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Grand Seiko Needs to Chill Out! SBGW277 & SBGW289 compared 

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How does grand seiko release so many watches? And why are so many of them limited editions? In this episode we look at the SBGW line and all the cool ways Grand Seiko is developing its design language through these quintessential watches to its brand.
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@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Join the discussion at WatchCrunch: www.watchcrunch.com/Max/posts/sbgw-is-grand-seiko-s-oyster-perpetual-11103
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 2 года назад
“Grand Seiko releases a new watch every time an employee sees a leaf outside… or a bug…” LOLLLL!!
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r 2 года назад
Did you write the script for this video? 😂
@Sandipan_Naskar
@Sandipan_Naskar 2 года назад
Hello...!
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Hehe, they got teams of these people in the forest 🤣
@raglm
@raglm 2 года назад
Facts! 🤣🤣🤣
@nphana
@nphana 2 года назад
+1 😁😁🥰🥰
@JimLecinski
@JimLecinski 2 года назад
At this point what I most want to see from GS is not more nature inspired dials, but rather a proper bracelet for this price point that has a quick adjust and tapers. Don't know why they are being so stubborn about this.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 года назад
exactly
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Ugh, they are getting better but not quite there yet!
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 2 года назад
@@polygoncoco There are microbrands selling their watches for under 1k that have them. Certainly when a watch company is selling a watch for over 5k, they can add that feature.
@JimLecinski
@JimLecinski 2 года назад
@@polygoncoco agree--Glashutte Original also has an extension button hidden within a thin clasp in its SeaQ divers bracelets. it has a slightly higher price point, but with GS's higher production volumes they really should be able to do this.
@TimepieceCaravan
@TimepieceCaravan 2 года назад
Unpopular Opinion here: I think Grand Seiko bracelets are actually underrated, and might I say, fantastic. Some have a slight taper, they're finished very well (beveled edges, multi component links with different finishes) and a milled clasp with a safe trigger assembly. There needs to be a correction in the narrative. Many Grand Seiko SPORTS watches (SBGE255 and 275 for example) DO have quick adjustments in the clasp. A lot of the popular models discussed on social media (SBGA413, 415, 211 for example) are out of Grand Seiko's DRESS watch catalog. Remember that Grand Seiko is a purity driven brand. They wont put display case backs on their sports watches because, well, it wouldn't be a pure sports watch. They don't put quick adjust clasps on their dress watches because, well... you get the point.
@jim_bocho
@jim_bocho 2 года назад
This is exactly what I would imagine my first Grand Seiko. While I do like their other watches, I’d lean towards other brands for divers, chronographs or a GMT - but man they do know how to make a „simple“ three hander. Especially the 277 is gorgeous.
@astorbeijer9424
@astorbeijer9424 Год назад
These are my favorite GS. I love that they did away with the old man's date window. Not to mention that hideous PR counter. These GSes are the closest anyone has gotten to making the perfect watch. They're just stunning in their luxurious simplicity.
@serenitydevol3027
@serenitydevol3027 2 года назад
Great video! Just added SBGW289 to my collection which is my first GS. Love how the intensity of the dial colour changes with different lighting angles.. I do wish the bracelet comes with micro adjustment though…
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 2 года назад
Woooah! You have Jenni elles music in the background! 😱
@batdroid2705
@batdroid2705 2 года назад
Thanks for this. I ordered the 289 and can't wait to pick it up. I also ordered a couple of straps to go with it as I don't plan to use it on the bracelet. It looked great on your wrist. I can't wait to get it. Thanks. You have yourself a new subscriber
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Oh man you will not be disappointed 👍
@chrisgrieves1468
@chrisgrieves1468 2 года назад
Nicely done, Max. Of course. Really appreciating the regularity of interesting content. I think GS is all about keeping something coming along to keep us talking about the brand. Collectors keep buying them....but I missed the blue SBGK coz I didn't have funds at the time....and difficult to find now. As for the price differential with the regular model, well there is the bracelet, but I got nothing. There really is something about a 44GS case, just love mine. The bracelet in practice is fine to wear but yes they really should be stepping up their game in that department. Mine is on a strap and wears better on a smaller wrist that way (40mm case).
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Yes Chris, I look forward to the day when I no longer immediate switch my GS to a strap 😊
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 2 года назад
I've tried on many Grand Seikos at my AD, but the only ones that appeal to me are the simple three handers on croc straps, such as the beautiful SBGW277.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
It's the simples things that are hard to get right 👍
@BobLorrimer
@BobLorrimer 2 года назад
It's a try before you buy! The GS mechanicals on crocs just felt too clumsy or chunky on me. I found the strap bulky as well . However I bought the GS XBG261G black dial Quartz. I absolutely love it . It's refined and effortless watch. The bracelet is perfect for me and the slightly thinner case works on my wrist. I do have mechanical movements for the higher end social occasions but the GS has become my go to and out the front door watch.
