Government Types Overview in Crusader Kings 3 (Clan, Tribal, Feudal) 

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ItalianSpartacus I mean if you had only looked at his various traits such as * Deviant * Kinslayer * Dynastic Kinslayer * Familial Kinslayer * Torturer * Murderer If we only could right click on people in real life What inviting me to a feast Count Joffrey? Well I mean what could possibly go wrong? 🤪

Maybe just expand a bit more before you become feudal

40k troops is pretty expanded..

levies arent that useful anyway

@@d_bak4585 true with a little bit of time he can restore the levies and also can pay for the new troups. The problem is only in the first years

The issue is all the holdings weren’t feudal yet.

oh bro.. i remember getting frustrated clicking on other counties in the war menu because i wanted to change the objective until i saw the "change objective" button. i was sitting there, yelling, going, "WHY CAN'T I JUST ATTACK HERE?!"

I hope they add so that clicking on the map can pick the target.

@@italianspartacus i did the exact same thing

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had trouble with this lol

It's so f good man, I'm really hyped about it too. The only other Paradox title I had previously dived really deep into was Stellaris, which I still adore, but CKIII is better I think. Powet and Revolution - thats a good one? Worth buying?

@@SquareNoggin Power and Revolution is well known for its bugs (unfortunately) but it is the most earnest and complete geopolitical simulation I am aware of. The game is created by Eversim who are known for their real-life geopolitical simulations they do for students and future geoolitocians

As Carpatia I horded about 15k gold, so even as I lost about half my levies (from 24k to 13k) i had enough to pay for my men at arms (not longer costing prestige) and hire quite a few mercenaries if necessary. I should add I own all of Carpatia, about half of the Rus Empire, half of Poland, Croatia and Bosnia. I did the Almost Arpad achievement and quite a few on the way converted all of Carpatia to Hungarian and am now following Mandeaism. Only found myself one time losing the emperor title to my uncle as a 6 year old girl but managed to get it back about 15 years later after I could gather a strong enough faction with my fellow vassals

I know your comment is a year old, but if it wasn't answered yet the best way to transition that I have seen. Hold titles on counties that have 5 plus holdings so that you can place multiple farm lands, have at least 1 costal county to place trade ports, if available in your area a county with a mine, and preferably be at Empire level before the transition. As far as the loss of troops if you have military buildings built you will increase the power of your smaller army to make them more effective, loosing levies is not a game breaker as army size does not matter if you have the stronger more capable army. Also while not necessary taking advantage of some game mechanics like making a culture that combines tech from 2 cultures (like Norman combining Norse and French) can be extremely powerful when transitioning. Oh also making sure you have high control, the same culture, and religion in your domain will prevent infighting and is highly important since you have to reform religion before the transition.

Above comment is too long. Simpler way to transition: max out your men at arms and raise your levies before transition. Levies main purpose is deterrence, once you have your MAA, they become your main army force, levies are just a deterrent against factions.

Just get an heir with theology focus. Stack 4k piety or wait for MA of your religion to drop. Now you can do whatever you want with your religion

@@serhiisietrin9314 prophet perk halves the piety cost of reforming it. I had 5400 piety and it costed about 2700 piety to reform so I was able to do some changes

*Pantheon of Gods

For the norse specifically "executing" your prisoners grants piety. The best way to reform the norse is get 3 holy sites, take the learning lifestyle and unlock the "profit" perk to half reformation costs, and then attack the german minors with the "raid for captives" CB and execute all the heathens. (If you DoW the pope and capture him kill him during the war for 250 piety, i waited an he disappeared) Blood for the blood god with a sadistic ruler is broken, and definitely a warcrime. (Endless piety, stress loss, and dread to keep your subjects in line) Faiths without human sacrifice will have to be much more diligent about piety generation than the norse deciding to just raid some people for it.

@@dinkelpapaoh you’re an expert?

I find it more odd that clan can't use cities in anyway making them significantly weaker

@@warlordnipple Can’t use cities ?

@@AlphaKSS it was a bug in the original build, it might have changed since. They could build cities but could never give them to a character capable of running them

@@warlordnipple oh ok i think it’s fixed now

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You can get direct control of church holdings if your religion allows "lay clergy" or some such option like that.

