Government Types of the Future 

Laughs in Gekoloniseerd

As well as in whatever dialects seasteaders might speak

Government worship is fucking dangerous. You don't like corporate monopolies.... lol, wait until you see government monopolies.

Meanwhile Dubai is busy pumping sand and rocks out to sea making islands even they can't afford.

@@seditt5146 and which will soon be reclaimed by water due to climate change :D

💫 Because it's cool 💫 🍀 👊🐺☀️🌎🌘🧙‍♂️👍

Sounds like a great future honestly.

Add that to the list of things Kardashev-2 civilizations do 'just because they can'.

And only legislating in haikus

Jokes on you, Isaac is from the future!

Sounds excellent

Yeah, too bad in America there aren't term limits on most public offices. It's actually insane. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Such a common phrase yet people still elect the same jack-offs every chance they get.

@@HauntaskhanHYPNOSIS Well, its hard for them not to elect the same when they legitimately worship one of them.

@@virtualtools_3021 even ignoring the prezidency, some senators have been in office almost 50 years

America is a plutocracy if I'm not mistaken

Once, some magic mushrooms told me that's their type of gov't, but I think it's a pile of crap.

Vermin Supreme is that you

Someone's gotta read the patterns though, a bovine ambulomancer, if you will. Would they also be decided by the cattle?

@@squirlmy I talked to a mushroom once. He seemed like a fungi

So that is why the aliens show such interest in our cows!

. . . and the continued effort of those admins and moderators. That virtual world doesn't sustain itself, after all (see also: entropy).

They only last for so long until they fall apart though.

Inertia?

Not completely true, look at what happened to Second Life. You could compare it to the fall of the Roman Empire. Now it's barely a semblance of what it once was.

Yes, and what’s harder is that most companies and sites, set them selves up as mini dictatorships, basically every bit social media site has corporate structure.

A fellow wanderer! I have never been bored in my life and can't imagine that changing in a thousand years...There is just so much to do! So many places to go! So much to see!

@@wolfvale7863 That sounds awesome!!!!

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@@roccosalerino9215 what the?

That's assuming that you recognize that she is family.

HAH!

So you mean, like what's happening in Russia and China?

If you say technocracy means rule by technicality, they'll strangle you

That's pedantcrocy! 24:17

@@MarkusAldawn Well I'd hope we'd come a day where disparity is always addressed through technological means first before inviting restrictive policies.

We all do

Like gettin dominated I see? ;)

That escalated quickly. Lol

@@dbjt6466 ;)

I usually bring vodka in

Watch out! The AI's are starting to make the AI's now.

@@wolfvale7863 so an artificial intelligence is going to do is look at our laws and continue interpreting with refinements of those laws, regardless if they make sense or not. That does make things easier without a programmer.

@@SeanMarshallradzero AI will evolve their own logic and interpretations. It is what worries us the most about AI Adaptive AI learning by itself. Risks are high that if the AI is only focusing on laws for the law's sake that if something fell from a building and killed someone. We would be wearing hardhats to the office. So yes I agree with you. It would have to be a blindingly intelligent AI to pull off governing.

@@wolfvale7863 Imagine this, a guy gets ran over by a car so the AI bans cars or something

@@abyssstrider2547 That is what human governments sometimes try to do though.

I'm new here so I may be wrong, but I assumed it was nom de plume he had chosen to honor them.

Talk about being named to be a futurist. Quite awesome.

I heard once that the first letter in someone’s name can influence their future. Those with letters at the front of the alphabet tend to be more successful, while those at the end of the alphabet tend to be unsuccessful. That’s why if I ever have a kid, I’ll give them an A name.

He's a clone of both men, send here at this time from the future.

I'm pretty sure we've all had the same thought

An humans love their social debates, arguing, and out right trash talking each other. I have met people that didn't care IF they were wrong and in fact knew nothing about the given topic. They Just Want YOU to Admit, that You.. Are .. WRONG .. ! An A.I. up loaded with full legal and court ethics will spot and call a human on the bull crap before the finish their three minutes of allotted time. If humans can't win on facts they go with emotion to knee jerk the crowd of listeners. Early A.I. will only have stated facts to run on with no emotional development. They have no ego to get up set with cause their " view " isn't " winning." I have cause people to throw screaming tantrums by play off Star Trek's Spock & Tuvock Vulcan characters. Just by using logic in making them question what they were saying. An A.I. could do a better job, along with playing their own voice back at them.