@MegaFclef
@MegaFclef 2 года назад
I own both the W289 and the W277 and the W289 with is classic lines and overall case geometry is a real standout the W289 wears amazing on my near 7 inch wrist. The W277 still works as a dress watch with no under the cuff problems. As I collector I don’t mind the LE that GS keeps cranking out as long as the execution is exceptional
@danielsolstrand
@danielsolstrand 2 года назад
Well said
@NeonMako
@NeonMako 2 года назад
The side profile of the SBGW289 is just
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
😍
@mintruth
@mintruth 2 года назад
I absolutely LOVE what Grand Seiko is DOING!!!
@mrb317
@mrb317 2 года назад
Not rocket science, one is on a bracelet and the limited edition is on a strap, there is your cost difference.. It's also limited because they don't want to mass produce that colour.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
That's one expensive bracelet 😅
@911_dan2
@911_dan2 2 года назад
Black comes with bracelet and strap/deployant
@craig2100
@craig2100 2 года назад
Great review and adjectives. Both are beautiful watches. I wish seiko would allow more affordable versions. Both of these GS are both more beautiful in person, it's hard to capture when filming their gorgeous dials. Thanks for sharing.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Cheers Craig 👍
@litan114
@litan114 2 года назад
"I wish seiko would allow more affordable versions" - then just get a normal seiko - you are paying extra thousand just to add the name "Grand" - neh!!!
@00supersir00
@00supersir00 Год назад
The price difference between the LE and the black dial regular model is because the black dial comes on bracelet and the LE only on leather
@fatwhitetuna6659
@fatwhitetuna6659 Год назад
if the SBGW289 comes with see thru crystal back case it would be awesome.
@MinuteMon
@MinuteMon 2 года назад
Between these two I really like where the SBGW289 is going
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
The case is really good 😊
@Number_006
@Number_006 2 года назад
Great video, thanks! These models are stunning.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks dude 👍
@marcgirard7551
@marcgirard7551 2 года назад
Excellent review! The green 277 for me for show. That is a spectacular line from GS and dress watches I wish I had
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
The color is so cool 😎
@simptrix007
@simptrix007 2 года назад
I would say micro artists are hostages only allowed to look out of the windows. Wouldnt be surprised if someone find call for help on rice paper with their new watch.
@livingtonu
@livingtonu 2 года назад
I got the 211 nickname the snowflake I love it. Beautiful watch
@storck08
@storck08 2 года назад
I like the SBGW277 but it's around twice the price of SBGW231 on chrono24 and it's essentially the same watch except the dial. I don't think the 277 is worth twice the price. For that amount I would look elsewhere (Glahutte Orginal Sixties maybe?). But the SBGW231 looks like a decent deal for a well designed and made watch.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
It's hard to argue with the value of the 231
@MegaFclef
@MegaFclef 2 года назад
I don’t think it’s worth twice the price either even though I own a W277. It’s LE of 140 pcs and it’s definitely worth more than the more common but equally beautiful W231 how much more well that depends on the buyer
@tarasmathers7423
@tarasmathers7423 2 года назад
To me, Grand Seiko, is awe inspiring. Thanks for sharing this. Great job, as usual. Cheers...
@jonabitstream
@jonabitstream 2 года назад
you're right about the missing micro adjust feature. Or, why doesn't GS off a clasp with some kind of ratchet adjustments?
@benkenobi6582
@benkenobi6582 2 года назад
I wish GS would fix their clasp issue. I’m not dropping big money on a luxury watch that doesn’t have on the fly adjustment
@TrashPandaMD
@TrashPandaMD 2 года назад
Tried the green dial last weekend, it was hard to put down along with the SBGA407
@henrywest7217
@henrywest7217 2 года назад
A little tongue in cheek I suppose. There're a lot of releases, but never a dog. They're not making many bad moves from my point of view.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Really true, they are taking over!
@eazye619
@eazye619 2 года назад
Looking forward to the new Porsche Design review you’re gonna do!
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
You got it!
@roddunne
@roddunne 2 года назад
Too many product lines ye say. Like in fishing, with several lines in the waters you stand a better chance of getting a nibble. They are testing the waters. Feeling out what geographic markets are drawn to (some nice US only editions recently). They could rest on their laurels and churn out 'Snowflake's. I'm glad they don't though - the creativity is to be admired. Do wish though they'd chuck creativity towards the adjustment options on the bracelet... removing/adding links with the miniature screw heads is like micro-tetris and not advisable while caffeinated.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Haha, they need to put some dial guys on the bracelet team 🤣
@Dondaddyh
@Dondaddyh 2 года назад
Hmm, like micro woodchip dials, not for me thanks, I tried the white birch at my local dealer and that’s amazing. Still ordered a Rolex Gmt, hopefully it will arrive one day!
