Great Comet medley performance - Tonys 2017 

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​@@ipanemagirl8375it didn't win the Tony's 2017 :((

Very much so. I’m pretty sure they could hear me yelling in disgust all the way from over in Australia

local young person here, BRO I WAS ENTHRALLED

Literally this show has me reading war and peace (idk how young is “young people” and not target demographic for the book lol)

had me reading war and peace between my classes in 9th grade fr

*fellow young person here I am literally going to read war and peace this year because this musical got me so INVESTED IN THE STORY. Which I think is pretty amazing. Without great comet, I would have spent my whole life without giving war and peace a second thought.

Correction: If your show gets young people in important discussions and actions dealing with mental health and suicide, you deserve best show.

me too

An iron grip on my soul as well.

The most I can hope for is that it becomes popular, a tour and a broadway revival.

@@coffelita I doubt it'd tour considering the complexity of the staging, but I'd so love there to be a revival

@@themandarin9493 Saaame

Not any dude in a cast singing about windows. A gargantuan piece of shit in a cast singing about windows

It''s cos DEH was super over-hyped and this show sadly didn't receive anywhere near the widespread attention it deserved, plus shows with actual orchestras rather than bands these days tend to get overlooked, in spite of the fact that it's MUCH harder to properly orchestrate than it is to write for a 5 or 6 piece band. Don't get me wrong, DEH has some fab music, but it's all very "pop" and panders to a wider demographic, whereas the Great Comet score and songs are far better crafted and display a great deal more intelligence, elegance and subtlety of composition than the overtly heartstring-tugging, ostentatiously uplifting nature of Pasek and Paul's music.

Omg seriously!!! Holy shit that sounds so exciting. Had no clue they were opening again. Do you think they’ll do the same in America?

I just saw it this week! God I was reminded how snubbed this musical was. Also they just got moved to mirvish next summer! Exciting stuff

same here, you said it exactly right. and can i just say, i absolutely love your profile pic of chuu? you seem to have great taste in music lmao

This is a 100% solid take

Ben Platt deserved his awards, but deh didnt deserve all the ones they got

@@juliannacontreras yeah I still don’t know how deh managed to pull best musical over great comet or come from away

History is just repeating itself. Parade won best revival just like DEH won best musical in 2017. Ben is good but Great Comet is a thousand times better than DEH and they should’ve won :( Edit: Oh my god I just found out that Sweeney Todd won the exact same tonys that Great Comet won (Lighting and Scenic)

PREACH

[PIERRE] They say we are asleep until we fall in love We are children of dust and ashes But when we fall in love we wake up And we are a god and angels weep... But if I die here tonight, I die in my sleep! They say we are asleep until we fall in love And I'm so ready to wake up now.... [ANATOLE] Whoa... [COMPANY] Whoa... [ANATOLE] Well, comrades, we've had our fun Lived, laughed... and loved Friends of my youth, when shall we meet again? I'm going abroad... [ALL] Goodbye my Gypsy lovers All my revels here are over Well, goodbye, Matryosha Kiss me one last time, whoa Remember me to Steshka There, goodbye, goodbye, goodbye Wish me luck, my Gypsy lovers Now goodbye, goodbye, goodbye [PIERRE] Whoa... Here's to happiness freedom and life! May your travels be swift as a scythe cuts through the grass! [PIERRE] May your sorrows be counted and numbered as many as drops of wine and vodka that stay in my glass! Vsego horoshego Na pososhok Poekhali Vsego horoshego Na pososhok Poekhali [ALL] Vsego horoshego Na pososhok Poekhali Hope this helps

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Have you ever seen amber- It’s just what she does

@@phoebusapollo8450 LMAO IF U STILL SEE THIS CAN U GIVE CONTEXT IM SO CURIOUS BEYOND THIS

time stamp please 😭

@@ashidosa 4:31

Pierre is not old in the book. He is barely 28 by the end of the story.

As someone who does not understand the appeal of “Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812” either. It is pretty obvious its good reviews, and Tony nominations, were due to Josh Groban being the lead actor. He is the only one in this performance with any stage presence. Figured this show took a huge nosedive after he left.

No it's not, this show was robbed of its Tonys and its run got cut short

Same here! I love DEH but how in the world did show only get 2 awards? It should've AT LEAST won Best Original Score in my opinion.

Great Comet has such GREAT orchestration. Still bitter about DEH beating it :(

no it’s not lmao

I'll be salty until they come back and win

Dear Evan Hansen won because it so intimately and accurately captured the human heart and its day-to-day personal struggles. There’s never been anything that made me feel so seen and heard, as it did for so many others all over the world. As the show itself says: You Will Be Found! Where was the message that people took from Great Comet? Hmm?? There’s a thousand pieces like Great Comet that present characters and their loves in this very elaborate and melodramatic way. You’d be lucky to find something that matches Dear Evan Hansen.