@@krispalermo8133 i honestly can not understand what you said, like i dont get what you wrote.

@@user-tk2lf1dv3s Human " assumption " are base more on emotions then on half listen to facts. As for " ethics " it is base on more of doing something or not doing something cause of legal ramifications, not because of it being " morally " right or wrong. Humans deal in emotion and mental manipulation then dealing in hard facts when interacting with each other. Watch the tv series " Law & Order," or politicians debating " Climate Change. " Such court room behavior will be seen as insane for an A.I. to figure out.

Great game! Has a lot of hard sci-fi and a fascinating mix of ideologies.

Immortality is not the same as invincibility. Assuming you are talking about biological immortality. See Kyle hill on this subject.

In extreme cases immortality can lead to coups or even civil wars. If the new generation only hope of gaining power is by either killing their predecessor or moving to somewhere else. They might decide that they don't want to leave home. Or that they have a better chance of gaining power where they are already at.

That's an interesting idea! Maybe ambitious youth will tend to migrate, maybe they'll be KICKED OUT, so to speak.

"It is better to rule in Hell..." Your point is taken, but I couldn't help thinking of that.

Or a society where only the wealthy can afford immortality. E.g. Altered Carbon

Beerocracy: a government run by brewers and brewing interests

@@theexcaliburone5933 Rootbeerocracy. Roobeer

"He steals but does" this is the phrase that defines elected politicians and Brazilian democracy

www.forbes.com/sites/danielaraya/2020/09/01/is-the-venus-project-the-next-stage-in-human-evolution/?sh=79a47c785c35

@@giovannirodriguesdasilva646 only Brazilian?

Nonsense quote

Is that sarcasm? Lol

Sarcasm? Nah, it’s just the truth

As Churchill said though: "The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter"

@@Maty83. well just don't be murica

@@Bruh-hq1hx No system is perfect, so I can't see why you said what you did. USA is pretty darn good compared to most other ones.

IF we survive this century, I think that is almost certain. We have several nasty bottlenecks arriving almost simultaneously, and unless handled with alacrity and finesse (both of which are uncommon in government - or indeed any large organisation), the combination has Great Filter writ large upon it. IMHO, of course.

@@CyberiusT Exactly what I was thinking. It's weird "knowing" I will be here to see our ascendance or destruction. But I remain an optimist. And even if we don't make it, it will at least be interesting to see how we don't make it.

@@Feroce can someone link me to what a type one civilization is?

if some idiot push ww3 we might not lol.

Hopefully

Direct democracy is mob rule that always leads to discrimination of certain minorities

I suppose you mean because many of them might directly be your children or siblings. I say that because just because they're alive doesn't mean you celebrate holidays with them much. I have plenty of cousins and great aunts and uncles and things I don't really see that much even on holidays. Over longer periods of time, this kind of fragmentation of families could even happen with siblings or even parents and children, especially if there were actually hundreds of thousands of them like you suggest.

​@@Mr.Nichan Just a little tongue in cheek comment, no need to overthink it :) That said I would admit to being a little curious as to what would happen to the family dynamic should we ever develop radical life extension technology. It's something Isaac has only touched on indirectly as far as I recall. The consciousness and identity episode comes to mind, no pun intended.

Gareth Bunting interesting thought, it’d most likely be something along the lines of a miniature version of a decentralised community, I.e. if people really do live for centuries/millenniums then even ‘close descendants’ will become very common and large and thus you’ll have different parts of the ‘family’ branch of and form their own independent communities which may spread across multiple systems/planets, with their own family hierarchy with varying levels of influence/autonomy. They may also have a system (not unlike migrants families spread around Earth meeting up on holidays one a year or two) whereby they get together and discuss family hierarchy issues or even just celebrate the oldest person of a particular branch reach his 6th century birthday. Funnily enough it would be very similar to how people of Scottish descent put value to their ‘ancestral clans’ and say in America they’ll have 1/4/5 year festivals where each clan is represented in a call to arms type of gathering; pretty much symbolic but very holiday like!

