Das war die 145 in Jena, Gosses Danke an Carsten unseren Fahrlehrer :-) Ich hoffe nun weiss jeder warum ein Fahrschulwagen unentbehrlich ist bei den Altbauwagen.
They were East German and the steering wheel thing is for shunts (big resistors) to step the power up and down. After 1966, they were imported from Cxecoslovakia but were all essentially 1930s technology. No thyristors or computer a.c. management systems then.
Well that's an interesting tram the lever is used like a manual gearbox and the steering wheel is for speed selection quite simple engineering really 👍
@@benkda01 Er wurde nach Libereć verkauft. Dort wurde er im ortsansässigen Museum zum historischen Linienwagen zurückgekauft. Alle Bemühungen eines Vereins dies zu verhindern (weil er der letzte seiner Art war) schlugen fehl. Der Verkauf kam damals völlig überraschend! Ich selber war bei der letzten Rangierfahrt mit Tränen in den Augen dabei. Klingt komisch, war aber so. Denn ich habe noch auf ihm meine Fahrschulausbildung genossen.
It was very interesting! May I as a transport fan ask You some questions. Why do you release a brake AFTER starting a tram, after switching a controller into a traction position? For example, it can be seen at 10:32. I am very interested in this type of trams. In old Russian trams produced at the same epoch, there was a pneumatic brake. Also the type of controller is surprising. I have seen such type of controller on railway diesel locomotives and some old electric suburban trains. Is it durable to use it in a city traffic? I think it is very hard to switch it into a zero position if an emergency stop is required. And - the last question? Am I correct that this tram does not have automatic doors?
By releasing the handbrake after taking power you ensure that the tram doesn’t jolt forward. The resistance mode for the first contact is usually a bit too strong for a smooth departure so by releasing the handbrake you can control the acceleration. The electrical part of the controller is probably located underneath the panel on the left. At least in the old Swedish tram’s (that I’m driving) the wheel is placed lower and a bit more ergonomic. From full power to full brake takes one and a half rotations on the wheel but can be done in like half a second
@@ludvigherneklint1625 Thank you very much for your answer! It is a very strange design solution. Why is the first controller position so strong and could not be made to be less intensive? (It is a question to designers and engineers, not to a driver.) What is the difference between these positions? And how does the motor control system work? Is there a system that automatically excludes resistors from motors circuit with speed increment and suchwise keeps a constant current in motors? If so, why is it impossible to tune the regulator to decrease the current?
@@user-zw6st2hj9d With a higher resistance you could technically get a smoother departure, but you would have to notch up a lot more often. The controllers usually have four main areas. 0, where power is cut. Series, and parallell for accelleration. And a brake mode where the motors are short circuited to act as generators and slow the tram down. In all three modes you use resistors to control the current. I don't know if this one is equipped with an assisted controller or not. If it is, then it should have some sort of relay to notch up. Otherwise the driver does it mechanically.
Das ist die Handbremse. Im Stand zieht er die Handbremse und setzt dann das Handrad von Bremsstufe auf Null. Als Westler finde ich das auch etwas verblüffend. Auf Klassenfahrt in Berlin, etwa 1981, habe ich diese Hebelbremse sogar nicht nur als Feststellbremse, sondern als Fahrbremse erlebt.
I've never seen a controller like that, but I can see after watching that that indicator points to a neutral no power point and turning the whee anti clock gives braking effort of varying degrees. Above the neutral point is acceleration, simples!.
It's rheostat controller. 6 O'clock - neutral as you said. 6 to 9 is decreasing in series connection of motors, 9 O'clock is direct series. 9 to 12 is decreasing in parallel and 12 is direct parallel connection. Electric breaking(6 to 0 O'clock) does the same thing, but no change in connection type. Each position ccw decreases resistance in closed circuit, driver have to spin it gradually as speed decreases in order to maintain same braking force.
ich hab das video einfach so in den vorschlägen entdeckt und angeclickt weil ich gesehn hab das die in jena fahren (meine hood) und hab danach erst gesehen das das video fast 300k aufrufe hat, jena war vor 8 jahren echt anders als jetzt
Here’s a man who doesn’t waste energy. He spends a fair deal of time coasting. And here is a simple question: What is the long black lever on the right?
Interesting video! I'm a bit surprised that driver doesn't stop on every tram stop. I'm from Croatia. In our capital Zagreb public transportation is also organized much around trams. But it's regular procedure that driver has to stop on every tram stop even if there's no passengers waiting. Is that some kind of non-regular or test drive on this video?
If i were the guy whose controlling the tram i would know cuz i can see everything but no,what comes up in my mind is that wheel is an accelerator,but tf i know,i dont even know whats under that
@@Torsten691 Aha! Genau das hab ich mich auch schon gefragt. Einen Gotha-Wagen hätte ich auch gerne mal gefahren. Ich kenne nur noch die Duewag GT8er, aber das ist hier drüben auch schon 10 Jahre vorbei.
So what I'm concerning: is that turning-wheel like throttle really a safe design? After the drivers finished his daily jobs, he has to drive his own car back home, but he will MISTAKENLY/UNCONCIOUSLY turn to the left suddenly at any moment to stop his car immediately.
@@eMMjunaYschion It seems that deep thinking and/or humorous doesn't work for someone who's not coming to discuss with the question but just coming to prove that he is cleverer than others.
Well let us discuss the question then: I drive trains for a living. One of them is also operated by a wheel. I've never tried to slow down my car with the steering wheel on my way home. So there you have it: It is an absolutely safe design. Your initial post was not a discussion starter and its neither deep thinking or humorous. The words "mistakenly" and "unconsciously" in that context are such an effective killer for a proper discussion. While nobody is free from any mistakes, a professional does not do such things mistakenly or unconsciously and can easily differentiate between car and train or tram.
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Leider wussten sie das nicht in Jena und der schöne Wagen ist nun weg.
@@Torsten691 ach, ich hoffe, man lässt sie nicht vergammeln. Wäre echt schade drum. Ich kenne diese Art von Bahnen noch aus Berlin und sie fahren noch in Woltersdorf.
По сути дела, этот вагон - ровестник круглых "ЭРок", постройки 1950-х годов, и "ЭРки" тоже первые в 1950-х годах были построены. Но какой тихий! В плане того, что не слышно тарахтения воздушного компрессора. По воспоминаниям очевидцев, когда "Gotta" только стали появляться в СССР, на системах с метровой колеёй, то пассажиры, если позволяло время, пропускали старые шумные трамваи с тарахтящим воздушным компрессором, и дожидались "Готту".
Если серьёзно, то это штурвал контроллера - многопозиционного кулачкового переключателя цепей управления. В старых (начало-середина 20 века) трамваях был не штурвал, а рукоятка, из-за которой тумбу контроллера называли ещё "кофемолкой". А где-то есть видео, снятое в 90-е, так там показана кабина нового на тот момент электропоезда то ли ЭД4, то ли другого, и для переключения позиций был установлен настоящий руль от "Девятки".
Там ещё один непонятный непосвящённым момент - при остановке вагоновожатый протягивает рычаг справа от себя. Логика подсказывает, что это стояночный тормоз, проще говоря, как "ручник" на ватомобиле. Но отпускает он его, когда вагон уже пошёл.
smart & advanced technology "a steering wheel" on "a tram" with both hands occupied to "drive straight" the driver will be able to actuate the brake 1) pushing with the buttocks on the seat 2) honk the horn ...by farting...
