOOOOOOOOOOVE to keep my phone as long as possible (realistically, as long as security updates are available to fix vulnerabilites) instead of having to replace the whole damn phone every time the battery life eventually becomes horrifically bad from being old)
To be fair even I wouldn't keep a phone for 7 years although thats because I refuse to spend more than $500 on a phone, and I usually only spend ~$300 I basically wait until there is an exeptional "budget" phone-and I say "budget" because $350 phones are if you don't game on your phone are pretty darn good nowerdays and real budget phones where you start to really massively comprimise features are like sub $200-then buy that. However what would be nice is to be able to sell the phone for a reasonable price to someone who was going to get an actual budget phone after a 2 - 4 years.
i hope the companies start flexing with supported years. that would be great. a new phone every 7 years is really enough, especially with that little change nowadays.
OMG, preach!! I am starting get nervous on the Google ship actually. I invested thousands of dollars over the last 3 years buying digital movies and TV shows on the Google Play store (formerly Movies and TV, etc etc). My catalog of purchased movies is over 700 and I'm beginning to get nervous as Google last month sent an email saying their going to shutdown Google TV app on mobile in favor of it's app for TV and to just buy movies from RU-vid on mobile. Yet...as of 10/6 the phone app is still up?? It's not bad enough that you can't even organize your purchased content into genres or anything that looks nice. Nope, just a random catalog of when it was purchased in sequence. So yeah, keep up the bs support for your products Google and you'll see me carrying an Apple in my pocket in the near future. I hate the iPhone for it's lackluster user customizibility and boringness, however their offerings are getting better and us android guys are starting to notice.
From what I've heard (can't confirm, but sounds plausible) that a lot of promotions internally at Google are based on product launches. So you've got these people building and launching projects to get that promotion and then abandon it to move onto the next product launch.
I suspect Microsoft to work in a similar way. They love launching new software products but they hate giving meaningful long-term support. And sometimes that support comes in releasing a completely re-worked version of the product or releasing a new product that kinda does the same things as the old one. And that's my main gripe with MS software. They often have some actually pretty nice ideas or kinda robust software, but they often only go like 90% of the way and never deliver the missing 10% which ultimately makes the product as a whole useless.
Maybe the more interesting part, if the SW is supported for 7 years, the HW should be too. So we should have first party replacement components (screen, battery, charge port, etc) available. It's not unrealistic to see these in use from 7 years now on (I see plenty of phones from 2018 in the friends and family circle, today's phones are way more powerful plus progress has slowed noticeably), so it's a great initiative. Samsung seems to be holding their side of 3-4 year support, so I don1t see why Google couldn't with custom HW.
They mentioned it in the Keynote that they have partnered with iFixit with parts and they also made the phones easier to be fixed, which is absolutely a great thing. Wonder why nearly every techTuber didn't mention this at all?
@@feline-fox Sounds great. I don't care much about the Pixel phones due to limited availability, but maybe Google can influence other manufacturers. I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung would announce something similar next year plus up their SW support to 5 OS updates and 6 years of security patches. Then the competition has to follow. Also there is that potential EU regulation for replaceable batteries from 2027, maybe by then other parts will be easy to replace too.
As an audio engineer who works with various sound restoration tools and has dabbled with the AI tools out there, the audio demo with the baby sounded wayyyyyy too good to be true.
It sounded like the RTX voice effect. But that needed a 10xx+ series GPU to run nicely and it was taxing on the hardware. Let's see if this on-device magic really works out.
@@notmyname42 Well the difference likely is that the RTX processing is done in real time, whereas the Pixel will probably have it done offline already. That, or because the device doesn't need to focus on as many intensive tasks, it can dedicate more cycles.
With Apples worth they can afford this type of tech, and even crazier tech all working as marketed. Only of they really wanted tho. But seems they enjoy being behind always. Unless their plan is to have a bunch of tech like this and then patent it so other phone companies gotta pay them for using to keep up.