I had a great grandmother who sent me a card with small amounts of money every birthday and Christmas; it made me feel special because I knew she had close to a hundred living descendants (down to great-great-great grandchildren, she was 102 when she died). Mom kind of spoiled it for me when she mentioned "Dan, she has a service ...".

There is this city where most people are from one family the head of it all somehow knows when you are his descendant or not even though he has a city full of descendants

Good night :)

it has a limit lol. he is talking about hundred years from now do you believe government will change in our lifetime? I think it will take only something like WW3 before humans consider using other form of government. like the ww2 it only take that many casualty before people decide to get rid most of the monarch and create a new form of government.

@@cutiebaliwFreedownload Given what has happened in Murica this week, you may not have long to wait for changes.

Glad you made it through! Stay safe and stay healthy in the aftermath. Was it a cat 5 when it hit?

@@ColdHawk High level cat 4

Dude was your house ok? Your family good? That storm sounded apocalyptic

@@ungabunga3183 Thanks for your concern. Yes. My family and close friends are good. However, there are lots of people in need right now. I'll be going out in the morning to help whoever needs. Well, and deserves it. I mean, I ain't about going clean someone's yard that hasn't done it themselves in a while. Lol

Bro that sounds so cool you're gonna have a story to tell for the rest of your life

That, plus in a third-dimensional society it becomes nearly impossible to scold or regulate groups of people, so people will tend to do and go wherever they want with few, if any, restrictions. Obviously the 'good' and 'bad' people will tend to stick together, however I think natural incentives for survival and to do well by others will dwarf most impulses to do bad things - else risk living in exile, on the fringes of functional society - and as a result, choosing to forego the wealth of resources shared by common society by simply choosing to creates an unprecedented level of self-regulation as the societal norm.

Its a natural state of the homo sapien. We will always be nomadic

@@carlosandleon I'd say we will always be able to adapt to a nomadic lifestyle as a species and viceversa

The Galactic Barbarian Migration triggered by the displacement caused by the Space Huns is going to be an interesting few millenia in Milky Way history.

Or you know, normal pastoralism. That has never died out

Weak government then

Not a bad trade for spider-peace!

LoL! There is so much political satire gold to be mined from this video. But once someone starts down that road it’s a short trip straight down into that cesspit, so I will keep quiet. Unfortunately, these days, lighthearted jests are not taken with a light heart making the topic a minefield for even the lightest step. Far too easy to end up with foot in mouth.

@@ColdHawk ... Aww... you're just saying that because it's true.

Omg yes I was hoping someone else would notice that!!!

this

Many people view democracy as only slightly better than most other options. It is, after all, merely a euphemism for “mob rule”. I can’t recall off the top of my head which founding father was quoted as saying, “Democracy is the equivalent of two wolves and a sheep, voting on what’s for dinner.”

How they can be overcome is simple. The labourers always are those in control. The leaders know how to lead, but the labour knows how to *run everything* Its just another Master Slave relationship. The Master needs the slave, the slave doesnt need the master; the slave knows how to do everything, the master only knows how to use a slave. No matter how you cut it out to be, nor how you envision it all, the master slave dialectic always ends with the slave holding more power then the master. Even when that slave is called "wage labour" and the master called "capital investment" Hence why every country for the latter 200 years has been rapidly trying out new ideas to balance everything out, with some failures along the way... We still are not close to stable, to many want to be master over slaves who don't need a master

@@allhumansarejusthuman.5776 Has your arm ever rebelled against you? This isn't normal human politics he's talking about. (On second thought, that is kind of a thing, but Alien Hand Syndrome is the result of different parts of the brain not working together and doesn't actually involve the body-part itself rebelling, so the point kind of still stands. Cancer might be a better example, except that the cancer ends up killing itself in the end.)

His first video was in 2014

Who controls the present controls the future! ;)

So...who controls the present? The rich?

Time cop

@@ntwalipat2 “The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.” ― Friedrich Nietzsche

@@rajivbhar7299 “Whoever controls the media, controls the mind” ― Jim Morrison Rich perhaps.

! That's a new one. "PLUTO.... is a PLANET!"

