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Greek-speakers of Pontus, Turkey (Part 2) 

Tom_Traveler
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I spent 1 week in the Black Sea Mountains of Turkey close to the border with Georgia in late July to experience Pontic Greek. It's very different from modern Greek, so much so that I needed a guide to help with translations. The dialect was isolated from the Greek-speaking world for nearly 1000 years so has preserved some very archaic elements and also absorbed loan words from Turkish, Persian, and Arabic. Greek-speaking Christians were expelled from Turkey following an agreement with Greece to exchange populations based on religion in 1922. Greek-speakers who converted to Islam at some point (likely in the last 200 to 400 years) were allowed to stay. Pontic Greek is an increasingly endangered language. In this video, I speak largely to older people. Their children can understand but not respond.‪@tom_traveler‬

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@vergosa
@vergosa 2 года назад
As a Turk knowing ancient Greek it is also a little bit understandable for me. And I did not know there were a lot of people speaking Pontus Greek. So I am very happy to see them.
@DJ_Ichiyo
@DJ_Ichiyo Год назад
Χαίρομαι
@vergosa
@vergosa Год назад
@@DJ_Ichiyo Μέγα χαῖρε. Τοὺς θεοὺς εὔχομαί σοι διδόναι ὑγίειαν.
@HighlandBlackStorm
@HighlandBlackStorm Год назад
Their pronunciation is completely greek, for me Tom sounds like foreigner with his modern greek, he learn it as foreign language
@vergosa
@vergosa Год назад
@@HighlandBlackStorm oh thanks. I don't know modern greek but I wish
@HighlandBlackStorm
@HighlandBlackStorm Год назад
@@vergosa I suppose I have to learn some Turkish also. And find people to speak Romeika. It's so difficult to speak the dialect if you live in city, in villages is more common
@chestersakamoto6843
@chestersakamoto6843 2 года назад
The way the gentleman with the glasses pronounces Romaika (roh-mah-ee-ka) just tickles me, as it seems that the Pontic dialect has retained certain pronunciations from Ancient Greek. This, along with Calabrian Greek, are my favorite Greek dialects spoken outside of Greece.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 года назад
It’s evident that Romaiika isn’t their first language, they can barely communicate in Romaiika.
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 2 года назад
@@olbiomoiros It is their first language, but as soon as they entered the school system, their primary language of preference became Turkish, probably from age 7 or 8 they would then also choose Turkish to start a conversation with their parents (at that time usage of Romeika in schools was heavily discouraged). While their parents would continue conversing in Romeika, and address them in Romeika, they would increasingly answer in Turkish. The people interviewed here all have children, who grew up speaking Turkish as their first language, but who are still exposed to Romeika daily or weekly (depending on the family). While Romeika was practically outlawed by primary school teachers in the region for some decades in the late 20th century, in recent times teachers have become more accepting of its usage, and may even encourage students to learn the language. It is unfortunate that no official education program has been developed, or even been considered. Hopefully this will change in the future, as Turkey gets a more democratic government.
@wix_61
@wix_61 Год назад
@@i.k.8868 Have you ever seen a Greek school where Turkish is allowed?
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
@@wix_61 I am not happy with the Greek policies at all! However, my comment was about the local situation...
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt Год назад
@@wix_61 There are over a hundred Greek schools in Greece, in Western Thrace, that teach the modern Turkish Language. Do your research...
@thewaywardpoet
@thewaywardpoet 2 года назад
What a vibrant, colorful community! The Pontic Greeks are a community that has been around since ancient times. Just incredible.
@bumin6451
@bumin6451 2 года назад
Rum*
@latinbrotherhood495
@latinbrotherhood495 2 года назад
@@bumin6451 rum means (roman)greek cyprus is kibris rum greeks used to be called rums
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 года назад
There are no actual Pontic Greeks in Pontus today, just Turks who speak Romaiika
@serkantemiz7565
@serkantemiz7565 2 года назад
@@olbiomoiros You mean Turks for muslims? If you convert to islam, you will became turk in this region?
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
@@serkantemiz7565 Only according to nationalist Greeks and Turks. For everone else, all that counts is what you recognize as your heritage. For many people in these regions, it is not an issue at all to accept a mixed heritage of both Pontic Greek and Turkish background. But the nationalists despise us for that. They believe in some fantasy ideal of genetically pure nations. Good luck with that.
@olgaath1511
@olgaath1511 2 года назад
Tom you did an amazing job, well done!
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler 2 года назад
Ευχαριστώ πολύ!
@user-gi9pm8hm9f
@user-gi9pm8hm9f 9 месяцев назад
Extremely interesting! Thanks a lot for the video
@tonychamb4730
@tonychamb4730 2 года назад
Their dialect is actually more "purely" Greek, closer to Ancient Greek rather than the Neohellenic, but somehow they are proud Turks. That's what happens when nation equals religion. Non-Greek speaking (originally) people in Greece (e.g. Arvanites or Slavs of Macedonia) are considered Greeks because they are Orthodox but these people not because they are Muslim. Does that even make sense?
@jedibjj5488
@jedibjj5488 2 года назад
No b.s
@yaldabaoth9235
@yaldabaoth9235 2 года назад
Subdued and tortured people with a Stockholm syndrome.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 года назад
They are ancestors of converts. The only reason they survived the genocide is their Islamic faith. Other than that, the Pontic Greek dialect exists in Greece, and its people have been using far more than in its homeland Pontus. They are not Greek because once you convert, you are a Turk (that’s how it was in the Ottoman Empire). They have been Turks for decades or hundreds of years. Not only were their ancestors traitors, but so are they being the most nationalistic Turks, supporting Erdogan who has been constantly threatening Greece and making racist remarks. They also idolise Mustafa Kemal who is responsible for the genocide of Pontic Greeks.
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 2 года назад
@@olbiomoiros You don't know anything of Trabzon history. These were also the people that in rural communities actively protected the local Armenian population in 1915, that held back the Russian invaders in 1916, that protected the local Greek Orthodox population until the forced population exchange in 1923 (all those years Christians were living peacefully in many majority Muslim villages of the Of region), and even the wider Trabzon Muslim population protested the nationalist policies of the Kemalists during and after the war. The first Turkish opposition party was lead by Muslim politicians from the Trebizond region. They protested violence against Greeks, supported recognition of the ethnic diversity of the new Turkish republic, wanted powers stripped from Mustafa Kemal, and many of them were killed for their politics. A bit of respect please. It is true a majority of the people from these regions vote for conservative parties, but there has always been a very vocal and prominent opposition, and not all votes for a specific party have a clear meaning when you talk about ethnicity... For most of the 20th century Turkey was under control of the Kemalists, and in their media they called our community outright traitors, "fake turks", "crypto chistians", etc. What do you think the effect is of such pressure on a tiny minority?