This isn't really a trust me bro situation. Google advertises 7 years of updates as major selling point of the Pixel 8 series so if they don't deliver on that: Hello global class action law suit!
Where Google will pay a massive fine of 0.0000001% their annual income, the lawyers will get 500.000.000$ and people will receive a 0.3$ voucher valid for 2 weeks.
The updates won't be good tho. The 50MP mode is for 90% implemented in the A14 build voor de Pixel 7 Series and 8 non Pro. They deliberately chose to ignore their last gen devices. The brighter screen is something that can be fixed on the 7 series. They showed they don't care. It's just getting OS upgrades and now meaningful features.
That would require defining whether a product works without updates or not, and I bet the lawyer fees are not cheap on that. Also lol on global class action lawsuit. You need to be US residents for one thing.
I do miss the weird features on phones. My old S8+ had a pulse oxometer built in, because why not? Actually was kind of useful during COVID to be able to check my blood oxygen levels with my phone. The only thing I saw in this video that was interesting at all was the two way translation feature. Would be nice to see it come to the Z Fold 5. Anyway, I don't trust Google as far as I could through a multi-billion dollar company. If they start a new service, I just assume it won't last and don't even bother looking into it. I don't see these phones actually getting seven years of updates. They'll cancel the program with a couple months warning around year three or four.
Their deal with watch bundle was making me consider going from P6 to p8p. But the P6 (For me not sure for others) has been perfect for me. I didn't get overheating issues. I did get some mobile data issues that were resolved that one time they broke things. That's about it. I have pretty good battery life cause I use dim screen 100% of the time(I don't like bright screens). I kinda feel like I can take the P6 till end of support and be fine the entire time. The cameras already satisfying for me as well. Only thing I kinda dislike is the semi unreliable fingerprint sensor. If I'm in sunlight it's useless lol
The Pixel 6 was released 2 years ago and you're already looking at changing phones. Why do you care if Google supports the Pixel 8 for 7 years when you're clearly not going to keep it for anywhere near that long?
You do have to remember some features from past Pixel releases came to the general Android audience before so with that in mind, I don't know if the AI processing on the 8 is really going to block non Pixel users from using these features. I'm making the jump from P6Pro to P8Pro and I already KNOW I'm going to use the "Summarize" article feature ALOT. I don't know how much they realize that will DRASTICALLY reduce the amount of horrible mobile ads I have to scroll by on horribly designed pages and also drastically cut down on having the skin fluff pieces or AI generated articles for the CORE meat of the page. And the cameras this gen are ridiculous and I LOVE the photos from my P6Pro.
@@graptik8 But... but... new features! AI! OTHER buzz words! But yeah, you're right. After thinking about it for a while, I have other Android phones I can swap my SIM card into rhat I need to love.
Google didn't even fix connectivity issues and software bugs with the Pixel 6 and Pixel 7 to THIS DAY. It's infuriating to be a Pixel user because there's so much potential there but Google just always moves on by adding new features without fixing old bugs. How can we trust their promise this time if they can't even provide proper updates over two years?
I keep seeing these comments but I feel it's largely either non-pixel users repeating what they hear online, or early Pixel 6 adopters who just repeat the same thing for years. I've been using the Pixel 7 Pro on Android 14 and I've had a grand total of 1 issue, and that is that my phone gets a bit hot when I'm running more intense applications. I mean I early adopted Android 14 and didn't have a single bug on the beta version lol
This. Absolutely this. Despite being some people unaffected a lot of us are. They chose to ignore it. The High Brightness Mode is another thing. I've seen the code and comments from Google staff themselves. It can be fixed on the 7 Series. They are choosing not to. The 50MP and Pro mode? 90% there on the A14 build for the 7 series. Just locked out artificially
This guy right here gets it. I don't trust Google Smartphones. They can give me 20 years software support. The hardware is the problem. And I only get 2 years warranty on the hardware. We all know that Pixel Smartphones don't hold for a long time.