Thank you for watching! :)

ItalianSpartacus since you are already here I have to ask. I am currently playing as empire of Scandinavia and have army of 30k levies, is it even worth to adopt feudal ways?

So you CAN, but it can be very challenging - you're going to lose all of your buildings, and a ton of levies. BUT! You'll be able to maintain more men-at-arms (MAM) so that you can have a more elite army. It's really up to you, but al ot of people hate going feudal right now

ItalianSpartacus Ok, Thanks!

It'll be in my Faith & Piety video coming up! :)

Try to sell your childreen into important positions in foreign lands. This gives you more dynasty points. And with them, you can take the hostile action disinherit against them. Do it when they are young, since the cost increase over time. Also do not disinherit if you gave them already land! True, they will lose 75 opinion of they parent, but they did not die in a meaningless war against they siblings and your country stays together. If you are low on points and your ruler is getting old, you can also give your own land to your heritage. There is a useful perk in the medical education tree which help you with that. Also keep in mind that you will need 3 holy sites to change your religion.

I don’t know where you heard that from but a quick google search say otherwise, it’s: _de ju·re_ _/di ˈjo͝orē,dā ˈjo͝oˌrā/_ Edit: After further research through the *Merriam-Webster* dictionary it seems that we are both right as it can be pronounced both ways. Example: 🗣 _/dē-ˈju̇r-ē/,_ 🗣 _/dā-ˈyu̇r-/_

AFAIK Latin doesn't have a d͡ʒ (english J) sound. I've had 3 years of Latin during my high school, way back when Edit: A quick look at the table for Latin ortography gives this "Grapheme: ; Latin Phone [j]; Sometimes at the beginning of a syllable, as y in yard, never as j in just."

One is Latin and the other is French. Both are technically correct so no big deal.

Of course Ronnie! thank you so much man. I'm putting out my Tribal to Feudal guide tomorrow so that should help you :)

@@italianspartacus I really appreciate it man , I am trying to restore the Danelaw , it is my ultimate atleast before William of Normandy starts hahaha

No! I believe it's everything above the "line" as the ones below it are special. And you're most welcome brother :)

100% true. I just meant in general!

Not that I'm aware of because the holding button told me "unable to with tribal" that might be about upgrading the main "hold"?? I'll have to chdck! Sorry if this is wrong man! I don't want to spread disinformation

@@italianspartacus You're not wrong. It was the first innovation I went for and it still doesn't allow you to create holdings unfortunately. Its in the tooltip as well.

@@italianspartacus It's all good! honestly I had just started playing CK3 so it is all new to me and I've been learning as I go. Thank you though for taking the time to go out and double check!!

First time playing ck and I've picked it up around hour 70. I've had some experience playing 300 hours in stellaris/500 in civ 5 though.

At least 1000.

Stellaris = 10 hrd CK = 100 hrd EU4 = 1000hrd HOI = never enough

20 hours should be enough to understand what's going on, after my first sit down when it came out I got most of what was going on. But I've got 300 hours in stellaris so maybe it came naturally.

Im 100 hours in, and can say i have a good understanding of the basics, and going in the more detailed stuff now, have played civ 6 and total war for about 500 hours each game, so that might have helped me as well in understanding the game

Always brother!

Was there something in specific that wasn't covered you'd like help with?

@@italianspartacus Sorry good question , I was thinking a but of an in depth look at the special kinds of contract that can be toggled. Examples of when they could / should be used etc. I understand if this is too small a topic. I feel they are not explained all that well and I am especially not so sure when I would want to use them although I am sure they could be helpful or unhelpful in certain situations .