@Venom45425
@Venom45425 2 года назад
Εν μέρει έχεις δίκιο αλλά εμείς πιστεύουμε στους Ολύμπιους θεούς δεν έχουμε καμία σχέση με τον χριστιανισμό. Άλλο χριστιανός άλλο Έλληνας και τα δύο δε γίνεται.
@imperatoralbanie7668
@imperatoralbanie7668 2 года назад
Respect to Greek Pontic people from a Catholic Albanian.
@denizkeremozer8857
@denizkeremozer8857 10 месяцев назад
They don't identify as greek. My gf's mother can fluently speak it. She would probably chase anyone calling her greek with a mangle LoL
@imperatoralbanie7668
@imperatoralbanie7668 10 месяцев назад
@@denizkeremozer8857 but its the same for everyone or?
@denizkeremozer8857
@denizkeremozer8857 10 месяцев назад
@imperatoralbanie7668 Yeah. I know it sounds nationalistic but it's what it's. Let's say 99.99 %. She always tells me not to call them Rum as her family would shoot me (no jokes). They absolutely refuse the idea of being greek. They don't even call the language greek, they call it romeika.
@KaraKral40
@KaraKral40 3 дня назад
Biz rum değiliz rumca biliyor ve konuşuyoruz ama müslümanız ve Türküz.
@J.RR.Tolkien
@J.RR.Tolkien 2 года назад
these people were able to preserve their language. Orthodox Turks who were deported from Karaman to Greece, unfortunately, their language was forgotten
@christospolyzoidis9507
@christospolyzoidis9507 Год назад
They identify themselves as Greeks (Karamanlides).
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 Год назад
Lmao orthodox turks the biggest lie 🤥
@J.RR.Tolkien
@J.RR.Tolkien Год назад
@@wankawanka3053 why. People choose religion.
@aaronn123
@aaronn123 Год назад
@@christospolyzoidis9507no they didn’t! They didn’t even speak Greek when they were send to Greece
@vp9115
@vp9115 10 месяцев назад
Come on! Karaman Orthodox community, according to the latest DNA analysis has no connection with DNAs of Central Asia. So, relax and forget this fairytale.
@hasanovski9713
@hasanovski9713 9 месяцев назад
I am learning Greek aswell, beautiful language.
@dmztrk
@dmztrk 10 месяцев назад
Hi from Germany! My father is originally from Trabzon (sürmene - sourmena). He doesn‘t know anything about his past or family background. He considers himself turkish because they were never taught anything else. He does not know any romaika but we use rum-words everyday! Especially when we talk about animals, fruits, vegetables etc. My mother is originally from Samsun. My DNA test told me I was 40% greek. I want to learn more about past sourmena. The village name is “Petekli/Magavla“. Maybe I can get in contact with people whose ancestors lived there with my ancestors. I‘m so invested in learning more about the history of my ancestors🇹🇷🇬🇷❤️
@user-hw7sk2ge7f
@user-hw7sk2ge7f Месяц назад
Αγαπητέ φίλε σε χαιρετώ αδελφικά, από τα Γιαννιτσά, βόρεια της Θεσσαλονίκης. Με πατέρα από τα Σούρμενα της Τραπεζούντας και με μητέρα από την Σαμψούντα θεωρώ ότι είσαι 100% Έλληνας του Πόντου. Η καταγωγή η δική μου είναι από ένα χωριό της Αργυρούπολης της Τραπεζούντας. Για εμάς δεν ήταν καθόλου δύσκολο να μάθουμε πράγματα για την καταγωγή μας και τον τόπο που γεννήθηκαν οι προπάτορες μας. Αν και στα δημόσια σχολεία λίγα πράγματα αναφέρονται στον Ποντιακό Ελληνισμό, υπάρχουν εκατοντάδες πολιτιστικοί σύλλογοι που μας μαρτυρούν τα πάντα. Σου συνιστώ, να παρακολουθήσεις στο ίντερνετ τις ετήσιες πανελλήνιες χορευτικές εκδηλώσεις, της πανελλήνιας οργάνωσης ποντιακών σωματείων. Στις εκδηλώσεις αυτές συμμετέχουν πλήθος πολιτιστικών σωματείων με εκατοντάδες χορευτές και μουσικούς. Είναι πράγματι ένα υπερθέαμα και προκαλεί ρίγοι συγκινήσεως σε όσους το παρακολουθούν. Κάθε χρόνο γίνεται και σε διαφορετική πόλη της Ελλάδας. Αγαπητέ φίλε και αδελφέ έχεις υποχρέωση να μάθεις πράγματα που σε αφορούν και που το Τουρκικό κράτος εσκεμμένα προσπάθησε να κρύψει από τους γονείς σου από εσένα και από τους απογόνους σου. Στην Γερμανία υπάρχουν αρκετοί ποντιακοί σύλλογοι. Πιστεύω πως οι Πόντιοι Έλληνες της Γερμανίας πρόθυμα θα σου παρέχουν κάθε πληροφορία που θα λύσει τα ερωτήματα σου. Καλή προσπάθεια και καλά αποτελέσματα.!!!
@mustafaileri5956
@mustafaileri5956 2 года назад
Yaşasın Pontus Yaşasın Rum Kültürü 💙💛
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
Stay strong 🇬🇷🦅
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 года назад
heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 года назад
@@21LeonidasZ heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 года назад
@HASCHI BISCHI heyy buddy i own a greco turkish friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@turquaturan4533
@turquaturan4533 Год назад
Sarı lacivert ne alaka lan?
@vp9115
@vp9115 2 года назад
Ωραίος!!! Μπράβο!
@pavlos814
@pavlos814 2 года назад
Μπράβο Τομ κάνεις καλή δουλειά
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 7 месяцев назад
Εξισλαμισμένη Έλληνες και το γνωρίζουν ότι έχουν ελληνική καταγωγή όχι όλη αλλά πάρα πολλοί
@T4rkrj
@T4rkrj 3 месяца назад
Ναι για αυτό σε ένα δωμάτιο έχουν 50 τουρκικές σημαίες
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 3 месяца назад
@@T4rkrj Έχουν εκτουρκιστεί πολλοί από αυτούς έπειτα δεν μπορούν να έχουν ελληνική σημαία στον Πόντο τους κυνηγάνε επίσης υπάρχουν και κρυπτοχριστιανοι
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
@@T4rkrj Και αυτή του Τσε Γκεβάρα 😆
@the_leon28
@the_leon28 Год назад
Hi from giresun(kerasuni)
@user-uj2yn8hm3e
@user-uj2yn8hm3e 2 месяца назад
Για σού Αδερφέ Πόλα καλά καλατσεφς τα ποντιακά!!