The point on following through is a big one. I'm going to be the optimist and hope they actually do 7 years of support. However, if they decide to not follow through, at least the Pixel phones are rootable so the developer community will likely lead off where Google drops the ball. That being said though, the partnership with iFixit is also fantastic and they're still supporting even very old Pixels so I'm approaching with cautious optimism.
I'd say they'd do a max of 5 years and with the launch of the new Pixel in that's 5th year (Pixel 13 ?) They'd announce that the Pixels would here on have only 5 years of OS upgrades and this applies to all phones from & since the Pixel 8
Why do people even by their phones at this point. I'm going to see support for a 6-7 year old phone, not a promise that in 6-7 years, today's phone will finally be nearing end of service. I don't trust them to do it, until after they've done it.
Is it weird that I like how upgrades have become more incremental? I have always had a 2-3 year upgrade cycle in the past, but I might just hang on to my Pixel 6 Pro for a while. I really don't see much of a compelling reason to upgrade since it already has 5 years of support. The only reason I moved on from my Pixel 2 was because it ran out of security updates. It still ran fine...I'd have liked to hang onto it for a while longer.
I've got a Pixel 5, and I'll be hanging onto it for another cycle by the look of things. Unless I catastrophically break my phone and I need a new one, these new features are neat but not something worth upgrading over a perfectly functional phone
@@Sochsun I actually had a Pixel 5 for a year, but it had a fatal flaw for me...the speaker phone sucked. Something like that would be the only thing that makes me move on quickly Edit: speakerphone sucked for other people I was calling. It was muffled and nobody knew what I was saying.
Since we hit the end of moore's law, technology has been evolving slower and slower. However new innovations such as "AI" and special purpose chips and architectures may curb that trend
The trust thing is so hard with Google... I do rely on a lot of their products, but there's a part of me that's always waiting for them to suddenly announce "sorry not sorry Gmail is cancelled". I know Gmail is probably safe... but is anything REALLY safe when they've already shut down popular services? Hopefully the 7 years of updates really is them turning a new leaf... In terms of the phone itself, sounds like it's a nice update... but I do miss when new phones were wildly better and exciting.
@@SkepticalJaffa yeah… I worry about stuff like that. That’s particularly frustrating because you can’t just replace an email that easily - things get tied to it, people have THAT address… I have my accounts tied to non-Google addresses as well so I have backups, but smaller/older services also fail…
If the say comes where they drop Gmail, I am done with them. probably can't give up on YT, but back to no premium at least. I agree that gmail is probably safe, but man that would be a selfgoal to close that down.
11:03 im not sure Linus meant it as a joke or he was serious but we can actually do it even right now. I have a command set in my google home as "Im heading out" which turns off my air purifier, fans bedroom lights and turns on the porch lights and finally powers down the small PC server
Out side of Googles core services like, Search Engine, Gmail and RU-vid. You can't trust google to support anything new before they close it down in a year or two 😂
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M the video is literally about pixels, and the core software that runs pixels is android aka one of Google's main projects, both android and pixel phones have made it this far.
11:35 - Hitting the nail on the head here. I have been an android user since the Motorola Droid. Haven't owned an Apple product ever. Killing off so many services and being generally less trustworthy in regard to data protection led me to give Apple a shot with the new iPhone. I might hate it, but 8 years ago I would never have considered leaving Google.
Same here, been and Android user since the Moto Droid and a Nexus/Pixel die hard. Who'd have thought all it took was a USB C iPhone (and Google killing more products than I can even remember) to make the switch.
As an ex android user and an apple user since 5 years now, I think you’ll like an iPhone. Unless you’re very demanding and want to be able to customise every single thing. Personally I’m happy with my iPhone though I also had some issues. Moving files to/from iPhone to PC being the biggest one. On android I could move basically anything very easily. With iPhone… not so much. Photos and videos can be moved easily though. If Windows doesn’t get quirky… I had to change my iPhone to send HEIC instead of JPG to Windows or the file transfer would always crash whenever trying to copy (large) video recordings. Then had to install CopyTrans HEIC to easily convert them back. But that appears to be a Windows issue in my case.
