What's the difference between Grey Jedi and the Sith? Enjoy this video as we dissect the codes of both the Grey and Sith and who ultimately had more of a potential for power.
Bieng a grey jedi, they get to give into their emotions whilst keeping a check on their sanity. They get to use their rage against their enemies whilst keeping their compassion for their loved ones, making their potential for fighting and using the force much more then Jedi and Sith. This is the way.
This is only one side of the story. The force must have balance, and straying to far to one side is always a threat. They dont get to "use" emotions in battle, they have to actively fight against them otherwise they succumb to the dark side. Being a grey jedi means you are at all times enduring a constant war inside yourself. One side always wins, a grey jedi simply prolongs this process. Imagine it like this, grey jedi are not in a place where they have discovered "true enlightment" or anything like that, instead they are standing atop a pinhead, and even the slightest deviation from their chosen path with make the pin topple over and they will be consumed.
To quote Kyle Katarn in Jedai Academy "No ability is inherently good or bad it's how you use it." "It's okay to feel angry but don't let anger control you." "Both sides of the Force Light and Dark are two sides of the same spectrum what path you walk depends on your choices."
@AF Noorzai kinda? the grey jedi are just usually pretty against interference of any kind. They're normally put in a bad light because of that, but fundamentally their credo and supposed beliefs are a lot healthier than either the jedi or the sith. Also I'm pretty sure they're the only side that thinks love is something that can be embraced. Not even the sith tolerate it and I don't have to explain what the jedi think on it.
Grey Jedi are just Sith, who fell for Jedi propaganda, that Sith are evil, and Jedi are good. Jedi are authoritarian, who need to oppress everyone. That is why Sith want power to be free. In every authoritarian regime, there is always someone telling you, what you have to do. You cannot just decide to be free. Like kommunists, or feudal nobility didn't simply let everybody do, what they wanted. Sith are seen as evil, because they challenge Jedi status.
Well, the Sith do try to bend the Force to their will, but ultimately they instead enslave themselves. By trying to bend the Force to their will, the Force makes them crave power. The stronger a Sith becomes, the stronger they want to be, it's never enough for them. In the Old Republic, it was the Sith who destroyed themselves. Their lust for power lead the Sith Empire into a civil war, which almost resulted in their complete destruction. So in short, the Sith are also slaves to the Force, the Dark side.
Elite gamer being addicted to something means you become dependent on consuming something even if it destroys you. That’s what sith do it the force their not being controlled by it their becoming addicted to controlling it which then destroys them.
The concept "there is no dark, there is no light, only the force" has been an idea that has floated around for ages now, going back to the je'daii comics and the dawn of the jedi series. Personally, i like how this serial explained it, as well as naming the supposed sides. The dotj series explains that a force wielder should aspire to be like the planet tython, as they call it, a state of bendu, balanced between the ebbs of the twin moons, Bogan and Ashla. If one leaned to close to Bogan, or the darkness, they would begin to become corrupted and burned from inside, if they leaned to far to Ashla, or the light, they would become blinded by the light and not see. To correct this, the je'daii who leaned to far to one side or moon, would be sent to the opposite moon to meditate and find bendu or balance. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no fear, there is power. I am the heart of the Force. I am the revealing fire of light. I am the mystery of darkness. In balance with chaos and harmony, Immortal in the Force.
Ever since I first discovered the grey Jedi and what they are I've held the firm belief that that would be the correct path for any rational force wielder to follow. I've always thought of the force as simply the force with out a light or dark side.
the funny part is that in the legends series there is a story about the first jedi. they who used both light and dark but looked down upon those who strayed too far into either. the first jedi WERE greys
I disagree with the Grey Jedi comment that good doesn't exist without evil. Light always wipes out darkness and reveals truth. The darkness can't overcome light.