@basilakakoseleytherios4878
@basilakakoseleytherios4878 2 года назад
Great Job Tom Listen 4:26 The guy said :Απ'Όθεν έρθεταιν,They used the word Όθεν which means "from where" instead of "Απο Πού".Απ'Όθεν έρθετε means where are you from,From where you came here?
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler 2 года назад
I totally missed that. Are you a native Pontic speaker? It took ages for me to work out the translations as few people are fluent in Turkish, Pontic Greek and Modern Greek (or English).
@basilakakoseleytherios4878
@basilakakoseleytherios4878 2 года назад
@@tom_traveler Yes I am, and I can easily understand everything. At one point you asked People if they knew Greek(Hellinika)or Pontic(Pontiaka) For Muslims Rums the word Pontic is foreign! They never called themselves Pontians, but always Romans(Romaioi) and their Language Romeika/Rumca. Do you know why? Because the Byzantine Empire we call today was nothing more than the Eastern Roman Empire and the people Romans! These people converted to Islam in the 17th century, until 30 years ago,they hadnt the right to speak their language. Nevertheless, after genocides, massacres and pressures, they keep their language and customs.Their traditional Dance called "Horon" which means dance in Greek
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler 2 года назад
@@basilakakoseleytherios4878 I might need your help with some additional translations. Would that be ok?
@basilakakoseleytherios4878
@basilakakoseleytherios4878 2 года назад
@@tom_traveler ofc,i have great knowledge of pontic greek dialect,so its not difficult for me to translate
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler 2 года назад
@@basilakakoseleytherios4878 my email is tomstaph@yahoo.com. Thank you
@erinues7._-
@erinues7._- 2 года назад
they use a lot of pure ancient Greek words
@atillavedataydn1270
@atillavedataydn1270 Год назад
Bruh haha because we are real greeks you are gypsy in greece es are pontic greeks
@erinues7._-
@erinues7._- Год назад
@@atillavedataydn1270 F.O
@bestofriendoo5199
@bestofriendoo5199 2 года назад
Don't you have a pontic greek with you? I am and they speak ancient greek...I wish I could speak to them. Try these phrases: Te ftas? (what are you doing?), Oromeos ise?
@LondonPower
@LondonPower 2 года назад
My grand fathers used to live there we are the last Buzantines in Anatolia the heartlands of Byzantium
@alpers.6068
@alpers.6068 2 года назад
Ahahaha you've found the most leftist kahvehane in the black sea region. Great video!
@denizkeremozer8857
@denizkeremozer8857 10 месяцев назад
Quite interesting to see that kdkfkslf
@peynirformaggio6915
@peynirformaggio6915 2 года назад
♥️♥️🧿☺️
@shavho
@shavho 9 месяцев назад
Majority Muslims , or any majority in any country doesn’t adopt culture and religion of a different minority. They are clearly Greek converts. Hamshen Armenians converted hundreds of years ago, they still speak Armenian.
@stavrospaidarakis1452
@stavrospaidarakis1452 Год назад
Is the weather there always foggy?
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler Год назад
I was there in July and it was cold and foggy every day except at the coast in Trabzon where it was warm and sunny. But my guide was sharing pictures just last week of his cabin in the Pontus mountains, and it looked really nice. Generally-speaking, it is a cool, wet, climate in that area of the Black Sea, especially in the mountains.
@wix_61
@wix_61 Год назад
@@tom_traveler pontus mountains ? This is turkıye mountains
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler Год назад
Yup
@panikas2338
@panikas2338 Год назад
@@wix_61 they are in turkey but they are called pontus mountains, as the region is called pontus.
@sirteaplease2331
@sirteaplease2331 2 года назад
Pontus is alive !
@halildeniz5614
@halildeniz5614 2 года назад
No he is death
@wix_61
@wix_61 Год назад
Black Sea belongs to Turks and everyone living in it, but it is not Pontus
@sirteaplease2331
@sirteaplease2331 Год назад
@@wix_61 And you belong to Central Asia aka ur homeland.
@wix_61
@wix_61 Год назад
@@sirteaplease2331 Does the black sea belong only to the Greeks? My ancestors have been here for the last 200 years according to the records and this is my hometown.
@sirteaplease2331
@sirteaplease2331 Год назад
@@wix_61 And my ancestors colonized the black sea 3000 years ago but some barbarians came and conquered the colonies and Greeks still living there.
@kurdstylah
@kurdstylah 10 месяцев назад
It's sad to see the next generation won't even remember how to speak Greek. They won't even classify themselves as Greeks. Their language will become turkish and and call themselves turks. Very sad to see. This is the older generation and they only speak a little Greek.
@Socrates478
@Socrates478 6 месяцев назад
3:45 Eksi,epta,okto,enya,deka,endeka,dodeka😊
@romeika2744
@romeika2744 2 года назад
kala erθes semeteron merea. Auto ti ğlossa epomene emas aso rum osto ğar şincenune temeters. Omon to ipes auto to horiya simo uk(ç)en so politias. har esena kat na eroto erθes çe eporpadeses çe evres pu ekser romeika ti ğlossa. Gioksam ependesas atins? aksana permenumese çe seson to videoδasis.
@polha4966
@polha4966 2 года назад
Panta kala na iste
@greektv5492
@greektv5492 2 года назад
Aderfe mou apo ton Ponto eisai Kai omilis romeika eisai romios ?
@romeika2744
@romeika2744 2 года назад
@@greektv5492 TÜRKüm
@greektv5492
@greektv5492 2 года назад
@@romeika2744 romeika einai ellinika miazoune palaloume tora me touta Pou leis
@romeika2744
@romeika2744 2 года назад
@@greektv5492 ROMEİKA EN ROMEİKA. Asin trabezountan etoune i rizas?
@davitdavitdavit
@davitdavitdavit 10 месяцев назад
The Osman Empire just forcefully converted them to Islam. That's not acceptable in Islam at all.
@halilsahin6733
@halilsahin6733 4 месяца назад
👍
@aebcdghof5556
@aebcdghof5556 2 года назад
wtf :/ i'm originally from eastern black sea region but i raised in somewhere else. i have never known that people who can speak greek, drink rakı and hang communistic stuff on their walls are living in there. surprising !
@HighlandBlackStorm
@HighlandBlackStorm Год назад
Find Laş Meron in RU-vid as soon as possible
@nubnubdubdeh
@nubnubdubdeh 10 месяцев назад
Forcibly converted and told to be turk
@AC-ov2hn
@AC-ov2hn 4 месяца назад
That is simply not true. The assimilation process began with the Turkish Republic in 1923, where even other minorities like Kurds, Armenians, Arabs etc. had to be "turkified". The conversion had other roots, as with converting to Islam, the folk would have more opportunities during the ottoman era. So your comment indeed is irrational, not to forget that in Greece nearly all the mosques and synagogues built during the ottoman era were destroyed or left to demolition.
