Y’all are talking like the Illumination movie was the worst grinch movie, just count your blessings that you didn’t see the snl grinch skit last year 🤮
after viewing it a few times I keep coming to the same conclusion. his flaws like his anger make him choose grinch because he knows he's not good enough to become a saint but even after becoming a monster he still retains his humanity. when he chooses to dance in spite of how other people see him, he's free. That's why it's so profound when it ends with the tale of the christmas cretin. he's only a cretin because of how he refuses to give in to despair. and when other people look at him with disdain, they become grinches themselves. Amazing what someone can do with a 2 minute animation.
The way he dances for himself without a real audience has always cut deep for me. He’s become something that he believes is monstrous and unacceptable, but he’s still finding the motivation to put himself out there and express himself so confidently, to the point of not even caring if people like it.
We were always meant to like the grinch's confidence and cleverness, to identify and empathize with him. We've been the grinches the whole time, it is up to us how our hearts grow.
In the original animation, the Grinch still utters a lie of mercy to a child and decides to return the Whos' gifts at the climax of the story. He exhibits redeemable qualities. This version embraces his Grinchness fully and that's why the dance is so shocking and cathartic for us to witness.
Music is probably a big part of it. Or maybe that he's indulging in the social rejection. Those are you two choices, choose wisely. So what's it gonna be, huh, huh?
Eithrr He is trying to see whether he will be accepted for who he is, or he is a monster that ruins christmas by going out and dancing in front of people, weirding them out and gaining the label of cretin. Probably the former, but perceived as the latter
Doesnt even need to be Christmas for me honestly. The music goes hard and the animation os captivating, i found the video on mushrooms originally and it made me geek so hard
I love everything about this video, the music, animation, the line deliveries of "sainte" and "grunch", swear to God this channel is perfect in every way.
@@Snetzelsnetzalsnetzul I don’t think so, he writes as if he really did lose his humanity. “Have I truly become a monster?” Reflects that, I guess, because he’s asking if being a grinch truly means he’s a monster.
@@ictogon this is the first time in forever I've seen a comment like this that promised a specific thing relating to a video,..that ACTUALLY DID WHAT WAS SAID. Nice job btw.
Here’s my pothead analysis: the man is suffering from seasonal depression and then is visited by an angel who will grant 1 of 2 wishes: appeal to yourself (grunch) or appeal to others (sainte)? There's no wrong choice because ultimately the man is choosing how he will be happy. Will he get happiness from himself or from the people around him? The man chose to be a Grinch because he desires happiness from within. And when he becomes a Grinch he unlocks the shackles within him that locked away his true-self. He put those shackles there in the first place because he was convinced he needed to conceal his personality. But after the transformation he can't help but wonder: "have I truly become a monster?". The new perspective granted to him by his wish allowed him to see that he is in fact not the monster he feared he'd become. He is just himself. So then he goes into public and dances his heart out as a grand gesture of confidence and self-love. Side note: Watch this vid at 0.75x speed it actually sounds awesome
@@chadthundercock4806 current ai technology can only learn from existing artworks. It is incapable of being original. There is no alternate reality where this was created completely by AI, unless it already knew about pilot red sun
@@zombieseatflesh7i mean, thats also how people work. they create based on experience and previous art. the very first rural cavemen paintings were literally just drawings of animals
“YOU CAN BE A SAINT OR YOU CAN BE A GRINCH. THOSE ARE YOUR TWO CHOICES. CHOOSE WISELY. SO WHAT’S IT GONNA BE? HUH? HUH??? A SAINT? ( _sainte_ ) OR A GRINCH? ( _grunch_ )” **Slowly fades away**
A man coming to terms with himself. He knows what a good person is supposed to be and he doesn't feel he fits the mold. He sits alone on Christmas with the TV he broke in front of him and considers his options. Should he aspire to be a saint or resign himself to be a grinch? Embracing despair he publicly dances; a cry for help heard by many but answered by none.