I used to like the Light side, but seeing how the Grey is more open minded and is the closest grounded in reality than the other two, I have to go with the Grey side
Hunter3457 I don’t think you could call Yoda close minded, in his 900 years of life, he’s likely the most open minded person in the galaxy, and he is basically the avatar of the light side. The Grey Jedi wall a dangerous path, the Darkside is shown to be inherently dangerous, it corrupts it deforms and it is addictive. There’s a reason the Jedi distance themselves from it. I think it is inherently bad.
The Grey Jedi aren't in itself a problem but it is true the chances of one falling to the darkside is far bigger in with the Grey Jedi and those that don't usually are the ones that isolate themselves standing in the middle doing nothing but watch as the galaxy burns and grows again to burn once again
Trajan In the Clone Wars series, the final episodes where Yoda sees the Whilis to learn how to exist after death (force ghost like Qui Gon), they show him how closed minded and arrogant he is, but he learns quickly and passes their tests.
It's not that Qui-Gon was a grey Jedi, he is a true Jedi. The Jedi order as a majority lost their way more concerned with being bound by their code and serving the Republic then doing the will of the Force
Nor is Ahsoka a grey Jedi, she's not any kind of Jedi. What she becomes after Rebels is unknown, but I think for most of her journey, she is simply a force user leaning towards the light side. The Jedi are an organization and a way of life, not an alignment.
I hate the term gray Jedi so much, it's like enlightened centrist BS. One of the biggest dropped plotpoints of the EU was the Altisian Jedi, who were led by Altis when he left the Order. He was chill af and friends with Qui-Gon and allowed members to have families and multiple apprentices and basically they cleaned up after the republic bulldozed planets. Anakin and Asohka worked with them in a novel and it helped edge them ever further from the Order. A lot of the remaining members went on to help Luke with the new order
Except that the dark side is a cancer for the force. (Just like Disney is for Cinema) The dark side powers are a corruption of the force, the dark side path or way of life, that really is a different philosofy of the force
I mean, if we forget the Dark Side powers and that there are different groups of force users, the Je'dai and Gray Jedi are the closest to true freedom through the force, but then again, the Dark Side corruption is so strong that force users they either follow one path or the other
There is no Dark Side, nor a Light Side There is Only the Force I will do what I must to keep the balance The balance is what keeps me together There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish There is passion, Yet peace Serenity, Yet emotion Chaos, Yet order I am the wielder of the flame, the protector of balance I am the holder of the torch, lighting the way I am the keeper of the flame, soldier of balance I am a guardian of balance I am a Gray Jedi
@@whitewolf7179 Jolee Bindo was much, much greyer than Revan, and way older. And had the proper grey philosophy: don't get involved in anything. How is Mace Windu grey?
GrantKP the light side of the force is too weak I would be a Grey Jedi. being a grey Jedi with mean being able to balance between the dark and the light I would Master both the light and the dark using the light to balance the dark. the balance between these two would give me strength. I will protect the ones I love I could use my knowledge to keep myself away from falling to the dark being able to draw upon it. the gray Jedi are simply more powerful because they allow themselves to move freely throughout the force.
A truth sith does not kill over a disagreement. A true sith only kills when you are no longer of use. Such is the way of nature itself, thus the sith are not wrong in this. An old male lion is replaced with a stronger, more capable male. When a predator senses weakness in a herd it goes for the weakness because weakness is not tolerated.The strong ensure the survival of future life, the weak would only doom it. Embrace that fact or die forever a fool.
@@cultofmalgus1310 A true Sith kills to prove their power, to prove a point, or because it's fun. Or because they're bored. Even by the standards of dark side Force users, the Sith are pants-on-head crazy.
Interesting, I didn’t know that the gray Jedi were an actual organization with a code. I thought it was just another word for a former Jedi who used both the Light and Dark Sides.
Yeah. Now that I know its an, or at least once was, I can only imagine what if Anakin came across one of their temples or holocrons and chose to follow their code before Sheev could corrupt him.