@Red-cp8gb
@Red-cp8gb 2 года назад
Trabzon!!!!
@Φοίβη-ν3χ
@Φοίβη-ν3χ 2 года назад
ΤΡΑΠΕΖΟΥΣ,ΠΑΝΑΡΧΑΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΠΟΛΙΣ.Η ΠΑΤΡΙΔΑ ΤΩΝ ΠΡΟΓΟΝΩΝ ΜΟΥ.ΤΗΝ ΑΓΑΠΩ!!!
@johngerles842
@johngerles842 2 месяца назад
Μην προσκυνατε βρε Ελληνες! Εμεις και τον θεό μας ορθιοι τον κοιτάζουμε!
@Socrates478
@Socrates478 6 месяцев назад
ZİTO O ELLAS ZİTO İ PONTOS🇬🇷❤🇬🇷
@user-qx3mq7ff5c
@user-qx3mq7ff5c 2 месяца назад
Halasa😂
@lalbash7543
@lalbash7543 3 месяца назад
Native original greeks from asia
@Nikos2000-c6n
@Nikos2000-c6n 17 дней назад
Correct Asia minor was the heart of Hellenism during the middle ages Byzantine times
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Год назад
Why do they have picture of Ataturk?
@kaderdeniz6760
@kaderdeniz6760 Год назад
Becuz they are turkish citizen and Atatürk is the founder of this country
@i_likemen5614
@i_likemen5614 Год назад
@@kaderdeniz6760 But he helped kill/kick out many Greeks
@HighlandBlackStorm
@HighlandBlackStorm Год назад
@@kaderdeniz6760 I don't like it but ok your answer is the most acceptable I suppose.
@Karkafs-Desiderium
@Karkafs-Desiderium Год назад
Massive propaganda campains during atatürks reign, it never really stopped.
@zera_61
@zera_61 Год назад
Respect and love? Türkiye is their home after all
@deumevet
@deumevet 2 года назад
the fact that young kids don't speak the language is depressing romeikas fate is pretty much decided, :(
@ZeusKyriacos
@ZeusKyriacos 2 года назад
Very true another 30 years and nobody will know it
@bumin6451
@bumin6451 2 года назад
Also take in consideration that most of these supposed “greeks” are heavy supporters of Erdogan and his decisions of islamification. Most conservative and religious(muslim) part of turkey.
@asnea7268
@asnea7268 2 года назад
well im 17 yo and i can speak it fluently
@deumevet
@deumevet 2 года назад
@@asnea7268 are you from trabzon?
@asnea7268
@asnea7268 2 года назад
@@deumevet yes I am (Kondu,Dernekpazari/Trabzon)
@seddar
@seddar 2 года назад
We dont know after 5🤣
@bilgiyolunda3016
@bilgiyolunda3016 Год назад
Tonya'da Che Guevra Atatürk dENİZ gEZMİŞ POSTERLERİ VAY VAY VAY
@ozanbayrak562
@ozanbayrak562 Год назад
Her tuşa basmışlar 😂😂😂
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
Indian leader 😁
@helioslegigantosaure6939
@helioslegigantosaure6939 Год назад
They basically dead ?
@Karkafs-Desiderium
@Karkafs-Desiderium Год назад
Most are because of genocide
@fartlivion9279
@fartlivion9279 Год назад
It’s hilarious all these guys can count only to five. Just enough to tell how many kids they have.
@nurettinsarul
@nurettinsarul Год назад
Yes, but not neccessary for them to be able to count more than 5. If they have got 6 children they can say "I have one more child after 5 children" 😂
@troubauk
@troubauk Год назад
Ο δίδυμος του Χάρρυ Κλυνν
@diesvonthun221
@diesvonthun221 2 года назад
TA ADERFIA MAS POU EMINAN STON PONTO!!!
@user-vv4et3pz5y
@user-vv4et3pz5y 2 года назад
Για αυτο φυγανε οι προπαππουδες μας για να γλυτωσουμε αυτα ...Στο τζαμι...
@Lunaraz1
@Lunaraz1 2 месяца назад
"Nearly half a million muslims left greece for turkey"😂
@Nikos2000-c6n
@Nikos2000-c6n 17 дней назад
These are native pontic Greek inhabitants of Pontus who speak a very old Greek dialect that have been living there for thousands of years they are not the Muslims of Greece who came in 1920
@Greek-rk6ok
@Greek-rk6ok Год назад
Как можно этих предателей назвать Эллином,а уж тем более Понтийцем?Пусть турками называются и Ататюрку молиться
@croatianwarmaster7872
@croatianwarmaster7872 Год назад
Oni govore grčki jezik.
@Greek-rk6ok
@Greek-rk6ok Год назад
@@croatianwarmaster7872 братуха,они самые настоящие предатели,я тебе как Понтиец это говорю
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 7 месяцев назад
@@Greek-rk6ok Προδότες θα ήταν αν ξεχνουσαν την γλώσσα τους τα έθιμα μουσική και παραδοσιακά φαγητά και πολλά άλλα το μόνο που μας χωρίζει είναι η θρησκεία γιατί αναγκαστικά άλλαξαν θρησκεία
@hikodzu
@hikodzu 11 месяцев назад
1 million in exchange for 500k? Very fair exchange lol
@JimmyTheGreek2000
@JimmyTheGreek2000 18 дней назад
Don't forget that what is now Turkey was part of the Byzantine Empire, as a result there were (in 1922) more Greeks in Turkey than Turks in Greece. Also, the population exchange was based on religion and NOT ethnic origins! Therefore, Greeks remained in Turkey and Turks remained in Greece, In particular the Thrace region of North Greece is full of muslim Turks In other words, if you were a christian in relegion (both Greek or Turk) you moved to Greece from Turkey, and the inverse from Greece to Turkey if you were muslim. The 'Turk-DNA project' which was initiated to prove that the Turks were pure (100%) of Turkish origin proved the exact oposite. The Turk-DNA project was canceled as the results were not so positive for national unity ! The Turks are a mixed-race group of Iranians Syrians, Armenians, Sebians, Bulgarians, Kurds and Greeks and even some Russians and Ukranians. For example, The Kurds are not of Turkish origin and want to have their own country some day !
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
Essentially, Greeks were exchanged for Greeks. Only the religion differed.
@actanonvebra5183
@actanonvebra5183 Год назад
Roman-GReek people❤
@uzisol
@uzisol 2 месяца назад
This is their land they have all greek origin and they are ex orthodox! Pity to see them like this … :(
@todayssubject7055
@todayssubject7055 2 года назад
nereyee geldik lann kahvehane dedik, kübahane cikti xd
@erhangenc3440
@erhangenc3440 10 месяцев назад
Her türden lideri koymuslar 😂
@millarybka9776
@millarybka9776 3 месяца назад
немає землі, немає народу, немає народу, немає мови!