@@someryebread I'd try an iPhone if switching between both was easy and reliable. I did some research awhile back and there was something weird about how iMessage works that could cause message loss. My phone is also my business phone, so having to fuck with any of that and potentially lose calls/texts would be horrific.
My equivalent whole home audio system, was to buy a bunch of Apple AirPort Express off ebay, and then have them optical out into various Hi-Fi systems in each room. It really warmed my heart to see Linus do similarly with Sonos. Isn’t it so true to form, that the Google/Sonos is objectively superior in features and high res capabilities, while the Airport Express running Airplay 2 is capped out at CD quality, but somehow managed to deliver a consistent experience. Yet several years after the product was discontinued they’re still giving it updates. I never would have associated high end pricing with consistent reliable mediocre performance. Nor would I have thought the newer higher res formats and standards to lose product support before something chugging along at CD speed. I want it all, and expect tech to lead future forward, but maybe it’s my expectations of high res and cutting edge that should be tempered. Maybe they were a little more insightful to see that the music archives are already standardized around CD, which even now we see reflected in the music streaming services. Apple is egregiously shameful in their cherry picked marketing they use to pump up their keynotes. But at least in regard to audio quality, they haven’t overpromised, or under delivered. Maybe we should turn our eye for false marketing to the new standards that get touted at trade show booths. Nobody is going to say their new technology has poor adoption, or is years away from mattering. Perhaps the potential abilities give us false expectations, that then make Apple look slow and mediocre. Maybe Android users are living in a flawless future, but we know there hiccups across the board for all contenders. How can we make a scorecard to gauge these companies on their feature sets, both in terms of capabilities and their actual delivery. While also not making misleading future predictions from past behaviors. I wonder how just the framing of these companies in simple terms would alleviate nerd rage and tribalistic fandom. Imagine if electronics repair was treated like car repair, where every repair job was reported to a large regulatory body that statistically ranks cars on reliability and know issues. Sounds like a natural next step for right to repair. Hope the Sonos gets the love it needs soon.
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On the topic of Google killing things: I work in a k-12 schools IT department, we just finalized plans to decommission and replace all chrome OS machines in favor of windows, also shifting away from dependence on some Google services. I will continue watching and taking part in what the education segment is doing, the kids we only had on ChromeOS devices will probably stay with chromeos and it'll be interesting to see market trends as they become the ones buying their own tech.
Currently rocking a Pixel 4a and although it's still working great, I'll probably replace it in Fall 2024 since it just stopped being officially supported. I would love to see them come back to the small form factor, this coupled with 7 years of support would make it a no-brainer for me. All the other bells and whistle doesn't really sway me
If you're in the US you can get a $200 trade-in for your 4a on the purchase of a new 8. Coupled with the free Pro earbuds it's a pretty nice package. Source: I pre-ordered yesterday and will be trading in my 4a.
A request to LTT, since non of the other tech reviews online can or is doing it, could you do a Pixel 6, 7 and 8 Pro comparison on key metrics such as battery life, overheating, and most importantly 5G signal reception capabilities, no one seems to be concerned about a phone's ability to get reception???? but more concerned about camera, because, you can really count on the camera in case of an emergency to call 911. It's like doing a car review, and never talking about the engine, or an EV and not mentioning the battery reliability or technology.
Well said and 100% agree. Used Google Photos when it was unlimited only to pay for expanded storage later on. Feels more like a bait and switch. I miss the old days of Google.
I still have the unlimited photos feature on my Pixel4a, at least that thing is specified on "Account Storage", I think I got the phone at the beginning of May 2021
but Google had promised Unlimited Photos and Videos backup (I think for Pixel 5 series) and it is still going. My friend uses S23U, shares the files to his Pixel just to get the backup lol. So google does keep it's promise regarding the phones' softwrae features.
