Grandmasters and Engines Couldn't Solve This Puzzle. Then Came The Magician

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@judecatanyag6804 4 года назад

White: Call an ambulance *14 moves later* White: But not for me

@sidekick8983 4 года назад

Underrated the comment and the move

@rahulpanjwani5765 4 года назад

😂😂

@chessdawg2459 4 года назад

Only if white was Tal tho

@Rishi-nv7bp 4 года назад

Lmaoooo

@isaacquadros898 4 года назад

Best caption on this Channel

@praneethb8037 4 года назад

Black: Lol I'm going to get 4 queen's if you don't resign White: knights* Black: What?? White: Fasten your seatbelts

@vidlight 4 года назад

2 queens not 4

@nathanbates9561 4 года назад

@@vidlight He was talking about all of the black pawns queening rather than just the two that knighted.

@VishnuVardhan-bd4cz 4 года назад

🤣

@_Galexo 4 года назад

White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?

@عاشقایران-ه7ح 4 года назад

This puzzle has been called (( Georgian farmer)).

@ProwardGameplay 3 года назад

Of course Tal is the one to solve the puzzle where you have to sacrifice half of your remaining pieces while already heavily down in material to win the game.

@andromedasky4055 3 года назад

i search it and yes... Tal solve it... just amazing

@ashutoshkaushal8657 3 года назад

I was gonna comment the same thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

@stelixhyx808 3 года назад

Wheres your pfp from Proward?

@palbi 2 года назад

Tal's is such a beautiful chess mind. He lives deep in a dark forest in his head. Not much can survive there.

@psymar 2 года назад

@@andromedasky4055 well and also the title says "The Magician"; Tal was "The Magician of Riga"

@GLOKD 4 года назад

One of the most under-rated aspects of this channel is the perfect pronunciation of all the difficult Eastern names.

@episodex 4 года назад

Because he is from Eastern Europe? I was more surprised how he pronounced the Dutch name :).

@GLOKD 4 года назад

@@episodex Eastern Europe is not a monolithic bloc - it has many disparate languages and cultures.

@episodex 4 года назад

@@GLOKD I know. I'm from Eastern Europe :). But it's far easier for me to pronounce slavic names from other slavic countries than Dutch, German or Nordic ones. Dutch is especially tricky because G is pronounced as slavic H.

@GLOKD 4 года назад

@@episodex Good point.

@episodex 4 года назад

@@singingintherain4750 :D your names are impossible for us, Eastern Europeans haha. I work daily with Belgians, oh my it's awkward on calls sometimes when trying to mention someone...

@usamazaheer9194 4 года назад

*Reads the title "Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle"* *Me an intellectual and a weeb who only played 5 games of chess* : _"Alright I will give it a try"_

@OKANGUVEN99 4 года назад

Usama Zaheer well... did you succed?

@TheRaumin 4 года назад

@@OKANGUVEN99 It has only been a month, so he still has time ;)

@essem4979 4 года назад

I've watched Code Geass, so I should be able to solve this puzzle in 9 minutes

@glitch4010 4 года назад

@@essem4979 solved it in 10 seconds, ez, saw immediately that the king was the key to the puzzle. 👑

@Delacroix0402 4 года назад

@@glitch4010 this fits so perfectly to the comment above hahaha. Ur pfp is fucking Lelouch

@jeffreyjohnson7359 3 года назад

I'm proud of myself, I guessed the first move!

@patrickinocencio2305 3 года назад

Yeah me too

@ethand.5937 3 года назад

Same!

@FabianMiii 3 года назад

I guessed first 4

@ilikeanimals5015 3 года назад

@@FabianMiii bro nice

@decafcoffee0935 3 года назад

Ugh I though bc2

@vignjev8332 4 года назад

Imagine how badass you are if you come as journalist to tournament end up playing it and finishing 6th

@3vimages471 4 года назад

But he is Tal.

@andrewptob 4 года назад

And then solving this puzzle

@nephronpie8961 4 года назад

@@andrewptob But then again, he is Tal.

@fadzlyhaqimi9603 4 года назад

@@3vimages471 and he's not in his prime at this time

@subhajitsupakar5957 4 года назад

@@fadzlyhaqimi9603but for the last time he was Tal

@Jackamono 4 года назад

I think he’s slowly becoming a chess piece

@uzumakinaruto3628 3 года назад

Or the game itself

@sufiana925 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣

@thomaspickles1630 3 года назад

Most underrated RU-vid comment of the year.

@shanybiran468 3 года назад

Bishop! Look at that hair

@ed13sfeir 3 года назад

That made me laugh for 4 minutes straight lol

@ethan2123 3 года назад

I can’t wait to show this puzzle to my friends at the bar/library

@deepjyotipandit7840 3 года назад

I see what you did there. Lol

@og8263 3 года назад

I guess you can wait

@hytf2797 3 года назад

You mean the LiBARy?

@bait5257 3 года назад

I didn't get this

@urallnoobs8943 3 года назад

@@bait5257 Watch the video where he explains the meaning of Agadmator

@philipwilson46 4 года назад

There was a Queen Sac involved - Of course Tal would find the solution!

@nelmarroda8074 4 года назад

Lmao

@athilesh 4 года назад

@@nelmarroda8074 VERY TRUE

@DJHastingsFeverPitch 4 года назад

ROFL

@magnafire1 4 года назад

I know it's a joke but he did find the solution after walking away talking to himself. Lol. TAL: I know you want the queen sac self, but no matter how bad you want to get rid of her, the mate is going to have to be with the bishop if you want to crack it.

@magnafire1 4 года назад

Then he comes to his senses and comes back with a disturbed grin on his face and says, I'm going to let her live. I found the solution.

@nikosandrianopoulos4185 3 года назад

Bishop : "can someone stop spawning these damn horses so I can do my job?"