Grey Jedi is like the anti hero in the starwars universe. Whenever some asks me "Sith or Jedi" I always say gray Jedi. It's pretty boring to be an emotionalless person and feeding off your anger and pain isn't gonna help you. So with the gray Jedi you get the best of both worlds really. You get to have feelings and emotions but not letting it corrupt you.
Jedi aren't as sissy as you might think.You just don't see all of their abilities in the movies.For instance Plant Surge sounds like a crappy ability,but is very much used in combat,and can kill an enemy if necessary.
Jedi get killed all the time from darksiders,because they just don't get powerful enough fast enough.Since this is a huge flaw in the movies and books,the franchise should just end.
"feeding off your anger " You'll be surprised just how beneficial focusing and channelling your anger can be in real life. But the important thing here is to always keep any emotion, including anger, subordinate to cold thinking and judgement, which is the real challenge.
Many think it's the best way, they don't understand that they are the worst of both ideas: the apathy of the Jedi and the desire to keep those close to them, which will innevitably lead yo the dark side
@@dyfrigshandy you may believe whatever lie it gives you confort, but all jedi who were considered "Grey" either ended up as Sith or fuck off to remote planets while the galaxy suffered
Galen was pretty much just made to be the best at three things: fighting, winning, and surviving. Who cares about all that philosophy fumpstercluck jargon when you can potentially be the most powerful (mortal) Force wielder in the Galaxy(at the time)?
ive always thought, that the sith code is superior to the jedi code. the sith code does not inherently tell you to be evil, but to use you passion, to gain power and thous freedom, how ever, power is changable. power of wealth, politics, or raw combat ability are all different versions of power. the dark side is never stated to be necessary, eventhough many sith believe it is, and the sith code is more a guide to freedom, instead of advocation for the darkside. the jedicode on the otherside is ignorant, and limiting, and even if it promotes peace, it also tells you to give up everything that is worth living for in live. SITH CODE ALL THE WAY BABY
yeah the sith code is fine, the various orders that popped up decided to have power at all cost. id argue the jedi order is also fine... till you get 10,000 monks who wont do anything about rising poverty and destruction
What about someone who has a lightsaber, likely having found it, and has force sensitivity and has taught themselves some measure of force abilities, all with absolutely no contact or involvement with jedi or sith what do you call them, if you call them anything at all
they could be considered grey if the rejected both jedi and sith but developed their own... i guess this is why they call it "grey" where you have Jedi - "white" and Sith - "Black" the "Grey" are between.... and i would assume there are variants between them.
Captain Princess Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order call them "Force Adepts", and left them alone so long as they didn't fall to the dark side and hurt people.
While the path of the Grey Jedi does seem to make the most sense, there are a couple fatal flaws to them when you analyze the more prominent Grey Jedi. They either turn into apathetic cowards choosing to hide away whenever injustices happen rather than act (Jolee Bindo, Zez-Kai Ell and current Luke Skywalker) or they're just a small push away from fully embracing the dark side and becoming psychopathic killers even more so than regular Jedi (Kyle Katarn, Jaden Korr and, from the looks of things, Kylo Ren). I do think that the path of the Grey is the best, but I have yet to see any Grey Jedi break from this pattern.
J.C. Gleason Grey jedi arent closer to the dark side nor the light side they are truly free and can use sith powers and jedi powers they can become the strongest using the power of the sith and the knowledge of the jedi
+RandomBloke On paper that's true. In practice, it's hard to maintain that. The Dark Side isn't simply a tool, it is a corrupting influence that requires constant vigilance and will to keep at bay (this includes knowing when your seemingly selfless desires begin to become self-serving. Easier said than done). The Grey Jedi is an unattainable goal without being either light leaning but apathetic or dark leaning and torn.
J.C. Gleason Honestly that’s most likely an artifact of Star Wars’ classic story structure. There’s the light, and the dark. Those are the only significant players in the conflict. There cannot be a third faction that is anything more than ineffectual. The Star Wars narrative all but demands that grey Jedi be weak and ineffectual, so the spotlight can remain on the Jedi on the sith. So while you have a good point, I don’t think it’s fair to place the blame on a loose organization of Mavericks that, quite honestly, are victims of narrative more than anything else.