I coild probably crank a 15-20 minute video out for you on that :)

@@italianspartacus I actually believe that. I also believe I would enjoy all of it ;-)

@@Kristaliorn it's pretty self explainatory. Scutage trades most of the levy obligation for greatly increased tax income, that's it. March trades tax income for a stronger military vassal (they don't directly provide higher levy obligation, but the levy boost they get does translate into more levy for you. However their primary purpose is to create a powerful vassal on your border who will expand for you and act as a buffer against invasions from that direction, forcing them to either go around, take attrition passing through, or sit and siege a path through the boosted defensiveness of march's holdings). Palatinate should never be given to any ai vassal, as it makes them ludicrously powerful, but is the ideal for a player that wants to stay a vassal, as it gives you MASSIVE political power internally among the other vassals, and gives you the ability to play the power behind the throne more efficiently than you can without it. It's worth handing out if you're playing with friends to one of them that likes the heavy political side of things to manage the internals of the realm for you, and maybe make your friend that knows the military side of things well a March. There is basically no advantage to the liege to ever give palatinate rights, and the ai is basically never going to use the palatinate benefits to help the realm. the only exception is if you've granted it to your direct heir's contract, however he's also highly likely to take advantage of it to overthrow you. it is pretty useful if you're in elective successions though, as it's really easy to get elected as a palatinate.

Thanks man

You will need to eventually build your growth when you want to covert to feudal, so definitely! Also, increasing your supply limit will help when you have MASSIVE armies :)

@@italianspartacus but are there any specific build options unlocked by these innovations?

Yes! Bruhs allow you to make duchy buildings for example

Maybe because your character is not muslim? The clan type is based upon old Islamic Iqta goverment type, maybe it has something to do with that. Don't count my words for it though because I'm not entirely sure.

yea changing to feudal is a challenging, in CK2 it was highly advised to accumulate a lot of gold ~ 5 - 8k and raise your levies before changing from tribal to feudal so the situation is probably the similar in ck 3

POA, before you change yo feudal have at least 3k gold, and if possible have your capital county be able to hold at least 5 holdings, that means you will build a City, a temple and at 2nd barony right after you switch, once you have the barony start buidling gold and military buildings in your holdings to solidify your position, taking the fist 3 points in the Architect 3 is also advisable.

It is a rough transition, but doable. I raided up to 10,000 gold before taking feudal. Then spent the next three generations playing defense while I built up and maxed my upgrade of every holding I had and all those of my de jure neighbors.

I'm playing Tribal Scandinavian in CK3 now, 2 counties away from forming the Scandinavian Empire. Though I still need to reform the Asatru Faith, which is ridiculously expensive. Any tips on how to do that, which doctrines to pick, get a Head of Faith or not? I'm kinda lost on how should I reform it, and as it so hard to do it, I guess I can't afford to do it twice XD

@@thaliatherasdotter9175 can’t help with what to pick but as far as paying for it. I took an entire generation to reform. I had a ruler that was ok with learning. Sent him down the Theologian track, one perk halves the cost of reform. Saved all my piety. Went on a pilgrimage early to get that perk for bonus piety. Set my wife to help with learning as well. Managed to clear most culture focus’ that generation as well.

You'll LOVE this game then my dude! Give it a shot!! :)

Your understanding of history may change through when you have to fight the Swedish king to get some land in South Africa...

@@molybdaen11 tengri holy war for iceland next?

Republic is a barony level title. It's from a city holding you cannot directly control yourself (as opposed to a castle holding), barons are elected for life. nothing you can ever do about it. I don't think you can convert from clan to feudal. I'd replace the vassal but I'm not sure about it.

You can only change a feudal contract once per lifetime of either you or the vassal.

@@MrEvryn thanks! I was confused because some things (like Causus Beli) explicitly say once per lifetime where this doesn't.

I have to pop in to the game to double chdck, but I believe it's the holding. BUT! Manipulating the contract is down to the individual; you can only leverage hooks on the individual

@@italianspartacus That's sorta what I figured. But thanks. Your stuff is amazingly helpful. Thanks for that.

Absolutely man! Thank you so much for watching

If your men at arms are fully replenished, go ahead and uncheck the maintenance box at the bottom in thr military tab. When you go to war, you can turn it back on :)

Not that I'm aware of :(

you can. Tribal is the basic version of all governments. However clan is exclusive to islamic religions. Everyone else becomes Feudal currently.

ZanathKariashi so if your Muslim and tribal, you’ll become clan?