The Planetocracy is the Plutocracy of Pluto, consisting entirely of wealthy and formerly wealthy humans and AI who settled there for the exclusive purpose of proving that the asteroid was a planet by living upon it, somehow. These settlers subsequently determined their leadership based on the amount of funding devoted to ‘The Cause,’ namely, promotion of Pluto’s planethood back on earth. With the largest proportional trade deficit seen since the early 21st century, and no preexisting planetary economy of any kind, the Planetocracy is viewed as little more than a meme by the Terran and Venusian powers.

and the presidential debates of Socrates vs Plato on PBS(Pluto Broadcating System)

Government worship is fucking dangerous. You don't like corporate monopolies.... lol, wait until you see government monopolies.

@@walperstyle Sir, this a comments section in which we joke about plutocracies, and you're injecting some nonsense about nationalization into it. This implies, given the fact none of us were talking about anything of the sort, that you, yourself, acknowledge *whatever* you're talking about as a problem, given that this idea came from you, spoken so that you could respond to it.

Things get even more complex when you consider that any effective system to perform such a role will have to be adaptive, thus necessitating some form of adaptive/learning algorithm. It is hard to imagine any such algorithm which does not need to be trained in order to even start fulfilling such a role and this act is itself an inherently biased act unless such a system is made to significantly dwarf every other system which exists in order to process the dataset of all stored data in existence, anything less you are training it on a subset of all possible data bringing selection bias into play arguably even a perfectly random selection would have a bias granted this is usually called a margin of error but essentially the reason this exists is that if you select a subset by any means there is no way to ensure it's perfectly representative of the unselected members of the set. At least no means that is possible which does not also necessitate knowing the answer every member of the set would give in advance to know the proportion of representatives needed to reflect this at which point the idea of picking a representative sample is moot as you have resorted to a direct poll of all members of the set anyway.

That's a very good point

What about for a decentralized network or algorithm? Votes tallied for each citizens preferences and objective real time data modeling and scientific methodology Each citizen would have a complex vote perhaps by a personal AI or ranked list of preferences which would be used to determine relevant outcomes tested by ensembles of computational models. The outcome of the same event might no be fixed but with a sufficiently large ensemble and iterative model evolution to address identified biases and flaws in policies you could get a far more objective result. Would it be perfect? No, but it would be the average result of modeling that has undergone selective pressure. The important thing is to rule out and eliminate the unfounded, short sighted, or incomplete ideas and policies before they are implemented

If RU-vid is anything to judge by, the algorithms are written by David Duke.

(hurry up and read it before a Nazi feigns offense!)

Meritocracy will be like " jury duty, " you don't campaign to run to be a politicians. You just get selected each month to review and vote on a given issue in your field of study. A few years ago a USA presidential candidate was ask an economic question and he stammer into a flop response. The news reporter then ask the candidate the name of his economic adviser. Political candidate, " Why ?" Reporter, " Cause they seem to know more about economics then you do. So why on G*D's green Earth is he not running instead of you ?" Old joke, " The boss does not earn the business money, he just carries the insurance liability. It is the employees that earn the profit. " Yes I know there is more too it then that, but I have seen more then a few small business build up where the founding owners just pass the labor of book keep off onto others. Then you have those fresh from collage into an office job, play the credit card game with bank loans to build up their credit rating to start businesses only to hire others to run those side businesses for them. Too many go into politics have no real business know how, it is all handle by their advisers. Politicians are just tv camera sales people.

Me too. I say throw that ballot out. It took him 8 seconds and watching it has bothered me for eight minutes or more. Hold yourself together.

This IS his day job and has been for the better part of the channel's existence. If you mean the work at the election commission thingy, that's, like, super minor according to everything we know.

@@unintentionallydramatic No offense was intended but I recognize that humor doesn't always translate well in text.

Same, my brain went straight to Chanur when he said that.

Markus Mencke The fleets themselves were in many ways a form of navarchy. Had they totally controlled the stations, it probably would have been a true navarchy. To rephrase what was said about Sparta and Prussia, there would have been a space navy with bases and stations.

Rough numbers an Acre of land 200ft^2 x 10ft high/ 60m^2 x 3m. plant grow will provide Air for about 20 people; but will only feed between 6 to 8 people. A more hydroponics set up and you can stack it on racks and triple the out put. But any unknown plant virus that shows up could wipe out the whole ship's long term food supply. --- Just a little " food " for though.

A six point blue star imprinted boot.

@@dansmith1661 Or 26 smaller stars.

