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+Cameron Begin Are you even aware of the situation? that was Duchene's 30th goal of the season, that is a HUGE milestone marker, the first 30 goal season of his career that's huge... and for Roy to say something about it??? ROY OF ALL PEOPLE?!?! I'm a huge Avs fan so don't get me wrong but that was the biggest hypocritical he could've ever done. EVER. Roy was the king of hotdogging out there, might even remember him being a hot dog and dropping the puck into the net afterwards... really Patrick? just shut up. it's your strategy of playing that's even keeping Duchene only at 30 goals, if we had more puck possession and support around him he could be a 40 goal scorer and easily be topping 70-80 point years, As an Avs fan I have to say goodbye to Roy, I'll stick Duchene at his prime over Roy coaching the team any time. You were a good player Roy, but a good coach.... you are not.
+Zach Larson you are right on that. I just see Patrick Roy as a great goaltender and as and awful person. He should be fired, but I guess because he and Sakic are pals since 20 years he probably won't be.
+Sunburn9000 as far as I'm concerned Sakic should be gone too, he lost O'Reilly and Statsny already in 2 years both at their prime, what's next this year? probably trade Duchene or lose MacKinnon to free agency... they're both great players, but management? no way in hell do they know anything about money and strategy though
+Zach Larson Also worth noting, that night was pretty special for him, his charity for CureSearch was featured before the game and Haven was at the game, probably really special for him to score one for her that night and that it was his 30th.
Sadly NFL players often celebrate and gloat like that when they are losing badly. Hockey always felt like a better team sport for players not doing that, but Duchene didn’t show that.
@@nintendoconvert4045 You're taking out of context here. I played football and hockey as a kid since 9/11 became a thing. Each play in football is equivalent to a giant chunk of consistent play time. Football players have been spending all week working on their small % in what makes them successful. You can always throw a check but to get a sack in football is as rare as scoring goals imo.
Andretti Talk no, you’re missing the point. When your team is losing badly you don’t celebrate individual achievements like this. It makes it seem like you don’t care if you win or lose, as long as you get your accolades.
Brady Williams hahahaha thank you I wanted to see this. Just such a strange analogy considering there was a much more obvious one available for that same sport
Still don't under stand why people still say Roy was showboating on that play. During the play before Roy had the puck covered and the ref never blew the whistle. So he was trying to show the ref had the puck.....but we all know what happened next.
You didn’t see Roy doing this when he got lit up against Montreal. Why? Because you don’t do what DoucheAine did when you’re getting blown out. He proved how selfish he is by his reaction. It ain’t about the team, it’s about his personal glory. I’m sure he doesn’t give two shits about the cup and would rather be paid 1 mil a year more to be with a losing team than to win a cup.
+Cass How is that classless? He's just trying to make something out of nothing because he knows he the reason for this... he's probably done. God a player can't even put his arms in the air anymore... pathetic! Ps I'm a pens fan and don't care about the Avs.
The Turby's Not just this one, most of his cellies are pretty bad. I watched a Jets game, which the avs lost, he scored and freaked out. It's just a little stupid.
+strojny1998 you know it's Roy. it's his job to keep the players checked and have them mature and evolve if that's what he thinks wrong in this celly. but he is wrong and just wasting air. he's finished... the fans should vote for Roy leaving like they got John Scott to play in the allstar game. he's becoming a joke too.
Roy is as old school as it gets. Yeah kids excited he scored his 30th, but it’s more about “don’t embarrass yourself by embarrassing the other team.” Love Roy’s reaction. Good on him to get the team back to humble.
i'm not a Avs fan but just because your down 4-0 dosen't mean you don't have to Celebrate 30th goal Roy maybe a good goalie but not that great of a coach just my opinion.
+Ben Dolan Listen they are in a rough spot too try to go in the playoffs. You could tell Roy is just trying too wake his team up because the last couple of games they have been playing so bad!! These are huge games that they should've won too get they're spot in the playoffs but no.. so many dumb plays ive seen by them and i'm not even an colorado fan!
+Ben Dolan What were the thirty goals for? A team that didn't make the playoffs or himself? Roy wants the team to be more focused on winning than individual achievements because when stuff like this happens it send a bad signal to the fans and the players.