@@jasonramero6274 If you haven't found out yet, then yes. I'm still relatively new to the game but I was messing around to see how well I would do if I make the game harder for me by starting as a tribe in the bottom left of the map and became a clan.

I readed somewhere that it can be done via a gold castle icon that would appear in holdings own menu. I don't checked that tho and it said it costs a bit of gold too.

Yes, but feudalizing a tribe is 500 gold.

Yes! I believe it's 10 and 25% no matter what

your obligations are only towards your direct liege. that means the duke.

you only ever owe fealty to the person directly above you. They pay their liege out of a cut of their income plus the income you paid them.

I understand that it’s needed for game balance, however it’s also stupid because it promotes having short reigns in order to get casus belis

@@dustydinoface2606 Only if you want to expand as fast as possible and 'win' by conquering everything like a normal strategy game. If you do that in Crusader Kings, you're missing more than 3/4 of the game though, the game has much more depth than "paint the map with your empire". Combat is not where the fun is at.

you're basically pooling a lifetimes worth of favors built on your prestige/piety in order convince everyone to support your claim. (It's also an Invasion CB, which is ridiculously powerful compared to the other CBs in the game, since it allows you take not only the title you declared for, but every single county you besieged during the war that the war-leader has in their realm. You could theorectically conquer the entire byzantine empire in a single war declared for Greece if you took the time to conquer all of it.). It's basically there to represent a once in a life-time goal of legend. Since...let's face it, in the time it takes to get enough prestige/piety to pay for it, you could've conquer 2 kingdoms just using the ducal level conquest, even accounting for truces. So if you use it, you'd better make it worth it.

Didn't imperial system rise after fall of Byzantine?

Absolutely!! :)

Definitely, but your succession is going to be so tumultuous because your heir is not going to have your level of fame, so you'll periodically lose those levies and taxes! There are pros and cons to each

@@italianspartacus I see 'fame' listed in the pop ups is that the same as Prestige? I'm confused on how prestige and renown pass between the generations (or if they do). Does my heir get any Prestige upon my death? I've resorted to marrying for prestige more than alliances at times.

Yes, tribes are ridiculously broken at game start. The issues are declaring wars with no cb, the huge fame from battles, the alternate currency for men at arms, and the very high levy contributions even at very low levels of fame. Just smash your levies into enemy levies whenever they are full, and you will quickly hit living legend. The cost of converting to feudal is also overstated as you can just have feudal vassals and improve their holdings, which can form the core of your post feudal domain. And beating up feudal enemies at 867 is a joke. The king of Ireland can easily field more troops than the emperor of france, let alone the duke of wessex. Because functionally, the king of tribal Ireland has a domain of all of Ireland, for levy purposes.

Fame is like experience points for your level of fame. Prestige is a currency you can spend, that always comes with an equal amount of fame, but you can also earn fame alone, primarily by winning battles against guys you are at war with. Winning battles against guys you are not at war with is way better as you get prestige instead of fame. And piety instead of devotion.

@@petertrudelljr Prestige does not get passed down at death but each character generates their own. Having a family with high renown will also get your kids a nice chunk. Renown is dynasty based so doesn't go down ever, but can be spent on legacies if you're the house head.

You cannot unfortunately

Unfortunately not yet :(

I dont think you understand contract scaming vassals. There can be 1 revision per liege-vassal combo, that can be as big as either can do. Want to exploit it? Go intrigue, create hook->change contract, MURDER, repeat. With double hostile plots you can do this to your entire realm in no time. Watch out, contract scaming pisses off vassals.

you can't unfortunately :(

Honestly I'm over it. I'll just pronounce it whatever way is comfortable for me. I've used three different pronunciations now and I get corrected every time hahahah :)

I'm also sick of it so I finally wanted a clear answer. I think people think de jure is the same as du jour, which is what is causing so much confusion

It's latin and it's actually written as "de Iure" (romans didn't have the letter j) and it's pronounced as the(de) you(Iu)re(as the term Renaissance) the youre. Gosh english is terrible with vowels

just type it in google translator for french and listen to it

@@jvaliente84 french? What heresy are you talking about? You mean italian right?