Yeah that's true. Like I said, if the Jedi existed in our world the path of the Grey would definitely be the best. It seems like, ever since the release of Last Jedi, that the main Star Wars canon is only just now starting to add more complexity to the whole Light vs Dark thing. Though I doubt it'll ever reach the levels as the EU (case and point: Revan's character and story).
Finally. A guy who thinks that the grey Jedi wouldn't work. A lot of the people in the fan base thinks that a grey Jedi is the balance in the Force, when in reality there are not, but rather apathetic cowards who go away from civilization , when they can do something about the perpetual wars between the Jedi and the Sith. There's also another kind of grey Jedi, it would be Luke's Jedi Order, they train adults meaning they have already connections to their families and friends, but because of that, their fall of the dark side to be quicker, This already happened in both Legends and Canon, and, you know what, Luke's Jedi Order didn't last a millennium or two centuries, and in the Canon, It didn't even last for a century. I kinda wish that the people in the Star Wars fanbase learn that their fanfic grey Jedi would not actually work and that the Force is not some ying and yang thing, but rather be apathetic cowards just like the Bendu from the Rebels T.V Show or they just made themselves falling to the dark side quicker just like Anakin who let his emotions flow through him and tried to stay in the light side, but ultimately failed. In the words of Kreia. "Apathy is Death. Worse than Death" -Kreia
In my life now I will say I would be a Gray Jedi, the reason why is because each stage in my life I was in each order. As a child I idolized the Jedi and grew up wanted to be one but as a teen all I had was hatred towards the world due to what it’s taken from me my father and I then idolized the Sith. Now as a young adult I know I would finally rest in the Grey because I don’t idolize nether group however I want a balance between them and I go with the flow of life even if I had a bad day I trust the universe to guide my path and I shall go and enjoy it all.
Thats a good one, but in the SW Universe, actually the dark side of the force is not part of the force, but something like a cancer, a corrupted version of the force, not the force itself (Lucas was the one that said that the dark side is a cancer)
MrStark Belmont I know Lucas had mentioned it but the quote seems so misused especially with all the variables of how the Dark Side exists in the verse. There is a reason why the universe needs both a dark and light side all the time. Why the dualities of these ideals are not shared with these ancient beings that understand the force. Perhaps it was even in reference to the Sith themselves. The force in its natural state is, a force - for a lack of better words. The reason why the “Jedi civil war” is called just that. It’s all what these mortals in the SW universe makes of it.
On the one hand the Grey code is much more attractive than the other two. However the Original Trilogy suggests that the Dark Side of the Force is very dangerous to toy with, it seems like Yoda and Obi-Wan are afraid of the Dark Side or at least they tell Luke to be very careful and distance himself from it. With this corresponds the Emperor who encourages Luke to strike him down making it sound like even one hateful strike with the lightsaber would make him cross the line and trap him. So I wonder if being Grey is actually possible. Although it's possible that Obi-Wan and Yoda are merely afraid of Luke going down his father's path, rightfully so: the stakes are very high there. And the Rebels series ease a little on the situation when Ezra toys with the Dark Side but gets over it pretty easy. I personally like the idea of a Dark Side that's very strong and dangerous, a Force that traps Darth Vader and renders him incapable of going against the Emperor's will even though he hates him and wishes to kill him. I also like the idea of the Grey Jedi but then being Grey must be the most difficult thing to realize. Remaining Grey without slipping to either side, especially the Dark Side must be a real challenge. I haven't read any Grey Jedi stories yet, unless we count the Ahsoka book as a Grey Jedi story. I'm not sure if being Grey is a canon thing yet, maybe The Last Jedi will give us some answers.
Thane Kyrell I don’t think true balance is using the light and dark equally. I think the Darkside is too dangerous for that judging by what it does to Sith and other Darkside users, it corrupts and deforms them. Perhaps Grey Jedi split it 80/20 or 70/30 ?