@-petrichor-7263 3 года назад

Black:NOPE

@JohnPaulBuce 3 года назад

stop horsing around please

@thegirrafe2828 3 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@kennethonwuachu6372 3 года назад

Still laughing 😅🤣😂😆

@verifiedgentlemanbug 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣

@chroma2992 3 года назад

His hair really said: “ ^ “

@Winnersneverquit19 3 года назад

Lmao😂🤣

@revimfadli4666 3 года назад

Jimmy Neutron's hair in the cartoon: 🍦 Jimmy's hair IRL:

@BobJones-bh9qz 3 года назад

__^ __ (• - •)

@daviddiaz3771 3 года назад

Rocking that bishop haircut

@hanihani9029 3 года назад

@@daviddiaz3771 LMFAO

@PushyPawn 4 года назад

I think more credit for this puzzle goes to the composer. Ok, solving this is hard but who can come up with such a thing?

@deeptangakalita3328 4 года назад

Do you wanna live forever?

@danieldenizman7790 4 года назад

yeah, amazing creativity

@cerievans4099 4 года назад

My guess in the the composer started with the end position and worked backwards to arrive at the starting position. It still doesn't detract from his ingenuity.

@yourlifetrulymatters 4 года назад

Epic Mann.

@Pascal-md9os 4 года назад

Gijs van Breukeln can

@RamiroBrandan 4 года назад

White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?

@GreyWind 4 года назад

lmao

@koolaidjerk 4 года назад

Sorry to be that guy, but it isn't mate in 14 necessarily because black does not have to follow that sequence of plays. There were possible lines from black that let white get a queen that doesn't lose the game this way that could take longer than 14 moves.

@elviejohg744 4 года назад

@@koolaidjerk I'm a chess beginner, can you tell me why this is the solution to the puzzle if there are another set of moves that will make it last longer? How do they know they reached the solution?

@koolaidjerk 4 года назад

@@elviejohg744 With two good players, if white gets a queen they will win basically 100% of the time. So to prevent that black has to play the way described in the video, which results in the mate in 14 sequence. However, if black just lets white get the queen white will be massively ahead, but it could take longer than 14 moves to get the checkmate.

@ILoveHuskies1 4 года назад

@@koolaidjerk Couldn't you just move up blacks pawns so that black also has at least one queen to work with and more overall pieces?

@arcadiotorres4964 3 года назад

Engines- Nobody will solve this Tal- So I took that personally

@rdanimetalks7964 3 года назад

Underrated Comment!!

@sudiptadey8070 2 года назад

He was a once in a while talent..crafted by the GOD of chess himself..no one will ever come close to him

@noticeboard249 2 года назад

Tal- I am Nobody.

@fsrodeo81 2 года назад

Agadmator:" I give you few seconds to solve this"

@Star17Platinum17 Год назад

I am a nobody

@boomjonggol5757 4 года назад

Tal, dammit, solving this without a board.

@Scientist93 4 года назад

It is uncanny... such amounts of brain power all but baffle me. It'd take me a really long time to get my visualisation to a similar level, making me question if it'd be worth it to begin with.

@alexandresilva3427 4 года назад

@@Scientist93 Depends if you want to play chess professionally or not.

@plumpistrumpi 4 года назад

@@alexandresilva3427 It is not a matter of will, it is a matter of natural disposition. You can train visualization a little bit, but there is no training that can compensate a lack of natural disposition when it comes to complex blindfold calculation. You were born with it.

@BobbyFischer64 4 года назад

@@plumpistrumpi this is the dumbest thing ever. 'Natural Disposition"

@snmss5919 4 года назад

@@human7491 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CW0wFS0UlcY.html

@Bcutter 4 года назад

I haven’t played chess other than a few games with my dad when I was a kid. Yet I must have watched at least a hundred of your videos. You are an excellent commentator and you really manage to make the game interesting even to someone who don’t know the game other than the rules. I just took the step to start playing chess. It’s 5% thanks to Magnus Carlsen and how fascinated I am of his skill, but it’s 95% thanks to you and your awesome videos. Keep it up!

@agadmator 4 года назад

Thanks man. Appreciate it

@busterlee8438 4 года назад

I can second that story. My dad taught me to play as a kid but I never heard of a chess club or knew "openings" and endgames. Years later I wanted to teach my son to play and looked to youtube for a refresher lesson. I found the St. Louis chess Club channel and this was in the recommendations. Ive been binge watching for over a year now. The AI chess is really great. Whats happening with Leela chess 0 and the google brain? I also really enjoy the history series. Gotta watch them all again. Thank You.

@nicholaschileshe4987 4 года назад

@@busterlee8438 Leela is currently playing TCEC season 17 and she is currently doing fine. Won a number of games with 0 loses and that's excellent performance.

@theazrael4423 4 года назад

Welcome brother, that's the beauty of the game, all you need to know to enjoy these videos are the rules and yes he is one of the best commentators, I am sure there are many great commentators out there but I watch mostly 3, Agadmator, Mato Jelic, and Kevin from the chess website. I was taught when I was 12 yrs old by a Jamaican candidate master David Nichols in 1980. He gave me J.R. Capablanca's book, The fundamentals of chess. I'm not much good at the game but like you, I love the videos.

@syddenna6437 4 года назад

Couldn't have said it better myself!😅

@caspera3193 3 года назад

Just imagine what an upset this puzzle would cause if this position would be reached in an actual game.

@dallaswood4117 3 года назад

i was wondering that, it's one thing to throw the pieces out there and call it a puzzle, but what in an actual game would or could lead to this scenario

@vikraal6974 3 года назад

Remember Tal took time to solve it

@aleks-lj9yq 3 года назад

@@vikraal6974 he solved it very fast

@vikraal6974 3 года назад

@@aleks-lj9yq no check the video, he didn't solve it instantly

@kurtzipagan6704 3 года назад

@@vikraal6974 yeah,10min in the room,then left and go for a walk for 15min,so it's total 25min think

@ijirving 4 года назад

Chess engines and grandmasters can't solve it eh, let me just pause the video so i can....why do I even try...