@LondonPower
@LondonPower 2 года назад
Such a shame they become muslims like president Erdogan of Turkey he comes from Pontus and a Greek village call it Kerasia the cherry tree
@hellenicfighter3199
@hellenicfighter3199 2 года назад
Erdogan is from Rizunda, Name of the Village is Potamia
@WynkenDelirium
@WynkenDelirium 2 года назад
No shame to be a Muslim. In the same context Britons converted to Christianity from old ancestral beliefs.
@tonychamb4730
@tonychamb4730 2 года назад
Actually Erdogan is Laz
@cash6684
@cash6684 2 года назад
@@WynkenDelirium exactly, in fact, the Greeks themselves converted to Christianity from their ancient Greek religion worshipping Zeus and all the other gods. They lost their amazing heritage true Hellenic identity after converting to a Middle Eastern religion…now THAT is a shame lol
@turquaturan4533
@turquaturan4533 Год назад
It’s a shame when you are christian and think that jesus is a son of god 😂😂
@stavrosdelivasilis9774
@stavrosdelivasilis9774 2 года назад
Grek muslim
@stelios5314
@stelios5314 Год назад
I doubt if they are Greek given that they have Kemal's portraits all over the place...
@erhangenc3440
@erhangenc3440 10 месяцев назад
@@stelios5314zaten yunan değiller. Onlar Türk.
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 7 месяцев назад
Είναι εξισλαμισμένοι Έλληνες
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 7 месяцев назад
@@erhangenc3440 Είναι εξισλαμισμένοι Έλληνες
@apolonidisplaton4149
@apolonidisplaton4149 7 месяцев назад
@@stelios5314 Αυτό δεν παίζει κανένα ρόλο Είναι εξισλαμισμένοι Έλληνες
@christosnikoulis59
@christosnikoulis59 2 года назад
Religion is part of one’s identity. It defines your identity. Whole nations are built in religion differences. Bloodline it’s not everything.
@HighlandBlackStorm
@HighlandBlackStorm Год назад
Yeah right.... So you really believe that I would choose the Orthodox Russians, Bulgarians, Servs etc as brothers than my muslim Pontians with their karalahana and Kemence. 😂 I will break my Orthodox Eastern eggs with them in Kalandar on January, no problem. Bize her yer Trabzon.
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
Very few nations are built on religion
@MegaMayday16
@MegaMayday16 2 года назад
There you can see turkey was a bridge and Indo European language was spread over turkey Iran til India. You just compared the numbers and compare.the Greek the Armenian the kurdisch the Iranian languages. Amazing links
@coolguyt657
@coolguyt657 2 года назад
Are they Greek or Turkish people?
@greektv5492
@greektv5492 2 года назад
We'll they had Greek DNA and Greek language but the most of this people call her self Turks (her population was 345.000)
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 года назад
@@greektv5492 that’s how the Ottoman Empire works. You convert, you are now a Turk and have privileges.
@andabossftw
@andabossftw Год назад
Ethnic Greeks who have converted to Islam and assimilated into the Turkish population
@turquaturan4533
@turquaturan4533 Год назад
@@olbiomoiros That’s a lie greek. The Ottoman gived everybody the freedom to believe in what they want. Even when Istanbul was conquered.
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
@@turquaturan4533 Not completely true. Especially in the Iyidere and Of regions, there were forced conversions in the 18th and 19th centuries. Some local derebeys and imams were zealots, and went hard after the Christians. This area is also where the religious opposition to the late Ottoman and Kemalist reforms started. If you are interested in this history, which still shapes Turkish politics today, I would suggest the book 'A nation of Empire' by Michael Meeker.
@stelios43
@stelios43 2 года назад
0:43 The Pontic Greeks didnt just "left" their homes.It happened a war and a Genocide of 353.000 Pontic Greeks by the Turks and Kemal Ataturk.Ποντος ειναι η θαλασσα στα Αρχαια Ελληνικα για να τους φυγει η απορια."Ki" ερχεται απο το "Ουκι" σαν συντομια και ειναι αρχαιοελληνικο.
@alpugan23
@alpugan23 2 года назад
İt’s not true.. America, England, France makes Genocide.
@stelios43
@stelios43 2 года назад
@@alpugan23 its not true?my ancestors was there,go read Greek history
@alpugan23
@alpugan23 2 года назад
@@stelios43 It was war! And you say 353’000 greeks are died in a genocide. This is not possible. Also the lier with the genocide of the armenians. I can’t believe it.
@stelios43
@stelios43 2 года назад
@@alpugan23 Man there are 2 options.You are completely ignorant or you are saying nonsense on purpose .Pick up a choice..
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
With all due respect, while many Pontic Greeks were murdered, some militias also killed innocent Turkish civilians in return. The number of '350.000 Pontic Greeks who died in the genocide' isn't realistic as it is much higher than the entire Greek Orthodox community of Trebizond Province (official numbers indicate 250.000 Greek Orthodox in 1914). And they were certainly not all exterminated! Many tens of thousands died, perhaps even 100.000, but not 100%. Rather 20-30%, and in the eastern Black Sea region much less. In many districts east of Trabzon (and in the city itself), there were no hostilities between Greeks and Muslims, and the local Christians only had to leave in 1923 on the order of the Greek and Turkish state. They used to live peacefully together, as is explained in the museum of the village Nea Trapezounta, where the easternmost Pontic Greeks (form the Of-valley) migrated to.
@nurettinsarul
@nurettinsarul Год назад
Bunlara beşten fazla saymak zaten gerekmez. 6 çocukları varsa derler "5 çocuğun yanina 1 tane daha yaptık." 😂
@JJKjordan
@JJKjordan Год назад
Thank God my ancestors moved to Greece and kept their religion ☦️
@croatianwarmaster7872
@croatianwarmaster7872 Год назад
Become Catholic brother ✝️🇻🇦
@Mediterraneou
@Mediterraneou Год назад
Who cares religion, all brain wash anyway, like you had.
@Mediterraneou
@Mediterraneou Год назад
Greeks were not Christian before, its sad you all had to change your religion
@Unnecesary_Grik
@Unnecesary_Grik 11 месяцев назад
@@Mediterraneou wdym almost all ancient kingdoms like persia,greeks,romans and many others change their religion to Christianism, islam and etc
@makedonafinon
@makedonafinon 2 месяца назад
Это мне напоминает захваты инопланетянами людей и обращение в свою непонятную веру из корабля звучит это непонятные звуки и они падают и бьют челом
@elenafotiadi3762
@elenafotiadi3762 Год назад
Как больно на это смотреть
@Mediterraneou
@Mediterraneou Год назад
Why
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
2:03 2:15 3:01 To be honest, having nationalistic posters of the person that basically massacred and hunted your ancestors out of necessity, ignorance and/or fear makes me very upset.