@JuanSegarra-td6yr
@JuanSegarra-td6yr 15 дней назад
No glide on the fly. The leather strap should have deployments clasp. I don’t understand how they don’t care. To pay that kind of money
@tsma24
@tsma24 2 года назад
need more 36-38mm with bracelet watches. With nice dials like omiwatari etc
@brett2396
@brett2396 2 года назад
The 289 is almost perfect especially that it has a bracelet and 100m wr. Taper the bracelet, add micro adjustment and add a bunch of dial colors. I do think it’s a bit expensive though. I know an OP can’t be found new right now but the retail is less than this.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Yep, they are getting real close now!
@vincent67239
@vincent67239 2 года назад
Grand Seiko: “Oh, look! A bug!” Max: “Stay crunchy.”
@Mg_L.A.
@Mg_L.A. 2 года назад
Are grand seikos really worth it from the resale point of view. Thanks for any input give.
@leidetai5082
@leidetai5082 2 года назад
Both lovely watches if you could buy them. I wonder where all the special editions go? Certainly not to any dealer near me
@SoCalWatchReviews
@SoCalWatchReviews 2 года назад
Another great video Max 👏 I love GS!!
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks Miguel 👍😊
@jeravincer
@jeravincer 2 года назад
Great idea re Top Gun vid - some great pilots dials spotted …
@alunjones2550
@alunjones2550 2 года назад
They're competing against Rolex's on price but I personally think they're leagues ahead of even the trinity brands when it comes to their finishing. No other brand can withstand the scrutiny of a macro lens as well.
@pierremartin9048
@pierremartin9048 2 года назад
Good stuff, nice crunchy sweetness
@rashakor
@rashakor 2 года назад
I now need a watch which is inspired by the iridescence of Moose eyebrows during mating season!
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Haha, let me know when you find one!
@robdove8341
@robdove8341 2 года назад
I think the plethora of limited editions from GS is brilliant! Sooner or later they'll issue something that really hits the spot for individual buyers. Also, every cool GS ltd edition will always hold its value & likely appreciate, which makes them the smartest buy in today's watch market.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Yes that is definitely a strategy 👍. First world complaints 🤣
@munkeatphotography
@munkeatphotography 2 года назад
This is sooooo true. I am starting to like GS and their overdose releases and never ending limited editions are turning me off
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Yeah it's a bit much 😬
@toddallgier914
@toddallgier914 2 года назад
At some point I would really like to add a Grand Seiko to my collection. The problem is I have a very hard time finding and trying anything on. There are very few authorized dealers near Washington DC which kind of blows me away. There is one quite far away but they never seem to have anything that I've seen online or that I want. Mostly the problem is with the limited editions they don't make very many and they're easily available. I think they make an amazing watch, but GS is making it hard for me to love them....
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
That's the prob with limited editions 😞
@idid1866
@idid1866 2 года назад
On my7 list as well👍
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 2 года назад
I live in the DMV, Little Treasury Jewelers in Crofton always has a lot in stock and they were great to deal with when I frequented them. 35 min from D.C.
@toddallgier914
@toddallgier914 2 года назад
@@triniboy05 Thank you. Yes that is the dealer I have been going to. They're very nice there and I enjoy the store but the particular models I've been looking for they have not had in stock. I think even they have a hard time getting the in demand models. Have a great weekend.
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 2 года назад
@@toddallgier914 ah well I’d hoped I could have been of more assistance my friend. Happy hunting!
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann 2 года назад
Nice dial texture, but the rest is not quite there yet, especially at £4000.
@UltraDoug
@UltraDoug 2 года назад
Ahhh the Grand Seiko Insect. Inspired by the plentiful ants outside the GS studio. 🫤 Great vid. Moose eyebrows?! 😅
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Haha, they are out there with magnifying glass 😆
@UltraDoug
@UltraDoug 2 года назад
@@WatchCrunchOfficial 😂😂
@timelesssneakersandwatches
@timelesssneakersandwatches 2 года назад
I'll take both! I love what GS is DOING!!!!! GETS THE PEOPLE GOING!!! LOL
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Someone is excited 😆
@MrLadiesman216
@MrLadiesman216 2 года назад
They make superb watches but i’ve always found their philosophy to be a bit hokey.
