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I later worked with the armourer on Black Hawk Down, I forget his name (edit: Simon Atherton). He told me he had to transport so much blank ammunition into Morocco the locals got unnerved. They couldn't believe the hundreds of thousands of rounds were for use in just a film. Halfway through he had to send out for more blank and the local customs denied entry. He bought a few customs guys to a day's filming to show how much blank they were ripping through and they were slack jawed at the intensity. I can't remember the exact figures but we worked together on Band of Brothers and said Blackhawk Down used up ten times the ammo in a fraction of the time. He had teams of weapon cleaners and each cast member cycled through two weapons each, one for filming, one being cleaned. He gave the impression the location was bedlam day and night.
David Rendall not true 60,000 rounds were fired in this movie. Speilburg said on a heavy fighting day they would use 14000 rounds. There was nine months in the production of band of brothers.lets say there was a "heavy fighting day 1 time every two months, thats 56,000 rounds, a little under bhd! Now add say 1000 extra a month for the normal scenes.Up thats 65,000 rounds.
I worked with him on Band of Brothers and Charlotte Grey (if you spot the rather large German StUG commander in CGrey clearly speaking english as they trundle into town using a NATO standard 1980s tank crew headset, thats me). I drove Sugar 1 one of the three Shermans used in BoB and the wonderful Cromwell in the Holland fight. When the Jagdpanther rolls over the poor German in Bloody Gulch, and when the StUG gets knocked out Im the commander. All done through a company called Plus Films. The heavy fighting scenes in BoB were Brecourt Manor, Bloody Gulch, Carentan, Nuenan, Crossroads, The biggest battle in Bastogne hit the edit room floor, Foy and the last Patrol. If thats 14,000 each (and I think Spielberg was being creative there) that makes 112,000 rounds. But each took at least three days to film (Bloody Gulch and Nuenan went on forever) so that would put it in the region of 350,000 rounds. In BoB a lot of the shots you hear were foley not filmed. I doubt that much was used. I can only go on what the armourer said but 60,000 for Blackhawk down seems a very low amount. The style of filming is very different too, BoB was a long shoot yes (only twice the length of BHD) but a lot of that was character driven with little more than one battle scene per episode (none in Ep1 or the last two.) Blackhawk was an action movie, something like 2hrs of gunfighting, thats a lot. I doubt theres more than two hours shooting in the whole of BoB, and they used slower firing weapons, fewer machine guns, and no miniguns. The Germans also played a small part in BoB, whereas the Somalis fire of huge amounts in BHD. Im sticking with the armourers story even if he may have been shooting a line.
+Perák Gábor That's not really the difference. In this case, it was absolutely necessary that someone get onto the machine gun. No thinking was necessary, so it was not a matter of thinking or not.
I see what you mean. Let me approach from the other side. You are right. His move was necesary... but it's just one part of it. It has nothing to do with bravery. If you take the risk after deliberation, you are brave(as he did..after short hesitation). If you do it instinctively, you are not certainly brave.
Unlike most action war films, this film showed the horrors of war on a personal level instead of trying to make it look fun. This film was brilliantly made.
I don't know how they did it but each death made you think about the person as a person with a family, friends and they'll never be able to experience life ever again
+boltspeedman35 Only 19 American soldiers died during that battle. So they kinda put more effort in creating a little "bond" for each soldier that died during the battle making it a bit more personal
Pilla was just joking and Steele knows that. That’s just the humor that happens in the military. Most sergeants see their privates are like their own smartass sons. Pilla didn’t deserve that.
@@__mindflayer__ yeah, it has nothing to do with that. It has everything to do with the fact that Captain Steele and Sergeant Pilla's last meaningful interaction was negative. Regardless of which, Captain Steele knew he had to maintain discipline among his troops or he would not be respected as a leader.
@@paydenladeroute7129 Seemed like a joke to me after the incident Pilla jumped onto his mates infront of Steele it was all morale boosting they are in a war zone trying to keep sane. they need to have humor among the troops, Steele knows that.
@@sovietelmo3000 It was early this year, I didn't hear about it till halfway through the year, 2 of my favorite movies he stars in, he plays his roles perfectly.
In reality, SGT Pilla was seated in the rear passenger's side seat of the Humvee firing his M60 out of the window. PFC Paulsen was up top on the M2. Pilla noticed a Somali fighter take aim at Paulsen, and as he took aim at the Somali, the Somali corrected his aim to Pilla. Both Pilla and the Somali fired at the same time, killing each other. Pilla then fell onto the solider next to him with half his head blown off and his brains leaking out. I feel like that would've been a much more impactful scene in terms of finality.