@@samosullivan1744 dear Evan Hansen won because it was more popular, because the songs are very poppy, relatable and digestible. The story is not a heartfelt one, but rather deceitful. It is about a kid that lies about being the best friend of someone who committed suicide, then gets everything he ever wanted, an the consequences of what he did are not even that harsh. I get that Evan may be relatable but the “you will be found” thing is honestly horrible in context, the suicide of Connor was used as a device to move the story forward and it is exploited because everything evan does is seen as he is a victim. Since the musical doesn’t really treat Alana and Jared seriously enough as fully fleshed out characters we don’t get to see how much of a jerk Evan is. We are forced to relate more with Evan since he is the protagonist, but it is actually a twisted tale that screams, oh poor thing, he’s got social anxiety and depression, and on top of that he is lonely, we should feel bad for him even if he destroys a family and betrays the trust of other people who don’t matter because they aren’t poor Evan who has a mental illness . I don’t think deh should be praised with best musical because it does not have an honest story nor I think it deserves to win a tony for best orchestrations, they are minimalistic, they are intimate and fit the mood, but really? Great comet was better in that category.

@@lorenasiu3113 It is an honest story, because it portrays modern-day people with all their flaws. Besides, the whole story leads up to the characters revealing the truths about themselves they don’t want to admit (Evan’s suicide attempt, for example), so I honestly don’t see how you can’t call it an honest story!

@@samosullivan1744 I love Dear Evan Hansen. It's one of my favorite musicals. But I have to agree that this one is better. To address your final point first: you say there's no piece that matches Evan Hansen? There absolutely is. Next to normal. It had the same director and the two shows are fairly easy to group together- they both portray a character's struggle with mental health, a family's struggle with loss, and they have some sort of hallucination-ghost person (Gabe in n2n and Connor in deh). But next to normal is easily better from an objective standpoint and, honestly, an emotional one. Everything means something. Every color (be it referenced in lighting, costumes, or even lyrics), every phrase, every note, everything. Every character is so well developed. Diana's struggle with mental health is real. Next to normal is probably the most effective musical I've ever seen, though I do think great comet is up there as well, I just haven't had as much time to analyze it (I'm not sure it'll top n2n for me, but it's definitely very strong). The reason I say it's better from an emotional standpoint is that it lacks the problematic parts of deh that many people have pointed out. Evan is a liar, and he's not a good person. I don't believe that every protagonist has to be good, or that everyone who acts poorly has to be punished. That's not how it is in real life, and this is more real. But if you want to have your fanbase be able to self insert them into your main character, he should probably not base all of the removal of his struggles on the lies that he tells a grieving family. And then there's the thing pointed out by many people struggling with Evan's issues- they're not realistic to what it's actually like to have social anxiety. Even ignoring the circumstances under which you will be found is performed, it's most certainly problematic. Great comet may not have an underlying message, but it also doesn't have to to be a great or even original musical. What message does cats have? And yet, that held the title of longest running musical for years before phantom topped it (and what's the message of phantom? I dare you to find one that you can truly convince me is the message, there are plenty of great things that you can take away from it, but I don't think any of them are the overall purpose of the show, and I'm *quite* familiar with it. It's maybe not the biggest masterpiece ever, but it is generally well written. Not every great show needs a takeaway to be great.) And yes, of course there are lots of musicals similar to great comet. That's the beauty of inspiration. But I dare you to find one that does quite what great comet does with its staging and its audience. By far, the music in this show is better than deh- deh doesn't have bad music, and I quite like the way words fail is done (though I'd argue that's not exactly the only show that's done a song that way, see flowers from hadestown, also uses the non repetitive style to drive in how defeated they feel). But the music in this show is incredible. It's interesting. Dear Evan Hansen uses a more basic pop style, and while that isn't bad and it's also not like great comet reinvented the musical theater style, it's not nearly as unpredictable or unique. And it's well written. The little things that are included. And some of that can be attributed to the source material, I'm sure, but it also takes a great writer to adapt something effectively and include those details without it feeling forced. For example, Natasha saying 'I love him. I know him' about Andrey and 'I love him. I love him' about Anatole. It's a stark difference in their relationships. She knows Andrey. It's safe. She doesn't know Anatole, but she loves him. It's a blink and you miss it difference, but it drives in character. Or the similarities between Anatole and Helene being driven in by how they try to convince Natasha to come to the ball. They use the same phrase- you will be the prettiest there. It's those little things that make a musical truly amazing. I dare you to find more than a few in deh. I've noticed these, and I'm pretty sure I've seen more, in the week that I've been listening to great comet. And again, man, the staging! It's just incredible. I'm planning to be a director someday, and I'd kill to get to block something on a stage like that. The opportunities for audience interaction- and the way that they use them- and the three-dimensionality of it? It's exceptional! And it's used so well, too. The audience interaction is very well placed, used to drive in tension, give character to the show and to the characters themselves, it lets the people watching connect to it. Obviously I can't name every example of all of these things cause this is long enough as it is but much as I do love and enjoy deh, this show is just better. Imagine sitting in that theater while it's playing. As neat as it would be to see deh live, there's no way it could compare to great comet. Even if you're not in the middle of the stage or on the far sides, even watching from the normal seats, the way it's built makes it all so much more intimate. Which also allows you to connect to the story.