@AsukaWorshiper69 I love this interpretation. Like he finally allowed himself some peace. Maybe he is a grinch but so what. It's better than living a lie.
5 years ago my buddy had all our friends over and he showed us this video, those were some of the best times of my life. I still listen to the ost of this and it’s just as short as those moments seem now, this is the most nostalgic song I’ve ever heard in my life thank you pilot red sun
Alright buddy, you have two options here. You can be a saint, or you can be a grinch. Those are your two choices. Choose wisely. So what's it gonna be, huh, HUH?? A saint (SAINTE) or a grinch (GRUNCH)?
The question is rhetorical, as it’s apparent before Claus even comes down the chimney that the man has always been a Grunch, and only upon hallucinating Santa gave him the choice, realizes his transformation. His attempts to go out and convince the community -who is already numb to his presence - that he isn’t a monster, fall flat, and we’re forced to look into ourselves and see if we’ve already made the choice between grunch and sainte ourselves.
Cold- and AH I already know what your gonna say. Jaiden, you live in Arizona , you don’t get to experience the cold... and you’re right. Other people have to shovel 3 feet of snow off their car to get to work, and all we have to do is put on a jacket, and... not turn the AC on. (This was from JaidenAnimation’s video
This is art. The whole video is a unique vibe. When grunch danced to that idm with flute i was like "damn straight. You do your thing. Life is fleeting."
I think that what people are missing here is that this story is about more than choosing the wrong option. I think that Grinch’s immediate transformation and later questioning of his “choice” shows that he never really made a choice at all. He was just an inherently sour person, and society, as represented by Claus, labeled him as such and put the idea in his head that if he’s not an acceptable saint, then he is just a Grinch. A monster. However, Grinch defies this idea soon after the choice is made for him. He asks himself if he is truly a monster, and even goes out and expresses himself in a harmless way in an attempt to show people that while he is no saint, The Grinch is not truly a monster either. The sad part is that despite these efforts to prove his ideas of self-identity, society still labels him as the Christmas Cretin, ending our story on an unfortunate note. Revision: Grinch’s Ultimatum is the prequel to Shrek
i cant explain how this somehow immaculately captures the feeling of christmas. its like... some weird period of the year where both morale (sheer happiness due to the holidays) and the environment (snow/cold) change, making things feel a little ethereal n stuff and this video perfectly captures that ethereal vibe. the song is just such a banger too in some weird way. genuinely one of my favorite videos on the internet
The song is really weird honestly but oddly fitting. It sounds like a song in a late 90s game on a china town level that you always hated but it's a banger
Or you have a shit family full of troubled and sad people who not only will never do anything about their own problems but bring out the worst in you themselves
This guy didn't "turn" into a Grinch, he already "was" a Grinch, it's just that as soon as Santa put the idea into his head that people like him are like the Grinch, he started to see himself as one.
Its a mix of the song and the odd movements that gives a sense of nostalgia. It reminds us of dreams because dreams are weird and indescribable like the music and the movement
Being a Grinch might seem like the “bad” one out of the two choices. We mustn’t forget that afterall, the Grinch’s heart grew three sizes after truly accepting himself. To be a saint is to be a perfect yet artificial being, a pure person, however, becoming one is a completely inhuman task, for nobody is perfect. The Grinch is a truly pure person unlike a saint, for The Grinch has had to deal with inner demons, managing to go past his self-loathing ways and accepting others and most importantly, himself, and in the process, became much more than just a “Grinch”.