I do that too, upload all my photos and videos from my dashcam and GoPro to my pixel 3xl via FTP over wifi for unlimited high quality uploads. I've bitten the bullet and got the 100gb storage for my pixel 6 phone though as realtime backup is important and the 4k videos just look much better that way at full res.
No, the interface is worse, there are ads now, no custom playback speed (i usually listen at 2.6x) and the sleep timer menu is also worse, it's not "just migrated"
@@godminnette2 Google. Google makes me say what the fuck more than any other tech brand/vendor. For stupid little stuff like that, someone randomly decides What feature to kill today? It's like a daily lottery with those assholes.
The temperature sensor is neat but I would've much preferred a headphone jack. This is why I unfortunately had to go with the Zenfone 10 despite the much smaller support lifetime.
Oooh dang, if that temp sensor actually works well, I could see a lot of use for that! I use an IR temp meter in the kitchen all the time to make sure my pots and pans are either hot enough or not too hot to damage themselves, checking the temperature of my water radiators which only have a dumb style thermostat on them, etc. I could also see uses for it under the hood of my car, or even just checking what kind of temps the top of the dash reaches on sunny days.
For me as a petrolhead it is what literally sold the Pixel 8 Pro to me. I can use it to quickly measure the tyre temperatures of my car between autocross runs, without the need to grab an additional tool in my box. To measure the temperature of engine components (I used it to determine if my radiator fans should be kicking on or not). And so many other things I can check "is it hot?" without actually touching them, and then having an actual value. With 3D printing it's valuable to know if that place in the car or in the sun reaches too high of a temperature to use PLA or not. I just hope they'll overlap the point that is measured with some camera feed at some point, like how standalone IR temperature sensors got a laser pointer so you know what exactly (hot) spot you're measuring.
@@alejandromorazan3420 You mean like an imaging infrared sensor, along the lines of FLIR? They are actually getting a lot more accessible, you can get a Vevor SC240M that has a 240x180 resolution and a 20 Hz refresh rate for around 250€. Marco Reps channel has a video up on the device, with a teardown etc.
Just get an infiray phone or Doogee s98 pro. Both have infiray P2 Pro thermal immage sensor with 2x the resolution than flir have. And it is 😍 AMAZING! having one spot sensor is really nothing to be happy about since it is easy to get it wrong or not seeing the hot spot right next to the small spot. A thermal imager sensor gives you a new eye into a hidden world. Can find overloaded circuits in fuse boxes in cars and homes and so much more. I've been using my Doogee S98 Pro for 1.5 year's now and i love it, not a single problem and all stable. But I didn't find the Infiray OEM phone at the time and would probably buy that one instead since this one is a heavy large rugged phone 😅 ip69+ the highest waterproofing rating for any product
My Google Assistant seems to struggle with understanding me unless I put on a stereotypical US accent, and all I speaking is English with an Aussie accent. The Google Assistant also now won't make reminders for me, even though the settings have been updated. Google really can't get things right...unless it's how they can shove ads in your face
We have had a possibility to "Photoshop" the pictures we take on mobile devices for some time. I understand people want to look the best on their Instagram selfies etc., but having these function and easy ability to "edit" the pictures not just in enhancing contrast, brightness, etc., but actually drag & dropping parts of the image, resizing etc. - I believe this will bring on more deepfakes, distrust of pictures, and further detachment from reality. I wish people would not use it, but they will. It feels a bit like the beginning of an episode of Black Mirror when we produce the memories that do not actually exist.
Erosion of trust is an understatement. At this point, anything Google produces can’t be relied upon long term; they’ve killed too many services and products over the years.
I've got to say, much like Linus said in his need a new phone video, phones are powerful enough now to not slow down for a while... it was my oneplus 6 from 2018 with an 845 that made me first think this is all the performance I need... all phones since then have been perfectly snappy and capable of lasting several year that same one plus was loaned to a friend last year who found it perfect and loved it enough to keep it for 8 months until her upgrade rather than upgrading early.