Several years ago I had the honor of meeting Sgt. Pilla's family through my family. We attended a memorial dedication of a school in his home town in Vineland, New Jersey. Many rangers attended, including many who were part of that battle. One of the helo pilots was also there - explained that they were prevented from going back after several had been hit. He carried that with him to this day. These folks are special, the service members and their families. A real tragedy.
This is no lie. Not too long after the WTC attacks, my wife, my son and I went for an outing in Parvin State Park not too far from Vineland NJ. My son was about ten at the time. As we came to a small playground within the park, an older gentleman and a boy about of seven wandered up and the two boys began playing together. Turns out the little boy was the man's grandson. He expressed concerns that this might get us into another war and he told me he already lost a son over there. I asked if he didn't mind telling me which war it was and that was when he asked if I was familiar the military operation in Somalia and I said I was. He told me that his son was Dominic Pilla and told me the grim details. I felt so bad for him and express my condolences for his loss. He told me that President Clinton invited the family members of those who were KIA and he told me that he didn't want to go (apparently, was not fond of Bill Clinton and neither am I) he told me that there was talk about this movie and he told me that he hoped they didn't make it. I can truly understand. During that same time, I had just began volunteering on Sunday mornings at the Veteran's Memorial Home In Vineland. I would bring my guitar and sing Christian music during the morning Services. I did this until the COVID lockdown and have not been back since. On my drive back home I would pass a house with the name Pilla on the mailbox. RIP Sgt Pilla you are not forgotten.
I had no idea he was from Vineland NJ. I’m retired military myself and live right outside the base, just about 45 min away. All this time here and just finding this out. Thanks for posting your experience.
I remember seeing this movie when it came out and our local theater had a poster displayed next to the door that lead into the screening room with some of his info on it. He lived about 2-3 blocks from my house in Vineland, NJ. He was laid to rest in the same section as my grandfather so I always make sure to pay my respects whenever I visit my grandfather.
When you see your fellow soldier just got killed firing the 50, and still have the balls to say 'it's mine' and take his place. That's Delta for you boys.
The definition of Courage is doing something that your body is too afraid to do yet your telling your body to do it anyways, I promise you he was afraid to get on that 50 and really badly didn’t want too, but he sucked it up for the team
@@MrTurner_18 well thank you for your service my friend hope your doing ok after all the terrible things you probably saw im only 16 at the moment but im planning to join the irish army and then hopefully the irish army rangers after when i turn 19 or 20
Uniforms used by US soldiers in the movie were not exactly the ones used IRL att he event in -93. The movie used "chocolate" path /3, while IRL soldiers used the 6' one.
Bana's character, Delta named Hoot, is a freakin' warrior here. When everyone else is hesitant to get on the .50 cal, he pops up yelling, It's mine!, and just starts unloading. No heroics, just doing what he can to keep his guys alive and moving.
My dad was in the Gulf War right after he graduated high school. This movie he says is the closest to realism that a movie can capture for this era. A fantastic movie but war is such a terrible thing to resort to.
@@anesuishekwangwari4826 I'm sure his family does. Unlike you whose daddy hated you so much he made your first and last name sound like some bullshit third-world ass sushi dish, shithead.
This is why the modern remote control weapons station exists. They can fire not just 7.62mm or 50 cal but also a tandem 40mm auto grenade launcher as the crew are hidden safely inside the armored vehicle. A lot of technology has been developed from past experiences.
Thing is we knew this was a thing. I was a young private then (BHD era) but I'd seen the M113 ACAVs (Not to far in memory ) and how good they could be. You have to protect the gunner. It's not perfect, but gun shields could have saved a lot of lives. Now all armored vehicles seem to have CROWs We may not have been able to do that then but simple gun shields that existed in the system could have been used.
malaysia helped not pakistan soldiers,pakistan convoy retreated with reason cannot combat in the dark so malaysia responsible to save 75 us rangers at pasar bakara,mogadishu even thousand of militans ambush attacked to our soldier
This film, along with September 11th, had a strong effect on videogames post 2001. You started to see more modern war games become more popular and less one man army, more gritty with fellow AI soldiers who could actually die. It had quite a impact on young child me to see the transition.
