SPOILERS below: ============ 0:00 "might as well drink with strangers" "We only eat cats"~ 1:09 "what am I doing wrong?" 1:34 "It's a cultural things" 2:48 "family shaman"
I love this scene. Walt feels more "at home" with a people from another country, than he does with his own children. I saw this movie when it released in a theatre, and I still believe it is one of Clint Eastwood's best roles. I still watch it, 8 years later, because the moral is so beautiful to me. Props to Clint Eastwood.
Walt really liked Sue honestly, he saw someone in her that was strong and did not take any of his shit which he respected, respected so much he died for her. Great film.
Zahid Khan Can not understand if you are being a troll or if you honestly think white people are the best over everyone else. If a troll then what ever troll on, if the latter, well, you are one of the reasons wrong with the world.
A 75-ish man has drank at least 7 PBR beers on an almost empty stomach, then treats himself to a Tsing Tao beer and rice liquor at the Hmong’s home while gorging himself on their exotic cuisine and is nowhere near piss drunk, just buzzed. Functional alcoholism at its finest!
You're not a real alcholic until you start popping a hard drink at 7 a.m. this is just called being a man. Soyboys today wouldn't tell the difference tho.
@@justinsincoise6693 I can answer only the first part of the mother, asking why Sue brought a white man in their home. Its the best I can do, I'm not fluent. The rest probably was something to do with the event that was happening...but, thats all that I could make out, sorry.
The last 25 seconds communicates so much without any words. Walt is definitely taking the shaman's words to heart as he scans the room - happy family members socializing, laughing together and enjoying one another's company. It's clear that in his heart Walt regrets not being a better father - which is common for men his age who lived a hard life.
He figured the shaman would be full of crap but he was right on the money and Walt knew it. After that he really starts to open up to these people and enjoy their company and takes Thao under his care.
That's How many grandpa was. Flame thrower in Korea- wasn't good to my mom and her siblings. Tough guy. I got to know him, he couldn't sit still long. I wish I got to hang with him more, that's a regret I carry. He wasn't around a lot but I can't say I wanted kuch to do with him either. Wish that was different
To be fair, Walt’s family are kind of selfish and just shit. And a lot of that can’t be necessarily blamed on Walt so much as the culture of modern America, which wouldn’t resonate with a man like Walt who was taught to think about more than yourself. He simply had more in common with the Hmong community
I'm not sure it's even that he regrets being a bad father so much as Walt feels as if he's made the wrong choice fighting for a culture which clearly doesn't value family or the elderly. He feels as if the Hmong people embody all of the virtues that he thought the West did before it lost its principles in the name of 'freedom'.
@@CopiousDoinksLLC That's another great interpretation as well! This movie has so many layers and I love that it allows the audience to make that determination themselves.
I have to chime in here, as Eastwood is one of my heros. He is NOT, i repeat NOT bashing the Hmong...the story as it unfolds reveals the charachter's learning and respect for them and their culture. In the end, he gives his LIFE to try to end some of their internal cultural difficulties. Best movie of all time, and one of latter year's Clint's best.
I'm Viet...I loved this movie. I actually cried at the end...the message and moral of the story is powerful. IMO, one of Clint Eastwood's finest movies.
The moment the shaman states that Walt made a serious mistake in his life that he regrets, that's the moment his perspective on the Hmong begins to change. He knows exactly what he's referring to. He then stands up and takes a look at the Hmong and how happy they are together in their culture, whereas he's ultimately unhappy toward the end of his life despite all that he's achieved. I believe it's what helps motivate him in the end, when he dies to save them.
He died to save them but he died happy because of them. The shaman was right and it totally juxtaposes the birthday horoscope he read earlier. (Which also comes true by the end of the film). Walt seems so much happier once he let Sue and Thao into his life. They were like family to him.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529I remember right after this scene he goes upstairs in the bathroom and says to himself “I have more things in common with these people than my own spoiled rotten family”
0:41 "We got beer too!" Walt/Clint's reaction is priceless!! 😂 Ended up going to the party and slowly comes out of his shell! Great, great film!! Clint is a master!!
LoL I loved that too. Sue was such a kind person and Walt liked her and Thao right from the start. When Walt first sees Thao he seen the boy he shot in the face in Korea (same rifle he pointed in Thao's face in the garage) and it was like he was being given a second chance.
Hmong translation ~ 1:20 "Sue, why did you bring this hairy old white man in our house? We're having a dinner party." 1:30 "We can't have him in here, why is he here?" 3:13 "Want to come meet him?" "Alright, I'm going to tell him his fortune." 1:58 she states all these facts. Yeah they're bullshit we don't really do that.