Revan is a great example of a grey jedi that used the dark side those grey jedi that used the dark mostly fell to it and those that didn't usually isolated themselves from all conflicts and problems
The middle ground of the grey jedi is very small as luke in the ROTJ was in that thin line he tried to follow the jedi but needed to defeat the empire and bring vader back soo he could't stand blinded by the light side and almost fell to the dark side he was in with that conflict since EP 5
After reading The Jedi Path book I understood that the so called Grey Jedi are misunderstanding and misrepresenting the original Jedi teachings. For the Jedi the Light Side is balance and the Dark Side is imbalance. Therefore balance is not to be found between the Dark and the Light. The Jedi aren't dogmatic or narrow-minded as many self-proclaimed Grey Jedi likes to view them. What the Jedi seek is a complete understanding of every aspect of the Force and a life that's in complete Harmony with the Force. What they truly seek is balance, but it's a balance of natural forces, ecosystems, politics, and most of all a balance of mind, spirit, and body.
In the end the jedi are still slaves as much as the sith or grey jedi, following a belief of balance that never will be achieved, playing as guardians of justice many times bringing injustice that is why many jedi leave the order and showing others how unhumane the order is only to isolate themselves and refuse to act again or act and falling to the dark
@Evan Williams But it probably is the much harder path, you need to have a strong will to not fall to the temptations of either polarized sides. You probably need to approach meditation differently from both jedi and sith, and have an entirely different philosophy to training and acting. It's the path to freedom and hapiness tho, so it's worth the effort.
In ideals, not in the power, because the dark side is unnatural, Lucas referenced it as a parasite, as a cancer, but Gray Jedi are better suited to fight the dark side, because they know it, but they can fall into it as well, though I'm not sure if that would be easier or harder
Kyle Katarn's teachings to Jaden and Nosh pretty much sum up what it means to be a Grey Jedi "No ability is inherently good or evil it's how you use it." "It's okay to feel angry but don't let anger control you." and finally "Both sides of the Force Light and Dark are two sides of the same spectrum what path you choose is determined by your choices."
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What if anakin left the jedi order with ahsoka? He'd feel that the jedi had gone too far and left, if he became a gray jedi and used both sides of the force, wouldn't that be as close as he could get to being the chosen one?
Well....Anakin is to bring balance to the Force... so if he say killed Palpatine, and then converted every Jedi to his reformed Grey Jedi ways, then yea, that could work as him bringing balance to the Force (in a more positive, less destructive manner)
if left the jedi then he could have end so much better for anikin padmae might have lived anikin would have not became a dark side user and most importantly, we wouldn't have the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" scene
I mean look at Revan, he constantly evolved becoming more and more powerful when he jumped from Jedi to Sith. But once he was redeemed he truly understood the force and all its abilities becoming one of the first true Grey Jedi, to master both light and dark allowed for balance and control within the force.
"Nothing is true" --- Neither Light nor Dark Side is Complete; they are honest but not true "Everything is permitted." --- There is only The Force; It is around me, flows through me, and expresses Itself as me. ...But no Edward? Too much of a pirate? ;-P
I think the cannon material is too dismissive of grey jedi overall. It's very much "light is good, dark is evil". I hope rey ends up going the way of luke from legends, using both aspects to bring balance, etc.