I loved my Pixel 3a, and I'd LOVE to get another pixel and hope for the same magic... but that "Google Problem" portion of your video hit the nail on the head and makes me super hesitant to get things from Google anymore... wish I could like double like a specific portion of video lol
I used Google Podcast everyday! I was super sad when I heard it was closing I thought it was so dumb because YT Music feels so bloated as is. Not everything has to be like Spotify but hey if that saves a buck sure... Good point on the Apple Podcast, at 1st I wasn't too upset but now i'm just dumbfounded apple is doing it right imo to just keep it simple and separate.
The best take feature, where you could change individual face timelines was available in BlackBerry OS phones. I missed that feature so much, and I'm glad to finally see it come back.
Technicians use thermal cameras to find abnormally hot BBQ bearings on agricultural machines before season starts to replace them. That would be nice feature to have on a phone.
Honestly what hurt me the most (been using Pixel since the very first one, then 2XL and Now 5) was Google killing the photos benefits, with 8 Pro they now encourage you to shoot massive videos then uploading them to the cloud for AI improvement and I can't help but wonder... its not clear if that is going to take out space from Google drive too or not. I wish the benefit of uploading as much photos as you want returned or even offer you a special deal with google one, they don't give you 6 months or a year off and that would be such a nice addon.
After I saw the video from your crew, I might think about upgrading. I don't need to though. My pixel 3 is still going strong, aside from being stuck on 12. It'd be nice to have those new features but I mostly use my phone for music/podcasts, reading comics, calls/text, and the frequent Google search.
Bro, you have a Pixel. Get a custom ROM. Custom third party ROM support has always been one of the biggest advantages of Pixels and Google's older phone ventures like the Nexus series.
BEST FEATURE IS: having Google Assistant answer unknown numbers for me and transcribing realtime what the caller is saying real time. and, having known spam numbers automatically dropped. I NEVER RECEIVE SPAM CALLS ANYMORE!!!! it's amazing! THIS SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE FEATURE MENTIONED BY EVERYONE! but, it doesn't come turned on by default. i f*cking love my pixel 7. it's amazing. best phone i've ever had.i don't have one complaint even about it.
I really liked the last point. Apple, for all its sins, is boring and iterative, not a truly revolutionary company anymore (if it ever really was) - but it’s broadly rock solid reliable. Their services endure, their product support is amazingly good, and frankly it always brings what people wants and needs to their products/services and when it does they tend to just work. I mean I met a guy yesterday who still has his iPhone 7 from 2016, which still gets security updates and is only two OS versions behind. It’s amazing to think this 7 year old phone still pretty much does everything my 2 year old iPhone does.
@@disco.lemonade I suppose that depends on your definition of revolutionary. Is it coming up with a unique concept or product or service entirely on your own or combining a load of existing ideas plus a few news ones to realise the full potential of all those things. Like the iPhone - not the first smart phone but the first one to come out that really made sense.
@@disco.lemonade not saying I know really. My quip about Apple was more did they invent something unique with the iPhone or just look around and see what works best and put it together in a way that has defined the most important consumer product of the past 20 years? And if so was that truly revolutionary or innovative?
@@joyunbounded9010 I don't think most people would have a hard time saying 2007 iPhone was revolutionary, as it completely changed the game in so many levels. Innovation well... there's some degree of innovation in most tech products nowadays, some higher than others.
Fairphone is even better here: they promise *8 years* of software support with at least 5 Android version updates planned! Hyped to see you holding the FP5 here!
Actually, I really doubt anyone will enjoy using a Pixel 8 or Fairphone 5 in only six years time. I don't think Android has matured enough quite yet to comfortably run on hardware that will be that old. But I also think we are getting close to that point.
Given the miserly progress of phone hardware in the last few years, I don't think that will be a problem. I reckon this might be why now is when they promise more support, because they don't expect massive gains over that time that make the work impossible
I believe if you buy top of the range pixel in 2023 it will still be usable in 5-6 years. It will be ready to be replaced by that time though for sure.