Yes, celebrate. Get the team and the fans fired up and ready to score another one. Score four goals in five minutes and its a tie game. It has been done before.
@@TheMrwwekid13 just ask the Canucks we have lost games we were leading by four goals in the last five minutes Detroit a few years back lit us up like a Christmas tree.
He was clearly cheering more about himself getting his 30th goal. No you dont cheer like that when down 4-1 late just because you scored. Celebrating like that doesnt help you come back. Score, come right back and try to get your team pumped up to get another.
Roy is one of the best goalies of all time! he also was always known to have a fire inside him, poke checks, skating out to center ice..Roy can say or do anything he wants
Roy was spot on.... I liken it to a linebacker standing over a receiver he just flattened when his team standing is on the ass-end of the barrel, & they are down by three TD's.
Wow Roy.....that wasn't much of a celebration. He's just pissed his team doesnt like him, and he wasn't able to get this super talented team into the playoffs.
+Bergundy Dream yup that's the way I look at it and I'm not even an avs fan... if I was the coach I'd be pissed. . a lot of people in this comment section have probs never played hockey or been on a team
I know its tough to comeback from 4-1 with four minutes and plus remaining but it is completely doable...Roy is just an ass...you need guys to be vibrant at that point in the game, body language is everything..you need to believe that the team can comeback....If the team camebak or made it close ...Pat Roy wouldn't have said anything...but he sucks as an nhl coach and he needs to throw his players under the bus. Nothing has changed for Pat Roy
Roy's over-celebration resulted in him letting a goal in. Complaining about a team that really didn't have the ability or the coaching to do any better than it did is a bit ironic.
It’s funny to watch this as an Islanders fan now that Patrick Roy is our coach haha. Guy won four championships as a player and is one of the greatest goalies ever. He knows what it takes to win. When the Islanders fired Lane Lambert this past January they were 19-15-11. Under Patrick Roy, they have gone 18-12-4 so far and they are looking to clinch a playoff berth on Saturday afternoon against the Rangers (magic number is 3). Every Islanders fan knew that Lane Lambert was about to be fired but when his replacement was announced it sent shockwaves throughout the fan base. Nobody expected them to hire Patrick Roy. Hopefully they can defy the odds and go on a deep playoff run.
Is that the same Patrick Roy that botched the "statue of liberty" play in the 02 conference final which pretty much cursed that franchise ? Or who took the puck past center ice when he was losing? Is that the same guy
It's the same guy who won 4 Stanley Cups and an NHL record 3 Conn Smythe trophies + 3 Vezina's during his career, and has his number retired by two different franchises as well as being inducted to the HOF. Yes, that guy.
seriously, why are you celebrating when youre eliminated from playoffs and down 4-0 in a game with 5 min left? Shows you he had his personal stats on his mind. bad mentality. I actually agree with roy.
I watched a dude on the Mets a couple years ago hit his first career MLB home run in the 9th inning. The Mets were down 16-2. He did not celebrate and rightfully so they got blown out. Even if it was his first HR he knew better lol
I agree with Patrick completely, if you're going to celebrate when you team is down by four and at this point has just been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, you're showing that you care more about your own achievements then your teams, and that's the real problem here. If you celebrate after the game that's totally acceptable because it's a noticeable achievement but right then and there you're showing very low class.
I agree with him. This reminds me of the Dallas Cowboys being 0-5 and down 14-0 in a game. They score a TD and get an excessive celebration penalty lol.
Or Santanio Holmes as a Jet doing a mock eagle celebration pose in the end zone after catching a touchdown to make the Jets deficit against Philly 28-9
Like, how much celebrating did he actually do? I agree that getting fired up at that point in the game would be silly, but what’d he actually do? Further, if it was goal 30 and it came with a big bonus, it makes total sense.
+Tobias Sandblom Bring energy to the team, absolutely... by scoring another goal and working hard. Not by celebrating when you are down in a game. Celebrate when you tie it. This is key difference between hockey and other North American sports (football and basketball). You don't celebrate when your team is getting its ass handed to it.
