Lieutenant Gothmog, second in command to Sauron (behind the Witch King) leads his Orc armies to end the age of men... Battles- Osgiliath Minas Tirith Pelennor Fields w/ Ride of the Rohirrim #gothmog
@@brajenfoto Like how? Explain to me. Cause if you mean in strength then your right cause they made him OP as hell for some reason. The rage beyond that guy is unreal and matched by few.
One of, if not the all-time best cavalry charge scene in cinematic history, the Ride of the Rohirrim. They say the ground shook when the (non-CGI) horsemen rode in that battle scene.
This movie will be Timeless because the makeup work that went into making people/actors look like real orcs instead of overused CGI. A Timeless Classic!
Well yah u can clearly see that they look real when I was a kid I was scared of the urki because of how real they were compared to the hobbits lol smooth in scared not scary at all
These ones looked so gross and their faces were all different and unique as well as realistic it looked as though Orca were actually there and it wasn’t people in suits.
@@brandonbosworth1829 I was horrified of Azog as a kid just because of how big and intimidating he was on screen. It genuinely felt that he could kill bilbo or one of the dwarves in an instant. The regular hobbit orcs weren't that frightening though
Fun fact, the guy who played Gothmog, Lawrence Makoare, also played Lurtz the Urukhai captain in The Fellowship of the Ring. Which means he’s 0-2 against Viggo Mortensen.
Gothmog got where he was because while he obviously had been crippled in battle, he was also smart and ruthless. Brainless soldiers are a do me a dozen - especially in Sauron’s army. But to use stealth and catch your enemy unawares until too late takes tactical planning and awareness. Gothmog was an excellent commander.
Ride now!! RIDE NOW!! RIDE FOR RUIN! AAND THE WOOORLDS EEEEENDDIIIIIIIIING!! DEATH!!!!!! DEEEATH!!! DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA - FORTH EORLONGAS!!!!"... Now that is one BAD-ASS of a King! Lost his son and legacy to the sorcery of Saruman and his conjurings, and almost lost his kingdom to it as well. Was nearly defeated and slaughtered at Helms Deep, yet rode to the rescue at the hour of greatest need, to a completely besieged and nearly falling Minas Tirith. Theoden bróke the massive ranks of orc-legions, even took on the mighty Haradrim, héad on! It was the Witch-king of Angmar himself that had to take him down. Theoden-King was mocked by a defeated Saruman as a 'lesser son of greater Sires', yet he will go down in history as one of thé greatest Kings of all times!
3:52 that scene shows orcs are completly misunderstood, they aren' t just only evil, agressive creatures but they also symphatetic, kind and very helpful for the others, like the orc trying to help commander :D
The thing is, Tolkien has told us that orcs are born evil BUT he also said they aren't irredeemable. Which means they are born evil and aggressive but they can become decent people if not used by a dark lord.
As a disabled person suffering with Chronic illness (im in pain all the time) this orc somehow makes me feel we can aspire to high places and even be more courageous than those healthier than us
Being in pain all the time creates strength of will, if it doesn’t break you it will absolutely make you stronger. You are probably mentally stronger than most to go through that every day and not give up. that’s an amazing thing
You might really like to read about the former psychiater Milton Erickson then. He was a relatively unknown, but incredibly influential person even though he got crippled very early in life
You are correct. Even the once mighty STAR WARS is failing, the hobbit films werent even just ok, they werent even on the scale compared to this awesome films.
@@YourOldUncleNoongah people are dissing the Hobbits but after the Lotr u can't talk abt good movies and leave the hobbits out. They are still great in their own way
My favorite line from Gothmog is when he orders his minion to catapult all the severed heads into Minas Tirith. "Fear! The city is rank with it! Let us ease their pain. Release the prisoners!"
I've always appreciated how the movies made the orcs feel like a genuine army like Rohan and Gondor. Like, with leaders, ranks, and such. Idk, it makes them feel like less of just one hive mind unit like in the books, and more like a bunch of characters. I just think that's neat.
Yeah, the worldbuilding is 2nd to none. All the details bring it to life. When I think about how we could have had that level of love and care in the Hobbit franchise before they axed Guillermo... I still get angry about it. The preproduction they had planned was every bit as extensive and passionate as LOTR.