@jakadajakada6939 4 года назад

Ikr. Ain't no way I'm gonna try

@AA-tt7fl 4 года назад

I did the same 😂😂😂😂😂

@snmss5919 4 года назад

@@AA-tt7fl ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CW0wFS0UlcY.html

@kat78681 4 года назад

Exactly! Pressed 'pause', thought 'Am I arrogant enough?', pressed 'play' immediately.

@seligfykspert9387 4 года назад

There is a crucial difference between "analyzing a random position for evaluation purposes" and "solving a white-winning puzzle". That applies to humans and machines. I think that would one insert this position into a machine as a puzzle, it would probably get the solution quickly.

@sanidhyapratapsingh4952 4 года назад

I feel dumb after I think that Tal saw all this in his mind.

@renceilaya3562 3 года назад

Agadmator: "it's white to play and to win" Me: "Wait.. is the white going upwards or downwards???" 😅

@iljadendiesich816 3 года назад

Tip: watch were a1 is. A1 buttom left= white moving up, a1 upper right=white moving down

@renceilaya3562 3 года назад

@@iljadendiesich816 thanks! I'm just starting in chess, I'll keep that in mind 😊

@yewtubez 3 года назад

lol took me a minute to realise the A1 squares

@angelgodplace 3 года назад

You always see the board going up.

@leadnitrate2194 3 года назад

@@ronanthony5654 thankfully, we're not training to become world champions so we can enjoy this beautiful puzzle

@lordstinson8095 4 года назад

I wanna know what Tal was smoking.

@EGarrett01 4 года назад

Patzers.

@kievmoores3093 4 года назад

Everett01 lmao

@HexxuSz 4 года назад

You can not handle it

@oumarkk3572 4 года назад

I was thinking the same thing😂

@niiadam4426 4 года назад

😂😂

@michaelkaczmarski2938 4 года назад

I've been solving chess puzzles since 1969. This is the most amazing, intricate puzzle that I've ever seen. Thank you for showing this rare gem, Agad!

@pickledirick8338 4 года назад

Surely over the span of 50 years you’ve come across this puzzle before? I have multiple times just by searching for difficult chess puzzles online.

@silentoccasion4359 4 года назад

Pickled IRick he probably did. I think he had everyone else in mind when he said what he said

@priyanshgautam9971 3 года назад

I've been seeing Chess puzzles for about 6 months and already seen this puzzle several times

@priyanshgautam9971 3 года назад

@Luis Delgado Lol 🤦u are soo

@annaapple3249 3 года назад

@@priyanshgautam9971 You’re a dark brown Indian. Why are you using a blonde emoji?

@satrickptar6265 3 года назад

"How many knights do you want? Black: Yes

@99sasanka 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@CristianML40 3 года назад

😂

@kupono94 4 года назад

Tal takes a walk, figures that the bishop needs also needs to take a walk xp

@slavdef 4 года назад

The tragedy of a puzzle like this is that anyone good enough to solve it would never find themselves in such a position.

@whitneyrideout4553 4 года назад

Yes its cruel cruel world 😢

@user-zb8tq5pr4x 3 года назад

That's not the point of puzzles anyway

@thelostusername5013 3 года назад

Excuse my ignorance I'm not very good at chess but at 7:46. Could you not move the pawn to g4 and end the game sooner

@Soul-ex8gb 3 года назад

@@thelostusername5013 You'd make the king move to H4 as the pawn is no longer covering it

@thelostusername5013 3 года назад

@@Soul-ex8gb good point

@sesh8606 3 года назад

He solved this incredibly complex puzzle when not even looking at the board? i swear these top GMs are superhuman

@ppmpyae1152 3 года назад

He had alphazero in the sky.

@VylinJanKranBlanMichal 3 года назад

Tal was looking at the ceiling

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 2 года назад

I just ran it through stockfish 14 and it looks like black can actually refute this with Ba5

@SarveshParakh 2 года назад

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 at what point? There is no time to play that move.

@jackkenefick2696 2 года назад

cloud formations

@OMC_Escher 4 года назад

8:37 ah yes the classical four knights open- I mean end game

@phil10p_ 4 года назад

😂

@Baitoss 4 года назад

2:01 How is nobody talking about the guy just standing on the table?

@stickmedia5691 4 года назад

Bruhhhh. I didn't even notice

@75w26__ 4 года назад

That's actually a ghost

@Cnut_the_grape 4 года назад

He just vibin'

@Lgg130 4 года назад

Clearly the puzzle creator

@spiraldj 4 года назад

Probably a camera man getting an ariel view of the game

@Goshaughnessy 2 года назад

That puzzle was a work of art. Solved by another artist. I love that Tal solved it after going for a walk No engines, just inspiration

@scarbo2229 2 года назад

Yeah, good to see a win for The Human. We need one.

@itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 4 года назад

0:00 Hello everyone 3:50 agadmator.exe has stopped working 9:46 Friends at the bar and the library

@adnan4688 4 года назад

So this is becoming a thing...

@guscox9651 4 года назад

instructions unclear, broke into the bar and library but no one there said "hello everyone" because they were in isolation.

@apaajaboleh104 4 года назад

The bar and the library are closed.

@weimergabriel 4 года назад

this is too good.

@kahwigulum 4 года назад

@@apaajaboleh104 Sorry about that.

4 года назад

It's crazy, I'm using Lichess Stockfish 11+ WASMX, depth 58 and still, the engine can't spot the move!

@duffin3503 4 года назад

How does this work? Doesn’t depth 58 mean that it has mapped out every possible move for the next 58 possible turns? How can it not spot the move?

4 года назад

@@duffin3503 no, no. Engines rely heavy in euristics to cut out most of the useless moves. But in some cases it endup cutting lines that shouldn't, because engine thinks it's a bad line and doesn't worth analysing it.

