The Best Government in CK3 

Combine the Magyar and Polish cultures so you can recruit Konni and Horse Archers and have the most broken cavalry in the world

Whoever leads the army in a battle gets the prestige from the win. If you're close to death put your primary heir as the army's leader so that they can already have lots of prestige before you start playing as them.

Quick tip: it's easier to find unmarried courtiers by using filters and saved presets.

As a Hungarian (Magyar) I enjoyed your playthrough! You have hungarian approval haha! Love your vids! 😁✌️

As strong (in early game) as tribals are, in ck2 they were utterly broken. You could make massive armies of retinue (ck2's men at arms) with just prestige and you kept those after becoming tribal. I did some messing about with them and I had 20k retinue troops in 925.

The advantage you had was that you were basically surrounded by feudal realms, if you were to play in eastern europe around poland you would be not only raided all the time but everything else around you would also have being raided not allowing you to make enough money

My brother knows nothing about CK3 but he always watches your intros with me because they’re so entertaining. I love the quality of your vids and how you explain everything, you’re always helping me get better at the game

you always make it look so easy, but you only just play it the right way. from you and ottowa welshman i learned so much. just finished my man of all the isles archievement 😊

The conquer mechanic makes it broken, you can gobble up land and don't have to fedualize the castles or anything like that. Also, love your vids man

I find early game tribal to be a lot of fun but if u can get a few quick victories and grow your power fast then it becomes way too easy.

until recently i have been playing exclusively tall. because i learned how to play this game from your videos it never even OCCURED to me, that i could expand and build a huge empire

can we spare a moment to express how awesome your intros are. you are making great videos Zieley

I am a big fan of the thought and care put into each of your videos. Thank you for your efforts!

Tribal isn't the bes...ooooh Hungarian playthrough. Yes, yes Archer Cavalry are the most powerful. OK, this is an interesting start. Thanks, Zieley.

great now i have the urge to conquer the world as tribal

I though that the trick of marrying for prestige, divorcing using piety and remarrying, over and over again, was well known by now. You can get thousands of prestige that way. Unless you think it's an exploit.

You should add the line from ‘The long kiss goodnight’ where the guy gets thrown out of a truck and complains on the radio that he’s hurt pretty bad and he thinks he’s dying and the bad guy is really annoyed and says “Continue dying”. Use that after the other clip when the guy says I’m dying, help me.

Only watched 4 minutes but had to comment, I've started here before without any of the DLC the guy doesn't get any of those special troops but it doesn't matter, you could curb stomp your big chunky neighbor to your East and full on subjugate him, take his entire Kingdom with one single war that barely needs you to even recruit any extra regiments than what's given at start to fight him with. If you didn't go into the debug menu and execute your starting character I'm certain with those special units there's no doubt in my mind, you would have been EASILY able to take everything within the beginning diplomatic range by simply sneezing on them all.

SO EXCITED TO WATCH YOUR NEW VID! Me and my friend Splinter love you.

I Think that tribal is the best at conquest, and raiding for tons of money! Tribal is great at War, but is also decendant on it! Once you Can no longer raid for supplies, due to YOUR feudal neighbor’s having gotten fotresses that takes months to sige, and/or siege equipment that tribal players just dont have, you have to settle Down, and start building upwards, instead of just expanding and raiding outward’s!

This is a very good video since I really dislike playing tribal. Thank you fit showing me a good way to play it and how to make it fun to play long term. Having onegers as tribal is interesting..

Been spamming your videos lately and it makes me REALLY want to play ck3... but instead, I open the game, get to the realm select window and go 'nope, too complicated' and close it :( At least your videos are 8/8 and not complicated.