@@lumburgapalooza Yeah, while there's a fair amount of stuff that I quite like in the Hobbit movies, they lack that certain organic feeling and meticulousness that made the original trilogy feel so timeless. There's of course more to it than that, but it's definitely notable.
What are you talking about, the books go much more in depth with named orc characters, they even have internal strife and politics, from what we see of them
@@holocaustguy1007 Oh hey, I never saw this reply. While you're 100% right, that's not exactly what I was saying. More so that the orcs in the books tended to have each army being portrayed character-wise by one orc. Grishnakh is a great example of that. Like the one character spoke for the vast majority of the army. For the record, this was by no means a complaint or criticism of the books, especially since a lot of this can be attributed to the movies providing more visual differences, it's just a neat difference that I noticed.
@Geo Pacifica It was said that the original story could never be adapted on screen. PJ did it in his own interpretation, without some characters like Tom Bombadil and the timeline is different. But that doesn't matter, because he had to tell the story for the cinema. And as a movie/trilogy this is the best ever made. No doubt. The music, the story, the characters...everything fits totally in. It's an amazing work of art. The best to this day.
Frede Nord “Stalker” by Tarkovsky is the best at least for me, also “Schindlers List” and a “Cure for wellness” and “Interstellar” ! I adore as well “Lost in translation” but “Lotr” is also amazing without a single doubt
Gothmog's plan (if it was his plan) to attempt a night amphibious strike under cover of fog was genius, the Gondorians were lost by the time they noticed the attack.
I remember that the firs time we went to watched ROTK with my friends the day it came out, I stayed for the credits specifically to check is anyone named "Gothmog" would be in the credit, since I really, really wanted to believe that this orc was Gothmog. I would talk about it to my friends of the D&D school club all the time, and the first time we had official confirmation that this orc general was indeed Gothmog was when the official Warhammer-like LOTR game made it to ROTK, and the first figurine of this character came out (on his warg at first, but later they made a version in which he's on foot) my friends couldn't believe that my weird crush on this orc general wasn't just a fever dream, and that his official name was Gothmog. Good times. Then of course ROTK extended edition came out, with more scenes of him, and behind the scenes footage in which they clarify that Lawrence Makoare's other chara was named Gothmog. What a glorious day that was,...
I always loved these interactions between the orcs during the battle. It gave the battle an all new dimension. It's not just a mindless army that attacks that you see in many movies
The orcs are fucken awsome in lotr. They are idiot menchildren that are total ass holes but it's so easy to like them anyway. They may be idiots but they can fight and know how to have fun while doing it.
Donavon Howard awesome to hear bud- I think the only bit that made me jump was when bilbo transforms a bit when he yells at Frodo in the Fellowship - I was like 6 at the time so no wonder I suppose 😂
Absolutely! The LOTR trilogy is the best cinematic ride I've ever been on and it's so damn good even The Academy Awards recognized Return of the King as Best Picture-by miles the best Best Picture winner they've ever given.
Samuel Brown no mate. It really isn’t, it’s clearly meant for children who have no idea who any of the characters are. And almost every work in the movie are CGI looking like some shit video game enemies
@@samuelbrown4764 Yes. Dont remember the bit where theyre in that cavern before he meets golem and the walkways start falling down, that was ridicuclous cgi. Too much animation to little depth to story plot and characters
The Hobbit movies failed for many production related issues. Peter Jackson was called to replace Del Toro after shooting has already begun and he was unprepared. Unlike with the LOTR movies, he did not have 2 whole years to visualise the movies in his head and write/rewrite a good script. The whole thing was a mess after Del Torro abruptly left and I'm surprised they even managed to make all 3 movies successfully, and, even though they weren't very good, they weren't bad either.
If you watch the extended edition its not so bad .. lot of stuff are missing in the original and lot of stuff are cut even from the extended ... yes they made a mistake including some characters from LOTR but that was`nt so bad for the movie
@@Yashnooni Yeah, after looking at the behind the scenes its amazing the films didn't turn out far worse with such limited time constraints and the pathetic mess that Peter was left with. I wonder what could've been if not for idiotic greedy corporate overlords had just given Peter a green light to take as much time as he wanted instead of trying to make a quick buck. But yeah anyone who thinks the Hobbit series was "amazing" have been pretty dumbed down if they have seen lotr first.
lebron jame I thought he would be proud of them as it Shows he survived many battles. And considering one explanation of how the orcs were made is that were deformed and corrupted elves, it wouldn't bother orcs too much. He does seem a bit frustrated that he can't move very well anymore though.
