This is FANTASTIC information, thank you so much for sharing it! Off to find that "Part 2" update video about yield differences :) Edit: I can't find the Part 2 update to this video!!! 😱 Have you made one? Am I just not searching for the right keywords? I'd really appreciate a link to the video of the yield differences between grain / sawdust spawn! Thanks, Gary! 🤘🏻
Thanks, your the first person telling me wa actually can inoculate sawdust with jars & liquid culture ! Thanks you so musn, such a life-changer :) whoop whoop
I have very limited experience, but - lean substrates tend to have less contam in my experiments. I make the dowels for logs and I use a little bit of grain to get the party going for the less delicious wooden dowels. I'm also looking as wood juices for agar (wood juice = liquid from boiling wood sticks)
For outdoor grows use sawdust, I had raccoons, rats ants flies and bugs get attracted to nutrients in the grain save some time and use sawdust spawn for outdoor grows!
Love the content. Really trying to learn so we can start growing. Can I ask one favor of you? If you are recording via phone, can you hold it sideways so the video is full screen? Your small videos hurt my old eyes. Lol thanks a lot.
nice videos! The price range in the USA for mushrooms seems to be around 20 Dollar for 500 Gramm or 1 lb. Thats amazing! Thats worth the work. I start growing as well, but here in Germany nobody will pay prices like that. You can get 1 lb oysters for 3 Euro, and 2lb Shiitake for 18 Euro in the supermarket. May I ask, how you sell your products? Directly to restaurants?
Benjamin Planitzer We sell our products directly to consumers it’s the best way because we can explain exactly what they are and our favorite recipes and types for their needs! Make sure they are top quality and local and you will get the highest value MUSHLOVE
Super video!!!! i would go for hardwood sawdust to :) it may take longer but we may find a way to make it fully colonize quicker :) adding some kind of nutrient or so.. :) anyway! AWESOME TIPS ! You teavhed me alot through your first phrases about sawdust
Great video! Do you have a video on how to prepare a sawdust spawn jar? I don’t mind waiting an extra week for colonization when there’s no contamination.
Gary- how much grain spawn did you add to the substrate bag? I couldn't see in the video if you added the entire quart jar, or if you added less. 1 jar to 5lb substrate?
grains are used for spawn and bulk substrate should be sawdust or a similar matrix. They can be grown on many substrates so it’s not a straight forward answer. You can use wooden dowels to plug into logs for an all wood approach, but you can also use grains to start them on and transfer into a sawdust mixture. That is what we do.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8_LA1I5OLO8.html Here is a video on making substrates it’s an older one but has all the basics covered! Thanks ha I like to use them to the fullest 🤣 MUSHLOVE
Anthony Timmer It is locally sourced sawdust hydrated to 55% with rocky mountain water - I also have been supplementing some batches with laboratory grade gypsum but not that much of a difference so far
Hmmmm If you were to add some sawdust to the grain jars, would it help train the mycelium to be more familiar with the sawdust to speed up the colonization?
Grain contain much more nutritions than sawdust so mycelium grow faster and stronger but risk of developing contaminations is higher compare to sawdust. I prefer combination of 90% sawdust, 8% wheat bran and 2% of gypsum for oyster, shitake and poplar mycelium spawn.
its not very often Ive been surprized but this video certainly caused me to say wow I need to ask - have you checked out the site called gregs mushroom grower just google for it
yes but it takes a bit longer and creates a log jam so that I ran out of space before I was able to put blocks into fruiting. It would work with a larger facility
I have read that gypsum is helpful in grain to not only help PH but help the grain to not stick? wonder if it would do the same to sawdust. I am looking to make some sawdust spawn for log inoculation. (first time, new to hobby) do you have any recommendations or is it just sawdust? (and gypsum haha)
unclesteve313 I have used gypsum in the past and have not noticed significant differences but have also known of others claiming a lot of benefits I guess further research in this area is needed!
You can use ethanol (everclear, available in most liquor stores) just dilute it to 70% - bleach will work but needs to be sprayed and wiped after 15 minutes and can cause corrosion long term
I became a bit confused between the jars and the bags,, question is,,why not just enoculate the bags instead of the double process of enoculating the jar and then put the jar to the bags...?? plus do you honey with the jars and the bags ?? i am just wanting to know the differences.. thank you
It’s a space issue, I have done direct inoculations into bags in the past but it takes over 4 weeks to colonize compared to 2 weeks in the jars and 2 weeks in the bags. Space is a premium in my operation so better to have small jars colonize first and move to larger bags for half the time - hope this makes sense! MUSHLOVE
Blue-Flame Phoenix Rising Because the first two weeks is spent in a small jar which takes up a very small space compared to a large bag. My spawn rack fits in a closet but the incubation space required for bags is a much larger area. If I had the same amount of bags as jars it would require ten fold the space. Imagine planting trees in a forest. One forest keeps small trees all bunched together until they get big enough to move to a larger area and the other forest spreads the trees equally apart from the beginning. The forest that clumps the babies will have much more free space to move the trees as they get larger. The other forest will reach its capacity sooner. It’s economy of space that is important to farming.
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi ,,thank you , you have been patient with me,, I got it, now,, much appreciated..I have much smaller area , so I will grow drawf trees. LOL
Fresh from the Farm Fungi LLC Thanks for the clarification on why you do the two step sawdust. Since i have space for my hobby I think that there will be less chance of contamination if I just do 1 step Especially since I don’t have a flow hood. I figure the 1 step liquid culture to sawdust substrate bag is worth a try for me
mi guel I got mine from Air Science - they are quality and will last a lifetime - maybe they have refurbished units available but it’s rare to find a good piece of lab equipment for a discount
men i have one question. What does the material inside your the sawdust spawn ? there is more nutrients you add in jar extend of sawdust? because i heard transfer clonised sawdust to another sawdust jar for get more spawn make weaker spawn each time ... you think this is true ? if this is true can add something to sawdust to make it more likely grain jar for mycelium?
It will eventually get weaker yes - but that can be corrected with proper moisture content - grains can hold more water but I supplement my bulk substrates with soy hulls. The sawdust spawn is just a cheaper way to get started and is less selective for contaminants.
@@FreshfromtheFarmFungi tanx men. you right may i must get water in it with soy hulls is good idea . and I also add some vitamin fertilizer ... is good to make faster grow my mycelium . this time i mix this 2 Method to see what Result i get.