@OKMX5 4 года назад

@@duffin3503 due to exponential complexity it's completely impossible to calculate every possible move into such depth. If engines were calculating every possible line they could think only few moves ahead.

@DanielHatchman 4 года назад

That's crazy that a computee can't see it.

@turkiyett0928 4 года назад

Engine can solve this puzzle in 2 seconds (multi threat)

@chinmaykabi 3 года назад

Who other than Tal to solve such a puzzle. Poetic justice

@oskain Год назад

bro think he kendrick lamar 💀

@MichaelKnight-y8m 11 месяцев назад

@chinmaykabi Gijs Van Breukelen entered the chat.

@marcjohn9404 4 года назад

Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish: *Agrees* *Mikhail Tal has entered the chat*

@vignanmullapudi2950 4 года назад

Engines and GMs left.

@-zelda- 3 года назад

Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish 14: *Disagrees*

@jeesusmeesuss5247 4 года назад

Found the first two moves, however I never would have been able to solve it.

@happyhourstogether6060 4 года назад

Timmy Fay i found first 3 moves

@ActComplicated 4 года назад

Timmy Fay Yeah I found the solution the the first couple of lines shown. It’s the last line that is the point of the puzzle I believe.

@happyhourstogether6060 4 года назад

Act Complicated yeah dam that gansta bishop slicing everywhere

@dayanandsahu6683 4 года назад

I completed this puzzle on my CT-ART 6 on first try... I am 1600.... Am I the Magician? Of course NOT

@dakotatiger2009 4 года назад

@@dayanandsahu6683 Nah just a really bad liar.

@naina62 3 года назад

*grandmasters and engines couldn't solve this puzzle *tal : hold my bishop

@mandyrarsh7137 4 года назад

To those of you who came back in a month or two after solving this... I don't believe you❤

@guscox9651 4 года назад

i literally cant decide whether or not to stay and watch the solution or not

@Dario19503 4 года назад

I found the first few moves on my own and later the engine found the mating sequence.

@snmss5919 4 года назад

@@Dario19503 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CW0wFS0UlcY.html

@meepogeomancer7552 4 года назад

I did solve this

@shezacuber6092 4 года назад

@@meepogeomancer7552 mee too but it took like 15 mins to find a way to force black's king into the position then it was easier to mate him.Maybe i way just lucky and spot it quickly

@duchi882 4 года назад

It would be interesting to see if AlphaZero can solve this. That Bishop just went all over the Board trying to preach word of God and the Four Knights be like: BEGONE! 😅

@arturolopez9289 4 года назад

Man of God vs Four Horseman might be called the solution 🤣

@soumyadeepdas3239 4 года назад

Leela chess zero on my machine solved it after taking some time.

@ghotrix 4 года назад

@@soumyadeepdas3239 it solved it for me almost instantly

@ghotrix 4 года назад

@Abhishek Shukla It's big misconception that Leela learns from every game you play with her, it's physically not possible. It learns only from games she plays with herself on contributors machines. More on that here: github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/wiki/Getting-Started

@SuperAWaC 4 года назад

lc0 also solved this instantly on my pc. i think having difficulty solving this is just a quirk of the way a/b engines search. but it is proof that a/b engines are not all powerful, they are faking it through brute force.

@joseprotacii4144 3 года назад

Maybe when Tal went out and took a walk.. he take a few of those Beth Harmon's pills. Then came back and look at the ceiling......😅😅😅

@patrickinocencio2305 3 года назад

Yeah that what he does

@iaber1698 3 года назад

Beth who?

@Negs42 3 года назад

Who's Beth Harmon?

@wateronabridge5241 3 года назад

@@Negs42 A character in the TV series : Queens Gambit. Its about chess ( a litle bit ;)

@Negs42 3 года назад

@@wateronabridge5241 Aha I see..I definitely need to check it out if it's chess.

@Puschit1 4 года назад

It's now decided: Tal is officially my favourite chess player now!

@Meddimehell 4 года назад

Tal is EVERYONES favourite mate :) Together with Fischer, Carlsen and Anand, for my part though. Those four have just meant a lot for me in my time as a chess-enthusiast.

@Puschit1 4 года назад

@@Meddimehell My follow-ups would be Morphy, Capablanca and Petrosian, though.

@nausadulabedinrifat7498 4 года назад

Carlsen was my favourite.But after watching tal I realised the beauty of chess.No wonder why he was called the magician.

@JohnSmith-wl2pd 4 года назад

@@nausadulabedinrifat7498 same here. Mine was Kasparov, but after watching Tal, I couldn't see chess in the same way anymore. As you correctly said I realized the beauty of it. It's not about how strong a player is. It's about the magic. And there is only one magician. The one from Riga...

@thunderball11111 3 года назад

Ivanchuk, tal, Barnes and Anderson are mine so far. I just love the crazier plays and the positional attacks.

@joncleek5406 4 года назад

5:16 "and for those of you who came back after you solved it, congrats" Did I mention lichess and chesscom can't solve it? Good luck!

@tylerghloe4803 3 года назад

solved!!!! :)

@ajinkyakulkarni8109 3 года назад

Solved

@showanimamian5248 3 года назад

I read this puzzle in 1991 in a chess magazine, I also read that Tal shouted "this is unbelievable!" when he saw the solution.

@sattkrit_pathak Год назад

he did't saw the solution he solved it

@oWallis 4 года назад

Black: I have 4 knights! White: We have a Hulk (Bishop)

@Rezzi8 4 года назад

It's actually black that has 4 knights

@timsvideosallsfw2570 4 года назад

Not a Hulk ... use The Blues Brothers line ... we're on a mission, a mission from God.

@ChessMasteryOfficial 4 года назад

If your opponent offers you a draw, try to work out why he thinks he’s worse off.