Ese era el otro compañero del otro coche en la otra torreta. Por que el delta sigue llevando los guantes. Simplemente pusieron al otro tipo y un enfoque de la cámara
What I love most about this film is it doesn't pretend that war is glorious and heroic. It shows how individual people in war can do glorious and heroic things in the face of adversity, but war itself is messy and brutal and the very worst thing humankind has ever invented.
As a 50 gunner, I was so happy and prayed I never had to run the crow system.... sitting on a f 50 has the knowledge of fear but when I was introduced to the crow system.... I'd rather sit in that seat than run that video game and have to crawl up top to reload with damn near no cover. But running a gun up top everyone needs to know there sectors of fire. But an excellent show of the fear and chaos of doing the job
I was 3rd Platoon Leader for A Co / 2-14 Inf / 10th Mtn Div that went to the first crash site that night where Wolcott was the pilot - nobody survived in that Black Hawk - got out the next AM with the Rangers and casualties through a maze of narrow dirt streets back to the Pakistani stadium - when not on foot we took Malaysian APC's part of the way - we didn't have the support being a peacekeeping mission - Rangers and Delta had bullet proof vests - us in the 10th Mtn had flak vests - Bin Laden supported the Somalis with AK-47's and RPG's - the daytime missions finally caught up with us that day and our contingency mission to help the Rangers when Black Hawks were shot down played out - never expected it to but did - Mark Bowden interviewed us before writing the book then the movie followed later - Godspeed to all veterans - we don't need another lame duck Clinton in the White House - our military suffers with Dems in charge over recent years!!!!!
This was not mentioned in the book and movie but right when the officer checking in on Struecker's status update but there's multiple conversations on the radio at once, and Strueker said "It's Pilla and he's dead." The entire radio chatter just went silent for a full minute, because everyone heard him saying they've lost their first Ranger.
For those of you who served, this movie captures combat perfectly and for those who sit behind the desks pushing papers and trying to micromanage our troops. this movie captures the grey area that is always lost. Thank you all for serving.
In a documentary about the battle, the real SGT Struecker (the driver in this video) says how he reported Pillas death over the radio. At the moment, several voices over the net were talking back and forth as the battle progressed, but as soon as Struecker said KIA, the whole net suddenly went dead silent
@@shumugaming It was a more an international action at first than a full war, when they held an American soldier hostage and caused major casualties then the US took them very seriously. Tanks, APC, Apache, C130 and carrier strke group etc was being asembled for an all out assult, raising city blocks to ground to find their man.
I watched a documentary with some of the rangers from black hawk down talking about the events, and I have to say that the portrayal of delta in this film is spot on. The rangers viewed the delta operators as superhumans, one ranger I can’t remember who it was said that once he saw a delta operator get hit that really brought home the reality of the situation for him.
There is no life expectancy. He lied to you. The government wouldn’t waste millions, training a person for them to likely be killed in 7 mins. Especially one of the militaries best units.. life expectancy is not a real thing, it is made up for people to over exaggerate the dangers of the job. I am an infantry mos veteran and have been there. Sorry to break the news to you.. just being real
@@robertgeorge7066 20 years in the Middle East, hundreds of thousands of troops, tens of thousands of combat missions. 7 minutes mathematically doesn’t make any sense. People just say crazy dumb things.
"I don't wanna talk right now Colonel; I'm busy!" That's about the most polite way I could imagine a sergeant telling a colonel to piss off and let him drive...because shit's real right now. Everyone will have their own favorite lines in movies. This might be mine.
RIP tom sizemore.. lock up, heat, point break, black hawk down, the relic, bringing out the dead, strange days, natural born killers, strange days, passenger 57, striking distance, saving private ryan, born on the 4th of july, true romance
Love how everyone in the coments are military experts. The movie is great and the cast is unbelievable,dont apreciate it as a kid. But holly shit! Mcgregor,Bana,Bloom,Hardy, Fitchner,Sizemore and fucking Jaime Lannister. Thats a cast man!
Had to be done, Plus was a special forces member he was looked to, him taking the gun helped protect rest and also confidence to keep going. leading by example and carrying on.
I’m so glad to personally to be able talked to McKnight every week. Is a hunting friend of my grandfather and gets dental work done at my mothers work in Viera down in Florida. Such an badass and amazing person to talk too
I've read the book, which was Mark Bowden interviewing Rangers who were there and compiling all that into a book. The movie was based off of his book, and in that Pilla is shooting a M60 out the rolled down window in the backseat of a humvee, not on the 50 cal. The book specifically describes Pilla's brains being blown onto the guy he was sitting beside, which can't happen if he was on the 50.