Both my friend and I are huge Star Wars nerds and often debate about different ideologies and aspects of the Jedi and sith. I’m really happy with this episode because you just helped end one of these debates. This is by far my favorite video yet
Grey Jedi have two definitions depending on when they were written. You're describing the latter grey jedi which were some weird halfway point between the light side and the dark. But that idea runs contrary to the lore of the movies and George Lucas' thoughts on the force. George commonly had two ideas about it, that the light and dark side were the fight between good and evil, and he tried to push some eastern spirituality into it via a yin and yang approach. However his thoughts on the former were much more developed as an idea. Grey Jedi used to mean Jedi that didn't agree with the council, but were otherwise light side affiliated. The dark side of the force is a corrupting... force (yeah, weird way to write it). You can't just dip your toe into having your actions ruled by anger and fear because it will forever define your fate. New Grey Jedi try and pretend that wasn't the message of both the OT and PT
Revan was the embodiment of the old Jedi, until he realized that the ways of the Jedi were not meant to stop injustice and murder. He then became a Grey Jedi in all but name and code, fighting for the innocent and weak, with the goal of bettering their fates. Then he discovered that there is a dark menace lurking in the Shadows of Dromond Kaas, and Revan is also discovered by the Sith Emperor Vitiate. He joins the Sith with a clear goal: use whatever necessary to destroy the Sith Emperor (rightfully so!), and that was Revan's downfall. He used the Star Forge and his mind got blurred by the force, like the minds of the Dark Jedi and Sith. The Force bends the minds of Dark Side Users, so that they become even more powercraving. Revan was not craving power for his own good, he was craving power to protect the galaxy against extinction by Vitiate. That's why he was able to "repent" and become "light" sided once again. Of course, Genocide of the Sith Empire's population (see "The Factory") is by no means "light" side, in reality. But maybe in the twisted minds of the Jedi it might.
no mace is not a grey jedi. Mace is a jedi that can harness the dark side from other dark side/hate filled force users and use it to his advantage in battle but will not let it take over him. That's why he is so good!
I think only with the swordstyles but not in his thoghts throughout the force. So you can say he built his horizon within the fighting styles to a grey jedi, but all summed up he was just a Jedi. Correct me if I am wrong, thats what I am thinking. :)
Ho you mean his fighting style ? Not at all you understood it wrong. He has the ability to channel it like a surfer while staing in the light. But he was a jedi, not a grey jedi. It's not in the ability , it's in the philosohy
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Light, dark, in between and THE BEYOND. I believe Luke was training Rey to get her to see the dark so she could experience the in between, the Grey. Yet, he was also training her to see the BEYOND, the bigger picture because where he ends she begins with furtherance and completion of her training. This will go beyond The Last Jedi movie. The in between is TRANCENDENCE. The beyond is part of the TRANSFORMATION. She must learn and experience both. But, because the movie will cover a portion I think she will only learn a particle of what is needed before trouble dawns.
I'd go with the Sith for a time as they provide more motivation at the early parts of ones development, all while punishing complacency. Once you are superior to your master you can chose to not take an apprentice on and go on your own. Going on your own without guidance too early would be a mistake and limit your development as a force user.
Yeah But The Punishment & Agony From The Torture You Would Need To Endure & Cause To Even Survive Let Alone Thrive Would Not Allow You A Happy or Quality Existence.
It's very very difficult to hop off the Sith path once you've committed to it though. To go Sith you need to allow your fear and anger to rule you. And once your emotions are running the show you no longer have the self-control to voluntarily go back. It's an addiction.
The problem with this is the more you use the dark side, the more addicted you become to it. And the more you become dependent on your master and succeeding him.
I’d still go sith, as I feel mastering both sides would be extremely difficult as they’re so different. Plus, one cannot truly use the dark side without all of their emotions poured into it. The light side holds back and with that, it holds back the darks full potential
Ultimately the sith code is about freedom but without self discipline many sith fall into self destruction but grey jedi do they accept their emotions but know when to hold them back balance in all things is the key to unlocking the full power of the force.
I started out believing in the Jedi, but through all the books I’ve read, games I’ve played, movies/Tv shows that I have watched. I have found that the Jedi severely limit themselves on what they can do. They seem to act like a bunch of monks with glow sticks. So I have chosen to be a Grey Jedi, everything needs a balance. The abilities I can and will use are on both spectrums. Being a Grey Jedi is truly freeing and satisfying, you are not bound to anything. I’m travelling the galaxy every day in balance with the Force! Star Wars for ever!!