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
@died I wouldn't agree with that, at least for the specific people shown. I mean they literally speak a Greek dialect. Besides, I included the fraction of people that you mentioned (feeling Turk when one has Greek origins) by saying "out of ignorance" as well.
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
@died Well my friend, the most nationalists are always the ones that want to prove how much [blank] they are, it is no surprise, just sad. There are always people that act like this because there is some self-hate hidden (I speak obviously for extreme cases). Lastly, saying that one speaks a language "because others near me spoke it" is the definition of denial.
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
@died Jokes on them Rum is coming from medieval Roman empire (Byzantine empire). Byzantine empire is of Greek heritage, even the last Roman king said that to his speech before the battle in Constantinople. Greeks were living for millennials in Anatolia and the "Caucasian Hellenization" is bs. Most of the cities in Pontus region were created by the Greeks (Trabzon, Kerasus, Sinope and so on, idk Turkish version of the names).
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
@died Be proud of who you are and ignore those people my friend. True Greeks don't forget that there are people of Greek origins - Greek/Rum that still live in Turkey. I am of Pontic Greek descent myself.
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
@died Well you probably know better but if you have/had relatives that speak Greek then it could be possible. Take care (in Turkish xD).
@Em_-yd6mi
@Em_-yd6mi 2 года назад
That’s very sad to see
@turquaturan4533
@turquaturan4533 Год назад
Why?
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Год назад
Why,are you uncomfortable hahahahahhaah,
@bumin6451
@bumin6451 2 года назад
Biggest supporters of Erdogan!
@DigoronKavkaz
@DigoronKavkaz 2 года назад
Its because Erdogan invests in these remote areas of Turkey whereas the more Europhilic parties in Turkey do not
@aybuke2279
@aybuke2279 2 года назад
Ahahah cidden öylen
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
No, we are not. If you look at the election results, Tonya and Çaykara districts are actually some of the least conservative voters in the wider region (Trabzon, Rize, Bayburt, Gümüşhane provinces). Still a heavy majority for conservative parties, but a strong secular minority! The biggest supporters of Erdogan can be found in the surrounding areas where they have Armenian heritage (not Greek), such as the other provinces that I named. Also the support for Erdogan is much higher in Central Anatolia and the western Black Sea region.
@bumin6451
@bumin6451 Год назад
@@i.k.8868 Tonya -> 61% AKP Çaykara -> 65% AKP Don’t kid yourself! The Black sea region has always been electing the major conservative party throughout the history of the republic. Islamic traditions and conservative values are strictly undeniable in those regions…
@i.k.8868
@i.k.8868 Год назад
@@bumin6451 Read my post again, and compare those results with adjacent districts in Rize, Bayburt and Gümüshane. There they vote 80-90÷ for AKP. Like I said, Tonya and Caykara have a heavy concervative majority, but a strong secular minority. So definitely NOT the biggest supporters of Erdogan!
@daimonioshellene
@daimonioshellene 2 года назад
There is no Romaic language. It is not Romaic the language that you are speaking. It is Hellenic from Pontus.
@BarbieQueen1990
@BarbieQueen1990 2 года назад
They call it that because of the roman empire that once ruled the region. To us it is pontiaka or pontian greek
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
Both are correct. It is Romeika coming from ancient Hellenic.
@panos3483
@panos3483 2 года назад
Byzantinisches reich. hellenisch sprachige Dominanz.mit der tilurierung des Königs und nicht mehr Kaiser seit spätestens König Heraklion und König Mithridates.von Pontos tötete 80.000 Römer ich hätte Alle vernichtet.nicht nur Judas war schuld an issous leiden der Römer ist auch beteiligt und nun nennt sich der anti Christ katholisch.ps meine Vorbilder sind Pyrros.Perseus.Spartakus.Mithridates.und Hannibal.
@lefteris9741
@lefteris9741 Год назад
as a greek i find it really strange that the greek speakers of pontus have to face kemal ataturk in every place they go
@lefteris9741
@lefteris9741 Год назад
@@muratsahin951 yea bc they are turkified you too check your dna first
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Год назад
Let me tell you one more thing that you will find strange, they are all deeply Turkish nationalists.
@lefteris9741
@lefteris9741 Год назад
@@TUNC66 because everyone support their country as hell and turks in greece love more greece than turkey
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Год назад
@@lefteris9741 Lefteris, you Greeks are growing up with too many imaginary dates. None of those in this video are Laz or Greek, buy a ticket and go there, you'll see it with your eyes and you'll be disappointed, plus it's perfectly normal for Turks in Greece to love their country, and it should be.
@dantepr1566
@dantepr1566 Год назад
@@lefteris9741 hell, of course we will see his face every place we go. don't you read some of the 'real' greeks' comments that say we are traitors just because our ancestors converted to islam. if these fellas are gonna try to invade again you can be sure we again will take the side of the turks 🤷‍♂
@neenabzamro3759
@neenabzamro3759 5 месяцев назад
black sea greeks were massacred in the thousands and these people’s ancestors’ identity and most importantly religion were forcefully changed by the ottomans same goes to some villagers of armenian decent living east of pontus that speak armenian but identify as turkish muslims. I just cant imagine what horrible things the ottomans did to the christians of that region from Armenians to Black sea greeks to the Assyrians. may they all rest in peace and for these living descendants to go back to theur roots again.
@ibrahimdemirbas5073
@ibrahimdemirbas5073 2 года назад
Bro, Bruh. İts my village, so no one can speak greek in my village. Maybe someones know greek in the east of Trabzon. But this video isnt true.
@stelios5314
@stelios5314 Год назад
I dont think that they are Greek given that they have Kemal's portraits all over the place.
@ratnik_7
@ratnik_7 7 месяцев назад
2:03 this is very sad actually and we see very clear what Turkification has done , this guy right there in the flag Ataturk is the one who genocided us and now our people having him in the flag , the flag of our genociders , they forget the Greek Genocide , the forget the ones who slaughtered us. Greeks remember we are Greeks , we aren't Turks , never forget our roots! 🇬🇷
@meme-potentialsearch8010
@meme-potentialsearch8010 Год назад
They betrayed Armenians and sided with turks, and still most of them flee at the end of 1920.
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Год назад
Don't talk nonsense.