I love this film. Seeing the racist Walt slowly transform into a better person is wonderful. Alot of people were offended by the language but I wasn't - and I'm Asian-Black mix among others. The language authenticated Walt's character. Clint Eastwood is always the man. The Asian actress is a natural.
The way he stares at the man reading him is because he realizes what he's saying correct which is totally freaking him out. I love Clint's acting in this one.
This movie aged really well. And it is true in real life too, usually the most accurate and deepest fortune tellings or personality readings come at the most unexpected of times and are not deliberately sought out for. If you have to pay money for it, it's most likely just snake oil placebo stuff.
Sue and Walt's relationship in this film is my favorite thing to watch. They play off of each other so well. It's a funny, father-daughter side kick chemistry thing that they have and it's so natural. Love this film.
As a hmong person I’m surprised at how many things this movie got right with depicting hmong life in America. One piece of dialogue that really stuck out to me was when the sister of thao said “the girls go to college and the boys go to jail” it perfectly encapsulates what most hmong males go through. Hell I went through that. Granted I would never try to commit a crime but we really don’t grow up with any sort of guidance or anything. Especially not from our dads. I’ve seen countless amounts of hmong guys in my extended family and stuff just join the dumb gangs because they didn’t know what to do. It’s one of the reason why I distanced myself from my culture. Another thing, the grandma is so accurate 😭 it’s so fucking weird how they’re able to capture a hmong grandma. THEY NEVER SHUT UP! They somehow manage to find ways to run their mouths over and over again! They’re so stubborn all the time too, and ignorant. Overall, I liked this movie. It was fun to watch and it honestly made me reflect on myself and my own culture. It somehow captures what the struggles of hmong people in America is like.
@@mostneuter fair enough but still they've been in America long enough to know that people do this here at least Sue was nice enough to explain to him otherwise he would have told them all to go fuck themselves I'm sure he was about to do that to if Susan did not explain
Besides having more in common with the Hmong family than his biological one, one thing that struck me is how the Hmong family respected their elders. Walt's kids and grandkids on the other hand already had him in the grave not one minute after his wife's funeral. Between his daughter downright asking for the car after he's dead as well as his son giving him brochures for assisted living centers.
Wow, I'm almost 50 and that Shaman could have been talking about me. I love this movie, it strikes a chord with me on so many levels. Walt was a mean grumpy old man with nothing good to say, and he ended up being Thao's friend, mentor and savior. And he literally sacrificed his life for him. Awesome movie.
It's also great he learned to let go of his bias and his racial attitudes, and find a place and among a group that seemed so different from him. Very much one of my favorite movies.
Thanks to Karoni, I watched this movie. This is what America of Poland in Czikago looked like. Great movie, but it is. I am already in paradise. A great movie and a real story about the end of America. Clint Eastwood is a protestant, but he shows a film about a great Polish patriot and a Catholic, a Pole man. morals, ethical values. if I watch how it is there, I want to go.
Great movie and evidence that a film can be awesome because it has an incredibly good story that is well executed. Far better than those comic book hero movies that are so trendy these days.
Comic movies are soooo played out. Zack Snyder's Justice League was awesome and so was a few others but a film like Gran Torino is something that can change your life.
kongfeet81 For Walt, alcohol was just something a regular part of his life. He drank at least 7 PBR beers, 2 Tsing Tao’s, and some rice liquor in a day. Tolerance’s with ethnic Eastern Europeans middle-age and up in America tend to be pretty high. Many medical institutions declare you an alcoholic if you have more than 4 drinks a week!
talons claw Yep, Mr. Kowalski is so sad and aloof that he needs a shaman to cheer him up. Whether it's really supernatural, it's true that ones can't find inner peace until they become aware of the problems that have been eating them up and then either accept it or work on it. For instance, just like the "life and death" talk between Mr.Kowalski and the priest where the priest points out a possible problem: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JmqV-LGbqkw.html
+Bruce Huang - you make a good point my friend, but just maybe kowalski doesn't want to be happy, maybe he thinks it's overrated, maybe he thinks he'd had his happiness and it's never going to be that way again. he's a racist and a miserable old ass, maybe that's what he deserves. let him wallow in it i say.
I love Clint. Great movie. Powerful message. I'd love to have a guy like that living on my street. He'd be invited to my BBQ any time. He'd be a blast to watch the game and share a few beers with.
Clint Eastwood is probably the only conservative in America who has sense when it comes to social issues. I doubt any director aside from him, liberal or conservative, would have bothered to cast real Hmong people in the movie. I might disagree with him on 90% of the issues, but I have tremendous respect for the man, and everyone else should too.