Big like just for the intro and outro. And the bit in between ;) Great vid!

scary tactics :) Would love to see this as a Bjorn Ironside

after bombing may stats exam, this just brightened my day

I'll do you one better. Right next to your Magyars is the dutchy of Konugardr. Although Russian in culture, the ruler is a Norse genius. Not only does he have Insane stats, he also starts with an absurd amount of starting gold due to historical reasons. But the really fun part is 'Raid Over Water'. If you think raiding the Bulgarians is fun, try raiding the Pope, or Venice. Or if you really get your Viking brothers together, raiding Constantinople. Not for the prestige (although you get plenty) or gold (lots) but to fish for the Crown Of Justinian for that sweet +1 domain. (likewise, it's a lot of fun to steal the pope's hat if you can get it while raiding the Vatican. As you stated, +1 prestige per month is nothing to sneeze at.) In my current game, I managed to marry my daughter to the leader of the Khazaria Empire, and he eventually declared war on Byz for some counties on north end of the black sea, bringing me in. We smashed the Byz army flat when they landed on the shores of their territory, leaving the Emperor not only without an army, but by the end of the war, over 1k in debt. As the war drew to a close and he finally conceded, the Khazarian army stood down from their siege of Constantinople, got on their boats and were about to sail home when my dude in a rowboat walked up and said "Hi, I didn't declare war, HE DID. My turn. I'll be taking that city now." Byzantine was left with 300 troops, 1000 in debt, and 14k troops sitting outside his city walls. It was a bad day.

DId something change since this video came out? I'm playing as Hungary, but every holding is castle instead of tribal after winning that war against Bulgaria.

Congratulations on the 50k!

Day one of asking Zieley to update this for tours and tournaments.

I think tribals are great, but trying to siege down a level 3 castle with onagers takes literal decades.

I’ve been addicted to your videos lately

I love how the first thing you did is marrying your mother to some lunatic Just to make them fight for you

I dare you to play a game where you don`t build a single building and become the head of the most powerful realm! A true wide playtrough!

‘God save us from the arrows of the magyars!’

I love the vid man !

when you were fighting Byzantines you could only raise man-at-arms and kill all of them anyway without even breaking a sweat. 20 prowess knights with 346% would stack wipe that 10k troops

Hmm yes lore momentum of hungry 100

What s that sad singing voice sound effect you re using?

100% agree tribal is best

I play most games in tribal. I can raid for gold and load up my men at arms with prestige.

Maybe try to do the same thing but in 1066 instead

tbh i always just go down commission epic it’s fucking absurd with tribal

Laughs in gavelkind

So... you're Hungary. You led your tribal Magyars to the doom of many realms and then raised your kingdom's flag in their place as the new powerhouse in the making. You've become a historically accurate Hungary.😂😂😂😂

of course tribal is the best government in tribal age 😅 try taking byzantine or arabia in 1300 as a tribal realm

Give us more than 1 hour video

Zieley why don’t u just imprison ur sons and move to dungeon to fix succession

Prestige my beloved

How did he get so many hooks?

How do I turn off debug menu?

Something I dont think many people know about: IF your HEIR is an INDEPENDANT RULER of EQUAL RANK, when the heir inherits titles, they KEEP THEIR GOVERMENT TYPE. THEREFORE: You Could, as the Byzantine Emperor, Give your heir a Tribal County, then make them an Independant Tribal Emperor, and they would Inherit the Byzantine Empire as a Tribal Empire. If you want to get really cheeky, you could make sure said heir was of Mongolic Culture, so that you could then become Khan of Khans and transform the Byzantine empire into the Mongol Empire. You can also do this the other way around, if you can't be bothered to jump through all the hoops to feudalize - just make your heir an independent feudal ruler and you can simply inherit feudalism. It may seem scary to make your heir an independent, but you have a guaranteed alliance and its very good for developing their prestige. Just keep an eye on them.

With a good foothold in Europe. Aren’t you already in Europe

Tribal is a problem for playing tall

What is your pc specs

Playing the game as a newb, im wondering what the point is in trying to become feudal. Many profound downsides against few modest upsides, kinda ruins a sense of progression in the game.

Why not raid?? Tribal armies should always be on the field, if there are someone the stomp. (edit 10 min later: Finally!)

Play elder kings 2

I was thinking of making a camelry based play through, but I kept having problems finding enough good Knights and never had the maximum possible number of Knights

I don't get it, every video of yours I've seen, you're trying to be feudal as soon as possible.