@anonym3967 4 года назад

I used to offer draws when up a pawn in the opening against higher rated players on lichess, because I did not want to risk my free rating with possible blunders in the future.. and still this is my main reason to offer draws, if a position seems complicated I don't want to risk blundering it, offering a draw despite knowing that you are losing seems kinda rude tbh.

@nirrrvana88 4 года назад

I was once offered a draw in a 3 days/move correspondence game. He was arguing that he has no time left to play the game as he has been sentenced to prison. I thought it funny,but in the end accepted the draw offer. I looked up better afterwards. Turns out he was losing a piece lmao.

@kallemaki-hokkonen4850 4 года назад

@@nirrrvana88 Why didnt he just engine the moves and win ez

@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 4 года назад

@@nirrrvana88 Prison? Yup, that guys probably better than you now. That's all they have in prison is chess lol

@TSgitaar 4 года назад

So if you want your opponent to accept your draw offer, make sure that you are slightly better. I find it lame to offer a draw when I am considerably worse.

@qolumbia3536 3 года назад

Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle Me: *Immediately starts to try and solve it*

@woodfinchcrafts7267 3 года назад

You:looks at solution after several years

@CristianML40 3 года назад

😂

@pain6797 4 года назад

GMs and Engines: *my pfp* Tal: so anyway, I started solving

@anandasatria7734 4 года назад

Wtf lol

@doggojo7148 3 года назад

MY PAIN IS STILL FAR GREATER THAN YOUUURRRRRSSSS

@1988ryan1 3 года назад

Engines: move 4: black obviously goes king g4, not even suggesting knight f7 because it's literally the worst move on the board... Tal and GMs: so anyway, lets ignore that and pretend forking the queen/king is better so we get a checkmate in 13...

@mengekyosyaringanKamui 3 года назад

🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@rahulchoudhury4956 4 года назад

Oh Tal !!! There is Kasparov,karpov,booby, anand,magnus,..... But Mikhail Tal his attacking style.. his sacking pieces, oh is brilliant mind . There will never be another Tal

@vinayyadav1757 2 года назад

Booby 😂 good one

@shweta8269 2 года назад

😂😂😂😂

@zebrapaint640 2 года назад

Yes bro tal is the only King

@scottrackley4457 2 года назад

If you like Tal, and who doesn't, check out Ljubojević's games. He comes up with some devilish attacks.

@phoenixshade3 3 года назад

This is a great puzzle. It looks like the engines fall victim to overzealous tree pruning.

@numbdigger9552 3 года назад

wonder what alphazero would think of this...

@severnkariuki9129 3 года назад

Engines probably overrate material for better chances in most games.

@phoenixshade3 3 года назад

@@severnkariuki9129 That they do, especially when there are no immediate tactics... but in this case, nearly every underpromotion involves or creates a tactical situation. That's why I'd tend to favor a tree-pruning explanation over a material one, in this case.

@severnkariuki9129 3 года назад

@@phoenixshade3 yes, they prune the tree but due to material. I think they ignore any continuation after knight and queen sac with checks(forcing move) and assume that variation leads nowhere. Little do they know the king, bishop and pawn is all that is necessary here. I believe they do not see how black is helpless with dim knights on almost the worst squares possible like Tal probably did. Alphazero might have seen this.

@antyteista 4 года назад

These are insane puzzle. One genius created them, another genius solved them. I'm not surprised it was Tal. Only he could see this tactical insanity in his head. Nobody else.

@tomarts774 4 года назад

That feeling when you spend 5 minutes of the video trying to solve the puzzle and then you realise that you were looking at the board as if it was flipped ... I thought it was strange for the puzzle to start as white king is checked by the pawn. I may not be the best chess player material afterall Lol

@gerardopadua 4 года назад

Correct king checked by a pawn

@artfuldodger5698 4 года назад

I thought so but then i looked at the alphabets on the bottom and those numbers on the left and figured out.

@DoctorX149 4 года назад

white to play and win.. bruh lol

@tomarts774 4 года назад

@@DoctorX149 well yes ... he says that after 5 minutes of explaining the history behind the puzzle. Also as others have mentioned the board has numbers on it, which clearly indicate that I'm not the brightest.

@zedknows8391 3 года назад

This proves once again that Tal is the greatest player of all time.

@thealgeriantank2587 4 года назад

Well. This puzzle should've been called "The Stable Puzzle" if you know what I mean!

@threethrushes 4 года назад

NaaaAAaaay.

@divy1962 4 года назад

"The crusade"

@sunderraj3917 4 года назад

Tal: while walking : just opened youtube from his mobile and went Agamator's channel to check whether Agamator posted the solution for the problem which he was gonna present. Bcs Tal calculated every move in the future so he might knew Agamator gonna post this video.. 😂

@nisarg411 4 года назад

@God-zg6so 4 года назад

😂

@aradhyamn6950 4 года назад

Awesome 😅😅😅😅

@krishnak.r3927 3 года назад

I used the Stockfish engine on lichess and while watching the video and it was at 6:58 that when I played Bc2+ the level went up to +4.8 for white. This was the winning move that the engine could not spot that Tal could. Before I played this move, the level was at -5.2. Very interesting observation. Also, at 7:12, instead of playing Nf7+, the engine recommends to play Kg4 instead as it avoids the unstoppable mate in 11. I let the engine play itself and the game subsequently ends with white winning after exactly 30 moves after Kg4.

@pulguinha682 3 года назад

Only engine I could solve this with was Stockfish 14, but that's just overkill

@arnavagrawal895 2 года назад

Dude the engines have analysed this puzzle as it has been years .

@mrsommer84 2 года назад

Best comment

@jiwsz 4 года назад

Man, that was a satisfying puzzle!