J Mosley It's the same here in England with football (Soccer, for you lot). You don't celebrate when you're getting beat 3-0, you celebrate when you either tie it up, or you score with enough time left to get another when you're still down. Not when it's 4-1 with like 3:30 left
Roy is right. You just got eliminated from postseason contention and you're getting blown out in the game. Makes it look like he's more concerned about personal milestones than winning.
30 goals is a big milestone. Roy doesn't need to cut in with his crappy coaching. I can't see him being the Avalanche coach for very long. But Sakic is the coach and the Avalanche upper management is just an old friends club
exactly. poor coaching. you want people to perform you don't denigrate them for scoring. the celebration wasn't super over the top. seems like patrick isn't getting laid enough these days.
@@ianmillerdevilsfan1223 Where did you hear that Roy wanted to model the team after the Kings? I heard that he didn't want to be as patient with the rebuild as Sakic. Regardless, players are always more important than the coach - the best coaches will tell you this. That is why the Duchy trade is much more significant.
@@Rino37 Patrick Roy just brought in former QMJHL players who had big names but didn't pan out. Used his knowledge of their play in juniors to structure his NHL team. Roy was not good for the team long-term.
@@FoxgroveP I agree he wasn't a good fit... I'm just saying that the Duchy trade was much more significant in terms of turning the Avs around than him leaving, IMO.
I definitely see where Roy is coming from, even though Duchene is my favorite player. He shouldn't have celebrated, sure 30 goals is huge but they had a lot of work to do to pass the wild even though now its impossible. It made him look selfish and egotistical even though I'm sure he's not. My guess is that they were frustrated they didn't put on in the net all night so when they got one in it eased some tension, which I can understand.
David Tye David, you can't just call me out and stop there haha. Feel free to give some more insight into my 'coaching ability.' I like Matt Duchene but given where the Avs were in that game, his celly was out of place. I mean your team is down 4-0 and is close to being eliminated from the playoffs. You are telling me that his celebration was called for? Players should be called out when they are out of line. Then again, you seem to have the right answer(s) on how to coach so disregard my comment ha...
Mr. Muscles...I didn't mean to pick on you, I just can't understand how Roy ever became a coach with the way he handles situations & his players & I hope if he gets fired he doesn't look to coming to Montreal...we're having enough trouble without adding him to the mix.
David Tye I didn't think you were picking on me so we are all good from that standpoint ha. It is quite possible that one could criticize Coach Roy on how he has handled the team in the past. Based on the presser only, I have no issue with what Roy said. Matt's celly, to me, reflected where he is at mentally. COL absolutely need that game and came up small. Really small. The way Duchene celebrated, you'd think that the Avs completed a comeback with 4 minutes left in the 3rd period. Going into that game, COL had a 3.1% chance of making the playoffs (per Sports Club Stats). Posting a goose egg for almost 56 minutes would leave too ticked off to even react let alone celebrate the way Duchene did. I say all this as being a big fan of Matt.
NijaBoiTellEm Celebrating when down 4-0 (Scoring to make it 4-1) in most games (American Football aside) always looked and felt like it was an "All me" deal... no, you had 5 other guys with ya on the ice, or eleven on the field.
+AvsSniper92 Smarter avs fan here, Dutchy's celly was extremely selfish. Out of the game, out of the playoffs, but good thing he got 30 right? No, it doesn't mean anything, hockey is a team sport. I am sure the other boys were excited for him but he clearly had his personal milestone in mind, not the team. I don't always agree with Roy either but i also have no issue with pulling the goalie early. It's not about blaming Varly or throwing in the towel, he is giving his team the best possible chance to score and if the team can't rally in a 6 on 5, then they are not going to win anyways.
I always thought there was a language barrier in Roy saying that this proves they're playing for selfish reasons (which was kind of proven with duchene) instead of playing for team wins. Imo that was his point.
@@jacobhixson9337 And I don't care what the bar is for "Patrick Roy" , although Friday nights I set the bar pretty low, not sure you'd make the cut, but I could be wrong 😉
@@Gas_Station_Tampons this would be funnier if you didn't already establish you care what the bar is for roy by commenting, and, more importantly, we couldn't see your ugly mug while you pretend to be someone you're not on the interwebs as a defense mechanism. woof.