@@tomaszlosinski875 he might've been proud of himself for surviving many injuries, but its clear he wants the other orcs to think of him as strong and capable of doing things by himself.
He's insecure about showing weakness, not his deformities- the reason he pushed the helpful orc away. He wants to be seen as strong and hardcore, despite being an invalid. How I like these little character moments...
Love the scene at 6:48, where the masses of orcs fail to break the gate. So men are not completely overrun or helpless at this point. It´s just much more entertaining to watch such kind of battle, when both sides do not win or lose just because one side is acting completely stupid.
It didn't help that there are many women who are playing orcs in the trilogy, since the orcs are shorter than humans as per the book and they had to play as such since women tend to be shorter than men too. No kidding.
Probably looked like only a couple rows of cavalry. After seeing several archer volleys hardly do anything to the mass he realizes “oh fuck there’s literally thousands of them isn’t there”
I agree that the numbers and tactical fail that other commenters have said is valid and I also thought it was his fear at the vigour and attitude of the rohirrim as they came into his view and saw them, especially when the next shot is Eomer thundering at orcs just furiously.
@@edwarddobson1630 yep, peter jackson regrets his depiction of the ghost army, and wishes he portrayed them more accurately so the orcs and harad flee in terror. This would also make the march on the black gate even more suicidal, because mordor's armies still remain intact
@@edwarddobson1630 It seems that the Rohirrim arrived just in time. The city was just about getting absolutely overrun, and I think two extra hours, and the Witch King taking on Gandalf, would have made a difference for the Orcs. When the Rohirrim arrived, they gave Gondor a bit of breathing room, until the Ghost army cleared out the city.
I like this movie's depiction of Gothmog, you get the impression that he's an orc so fearsome, cunning and ruthless that he named himself after a damn Balrog.
Short biography of Gothmog. Gothmog was born into a poor family of orc peasants. He was sent to the Mordor military school at a very young age because his parents hoped for a better future for him and themselves too since they were struggling to pay the mortgage due to Sauron's unstable monetary policies. In the beginning he was often bullied for his facial deformity but his warm and faithful character soon captivated and softened the hearts of others and he became one of the most beloved students at the school. He was a bright student and went throught the academy without any problems. His talents were not left unnoticed by his superiors and as soon as he reached adulthood, he was sent to serve as an assistant captain to one of the ships in the fleet of the corsairs of Umbar. His attentivenes and humorous nature combined with witts soon became greatly appreciated by his peers on the ship and his rise to stardom could begin. Eventually he became a captain and after completing several raids with the corsairs, he returned to his homeland with riches and fame. He helped his parents to buy a new house in the prestigious and vibrant suburb of Barad Dûr while he himself settled in one of the mansions for high ranked military personell in Minas Morgul. He was promoted to a captain of the Witch King's personal guard and after several years of faithful service he was promoted to a field marshall of the army of Mordor. He wrote several books for children and his own autobiography. In his books he often dealt with themes of bullying, gaining respect and making friendship - his own personal struggles and therefore topics close to his heart. He died at the age of 55 during a failed siege of Minas Tirith. He will always be remembered for his funny and witty comments and jokes just as well as his bravery. We will always remember that moment, when, during a bombardment, he commanded his soldiers not to move, while he himself stepped aside in the last moment when a huge block of a wall was falling on him and those around. A simple but funny joke he pulled off on his peers, which was typical for him. Sadly he died the same day and left a wife and three small children behind. They were all killed during the raids of Minas Morgul. We will remember.
@@Jac.o To be fair, the books mention him what, once? It really isn't a big deal for me they assumed his race and expanded his character (and in such inconic way as welll)
I think he's heating flashbacks of a dark time . Since of course he did remember what balrogs were . Grond was actually the name of Morgoths mace in the first age . ( if you don't know alot of the silmarillion , if you thought sauron was scary ,sauron served Morgoth. The first dark lord of middle earth . Thousands of years ago . His mace was powerful enough to make craters in the ground when he attempted to smash someone with it . As you see how powerful this battering ram is . If only someone can make a tv series of the first age after they're done with the new tv show going on with the second age . I want to see morgoth on screen . FYI Dragons and orcs and trolls amd balrogs were all made by Morgoth . Think about that and of course the processes on how he did all of that . Durins Bane (aka the Balrog named in Moria ) was actually in the first age but was one of the balrogs that managed to hide for the next thousands and thousands of years .