@r3e511 4 года назад

I feel guilty for not even trying to solve the puzzle

@johnwamsley1896 4 года назад

4 chimps could learn to sing the Star Spangled Banner in 4 part harmony before I could find the solution

@memegazer 4 года назад

I did not try properly but I don't feel guilty because the show was so enjoyable.

@MrVvulf 4 года назад

"I am philosophical about my dumbness" - to paraphrase Patrice O'Neal. I just accept that I enjoy marveling at chess masters and that I'll never come close to being one. I'm fine with this. For me it's no different than watching NBA highlights - purely to enjoy what some humans can do. Sure, I can hit a layup or even a 3 pointer, but no matter how hard I practice, I'll never dunk from the free throw line.

@shayanpoordian5986 4 года назад

I felt guilty for trying it as if i can solve it in 2 mins

@mgm.al3mry 4 года назад

@@MrVvulf Mr. P 😭❤️

@lilacdoe7945 3 года назад

An engine cannot solve it... AlphaGo "challenge accepted"

@robinsuj 3 года назад

I don't think AlphaZero classifies as an engine

@jacknugent4324 3 года назад

did u say alpha go

@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n 3 года назад

AlphaGo?

@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 года назад

6:47 -- The reason engines (at least those that are set to not examine more than five lines simultaneously) cannot solve the puzzle is because they will not consider the Bc2+ line after Kg6, because it results in White being down two pieces (after Kxh5), and subject to forfeiting any new queen. However, if Bc2+ is manually played, then the engine finds the solution at Depth25. It used to be possible to adjust the settings on Chess(dot)com to have the engine examine ten lines simultaneously, but this was reduced to five maximum some half a year ago, with three being current default. (Low-grade cheaters using default-setting online engines will almost never be given the best moves in "hard" positions in any reasonable amount of time, say, as for Blitz.)

@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 года назад

Furthermore, following d8=Q, after the engine finally discards Nf7+ (because it finds that this plus capturing the forked queen next turn results in White's king bottling up Black's with checkmate to follow), the engine will calculate endlessly without finding a forced mate for White even though it grants a rating of +8 fairly quickly. With Black refraining from the knight fork, he plays Kg4 instead, and will inevitably seize White's last pawn on g3, after which the material situation is White's queen versus Black's two knights and four pawns in an opposite-colored bishop game -- and Black is capable of lingering on for quite some time after that. With humans playing, it would be quite easy for White to blunder and lose tempo, enabling Black to queen a pawn and win.

@sin2Pi 4 года назад

I found that although initial evaluation by Stockfish (both versions 8, 11 installed on my laptop with 10 threads) went for Black, both versions checkmated black when played against each other (v11 against itself, v8 W vs v11 B). I haven't investigated the details yet, but thought that Agadmator should have proceeded w/ solving the puzzle w/ Stockfish regardless of initial eval. Chess evaluation can be a bit chaotic for some positions, I think this is just one of these instances.

@bezzlebedeviled4756 4 года назад

@@sin2Pi ...they'll only find checkmate if your engine has enough lines such that Bc2 can make the "cut" for consideration, or if you manually fork king and queen with the knight. The position is strongly winning for White with correct play after Black eschew knight-forking, but it is very difficult for White to run a queen against two knights and four extra pawns with bishops still the board; i.e., Black has a lot of "action economy". It's basically a Magnus-style grind to defeat Black, with the first misstep costing you your advantage, and a second enabling Black to queen and easily win with his material advantage -- as he'll quickly have a second queen.)

@iliillillilli2991 4 года назад

I tried it in leela and stpckfish they failed but i thought because the engine prunes these moves what if i use an engine that prunes less, or annolder engine so i got rybka which is pretty old and it actually found the move being +3.66 for white at depth 25, but found the move instantly. Im guessing it has something to do with rybka not pruning the moves as early so it found it.

@mohamedhusam8189 4 года назад

Me: pausing video at after seeing the position then after solving the position finding that black is winning then checking engine and it agrees Me: becomes very happy to get that one Agadmator:it's white to move and win Me: you must be joking

@Postermaestro 4 года назад

? the puzzle is to solve white winning

@DodgyDan4 4 года назад

@@Postermaestro It was a joke

@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 3 года назад

Knights of the Square Table would be a good name for this puzzle..

@axemtitanium 3 года назад

Sadly that would be a hint for solving it.

@aquapony 3 года назад

@@axemtitanium Yeah, after I read this comment I solved it in 5 minutes

@Royale9 4 года назад

2:14 I replayed that at least 10 times.

@scottpowell4342 3 года назад

Did you notice that one of Kasparov's wins is missing?

@ujwalbharti3386 3 года назад

Same here

@priyanshuranjan5225 3 года назад

why you didn't just paused it ?

@ujwalbharti3386 3 года назад

@@priyanshuranjan5225 he's trying to understand the game bro I know he could have paused but it's his choice 😂

@priyanshuranjan5225 3 года назад

@@ujwalbharti3386 true lol

@mcfluffy8154 3 года назад

I guessed the first move and im only rated 900 take that grandmasters.

@paulcoe7511 4 года назад

It's at times like these I wonder ... "What would alpha zero do?"

@tonym2513 4 года назад

Paul Coe Leela would check mate in 3, hack a Jimmy Johns web page, and then stare at you smugly from behind the now delivered sandwich that she can’t even eat.