The force is like a lock. The key is the grey Jedi. Without the key, you need the light side (a tortion wrench) and the dark side (a tool to get the pins set). The lock represents the force. The force needs balance.
Seems like there is no such thing as sex with the Sith and who would want to have sex with them since they turn ugly with all that hatred in them and with the Jedi you have to live like a monk so sex is a no no in their theology with no personal attachments, wtf? Grey jedi is the way to go and let's have a good time, lol!
My favorite version of the gray jedi code is this one: There is no Light without the Dark, Nor Dark without Light. Through passion bound in patience, There is Knowledge. Through Knowledge forged in Strength, there is Power. Through Power entwined with Serenity, There is Harmony. Through Harmony unified with chaos, There is Balance. Through Balance, There is the Force. The Force shall set us free.
If I was to become a Jedi, I would start out on the light side then overtime I would explore and cross over to the dark side and in the end I would become a gray Jedi. It's like the yin and the yang, you need both to create balance. You need aspects of The Darkside and aspects of the light and together they become stronger as they intertwine
Kreia... that is basically what happened to her. Although in doing that she came to hate the force as she believed it was the source of all conflict from both the dark and light sides endless fighting.
That doesn't work lol, the light side is the natural state of the force, or at least it was in the original lore. The dark side is a corruption, that's why the Force constantly created heros to destroy the sith order lol.
Gray all the way, being told by someone else on how to be how to hone one's force abilities on both extreme strict code is no way living. Life is too fleeting to do so, by all means have your cake eating it too with whip cream and cherry on top.
I think the biggest problem with the Grey Jedi is that they are essentially fence-sitting. They hold no favor with the Jedi or the Sith, and will likely be caught in the middle of any large-scale conflict between the Light Side and Dark Side. Note that there are few Grey Jedi that live on into old age. Once they're too old to fight, the forces of Light and Dark would soon close in for the kill. Either the Jedi would punish them for their morally ambiguous actions, or the Sith would steal their secrets and kill them out of hatred.
***** Did I say they have an order? No, grey jedi choose for themselves, and that is the term we use for those characters who are jedi/sith but reject both. There are obviously positives to the dark side, chiefly power.
Knowing myself as I do, I would most likely be a Grey Jedi in that I would keep my focus on the Light even as there were Dark Times around me, ie, much like Quinlan Vos in the shadows or Qui-Gon following the Force's will and not binding myself to the corrupt government. I would follow a pre-Ruusan reformation code format most likely, in that I would state such things as "emotion, yet peace", rather than "there is no emotion, there is peace", etc. Just my thoughts.
This video was so Deep. like the ending Message Was so deep and true and Correspondent to everyday life like without robbers there is no police without, if there is no chaos there is no order there is no freedom Bc everyone would be a drone to keeping the peace, so Be free but Not spread chaos Be with the light and the dark. Sincerly Tired Asf.
Control your fear and make it a weapon, temper that weapon with your anger, control it and hone your skill with your hate, do not suffer by using this weapon, it is your gift, not your burden I feel as if this would be what the sith or grey jedi code with Yoda's fear>anger>hate>suffering quote would be like.
Everything in life comes in pairs, Up and down, Dark and Light, Hot and Cold, Ying and Yang. One cannot exist without the other and for balance both are requierd
He literally DID NOT LISTEN to what they had to say, and as a result brought on his own suffering because of his need for attachment. This is why the central theme of buddhism is that life is suffering, because life is comprised of desires and wants we conflate as needs, when we learn to let go of as much as possible, we are free. Grey jedi ideology isnt nuanced, its fucking retarded.
@@iflyte EVERYONE in life needs attachment. THERE'S NOTHING wrong with that. That's natural for so many people, even for someone like Obi Wan. And as for the Jedi in the prequels? It appeared as they have become full fo themselves due to the absence of the Sith for so long that little that they know that ONE OLD MAN was the Sith Lord they were looking for all along and he was hiding alone amongst 10,000 Jedi. Another case is with Ashoka. When she was framed for what Bariss Offee did and the Jedi Council pounced on the fact she was guilty and only Anakin defended her. When she was found innocent, The Jedi WERE ARROGANT TO APOLOGIZE TO HER and insisted that what she suffered is some so called trial. Don't ever try to make the Jedi look like saints the world only needs ever again. Because they fall into their shortcomings because they cannot accept that the light can blind someone as the dark can blind anyone.