@enzolorenzo7161
@enzolorenzo7161 2 года назад
i am Greek pondi, and i dont see them as greek or pondi, they are turk muslims fascist now, so for me i dont care about them, but pondi in armenia, russia ukraine, greece etc its my familey greatings from a greek who lives in sweden
@erinues7._-
@erinues7._- 2 года назад
Yes
@Em_-yd6mi
@Em_-yd6mi 2 года назад
I share your opinion brother. I am an orthodox pontos greek from Germany 🇬🇷☦️
@iliaskets7206
@iliaskets7206 2 года назад
İ am from Trabzon. We are the most nationatist area all around the Turkey. So we have nothing to do with you
@hayal6539
@hayal6539 2 года назад
Sweet. Gotta love the ignorance ! U can hate us all u want - it doesn't change the fact that we share the same genes, culture , language etc. Don't call us fascists either , just because we love Turkey - the country we live in. Sometimes I truly don't understand what the Christian pontics expect from us Muslim ones. Are we supposed to hate Turkey ? Is that what u want ?
@fatihersayn7877
@fatihersayn7877 2 года назад
@@hayal6539 Apaçık ihanet etmeni istiyorlar. Pkk gibi kurşun sık, kardeş kanı akıt, iç savaş çıkar, bölmeye çalış, başkalarının vesayet savaşına alet ol istiyorlar. Bunlar hep böyleydi ve hep böyle kalacaklar. Sen tamamen onlardan olana kadar onlar asla senden razı olmayacak ve seni öteki görecekler. Aralarında en zararsız, cana yakın görüneni bile bir yerde senin Türkiye'ye, Türk milletine, Türk devletine olan uzaklığına, tersliğine hoş bakacaktır. Ben Türk hissediyorum ve Türkler benim kardeşimdir de, en hümanisti bile rahatsız olur.
@plsegott
@plsegott Год назад
Pontus is very unique. It's correct name is Lazica. Both "Turks" and "Greeks" from Pontus are assimiliated Lazes. Same goes for Hemshins who are Armenian speaking Lazes. It doesn't matter if they speak Laz, Greek, Armenian or Turkish, they have been called Lazes by the rest of Anatolia for centuries and this phenomenom still persists to this day. It is probably the one region in the region which has preserved its genetic profile for thousands of years and still does, unlike Greece or Anatolia whose native populations have been dilluted with Turks, Slavs and Albanians. On the cover it may look like things changed, but neither the "Greek Colonies" or "Turkish Settlers" have had any genetic impact on the population. While it is very interesting and it might be sad that Romeika is dying in Turkey, one has to realize that the Pontic Muslims has a lot more to gain from embracing a Muslim and Turkish identity rather than a Greek one (or even their original one Laz before Hellenization by the Orthodox Church). Pontic Muslims are the dominant group in trade and government in Turkey and also have a high group cohesion, even though they have fully embraced a Turkish identity. The cultural diffrence between Trabzon and the rest of the Turkey is very sharp. I know the same diffrence exists in Greece, where Pontic Greeks are negatively prejudiced as short-tempered and aggressive (usually pontic greeks beat the greek kids in schools). Diffrence is Pontic Greeks don't have a their own cities or territories in Greece and will probably vanish in Greece before the 22nd century. In Turkey they still live in their ancestral homelands and will probably keep their genetic and cultural profile in-tact for hundred of years to come. For Pontian Greeks that actually care about preserving their culture, you only shot at this is moving back to Turkey.
@nikim5051
@nikim5051 Год назад
I know plenty of pontians in Australia who are manipulative and quick to get into heated arguments. An attitude that is taught and considered the norm within the pontic community. Furthermore, many have had DNA testing and have found to have larger percentages of DNA from Turks and the Caucasus rather than Greek.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 11 месяцев назад
Insecure laz found
@Ecclesiastes11718
@Ecclesiastes11718 10 месяцев назад
The correct name is "Euxeinos Pontos",Lazica is what Laz people call it.Stop this "assimilated Laz" horsehit
@vp9115
@vp9115 10 месяцев назад
New propaganda after a total demolition of the well promoted fairytale re Central Asian descent of people of Trabzon.
@vp9115
@vp9115 10 месяцев назад
​@@nikim5051Man, have Pontic Greeks offended you somehow in Australia? It sounds very personal. Do not hate them, there are many not bad Pontic Greeks also.
@facckeleins4053
@facckeleins4053 2 года назад
The need to come back to Christianity
@greenpeace6433
@greenpeace6433 2 года назад
Christianity destroyed the Great Roman Empire. You know that in the Roman Empire they performed operations on the cornea of ​​the eye. All these beliefs and myths, which came from the Jewish desert, did not give anything progressive to the world. Science and art degraded for many centuries with the advent of Christianity and then Islam.
@dimk735
@dimk735 2 года назад
@@greenpeace6433 ehhh, you are actually wrong. the fall of the roman empire has nothing to do with any religion. internal strife, incompetent rulers and the huge number of outside enemies(vandals, goths etc) that kept attacking non stop, is what destroyed the western(not the eastern) roman empire. i believe that it is for the best not to talk if you do not know.
@21LeonidasZ
@21LeonidasZ 2 года назад
They need to know their Greek origins mostly (if they don't). I think associating religion with an ethnic identity is outdated. It is perfectly normal for a Greek to be Muslim, especially when he/she lives in a Muslim country.
@aao7785
@aao7785 2 года назад
@@21LeonidasZ agreed religion and culture get mixed up way too much and let’s be honest not many people are going to be religious within the next few generations
@doga9670
@doga9670 2 года назад
@@21LeonidasZ They’re not Greek origin! 😂 They’re Anatolians who were colonized by Greeks, we may speak Greek or Turkish, Muslim or Christian but we’re all Anatolian in origin, not European.
@user-me5vf3bq1q
@user-me5vf3bq1q 2 года назад
They lost the Greek identity.They are turks.
@geo3336
@geo3336 2 года назад
@SarrumSaBabilim they will remember their origin when we defeat you. . blood is blood they are Greeks
@jackholler3572
@jackholler3572 2 года назад
@@geo3336 Lol you should worry whether greek language can survive this century
@geo3336
@geo3336 2 года назад
@@jackholler3572 it has survived thousands of years mongol
@jackholler3572
@jackholler3572 2 года назад
@@geo3336 It is because of our tolerance you slave
@jackholler3572
@jackholler3572 2 года назад
@TK Lol we worth 100 times than greece.We are even more benefical to europe than you. You are not even a player.
@jimstathis7748
@jimstathis7748 11 месяцев назад
as a pontic greek who doesn’t know pontic i don’t understand a thing
@DaimonaC
@DaimonaC 2 года назад
They speak Greek and the poster of ataturk is crying behind them 🤣
@SB-ik1yi
@SB-ik1yi 2 года назад
they speak greek and proudly an voluntuarily put ataturk posters. it should be you crying:)
@DaimonaC
@DaimonaC 2 года назад
@@SB-ik1yi dude, you are not even Turks , you are mixed tribes compiled together trying hard to unite them with fake nationalism, you even have 30 mil Kurds inside you lol Here in mainland we are 100% Greeks if you except immigrants ,There are still Greek speakers in Turkey many more than you think , who is crying ? lol
@SB-ik1yi
@SB-ik1yi 2 года назад
@@DaimonaC nobody is hundred percent that nation. we reigned three continents, and of course people mixed, married etc.you have sailor ancestors, do you consider they did not ? kurds are not minorities by the way. not all of them but there are seperatists, there are turks, albanians and macedonians in greece. but dont feel upset with that. overcome being a racist.