@sarainiaangelsong440 4 года назад

Thing with " Alpha Zero " is it's neither a Human, nor an Engine, it instead is a Neural Net, meaning there is chances in it's hidden layers that it recognizes complex patterns! It already crushes all Humans and Engines, so I would say without a doubt it likely would solve it! Simply due to most of it's moves to begin with no engine or human has been able to compete with it's final form and win! The better question would be if one day " Leela Chess Zero " a new neural network they are working on would be able to solve this, cuz Alpha Zero likely just would due to mass pattern recognitions and a Mate in 14 for a Neural net that has that to back it up is strongly likely to spot and realize the winning sequence of moves, hidden layers are simply biases/weights it shifts around, I'm certain it has experimented in all it's self plays turning a pawn into other pieces that are not just Queens and also prolly has tinkered with the idea to force an opponent to grab a Knight over a Queen, so I'm sure those games do exist, and besides the way it thinks would be closer to how humans would solve rather than brute force that engines do all the time, thus why engines are only able to get to a certain level of strength before they plateau, whereas a neural network with the correct amount of nodes to keep learning will develop super god human and super god engine tactics! :)

@iliillillilli2991 4 года назад

Funny thing is the old engine rybka immdeitally found it somehow, i guess it has something to do with less move pruning because stockfish ignores moves it thinks are bad to search faster. I even tried leela and they all failed but somehow the old engine rybka solved it

@sarainiaangelsong440 4 года назад

@@iliillillilli2991 Yeah interesting... maybe then what engines should do is split itself to run 2 runs of itself, hear me out on this so at exact same time can prune as one process and another makes on the spot clone of itself but doesn't prune so that way 2 processes at same time and then that might be just the trick huh? So in the case of old rybka and new not sure if new prunes but if it does, then same thing but no prune and run them side by side as 2 separate thingies so in Arena for example it would look like 2 engines analyzing at same time type of effect, I'm bad at explaining my thoughts at times but that my guess :)

@samgrattan5465 3 года назад

I guess this would be “four knights ending” lol

@jasonisrael8849 3 года назад

I love that Agadmator couldn’t keep a straight face when announcing the fourth knight. Great puzzle & video

@j.flux87 4 года назад

Amazing. Proof that humans _can_ be superior to engines. This was beautiful, thank you.

@notgarvit 4 года назад

Justin Flynn Only one human.

@James-dg6xe 4 года назад

@@notgarvit his name? albert einstein

@danielrb8 4 года назад

I see your point. But I think that, in cases like puzzles with that complexity, humans who try to solve have an advantage against computers, and that is imagining why certain pieces are present in the puzzle. I will use the knight on a6 as an example: the person who is solving could imagine this knight has a pourpose for black in defending the position (and it has indeed), but the computer will never make this assumption when evaluating the position, because it works in a purely objective way. So these assumptions are very common in puzzles like this, and create an advantage for the human over the machine. But, of course, it doesn't take away the brilliancy of solving such an incredibly hard puzzle.

@ryanturner8577 4 года назад

There is no algorithm for experience and wisdom.

@TheFreebomb 4 года назад

Yet.

@MrSmith-on1qz 3 года назад

I’ve played about 30k games. I could have never solved this puzzle. It’s just a game, but It reminds me of what my teacher’s use to tell me after I stated “when would I use trigonometry in day to day life” and their response “it helps expand your mind”.

@KnowThyself619 4 года назад

Thank you so much Agadmator!! After studying all the games from the world chess championship 1972 on your channel, i have defeated both my dad and my older brother which was not possible before. Although defeating them doesn't get me any certificate or title, it's still a big achievement for me and I'm proud of it.

@mutigaben2038 4 года назад

Good Job

@KnowThyself619 4 года назад

@@mutigaben2038 thank you!! It took me long but i finally did it haha.

@peanutandbutterdachshund6916 4 года назад

Well carlsen's initial goal was to defeat his sister, but ok

@OzymandiasSaysHi 4 года назад

You SHOULD be proud! Well done!

@johnnyspousta3136 4 года назад

The first time I've seen this puzzle was during a lecture by Czech grandmaster Vlastimil Hort. He accompanied it with a great story. He was in Riga in Tal's house and both of the gentlemen were waking up. They shared some drinks and Tal's wife brought them some sandwiches. It was a happy occasion since Tal's daughter (I believe) was allowed to a musical conservatory. And since it was time to celebrate, what better way to start your day there is than to show this masterpiece of a puzzle. And thanks to you, Antonio, it finally makes sense why it was Tal who was showing it. Chess flexing at its best :D

@betaneptune 3 года назад

Till now I thought the only reason not to pick a queen when "queening" was to avoid a stalemate. Not so! What an incredible puzzle. Just increasing awe the whole way through. Well done! Thank you, agadmator! Wow.

@abhi_shek1196 4 года назад

When I heard(read) the magician in the title I with all my heart thought of Tal because Tal was and will always be the magician and will rule my heart to my last breathe

@elpepe8285 4 года назад

That's so gay

@abhi_shek1196 4 года назад

@@elpepe8285 Hey! That is mean okay. Get lost

@elpepe8285 4 года назад

@@abhi_shek1196 Okay gay

@DoomerMusic69 4 года назад

Agadmator: This is the best puzzle that I have ever seen! Suren: DEJA VU.

@gabe2349 3 года назад

Interestingly, after the d8 promotion, the engine recommends king g4. It does now say that white is much better, but I think it prevents the checkmate combination.

@danielhoang289 Год назад

Right, what makes this puzzle great is that forking the King+Queen isn't the best move. However, since it is the human instinct move to play, it's still remarkable to see how it is beaten

@Mister_Eiffel 3 года назад

I didn't really try to solve the puzzle, but I kinda knew it would require something unorthodox like promoting to a knight. However I did not expect it to happen *twice*

@laytonjr6601 3 года назад

It doesn't involve promoting to a knight to attack, it's the only defense and the puzzle is easier if you don't do so

@mgpvii Год назад

@@laytonjr6601 yeah, this guys remark, “ I kinda knew”, is him thinking that he is kinda smart, when in reality, he is clueless.

@mikebliss3153 3 года назад

The King sells his pony, and then the Archbishop of Canterbury defeats the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

@wixom01 3 года назад

I've been playing chess for more than 50 years. This is the most incredible puzzle I've ever seen!