@@memecliparchives2254 Cool the melodrama kid, I could go the entirety of my life sanctifying the jedi and there wouldn't be a damn thing you could do to stop me lmao. Secondly, again applying buddhist philosophy to the force (cause it's the same damn concept) kind of debunks your whole "baww everyone needs attachment baww". Let's break down what the force is really about, it's not light/dark side, it's about spiritual vs physical. The essentially do not die, they transcend physical form and become one with the force because they have let go of any and all earthly desires. Conversely, the sith are ruled by their passion, and like any who place absolute importance on earthly desires, despite their impermanence, what they have come to consider their "needs" essentially twist and corrupt them. This is why what could arguably be considered to be the ultimate dark side ability is to cheat death/manipulate life. No matter what you and your little grey jedi fifis think, attachment is ultimately bad when you are sensitive to the force, no matter how you try to skew it with "trendy" moral relativism. As for everything else, oh yeah, it's jedi arrogance that prevented them from detecting Palpatine, not his clouding of the future or y'know...him being a master manipulator to the point of setting up crisis after crisis behind the scenes to ascend to the highest level of government. Oh and him being the most POWERFUL SITH LORD in existence. Yeah I'm sure that counts for nothing cause "hurr just an old maaaan". As for Ahsoka's trial, no they didn't "pounce" on it, the evidence was overwhelmingly stacked against her, and even then, the vote against her wasn't unanimous. Again, the dark side clouded the jedi's senses of precognition and clairvoyance, without that they're normal people who have to rely on logic. I mean ffs you act like they didn't immediately apologize (and then some, seriously wtf do you want? For them to literally kiss her ass?) after Anakin found the real culprit. People like you view the jedi credo as callous and unfeeling because you think you can have it both ways without consequence. You by existing are the coalescence of dark and light, spiritual and physical, as Yoda said, the dark side is seductive and easy because we, by living, are naturally slave to desire, even at our most base and primal level.
What is the music that plays during the first half of this vid, and is it OpenSource, for free use in videos? I really like it, I'd like to use it if I can...
Understanding the grey jedi better i can say without a doubt i agree with them. I had only seen the code that said there is no dark without light etc. This is so much better. Thank you.
I've wrote a few fan fiction on myself as a jedi in the star wars universe. I've known deep lore about the Grey Jedi code and it sums up my personality, I lie in the middle of both not falling evil or good. I live in the moment and do what I must when I need to.
And now there are rumors that Disney might give Revan a Sex change and give the role to Brie Larson... Not really sure i want Revan to be cannon under Disney if they want to do that with him 😑
THIS IS A GREAT VIDEO, BRO! I watch almost every video you upload. Very fascinating. The score at the beginning, what's the name of the score ost? I've been searching it for 4 years. GREAT VIDEO! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LAD!💯♾🍻
Would kylo ren be sort of a grey Jedi then ? Because he is trying to finish what darth Vader started (bring balance to the force) but as he says to the darth Vader mask he keeps feeling the pull to the light so he can't embrace the light and the dark so that's why he kills Han Solo, to embrace the dark and gain the power of both the dark and the light. Maybe ????
The thumbnail couldn’t have used more opposite characters if it tried. Ahsoka is so pure and kindhearted and Maul is a flaming seething ball of rage smothered in hatred.
As I commented above, I've asked him a few times & got nothing. Same with others. If anyone else is reading this & knows what song that is, can you tell us? TY.
THIS VIDEO IS IT!!!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF JEDI I WOULD BE. A GREY JEDI SENTINEL. (sorry for caps, was that excited watching this video, thank you so much for making it)