When the grunch asks "have I truly become a monster?" It would seem at first that he is starting to realize that he is a monster. However, I would venture to say that he is starting to realize that he is *not* a monster. Clause said to "choose wisely" and the wise choice would seem at first to be sainte, but maybe choosing grunch does NOT make you a monster. Perhaps choosing sainte would have freed the man from his demons, but instead he chooses grunch and channels his frustration and passion into writing and dancing. The question "have I truly become a monster?" Lets us into the mind of a proud grunch; a grunch who questions the validity of his "inherit" bad nature; a grunch who dares to challenge the ultamatim given to him by a strange, detatched, unmerciful, being. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
The video shows that there are never genuinely two choices. Like with many times in our own lives, the protagonist is presented a false binary, and the claus, a false prophet, suggests to him that he could only be a sainte, or a grunch. Having the role of the grinch forced upon him he does not accept it as it is and instead pursues his own path, one of dance, of entertainment. He is human, and therefore radically free, capable of making any decision at any time. That is the moral I take from this, and it is one that is truly meaningful to me.
However, he was given the option of choosing between sainte and grunch. If the protagonist’s intentions were truly benevolent, why would he choose grunch over sainte in the first place?
There’s also a theme of self loathing in that he breaks his own tv and questions if being grunch is really that bad. He attempts to prove it wrong with a harmless activity by dancing but he only delves further into his self loathing by continuing to let others decide his worth since the townsfolk judge him harshly when he leaves the house and dances. But he’s also taken a step away from the self loathing by embraceing his true self and dancing anyway.
The choice of being a sainte or a grunch is merely an illusion cast by the fact that people sometimes only see two different sides with no in-between. As if hot and cold exists but warm does not. This is why he asks himself "have I truly become a monster?" when in reality not all of his actions define him as a grunch. The way he thinks and the choices he made make him a mix of both a sainte and a grunch which is unique to him as a result of his actions and experiences. This leaves him in a state of denial, which takes him to the plaza to dance, trying to find where he fits in society. Trying to find others like him that share the same flaws, ideas, or commonalities. Not perfect like a sainte, and not evil like a grunch, he writes his own story through the choices he makes.
It’s not the video that’s been since the dawn of time, it’s the question itself. Are we to hide our true nature to become an angle to satisfy those who see us as monsters, or are we to become comfortable with ourselves, and accept our flaws that others may not see as acceptable. The movement of the man shows his comfort in his dance, how he does not desire to be changed. It’s truly, a tantalizing conundrum.
Here, the artist PilotRedSun presents to us a tale of morality, and whether or not it objectively exists. The unnamed man desperately attempts to get his fritzy living room television up and running. The top of the television reads "ultra high frequency box" and the barely-working television screen shows the vague figure of a man. The man on the screen is a manifestation of perfect morality, while the television itself represents the lens of absolute morality. The unnamed man wants the image to be clear, meaning that he wants to know what it means to be objectively moral. The television fails to give him a clear answer. Feeling betrayed and angry, the unnamed man attempts to destroy the taunting symbol of moral perfection. He concludes that morality will never be an easily-discernible picture by any rule of measurement, no matter how "high frequency" it is. The unnamed man is visited by Santa Clause, manifesting as God, both of whom are moral authorities in their own rights. Outraged by the unnamed man's abandonment of his moral edict, Santa offers the unnamed man a choice. He may choose to be transformed into a saint (*s a i n t e*), which is creature of pure, unrelenting moral goodness, or a grinch (*g r u n c h*), which is a creature of pure, unrelenting moral depravity. Santa leaves the unnamed man to make his decision, and the unnamed man, unable to remove himself from his divine predicament, bitterly chooses to become a grinch. Instantly his body and thoughts become flooded with hatred and poison. He takes to his journal and poses the question to himself, "Have I truly become a monster?" He takes to the streets for public consensus on the question. He dawns a leather jacket and white shirt, and styles his hair in the unmistakable manner of a juvenile delinquent, and then he dances for the bystanders. His costume represents the admittance of his new moral bankruptcy, but his dancing represents virtuous elements of the human spirit, life, grace and poetry. The whole thing is a thought-provoking piece of performance art which reiterates the question he asked himself. Has he truly become a monster? Despite his flaws, does he not have beauty inside himself as well? The people stare at him blankly. They do not know the answer his question. Soon, the Grinch himself comes to take on that same stare, as is shown in the end. His sense of self-worth and his moral status both remain uncertain.