@DaimonaC
@DaimonaC 2 года назад
@@SB-ik1yi after the 1950’s anti-Greek pogrom of Constantinople , you made all Greeks flee the city. Since then, there is NOT SUCH THING as turk in Greece, forget them, they are Muslim Greeks. Macedonians ? I am Macedonian. If you mean the Bulgarians of fyrom, nah. Albos? They came as immigrants , dude , wtf are talking about ? Kurds are living in Anatolia before even Greeks came lol I’m not a racist , your country is.
@DaimonaC
@DaimonaC 2 года назад
@@Jedart98 understand what ? Them ? We have the same language I understand everything they say .
@piratehunter6091
@piratehunter6091 Год назад
As a greek Orthodox from Anatolia it disgusts me seeing the modern pontic Greeks supporting Attaturk and being Muslims
@lessssssgooooo
@lessssssgooooo 9 месяцев назад
They are traitors but you have to pitty them they where brainwhashed
@ersinermis7769
@ersinermis7769 8 месяцев назад
Hain olanlar türk topragindan sürüldüler olmayanlari Atatürk türk vatandasliginla mükafatlandirdi karadeniz insani türkiyenin en zenginleri ne mutlu türküm diyene !
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
Muslims , Christians.... Orthodox, Catholic, Coptic, Shia, Sunni, Sufi.... Abrahamic religions always divided and never united. GREEKS is all there is in the Mediterranean. From Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya..... to France, Italy, Albania.... to Ukraine, Georgia, Turkey....
@egonvelaj4237
@egonvelaj4237 9 месяцев назад
The Treaty of Lausanne of 1923 between Greece and Turkey provided for the exchange of population. The Greeks would go to Greece and the Turks would go to Turkey. The Greek state lied and filled the ships with Albanian Muslims, considering them Turks only because they were Muslims, even though they did not know a word of Turkish. They forced them to their lands of thousands of years and took them to the desert plains of Anatolia. While the Pontiac population was exiled to Greece just because they were Orthodox, even though they did not know a word of Greek. They told you that they were the descendants of Aristotle and they believe even today that they are the descendants of Aristotle. You yourself are saying that you should preserve your language by passing it on to your children. It means that you are not Greek and speak a language different from Greek.
@user-bo6kx6js2c
@user-bo6kx6js2c 3 месяца назад
The only Orthodox Greek people who came here from Turkey by treaty of Lausanne where the people who lived in Kapadokia and all these people spoke only the Turkish language nothing else all the others had been spoken Greek
@turgayyildiz7381
@turgayyildiz7381 Год назад
Yunanistan turkiyete iki saat dayanamaz OHİ
@kaderdeniz6760
@kaderdeniz6760 Год назад
Savaş çığırtganlığı yapma
@turgayyildiz7381
@turgayyildiz7381 Год назад
@@kaderdeniz6760 savaş kesin malesef her halükarda kesin farkında olmak lazım yani 2030 kadar bu savaş olacak gerek siyasi gerek hadislerde bile var
@neotrnty4717
@neotrnty4717 Год назад
turkiye ayni anda tum balkanlara ve irana karsi savasabilcek gucte turklerin askeri zekasi 4000 bin senedir bizi buralara tasidi NE MUTLU TURKUM DIYENE
@geogeo2299
@geogeo2299 6 дней назад
Your name is turgay?
@antoniescargo1529
@antoniescargo1529 2 месяца назад
Keine Untertitel 🖕🖕🖕
@ZulisinGunlugu
@ZulisinGunlugu 7 месяцев назад
Not Greek. Romaika👍
@Siomn779nil
@Siomn779nil 5 месяцев назад
RÙM
@borub.817
@borub.817 3 месяца назад
Romaika is Hellenic dialect. So it is greek. They dont call it Greek because they never lived in todays Greece. They lived in the byyantine empire. so its normal that they call themselfs as Romaioi or just Pont. But in the end of they day they have similar dna to Hellas, Greece
@atakanbaltac3595
@atakanbaltac3595 Месяц назад
end of the day they r turks
@gregn7806
@gregn7806 Год назад
The Pontian language is not Greek. Just because they mix a few Greek words into their own dialect doesn't mean that they are Greek. And those few Greek words they use, they say them wrong. They have simply copied them and added them to their dialect. Pontians are not Greek, and their culture has nothing to do with Greek. They have no Greek characteristics or connections to be called Greeks. These are their own creations!
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler Год назад
What branch of the Indo-European tree is it on?
@gregn7806
@gregn7806 Год назад
@@tom_traveler clarify the question...
@kourou_official8556
@kourou_official8556 Год назад
@@tom_traveler bro it literally is the closest to ancient greek and has a lot of greek culture what are you on
@odysseasntalias5950
@odysseasntalias5950 Год назад
Very convenient opinion for a turk. Not only they are greek but they use ancient greek idioms that modern Greeks no longer use. Since they were converted to islam by force (kilic musulman) at the first centuries they were "krypto christians" who were muslims by day and practiced christian worship secretely at nights....
@TUNC66
@TUNC66 Год назад
I totally agree, these Greeks are kidding themselves.
@KaraKral40
@KaraKral40 3 дня назад
Biz rumca biliyoruz ailem dedelerim hepsi akıcı rumca konuşurlardı ben çok çok az biliyorum konuşamıyorum. Ama biz rum değiliz türküz. Müslümanız. Müslümanlar hep bir millet olmuş sonra ulus devlet kurulunca da tüm müslümanlar türk adı ile bu devletin çatısı altında türk kimliği ile birleşmiş. Kökenlerimizin Rum çıkması bu sonucu değiştirmez kendimizi Türk bilir Türk tanır Türk hissederiz. Bizim buralardan çok kalabalık Ortodoks gruplarda yunanistana gitmiş. Eskileri bilen Yaşlıların Dediklerine göre ama o giden ortodoksların da ekseriyetle çoğunluğu hiç rumca bilmez hep türkçe konuşurlar türk gibi yaşarlarmış. Belki de onlarda köken olarak Türktüler ama ortodoks olduklarından Yunanlılara yakındılar ve bu yüzden de gönderildiler ve insanlar onlara şimdi Yunan diyor Yunan kimliği altında birleştiler. Doğrusu ne fark eder herkes ne hissediyorsa odur.
@tom_traveler
@tom_traveler 2 дня назад
Thanks for sharing
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