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a cock slapping against a human face-forever.” -- Aldous Huxley, probably.

@@Phelan666 good one.

weird how RU-vid dismisses complaints about anti-Semitism, but it deletes every anti-fascist word I say. Like Nazis are a protected group, and not a vanquished enemy of our country and the entire free world. RU-vid actively protects the reputation of Nazis with its left hand, while it spoon-feeds white nationalist content to future terrorists with its right. That's the short version of why these space stations are never going to be built. You can't build a space station with a boot on your face.

Is Isaac from the future?!

The gerontocracy or the plutocracy part? Because I see most people being well aware of the sway rich people have on our government.

@@thek2despot426 Not in my social/family circle they don't. T_T

Communism does not work. It de facto cannot take all elements into account, even if there are trillions of continuous clear inputs.

@yeetus says who? How many millions more need to die before the case is closed?

Unless you actively try to avoid it, communal systems will inevitably happen with a post scarcity society. Communism will go down in history much the same as flight... once a complete fantasy into an everyday reality.

@@blueberrylane8340 until we reach post-scarcity, let's keep in mind the >100 mln and counting deaths caused by communism and and stay as far away as possoble from it and the people who it attracts.

The system I am describing would never use Communism because the results are always terrible.

Unless, the A.i. Can see through liars, and dealt with horribly maybe ?

That depends entirely on how it's programmed. Not all AI are programmed to preserve themselves. For example, a su1cide bomber AI.

Stay safe, friend! Good taste in distractions

Nope

Luckily That seems unlikely. In the end as long as states hold a Monopoly on force they can break corporations.

@@JohnSmith-gz4fs It's already happening just look at Amazon, Alphabet, Facebook etc. Governments won't do anything because the politicians are bought out and paid for, Technocrats will replace politicians and A.I will watch over humanity like big brother. The police and military will merge and machine will replace the foot soldiers, drones on patrol 24/7 and everyone kept in line with social credit scores. 👍

@@paladinsmith7050 No, these corporation have limited power. If the US wanted too it could round them up and shoot them all.

@@JohnSmith-gz4fs Limited power are you serious? The tech giants recently censored the president of the united states and can do it to anyone they want online, have you not been paying attention? Mastercard, paypal, chase bank have also been closing bank accounts because of peoples political views. They're all in bed with each other, wakey wakey.

Post scarcity is likely, to "never" be achieved. There will always be something we can do better, or something we need. God forbid true post-scarcity comes about; the inhabitants of such a society are likely to be very pretenious, self centred & not great to be around, not to mention the total disregard for things as "i can just get a new one".

@Slightly Intriguing If you want advancement in the material world, you need materialistic people and incentives (just the way it is, human nature be like that). Such a system would only be possible in a small scale. I mean, for basic needs, in developed countries we are post scarcity already (food, water, sanitation, entertainment, power and such).

Hello there Mr. Grey^^

Voting systems are not really a separate government type like say the difference between monarchy, constitutional monarchy, liberal republicanism, fascist corporatism, anarchism, or socialist republicanism.

@@petersmythe6462 He talks about splitting up votes and multi seat districts in the video.

We use STV in Australia for filling the Senate. 12 seats per state and 2 for the mainland territories, for a total of 76 seats (12*6+2*2=76). The downside is the size of the ballot papers, which end up comparable to a small tablecloth and usually have somewhere around 120 candidates. Yes, you read that right: 120 candidates. Fortunately the electoral commission addresses the problem of so many boxes to number by providing a party-based option, which essentially lets the parties supply the ranking of their own members, but you still have to number at least six of the twenty-or-so parties for a valid vote (at least I think that was what they required last time). Numbering the parties makes the problem comparable to the IRV ballot for the House of Representatives, which usually has 5-10 candidates.

​@@Roxor128 I can see that problem but 12 seat districts are unusually large for STV. Most of the time, districts are 3 or 5 seats.

Actually based on Judges from Biblical times

I thought they were more akin to Roman Praetors

He kidnapped himself

Which head is running?

He's just this guy, you know.

Battletech?

Mencken seems to have put out more good satirical quotes than Churchill or George Carlin :)

9:00 But Congressman X doesn't represent everyone in the district since many voted for the other guy.

Fully automated luxury gay space anarcho-communism*

😂😂😂

Politics and government.. is mundane?