I guess they didn't think that they were going to be necessary as the mission was only supposed to be a hit on a small building. They were using helicopters just for transport so apache weren't going to be necessary.
Abrams tanks would have been sitting ducks in this kind of environment. No room to swing the main gun around and all those buildings where someone could pop out and fire an RPG at it? Despite its heavy armour things like treads could still be destroyed and then you have an even bigger problem. Plus they did have Little Bird gunships in play, wouldn't change much throwing Apache's in there instead. Don't forget that they needed the Black Hawk's for their transport capabilities.
The drum cadence gives me chills man.... I have problems watching this movie due to PTSD issues but it is really good, that kia call makes me teary eyed and all...TRUST ME YOU DONT WANT TO BE IN THIS SITUATION AT ALL FOR REAL, ITS SO DISORIENTING MAN, I DONT WISH WAR ON ANYONE
That must be the most reliable 50 cal in history.... Also, Hoot is brave as hell taking over the turret even though his helmet isn't even made of kevlar.
First war-movie i ever saw, i was about 5-6 yr. old.. im not even American but that movie gave me the love/fear for war and action movies/video games. like if you played arma 3 custom mission : operation black hawk down
McKnight: How are things going? Things okay there, Struecker? Struecker: I don't wanna talk about it now, Colonel. I'm busy! [Pilla gets shot and falls into the humvee] Thomas: Sergeant Pilla's hit! Christ, he's fucked up! McKnight: Is anybody hit? Struecker, talk to me! Struecker: It's Sergeant Pilla! McKnight: What's his status? What's his status? Hoot: He's dead! Struecker: He's dead. Pilla's dead, sir. McKnight: C2, this is McKnight, we have a KIA: Dominick Pilla, over. Harell: Roger that. Struecker: Get on that fifty! Someone get on that fifty! Hoot: It's mine!
I’d love to meet and shake Hoot’s hand and thank him for his service and the rest of the Delta Commandos and Army Rangers that were apart of this Operation that are still living and the families of the fallen warriors.
Jeff Streucker visited Mogadishu 20 years later. He spoke about that day and said the movie actually downplayed the battle that occurred, if you can imagine it being even more violent and chaotic.
instead talk to me about REALITY..like that US football hero who went to Afghanistan and was SLAUGHTered BY HIS OWN GUYS on orders from above..cause he was blowing whistle on HEROIN OPS of YOUR military, your who ideas of military are from the mind of a sheep
I got to talk to Struecker, the man on the Humvee, and he had said that what really happened with Pilla was he and the enemy had saw each other at the same time and both popped a round at the same time. At least he went out taking the man with him
I had the honor of working with one of the men (Belman) at a robotics company, after he came home. I had no idea who he was until after he left the company because he didn't tell us who he was. What a nice, humble guy. I hope he's well.
I’ve watched this movie at least 50 times. It was always my go to. Not because I liked the carnage, but because I knew it was real, I knew the Brave Men that endured this battle were Americans. It did an amazing job of telling the story of courage, sacrifice, emotion, Bravery, and the love Soldiers have for one another regardless of race, religion, or background. Men like these are what made America the greatest Country in the world. They are why I stand for our flag and every God Blessed thing it represents. Thank you Veterans, to those who made the ultimate sacrifice, and especially to the families of service members! You are not forgotten!
Your comment is possibly the gayest shit on a page of cringe inducing comments. YALL VEDERENS IS WHAT MAKES THE YOUNITED STATES THE GREATEST DAMN COUNTRY IN AMERICAN SIMPER FINE MERINES
I had the distinct pleasure of meeting Colonel McKnight (portrayed by Tom Sizemore, in the first shot of this vid) by complete chance. It was a powerful moment to speak briefly with him having seen this film, & knowing the reality had been far far worse
I also had the honor and privilege of meeting LTC McKnight 28 March 2013 at a Saginaw (MI) Spirit Hockey game. It was my 6 yr old son and I both in Red Wings jerseys. And most importantly it was military appreciation night, met other veterans as well. 9 years later still very humbling, experience that neither of us will ever forget. “This we’ll defend”
Aidid did his PhD at Moscow in military strategy, specialising about how to counter a superiorly trained force using a ragtag army. He won the war against UN at the end.