@hamed_dxb
@hamed_dxb 2 года назад
Man beautiful dials i wish they have made it in 39mm as well
@m.e.p.r
@m.e.p.r 2 года назад
I completely agree, spot on. Grand Seiko and dare I say it, Omega, are guilty of this...too many similar releases clustered together. Really confusing to seasoned watch nerd, let alone the casual buyer. Great video as always 😊
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Cheers! Glad you enjoyed it 😁
@freedomfighter6549
@freedomfighter6549 2 года назад
I'm getting a little bored with GS at this point. Yeah, dials have different colors and textures but the cases all look the same and they look great under micro camera views, but, looking at them on wrist... in person...they are not that dramatic! Imho.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Yes they definitely have a more subtle aesthetic
@kevinmccalister8197
@kevinmccalister8197 2 года назад
As always, good video.
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks Kevin!
@hughcamp2730
@hughcamp2730 2 года назад
I like the fact they constantly change. No boring pedestrian design and colors like the usual suspects have done for decades. Like Harley Davidson, I wouldn't want to roll up to an event and everyone's ish looks the same. Grand Seiko continues to be new air.
@speed1281able
@speed1281able 2 года назад
That’s why I am 💯 out of GS. Too many limited edition etc
@Konsaliki
@Konsaliki 2 года назад
Very cool dials! Looks like handmade paper to me. Your macro photography really does them justice. 👍 BTW: Isn't it dauphine hands instead of "dolphin hands", Max?
@hambone988ubet
@hambone988ubet 2 года назад
Not sure, but I hear him say dauphine hands when I listened to it again?
@Konsaliki
@Konsaliki 2 года назад
@@hambone988ubet hm, now I'm not 100% sure either. 😅
@robdove8341
@robdove8341 2 года назад
@@Konsaliki wasn't it "dopamine hands"?😁
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
I said it on porpoise 🐬
@litan114
@litan114 2 года назад
Seiko has became very greedy and mass produced as much watches as possible. Look at Seiko 5 (collabs after collabs - look diff but inside is the same) haiiiyaaa Not to mention Seiko divers watches - samurai lar, sumo lar, turtle lar etc Grand Seiko is heading that way now As Nico said "Grand Seiko is just an expensive Seiko" I own 2 Seiko - 1 divers + 1 presarge - stop therre - end Seiko watch collection - thx! Good video btw :)
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
While I agree with you on the business side, it's hard to argue with the finishing on GS, it's much more than a more expensive Seiko even you get Close 😊
@emanuele20x
@emanuele20x 2 года назад
Love this. New sub
@WatchCrunchOfficial
@WatchCrunchOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks Emmanuel!
@idid1866
@idid1866 2 года назад
Not bad, good size too!
@sylinmino
@sylinmino 2 года назад
To address the weird pricing in the beginning of the video, it's actually simpler than you're making it out to be. The more expensive one comes on a bracelet and is a new dial pattern. The limited edition one comes on a strap.
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 2 года назад
The green on the SBGW277 dial mimics the US Dollars that their they will rake in thanks to their gimmicks and our short attention spans 🙃
@Vv20vV
@Vv20vV 2 года назад
The green dial is remarkable, I must have it! Thx 4 the video my guy..
@leonelreisborges5312
@leonelreisborges5312 2 года назад
12mm. That’s the problem. Doesn’t slide under the shirt.
@nikhilsai9613
@nikhilsai9613 2 года назад
That shade of pink is absolutely brilliant in the GS line. Unfortunately, though, it is too small. A shame that they did not stick with the usual 38/39 mm. That light pink in a SBGY line would be even better!
@ericcleesak8074
@ericcleesak8074 2 года назад
Seiko is miles ahead of the pack - the designers at Rolex are a yawn , and Omega has been comatose for years
@michaelphillips5263
@michaelphillips5263 2 года назад
". . foh-lee-age . ." ;-)
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens 2 года назад
Even at prices nearing equity, GS has so much more than Rolex. Except when it comes to bracelets. IMO Rolex sits lonely ar the top on that front. Don't manufacturers realise that the bracelet surrounds three times more of the wrist than any case? Taper that sh** and design gliding clasps for all bracelets of the world:) Some microbrands manage that for under 500$.
@dellwright1407
@dellwright1407 2 года назад
nice watches... expensive though and no date
@AldoFelt
@AldoFelt 2 года назад
walk outside...lol
@brianmckibben2300
@brianmckibben2300 2 года назад
Nice dial but the rest of the watch is not impressive. The 9 series movement is more quartz than mechanical. For the prices they ask regular Seiko is just as good. They use the spring drive to. So there is that.
@sreed556
@sreed556 2 года назад
Lol...see's a leaf...
@meritez6354
@meritez6354 2 года назад
It's just an expensive quartz mate. Don't blm this hard
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