I' am surprised they didnt keep it in the final cut. Its only an extra minute and shows his fate. I kind of wondered where he went when i saw this in theaters so i just assumed he was trampled by horses.
Well it's probably because that would have changed the story too much, the oathbreakers are ethereal and cant touch physical objects in the books nor were they in the battle of minas tirith
Rohan... what a brave folk. They dont get aid from Gondor in the past, but provide nearly her complete military strength to help the people of Gondor. Hail the victorious dead!
Hate the fact Peter Jackson made the Gondor soldiers so helpless. They wield the best gear in the movie, and they get killed as if they were wearing tshirts.
I agree he showed it ad if they were poorly trained and led in reality they should of been one of the most well trained armies and highly capable of fighting the orcs
@@ButchersNailsEnjoyer I do agree with that but still if they have been fighting the orcs for a long time then shouldn't their ranks be filled with veterans who can fight really well and lead the others and put up more of a fight than Peter Jackson portrayed because I would of really liked to see the siege of minas tirith go for a longer time and see it on like the way Tolkien portrayed which was very good
tuber man I’m pretty sure most of the seasoned veterans were at Osgaliath and honestly defending Minis Tirith was a hopeless cause because they were out numbered and boxed in but yeah i also don’t like that in most shots you always see Gondor soldiers dying rather than killing
@@ButchersNailsEnjoyer I do agree with you but do remember the soldiers of minas tirith saw the beacons being lit so they knew that rohan was coming to help them so that would have given them more reason to fight like they did at the battle of the black gate where they were shown to be excellent soldiers because they had a cause to fight for to give frodo and Sam a chance to destroy the ring in the siege of minas tirith the same applies but their cause was different they had to hold out until rohan arrived this would of motivated them but still the sheer number of orcs was the biggest factor to their defeat
10:31 - In medieval times, the word “loose” or “release” was used when commanding archers. The term “fire” is more modern and relates more to guns and cannons. So the commands for archers in battle would go: Nock, draw, loose!
Actually it's a popular myth that archers would have someone telling them when to nock, draw and loose. Someone might tell the archers as a group where to move to I guess, or maybe to STOP firing to conserve arrows or to avoid friendly fire, but really the volleys U see in movies weren't even a thing. If the enemy was in range then archers would pretty much be firing at will, not in unison like it's usually depicted. If U think about it, you'd actually want your arrows released in as random and staggered a way as possible, cos then your enemy can't predict when or where the arrows are going to hit. If you hear an enemy commander yelling out "nock/draw!" and you see a whole group of archers drawing their bows back n firing at the same time, repeatedly in a pattern, then you KNOW when to shield yourself. Also the thing where they show all the archers drawing their bow and holding it for like ten years before firing 😂 it just makes no sense at all, it takes a fair amount of strength to pull back a bow and holding it before shooting just takes up valuable energy for the archers and serves no purpose. One thing they would do would be to have the archers in the front ranks firing basically straight on (actually picking out and aiming for a particular enemy target if they were in range to do so), while the archers further back would fire at a higher angle - that way if you're getting fired at, you've got no way of knowing when an arrow is coming straight at you, and you can't shield yourself from the front AND above at the same time
@@finnericson4392 Best tactic is to make all the archers shoot in like a 50 degree angle (Side ways). So the arrows will hit them from the side. So even when protecting the front/top you they would still get hit. (unless they were doing like a roman testudo).
As disgusting as Gothmog looks the films did a beautiful job portraying a figure who had little attention in the book. How he is scared and his limp leg really above and beyond
I really get how Gothmog feels commanding that 'army' when I remember the times I tried to convince my team members in the Battlefield 4 ingame chat that we really really must take the C flag
There's a charm with Orcs really putting on some New Zealandish accent when they emphasize trailing 'n' sounds with a soft 'h' sound. Gro'NhD. Also the inspection orc with Frodo and Sam in disguise: iiiinspeeectiiooo'Nh
Such a classic! My grandkids watch them during every ho!today after dinner. One at a time, I mean. One of my grandchildren will burn through all three every occasion.