@mdzaidshaikh1863 2 года назад

what's your age

@wixom01 2 года назад

@@mdzaidshaikh1863 63. /sigh

@Tuh_qh90 5 месяцев назад

@@wixom01 you lived when the legends(actual) were alive

@OCCNP 4 года назад

I showed this puzzle to my friends in the library, the library management called the police for being a magician. Now I’m trying to get rid of the handcufs with this magic

@aspuzling 3 года назад

Should have promoted to knight and you could jump the jail walls.

@xxAutoFlowxx 4 года назад

Amazing he created this without the help of an engine. WHICH COULDN"T HELP YOU ANYWAY!

@endless1814 3 года назад

After trying to solve this, I feel like a grandmaster... ...but sadly not the magician.

@lightworkval 4 года назад

And in this position they called It “four knights endgame”

@moonboy5851 4 года назад

Tal just went up another level in my books. What a genius.

@jayanth1590 3 года назад

5:18 just saving to come back for solution

@Happy-qd3yb 4 года назад

5:26 is when he actually explains it

@angelodiavolo3915 4 года назад

I mean, you could not even imagine that during that walk he took a cell phone from the future and crack the problem 😂 that is next level

@johnwamsley1896 4 года назад

No I can't imagine it because the cell towers and internet would also be in the future. The future Tal must have figured out some way to insert himself into the past. Oh, oh, he's a time traveler.

@gabbylikeskicks 3 года назад

Others: wow that guy solved that puzzle like a madman lol Me: lol the guy who made the puzzle is a freaking genius

@avicennasyeh6304 4 года назад

i really hope that there's one random guy out of knowhere end up playing it and finishing 6th..

@DJHastingsFeverPitch 4 года назад

Well... He was the former world champion, and the guy whose picture is in the top right!

@okibelieveyou7553 4 года назад

This puzzle should be used to improve SF etc... I mean it's a pretty huge miss for an engine evaluating 200 million moves a second. Goes to show that even engines are light years away from playing "perfect" chess.

@guimauve522 4 года назад

No the engine is fine as it is. It doesn't find the move quickly because it isn't told that this is a puzzle and that white has a winning position and to keep the computation low enough to not take too long it ends up pruning what is the right answer. There is no way to fix this other than to use more branches which isn't really a solution

@powerpug964 4 года назад

@@guimauve522 if technology improves more branches is a solution, engines dont play perfect yet

@powerpug964 4 года назад

If engines do improve though there is never a way to prove it plays perfectly

@chilledvortex 3 года назад

Just for the record, I did not manage to solve this puzzle!! Just putting it out there guys!

@ongbonga9025 4 года назад

It took me 45 years to solve this. It's the greatest achievement of my life, even better than being nominated for the 2033 Nobel Prize for Literature for my book "Water filters, mosquito nets and bog roll... 501 things to do with tights when shit hits the fan". I have a time travel app on my phone, in case anyone is wondering.

@Benny_Blue 4 года назад

This is probably one of the best chess analyses/explanations I've ever watched. Well done!

@hughparsonage4446 3 года назад

I think there's a flaw in the forced checkmate: black is not obliged to make a royal fork on f7. So the position is better for white, but not forced mate.

@thatapollo7773 2 года назад

Well if no royal fork is made white is easily winning When doing puzzles you only need to show the most testing line which would be to do the royal fork and white needs to find M10

@kurtzipagan6704 4 года назад

Well what can you expect from the magician from Riga. He's genius.

@tiotito31 3 года назад

Well I guessed the first move to make correctly. Grandmastering is ez

@tiktoktim 3 года назад

Sick tactics. You gotta have a hell of a mind to solve this

@aashaybhoir1224 4 года назад

I am never trading my bishop for a knight now onwards no matter what 😂

@wonderbucket1242 4 года назад

I tried setting up stockfish level 8 to play against with this board, but after I queen, black doesn't go for the fork but instead moves king to G4. Now what do I do??

@gp2k00 4 года назад

Qh4 then the King only has Kf3 then Bd1. At that point the King can move towards the bishop to get quickly checkmated or away and get trapped and checkmated in the corner after a few moves. Or maybe even Bd1 immediately brings the hammer down faster.

@paulamado8525 4 года назад

4. ..... Kg4 5. Qf6 K×g3 6. Qe5+ ..... Then White wins with precision play!

@ericbuzard349 4 года назад

you exposed that this puzzle isn't a simple mate as shown in the video. good job on you for actually testing it out, instead of just going with what other people were saying was the so called best move.

@argish 3 года назад

25/07/2021 - Lichess Engine: Depth 58, infinite analysis, still shows -3.6 and black is winning. Engine really doesn't see this. Surprisingly, engine does see this line when bishop to c2 move is played. until then, engine is itself blind

@johnathanbryans5660 3 года назад

Now I see why grandmasters and engines couldn’t solve this puzzle.

@melle7505 4 года назад

As a Dutch person it’s always nice to hear someone else try to pronounce a typical Dutch name, haha!

@RikMaxSpeed 3 года назад

I don’t get why the compute engines can’t solve this, there are few moves to consider, it’s not a hugely deep tree. Are they so bamboozled by the under-promotions leading to premature pruning?

@RikMaxSpeed 3 года назад

I've spent a little time looking at this on using Chess Tiger Pro on my iPhone - the point being to understand why chess computers have difficulty solving this. It seems that the main reason is that the winning moves lead you down a very dark path where you sacrifice a knight and a newly promoted queen, which is then followed by a pretty complex mate in 9, itself involving two black pawn under-promotions to knights in order to delay the mate. Even Alpha-0 and Leela may struggle with this puzzle as they rely on even more aggressive pruning of the search tree. Computers evaluate chess positions by prioritising the most promising moves first and the double sacrifice required combined with the deep analysis to find the mate probably means most programs will simply prune that branch and never explore it to the depth required to find the win. I now appreciate that this is a really beautiful puzzle, with an interesting longest path where black has 4 knights + a black bishop but simply can't get enough control of the white squares to stop the white bishop.