GG

Unless you're on console

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Truth be told, i do not understand why you put so much value in market buildings as a tribal ruler? I built those things as last. All the other buildings improve your armies that makes raiding and conquering much easyer and you do get ALOT of gold and prestige from raiding. Also, my raiding strategy is actually not focused on gaining gold but to destroy enemy armies. Destroying armies gets you metric ton of prestige that you can spend to build all the buildings you need and upgrade them. On top of that you can max out your MAA. Keep that in mind next time you go to raiding. If enemy army size is 1k troops and you show up with 3k troops, they will not come and fight you so try match the numbers. Small army of 500-1000 elite troops can wipe the floor with those early fedual armies!

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I don't think anyone disagrees that tribal is the best government early game 867 start date. But tribal is not the best government in game beyond 1100 AD. And your video did nothing to prove that it is the best government in the game. So gj on the clickbait.

Here's a challenge idea: Can you be the Ultimate Bro Wingman? Can you make your AI liege into an emperor? I've had thoughts on how to maybe do it, but it'd be cool to see someone better at the game take it on.

Tribal is fun up until about 1100-1200 when the average Italian duke starts to drop 20k armies that can erase 100k tribal troops.

Zieley has some of the best intros on RU-vid, prove me wrong

Until the high medieval era, only the chinese cultural MAA can counter horse archers. They also have excellent base stats and gain large positive modifiers from a single building both in tribal as well as feudal holdings that can be built in most terrains, allowing you to focus heavily on economic buildings as feudal ruler while still gaining massive benefits for your horse archers. They are probably the most cost effective type of MAA. Feudal rulers can even scale their pursuit, allowing you to stack-wipe almost any army.

Something I wanna say about county control that I don't think is covered enough is the court seneschal, most of their aptitude comes from stewardship and even a pretty crappy one will give you a base 0.2 control growth in your domain. They only cost 0.5g/month which in my opinion is extremely worth it. In my early game before I can grant titles to women I often have daughters that are educated in stewardship (so that they can educate nephews, grandsons, etc in stewardship). They are excellent candidates for seneschal as they will have a great aptitude for it and they are part of your dynasty and you have the golden obligations perk, you're giving an income to someone that you can demand payment from later down the line and rotate them out once that hook has been used, making the court position essentially free. To clarify that a bit, with my play style I generally prefer to give my daughters matrilineal marriages with unlanded men that have tier 3 congenital traits rather than marriages for prestige / alliance. I think this pays off in the long run because they give you perfect candidates for vassals - dynasty members educated in your own court, that are very far down in any line of inheritance. Combine that with the fact that you get to arrange their marriages and can prioritise congenital traits, you'll have strong blood in your dynasty in 1-3 generations and genius duke/king level council members within 2-4 generations. That golden obligations thing is pretty min/max though and pretty quickly in your campaign 0.5g/month should become chump change that you don't need to think about at all.

Please do more CK3 playthroughs where you explain what and why you're doing. You're really good at it. I learned a lot from this and your noobs to pro vide.

dunno what I did wrong but as I tried to play the same my buildings are feudal but myself is tribel what did I wrong xD

not only tribal, but horse archers are just insane counter to anything

So if i was to combine the old Norse and also Dutch Culture I could double up on good infantry bonuses yes? Plus in being stoic and having dexterous fisherman you have an automatic +10 defender advantage. Another broken part would be also being Prolific hunters as you gain passive and doubled active prestige gain from said hunts. You can use the free prestige to either purchase or maintain more men-at-arms with a mechanic that you already use constantly in game.

8:20 pro tip: fight on steppe terrain with horse archers, also the Count of Kherson is way more badass start, reply if interested :)

Zieley officaly goes oooga boooga mode

Finally you play as the Best nation in the game. Soo owerpowered soo fun! Just one Quick mention u should make a culture with the russians soo U can be more powerfull early.

I have just now realized…whenever I marry off my courtiers/family members for knights, I’ve been sorting by martial instead of prowess…wow.