To think that a Hitachi television could push a man this far into darkness of the grunch and then for that same man to rise from the pits of despair and become a sainte on the inside where it matters. Inspirational.
Despite the Christmas theme, this video just embodies January for me. There’s something about the hollow melancholy of the music and the melted snow on the ground that reminds me of what comes after. This video is what comes after Christmas: nothing but snow and ice, and a memory of warmth. Pilotredsun is a visionary
I consider this to be your greatest work, pilotredsun. this isn't just a joke- this is actually the work of a genius. i've never seen anything that can convey the emotions and aesthetics that this does, and you can feel the deeper meaning behind it. i showed this video to my dad and he loves it so much. it's mesmerizing.
this shit makes me feel so melancholic like when you falling into a depression nap and when you open your eyes again 6 hours have passed and its too late for dinner now
hello everyone third year im back here and id just like to say merry christmas to all i hope you all enjoy your christmas day :) are you a sainte or a grunch?
im listening to this album right now to check if it's in there ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u1mUiAjHzAI.html if it's not in there, then it's not up anywhere probably. I've listened to everything he had up other than this album
I’m in my last month of my arts bachelors and I have to say, these videos are some of the best displays of art I’ve ever seen. I’m not actually trolling. They are sheer proof that the quality of work in an animation can be as rough as possible, but still as a piece be so perfect. Great story telling in such an insanely unique way. Don’t change dude!
the way i see it, is that it's about committing to your decisions and making the best of the outcomes. the tv-punching man is given an ultimatum: sainte or grunch? he picks grunch, and begins to doubt his choice. but he realises he cannot go back on his decision, and instead dances and has a wild ol' time, making the best of being a grinch.
Maybe it's about acceptance of who you are and what bad decisions you did in the past, stopping carring what other people think, thus just enjoying life, like our dude dancing in the end
Reminds me of the original Shin Megami Tensei; the protagonist's dog, Pascal, has a dedicated room and melancholic theme, but with only the description "Pascal the dog is here."
Legit, the review scores of the Illumination film were middling so they switched the scores that came up when the film was googled to the imdb review scores for this video.
The whole video idea goes hard for no reason. A grumpy man who has the power to change who he is or unlock the personification of his true self. Instead of hiding in fear and misery, he goes out and shows off his true self, disgusting everyone but finding true happiness.
No seriously same! It genuinely, for some reason I could never possibly analyse, adds a layer of narrative, and contextualises what is on screen, even though for the most part it doesn't make sense; it doesn't have to. The only "sense" you need is to feel, and with this music, you can.
hyepbbe It actually really bothers me too when people do that. It's just that when i made the first two comments i had only watched it a couple of times. So I just wanted to show that some time has passed and I had been watching it non-stop since the original comment, thats why i put the meme edit
I think PilotRedSun does an excellent job of posing an interesting philosophical question to us. We are quick to categorize people into saintes and grunches, and while this is a quick method of organizing people in to tidy groups of who conforms to our worldview and who doesn’t, we ultimately do ourselves and those we judge a disservice. We never learn about the complexity of a person. In turn, they become the thing society has told them to become. We see this when the grunch in the story questions if he has truly become a monster. However, in the end, he embraces his grunchhood, and dances amongst the rest of us, because through his embrace of his own inner darkness, he has learned that we are not simply grunch nor sainte... however we are all both grunch and sainte. Each and every one of us.
It's about how religion or maybe just society makes us label ourselves as good or evil based on our behavior, and because of this, we live our lives with the fear of being seen as different by other and thus judged as a bad person. When he decides to become full Grinch he has chosen to willingly be seen as an outcast by society, but for him this is a burden that has been lifted, as he is now able to act free and be real in a system that does not welcome spontaneity.