Clint actually considers himself more of a Libertarian than a Conservative. Actual Liberals are also starting to go towards a Libertarian path since the left in America has gotten away from traditional Liberal ideology ie freedom of thought/expression/speech. Left vs right has almost become obsolete now, it has become freedom vs authoritarian. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AnkeDlOGkAw.html
the choice of Hmong characters to be his neighbors is intriguing. They obviously remind Walt of the Koreans he fought with, despite being from a completely different part of Asia. Similarly, you can tell they kinda lump all white people in together. Because neither side appreciates the subtle differences of the other
You can tell Walter is a very nice guy, but the problem is his voice (it sounds intimidatingly badass) and the fact he's not from their culture (a thing I kinda understand because my family is very traditional), also, when the shaman reads Walter, you can tell that he realizes that it's true.
Clint was unbelievably open minded. Don't forget , he is an actor. This was remarkable. His stunning portrayal of the old white guy was horrifyingly accurate.
I want yo believe snake manage to live a couple of years more( with some medical treatment for his condition) in some place in alaska following big boss's advice and then, dying peacefully and happy.
One of the best Eastwood movies I think . He wasn't awarded for it because people can't get beyond political correctness anymore. But if you watch the whole movie it is great . The haters never watched it to the end.
i love walt and sue in this movie. they are so different. yet show so much respect for each other. she really helped him to overcome his isolation and he really looked out for her brother and the whole family
This movie had a lot of heart. Of course it's over the top but the premise and themes are good ones. This movie also bridged generations of movie goers in a way few films do. You can watch this movie as a teen, as a young adult, as a parent, and as a senior citizen and have a different reaction each time. This was a great modern film that also plays like an older classic films of the 40s, 50s early 60s. It's already 14 years old now but I believe this movie will be a stand out "must see" to future generations if they study cinema of the early 2000s.
The difference is that white people send the old people to a retirement home so that they don't have to watch over their parents. However, Hmong people respect and honor their parents for bringing them up, in return they take care of their parents and have them live with them so that they can take care of their parents
can't speak for my whole race but... got to hold my father on the toilet after him having a dehydration induced seize... was super fun! couldn't yell for help since neighbors are kinda far away... couldn't go for the phone since i had to hold him up.. *he was 275 at the time... so, brought him through all that... cleaned his shit (i guess im not gonna be scared about wiping my childrens bottom now..) all to say... there are loving and good people in every race... and i'm probably gonna take over this mortgage.
Well for your information, it isn't exclusive to the Hmong people. Igbos from West African all most worship their parents, and do not retire them to elderly homes.
You can respect and honor your parents and not want to take care of them like that or live with them. The same as a parent can not want their children to wipe their ass or have to care for them this way.I would respect my children enough to not want them to do this for me. Only certain types of people should do this kind of work if they are related to you or not shouldnt matter.
I can't believe I have to be the first to say that this is not by any means true for all Americans, and that it's a much bigger problem now than it used to be.
Wow most people don't get this scene. He feels bad because he killed people that looked like this but never saw families just enemy and orders and now it haunts him.
"Well, sounds dumb, but fine." I don't think enough people realize the beauty of this line lol. The world would be such a better and more accepting place if people lived by this mantra rather than try to judge others and shape them to fit their own ways.
I had a huge extended family as a kid (which was sheer bliss) but that has gradually disappeared and now I'm mostly alone. Try to make your family relationships and traditions last as long as you can.
I can't tell if you're joking or not but he's not talking literally lol. He's talking about when you've given up on life or are feeling depressed, the things that usually bring you joy no longer do. So whilst you could taste & enjoy your food before, it's like your taste buds have gone numb & everything is a little less vibrant than before.
@@stationorange Cry harder as if Americans DONT teach the numerous black inventors that helped or straight up made half the shit we use daily. School is designed to make you think you made everything, and black history month is a single month where they say the same two things slavery and MLK. So, you and your corrupt society can fuck off not teaching Americans or black Americans how much they contributed to science TO BUILDING YOUR COUNTRY FOR FREE. LITERAL CENTURIES of your ignorance not knowing these things you didn't even have soap without them. FUCKING SOAP. Also Africa dwarfs the size of America maybe learn all the groups that were doing their own thing before the land got raped. Weird ass superiority complex Americans have.
I love how Wally here would be considered racist by his surface behavior/talk by many people. But actually he might not tolerate people, but accepts everyones backrounds as long as they are good. no discrimination whatsoever. I think most people today should learn that thoughts and speech need to be free and that it is no indicator for racism. Even prejudices are fine to have, as long as you dont act on them or treat people worse. The only thing that actually IS racist, are the actions you take.