@@Gunny-rt3lb what? performance has been tripled in last 4 years. wake up. sd 8 gen 2 can run switch games at full speed. pixel 8 will fall on its face doing that. its already behind.
@@rafalskorupski Thats true. Theyre probably banking on the fact hardly anyones gonna hold on to their phones more than 5 years to actually keep them honest about the 7 year promise
Great points at the end! I loved the simplicity of Google domains, it made my admin panel a One-Stop shop for me. My mom has her domain registered with Google domains... How much was it costing them to maintain? Super annoying
Exactly what I thought I was like “even if I case this thing and add a screen protector will it even last 5?” 😂 my Dad used the second iPhone then the 5s, then the X and is now using a 15 Pro, and even the iPhone X runs alright with a few bugs, can Google compare? Let’s see
@@4070super You really using Iphone for example of long lasting? They have horrible repair, to the point you as user can't even do it yourself. Google is also working together with iFixit for increased repair-ability.
@@rndrx70 because I use my smartphone as a webcam for video calls in my home office everyday given its much better quality than any laptop camera and having that function directly in the OS is a good thing
Thank you for the appeal to Google. They need to realize that they can be as profitable as Apple, if they just give a toss about long term customer experience.
I cannot believe they missed out the fact you can repair your phone now thanks to them working with ifixit. Linus has been open about how important right to repair is and hey even on his most recent video asking ppl to pick a phone for him he mentions he would like a repairable phone. Instead half the video wasn't even talking about pixel but googles lack of following through (which I did agree with).
Michael Fisher did an interview with Google's pixel division head and asked the question of reliability and things like that and he said that at least on the hardware side they were strongly committed and that the 7 years and the fact that they're on their 7th generation of phone really shows their hardware commitment and their commitment to the pixel line, even if they may be more erratic in other areas
That last segment on Google‘s problems with having tenacity in regards to new products, was a perfect summation of why I’m afraid to move to android from iPhone. I love google’s, transparency, and customization on their platform, but I can’t trust anything they produce.
I just pre-ordered the Pixel 8 Pro mainly because my Pixel 4 is dinged up and cracked here and there. Google is offering a $125 trade-in so it was a nobrainer. Apart from that, I would have just kept this phone for 1-2 years more as I have absolutely zero issues with it, runs perfectly smooth. Not sure where all this negativity is coming from, IMHO every phone can be defective. Apple has its fair share of issues (overheating, dropped calls, crappy mic/speaker performance...etc) with certain models, it unfortunately happens and you can't predict it. This year's Pro models seem to have significant overheating issues.
Honestly if Google has improved their battery life/charging speed on what they had last year then it could easily be the best phone in my opinion. But for that reason I haven't ordered it yet and will wait till we can see if it's improved when it comes out.
@@micesss they increased the charging speed from 23w to 30w, that is honestly laughable in 2023. my two year old xiaomi 11t pro ($800 at launch) offers 120w and while I'm certain that most people don't need to charge *that* fast, it still feels like a slap in the face considering we're talking about google's 2023 flagship that'll cost upwards of $1000. the least they could do is offer 45w (same speed as the galaxy s23+ and ultra, another phone generation that's almost a year old now) or even 60w wired, but with horrendous charging speeds like that it seems google phones are out of the question for me, again. edit: regarding the "increased" battery size: the pixel 7 pro features a 5000mah battery, the 8 pro features a 5050mah battery. idk about you but imo a mere 1% increase doesn't even warrant advertising said increase.
@@micesss yeah, by not much but it really comes down to how well that new chip will perform. Looking forward to the usual battery comparison videos to see how well it stacks up compared to the alternatives.