@@jacobhixson9337 LOL, this would be funnier if you didn't already establish you care what the bar is for me by replying, and. more importantly, we couldn't see you replied emotionally and had to edit your comment, because we both know that your ugly mug is the whole reason you pretend to be someone you're not on the interwebs as a defense mechanism. woof. 🤣 This is obviously the only conversation you've had with a woman lately, Jacob, and it is more than obvious that it might just be the only way you get to talk with girls; on "the interwebs" 🤣🤢🤮
@@jacobhixson9337 Who's "we"? unlike you, I wasn't trying to be a jerk as a defense mechanism. I pointed out that we can see your ad hominem reply and. the reality of that. have fun projecting on the internet, though.
cool novel though. keep trying to paint a picture that doesn't exist after someone pointed out what you sound like after you thought it was a strength in your initial reply. who's emotional, incel?
Wtf this isn't peewee. Who cares if it's 4-0, he scored a goal and got hype. What do you expect. These are grown men play in an intense sport, and I doubt anyone took it to heart that he reacted in that way.
when you hear veteran players like Roy, Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux, etc. talk about "playing the game the right way", this is what they mean. When you score a meaningless goal you don't make it about yourself and disrespect your opponent.
Dude what. Roy gave up on his job as a goalie to cross center ice with the puck and take a penalty. When they say play the game the right way they’re talking about skill over toughness.
That’s not disrespectful of the opponent. That’s disrespectful of his teammates and organization. There’s an enormous difference. Duchesne is gone this off-season. Roy won’t tolerate that.
@@hayesfamily4439 Oh, I agree, but also think Roy, as a goalie, was also seeing it from Nillson's perspective. He says in the clip "that's not what we want from our guys at all." Meaning you don't show up the opponent. I'm a Bruins fan, and there was time when Zdeno Chara took Tyler Seguin aside in the locker room and read him the riot act after he over-celebrated a late game goal against the backup goalie in a Bruins rout. Chara's point being you don't show up the other team over a garbage time goal. That's not the way to play the game.
@@grannysgonerabid7425 Garbage time? I don’t think Roy would consider this garbage time. He’d want his players focused on trying to make a comeback happen, not on individual accolades/bonuses.
And almost 10 years later, Roy gets his first win as the Islanders head coach from a Duchene turnover in OT 😂 sometimes these things just write themselves
Hes right, 4-0 game, and cellying that hard for 30?! Come on, dude acted like it was 50, the strangest thing is Boedker picks up the puck like its significant. Didnt know 30 was the new 50. Absolute dust bud.
If you score, celebrate. I don’t care. I’d much rather see this every night then see what Roy did when he was down 4-1 with 4 minutes left. He gave up on the game, skated past center ice and took a penalty. We’ve seen so many games tied in the last minutes due to 2-5 goals scored in the 3rd, it’s absolute bullshit if you think it’s impossible.
@Anonymous Also we just saw Philly, a non playoff team down 4-1 late in the 3rd come back to tie and win it. I get it that it’s personal, he’s not what everyone expected him to be, but he didn’t do anything but score a goal and raise his hands.
I like Roy. I've watched his career for 40 years, on and off the ice as a coach ...but I'm definitely a born STL fan, so with that having been said, perhaps a skillful dude like Patrick Roy may have seen early on that they weren't going to always have such an easy time against STL, and for a player to rub in at all a 4-0 goal in this context was a little...less than gentlemanly...
Lol, coming from the guy who once let in a goal because he cele'd too hard after catching it and the puck fell out of his glove. I know that was a long time ago, but it must have been hard for his players to take him seriously for this sort of criticism.
@@doeyjiaz4798 come on dude, once they have thier 6 bedroom house, thier brand now Tesla, thier wife and kids, what else is there? Maybe he was excited about some extra cash being so young, but I guarantee you now it's MUCH less important than winning the cup.
Roy would have a meltdown if he was ever an NFL HC..celebrating trivial accomplishments while getting blown out and blatantly putting personal goals ahead of team success is the norm.
Years later, Duchene continues to lose on his teams; Roy isn’t coaching in the NHL; but Colorado won a cup. The real lesson? Joe Sakic knows what he’s doing.