@zeiley Thanks for all your content, really enjoy your videos. However, this video saw you use horse archers and abuse an existing game mechanic to make your start as the King of Hungry not the small nation you stated. Also, the near inability to take Constantinople did nothing to distinguish Tribal as a form of government. The strength of the horse archers and your Marshal know-how were cool to watch but but that could be accomplished with any form of government. Again your content is usually stellar. Keep up the good work. Thanks.

This game shoukd be conbined with total war battles.

pls restore roman empire bro you're more than capable.

Now play tribal in high medieval period

I really wish thry gave more complexity to Tribal governance

tribal rulers should not get levies and tax from vassals with higher prestige level so it balances things imo, also would make succesion less stable and more fun and unpredictable

imagine if the pilgrims had to fight native americans with fucking swords and mail.

As a tribal ruler I do not have four building slots. Has that been nerfed?

If your victory exceeds 200% due to you having captured the enemy leader, try ransoming them for a fat stack of gold first. I don't know why so many people haven't realised this yet.

Hiiii just cane in here to drop the idea of 50 clan vassals with iqta and ghazi contract. Iqta gives -2% maa to you and 10 to the vassal. Ghazi gives +10% piety to you and the vassal. With 50 of them you have free men at arms(almost) and 500% piety modifier. Did a run recently and 10K of just horsearchers and lighthorsemen costed 8 gold to maintain and i was getting +50 piety :D. Ofc vassals give you almost nothing but you dont care since you are over vassal limit anyway:D. Also vassals get +15 opinion and since they all have one county its easy asf to beat up factions. New favorite way to play.

Well I see Mr Shawnee seems to think this is click bait claiming it's 'not' the strongest government, bit harsh. I often start as Iceland in 1066 catholic tribal AND Norse is sweet. Pre kingdom lvl I get prestige by raiding (lead them yourself for more prestige and free Viking trait), hunting and feasting. Get an artificer and personal champion ASAP get all the items you can to keep your army running. Other ways are building gathering halls, the dynasty tree glory tree lvl 2 then up the pillage tree and a few cultural perks for hunting and feasting (hunter and reveller get prestige). As soon as you have a 1500 troops go for man and an easy target duchy in Ireland and boom, kingdom. After that your adding to your monthly prestige buy adding artefacts to your throne room, you can fill every position because you have a ton of cash and nothing much to spend it on! Believe it or not if you get some quality items you can get to the top 5 courts in the world with 7 holdings! As for building if you take feudal holdings give them away then you can build stuff in them (not duchy buildings) then take it back. Also absorbing cultures nets you free innovations and I'm pretty sure if you absorb trebuchets you can build them. Sorry that's a lot but Zieley does good videos and 'strongest' is subjective. Pretty quickly in 1066 I can have an equivalent sized army depending on how much territory you've got, more prestige and gold than I can spend and you can reach a court grandeur level of 10! The main argument against it is tech, but I'm sure military stuff can be absorbed and I've never really missed it. By mid game your sitting on your throne with a huge army costing practically nothing and a ton of allies and money to back you up so I would argue it's better simply because it's easier to maintain and get to earlier. Probably overpowered.

I too took Constantinople as a tribal ruler to cap Byzantine empire when I convert to feudal. Too sad, hagia Sophia is disabled of you hold it with a different faith. I wonder if it possible to place a regular duchy building instead of it

While watching this vid I had a thought about vassalage in this game. I feel like the map colors should be offsets of your own with any CA that allows them to declare wars on their own. It would help with at a glance information, including who owns what to an extent.

ngl raiding is so fun

Has anyone tested when you don't need prestige on your character because about to die can you make your heir as your commander to start banking up prestige for when they die or does that not transfer?

My mans Z out here handicapping hisself and still winning with the tribal government. Are you not entertained???

Same in real life.

Become head of faith, take communion, never worry about gold again

Taking Constantinople always makes the byzantine empire shatter in my games

Babe wake up, Zieley dropped another banger

Would love to see you play mount and blade 2 bannerlords!