I still won't forgive them for what they did to Stadia. It was my first introduction to cloud gaming, and I adored it. I thought surely Google wouldn't kill it when their playerbase was spending several hundreds to $1000+ on games and hardware, but I was wrong. Thankfully I got refunded all I spent, but I was still heartbroken. All of Google's "promises" meant nothing. Even if they give 7 years of updates, you'd be lucky to have your phone's hardware last half as long.
I appreciate the content and agree with the point about Google and killing useful products. I would say that I didn't appreciate Linus calling someone out o "Trust Me Bro." Especially when you brought up Sonos and didn't comment at all about their problems with bricking older tech. I do agree that Google needs to fix their stuff but I feel like this 15+ minute video had room for more balance.
I was really impressed by Google promising this length of time for software upgrades and support; I mean, the knowledge that my iPhone will continue to get major software updates for years is the primary reason that I have stuck with Apple over the years, even though I really love some of the Android phones I’ve tried out. That said, I agree 100% that while the promise is nice, Google has not had the track record of keeping such promises like Apple has. I’m intrigued by the Pixel 8 (I have a Pixel 7 as a secondary device/camera and I love it), and I hope that Google keeps their word and supports this device for years to come for those who buy it. But personally I’m going to probably stick with Apple a little longer until I know this promise is a guarantee.
Nice take. And the reason I stick with Apple too. The fact Linus made a video talking about ‘hoping they keep their promise’ is concerning. It doesn’t give me any faith they will support it, nor move to a long term support model for their entire range unlike Apple. Just like you I’m sticking with Apple because I want that peace of mind and knowledge that I’ll get 5 years of updates meaning I’m kept secure for longer and don’t need to worry about upgrading my phone. Especially as all phones are getting crazily expensive.
I really think Google would follow through the 7 years OS update because it will be beneficial for them. Longer phone support means longer Google user, which translates to more profit for them as an advertisement company. This is why they also advertise their "repairable" phone in the event. I'm not saying that what they're doing is not good, but unlike Apple which relies for hardware sales, they are the company which can easily follow through this promise.
It's beneficial for them now as they want to sell you a phone, but once they have your money they will send this to the Google graveyard like they did with countless other products and services. If they cared about keeping people as Google users then they wouldn't have killed Pixel Pass after taking peoples money. Apple already supports most of it's devices for at least 5 years, they have a proven track record of doing this while Google have a proven track record of launching products and services that later get killed.
@@xNul Looking at Google's website they say they're "committing" to providing 7 years of updates, commitments are usually not legally binding and shouldn't be confused with contracts or guarantees. Essentially a commitment to do something boils down to "trust me bro" and when it comes to Google I absolutely don't. I'm fairly confident there will be small print somewhere that covers Google's ass when they send this to the graveyard.
As a long term google user, I rocked the G1, Nexus 1-6, pixel 1 and 3. With all the hardware issues that came with them. Google burned me too many times after Play music I switched to iOS. While prefer android, and my iPhone doesn't do things I with it did, I can't trust Google. If they make good, maybe I switch back.
Linus is the original "trust me bro" with the backpack "trust me bro" warranty, which they eventually had to walk back and provide a REAL warranty for the absurd price.
That "real" warranty can be easily ignored.... He never walked back trust me bro ... He's always leaned into it... And his support of his products has always been top notch
Everyone misses the point on that, nothing actually changed on the process or really even legal liability side. A "REAL" warranty is only as good as the follow through, which... was the point.
@@jesusbarrera6916 No, a REAL warranty has so many "out clauses" that you generally don't have a leg to stand on in a lawsuit. And where you would have a leg to stand on would generally be true whether or not you have some webpage outlining the details. I think it better to have that page than not have that page, but the impact is minimal.
I don't understand why Google will start a project; bring it to market and after a few years of development with thousands of users just take a axe to it and kill it off. Following that basically tell that users platform to take a hike and find another way. I am surprised they have kept google fiber this long.
Apple's long support for phones is what has kept me buying their stuff. But I won't trust Google to do the same until they deliver See you in 2030 when I will have to replace my iphone 16 or 17