@@juliasings6131 Alright, challenge accepted! The message of Cats is about the dangers of tribalism (a very important one for these divided times) as the Jellicles learn to accept Grizabella back into their tribe. There are multiple messages in Phantom but I’d say the most recurrent one is to not hide yourself. We see it in Christine’s journey from nervous, led-by-the-nose chorus girl to Opera Star who takes matters into her own hands and in her endeavours to take off the Phantom’s mask. And by the end, he learns her message deciding to leave his underground hideout leaving his mask behind. “It’s over now, the music of the night” - He’s moving out of the dark and into the daylight. And at the very end, when Meg holds his mask up, it’s like she’s holding it out to the audience as if to say: What do we do now? Do we cover ourselves up out of fear of being shunned by the world or conceal our true loves for another? You’ve seen this story, what about yours?

he looks flustered & honored

​@@alexs.3383: He's got Amber Gray and Grace McLean on his lap. What do you expect?

alex time low same or time for a national tour

Tea

You know, since Carousel is ending it would be a good time to bring it back

It's been long enough. If they can bring Les Mis back every other year they can do the same for the other musical based off a ridiculously long foreign classic

It’s been time to revive it the day it closed

I think of all the awards that Great Comet lost to DEH, that's the one that makes me go absolutely feral

I don't know how the Tonys' politics work exactly, but I really feel like they awarded the name more than the work. If Lac hadn't arranged for Hamilton, or if the DEH arranger had been anyone else, I doubt they would've considered DEH Best Orchestration material.

@@badlucksparrow40 COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF

sophieloafy89 TEA

Lucas Steele? More like Lucas Stolen

OUR DARLING BELOVED SHOW WAS ABSOLUTELY ROBBEDDDD YOURE RIGHT

Josh Groban is the most disrespected performer on Broadway

I'm still salty about its closing and it's been 365 days :(

@@valakmountain Same

Same

It’s most likely opening in west end in 2019 though

@@coconut9389 Oh, did it??

it need to be on tour

this is the first time i have ever seen the show abbreviated in that way

Alex S. Lol okay, I also call it Npatco1812 and the great comet, but I see plenty of people do it. also I would imagine any of this is more initalism than it is abbreviation but yeah

you're right & I am surprised I haven't seen anyone else do it before considering the amount of time i spend browsing the broadway corner of the internet

They went with safe and dumbed down rather than the show that was revolutionary in many respects.

@@AnneBarschall Natasha and Pierre is unique, but i dont know if i would call it revolutionary exactly. Immersive theatre has existed in shows around the world, and even off Broadway with pieces like Sleep No More, long before Natasha and Pierre came around. NandP is really just the first example of something like this on Broadway. Im not saying its bad or anything by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd hesitate to call it revolutionary.

Agreed about DEH, but honestly I think Finding Neverland was a pretty weak show that wouldn't have gotten nominated anyway.

AGREE 100% ABOUT THE ORCHESTRATION

@@evah1928 yes I totally second that

Some girl I know who's a musical theatre major claimed the transition between the electropop and folk music in Great Comet was "jarring." IBut that's what makes the musical SO AMAZING! It's unconventional! It sounds different from EVERY OTHER SHOW on Broadway. It ropes you into the world and tells a story using music that infiltrates your soul and makes it unforgettable

@@rachelf5466 Oh my gosh I can not agree more.

Best crossover.

Zoe Daisy when?

3:07

Damn now I’m even more sad about that fact that both this AND Falsettos were robbed that year

i love how its “lucas steele josh groban” and the balaga is simply *balaga*

Stacey Varos Isn’t it? Too bad people could relate more to the American Revolution and hip-hop rap than War & Peace set in half-folkish electropopera. It really should have gotten as popular and been as long-lasting. You’ll find many gems off-Broadway, though. Try Hadestown for a start.

@@laurelcrown9293 Hadestown is wonderful. It's coming to Broadway in 2019!

Madeline Adair It is??????? Oh my god!!! Now I’m so ready for both Hadestown to hit Broadway and Dave Malloy’s up-and-coming four-hour off-Broadway Moby Dick musical. And did you hear? Denee Benton is gonna join Hamilton as Eliza!! Now three of the most known Natasha actors (Pippa, Shoba) have also gotten Eliza roles!!

Everyone is still salty

Chloe Eagan Except bland, unseasoned DEH lol

Steph Piano Deh didn’t even win the best featured actor award

STAY SALTY

I was sure that DEH would win best musical just because of how popular it became, and when it won I was ok with that. But when it won best score and composition over Comet I was pissed. DEH has like three or four chords and boring instrumentals. Comet has such a new and interesting set of chords and instruments it's insane. Sadly there'll never be another musical like Comet due to the treatment of the show