That harpy death was because of the people opening the boxes. When you open the ration crate it spawns 3-4 harpies down the tunnel that rush the crates before the named mob for the quest spawns.
@@Miranox2 They werent banned. The image of the ban was faked and staged by the griefer, they even made a yt vid about it.. :/ If you do search it up, please report the video for harassment (stream-sniping + toxicity + griefing)
Im all for griefers getting banned. They are ruining other ppl's gameplay on purpose and negatively impacting other ppl game experience out of pure hate.
@@krippaxxuseredarlordofthes9940 It doesn't really matter. Their goal is to ruin the game for everybody. Just ban them. After that, they can appeal at Blizzard if they want.
Hardcore players ruin gameplay and interactivity for non-participants, whom which are victims of their servers being dominated by this wave of interest.
HC + that AI voice addon fundamentally changes WoW into a new game. You actually care what the NPCs have to say + you can't brute force your way to max level cap because all that will do is end up causing you to do is start from scratch.
I think it was that one rogue that sat killing the npc for 8 hours a day at the logging camp in elwynn who got banned. That is actually against the rules. He happened to be the same account as Appealgodx
@@dancinglight8411 I haven’t played wow since everyone was playing classic like over a year ago. That wasn’t even hardcore and I regret all the time I wasted trying to recreate the magic I experienced in 2005. Wow is dead, and it isn’t because of the game. It’s because of the player base. If a whole new wave of people started playing wow for the first time and you could magically make sure no veterans with knowledge of the game are the majority, this game would flourish once again. It’s the knowledge and the min maxxing community that ruined this game, hence why the veterans crave a brand new mmo.
The gnome vendor in the BRD bar isn't linked to other mobs in the bar. I used to solo-farm him for the Shanker back in vanilla. I basically lived there for a couple of week, stealth to the bar, clear patron, kill him, run out, rinse and repear.
The main problem for asmon isn't going to be griefers, it's the mob of people constantly swarming him everywhere he goes. Fully buffing and making sure their Icon doesn't die. Not much of a HC experience.
Thing that gets me are people trying to do tricky pulls to potentially save 10 minutes when you can lose 6 days. Theres the notion of "Risk it for the biscuit" but this is not one of those. Its simply "Risk it..." and there is no biscuit.
The death at 5:10 there is a mage that goes invisible or accepts a summons at the end of the clip; I think he got fire blasted and that chopped him in half.
First mage did nothing wrong. They were literally saying they were fine (stupidly) up until shit went south at the very end. Why should the mage risk his own life there? He started helping out when they were close to the entrance.
If you grief, you shouldn't be allowed to play the game. I don't understand how it's acceptable to have players ruining other players experience on any level.
that last one was weird, when I played (not hardcore obv) and a mob got on a party member on the way, the tank just had excuse to warm up and usually the other party-member would help aswel, if your team mate is in trouble help, not run past, made that mistake ONCE but still regret it
That last clip...nevermind BoP, he's Holy. He literally had a huge instant heal he could've cranked into that druid and he'd have been fine long enough for a few casted heals. Also, get an SP 1h/board if you aren't Ret. There's literally no reason not to.
Yeah as a Holy paladin main (Not been playing for years though) that actually hurt to watch... He bubbles and healing himself? Makes no sense. The druid messed up too though for not going into bearform instantly but wow I feel bad for that paladin. His movement after screams of guilt and he knows he messed up bad.
the Grim guzzler clip xD u can tell they obviously never done this before, when you attack him, EVERY single mob in this area becomes hostile and aggros to you lmfaoooo
I'd just like to say that personally, greifing someone on a pvp server just cause they are flagged, and doing it on a pve server using mobs, is the exact same thing. Grief is grief. It'd wrong regardless.
that brd pull is doable in a non 60 group your healer just needs to be good and you need a mage most the mobs are non elite ive done the same accidental pull before not knowing that npc has crap pathing
Its fine to bann them you have people that Transfer their chars over to the hardcore realms only to grief people those players have no intent to "play" the game..there is an orc hunter on eu that pulles elites to redridge or westfall every day....imagine thats what u do in your free time every day...must be a sad life
Let's just say people like him do not get laid. I hope in official HC servers Blizzard will add like 500% movement speed on any mobs in the open world that's been kited a certain distance. Or give the mobs some kind of one-shot ability it only can use when it goes from one zone to another. Would be such a cool surprise to see the first lvl 60 hc griefer who want to kite Teremus and as soon as they reach Deadwind Pass, Teremus gains the ability "Doom of Deadwind" or something, 10k damage 100 yard range to whoever has kept leash for over 3 minutes and entering a new zone.
@@Moldylocks you dont even need that stuff, retail mobs will not be kited that far... just evade and go back...same system will work in classic. and saying those people wont get laid is kinda silly... since an old friend of mine did this sometimes and he has 3 kids and yes they are his lol >
Eventually this is going to lead to the same problems as bots. 1) they pay subscription. 2) them playing the game the way they want to play it often won't make other people stop paying for subscription. 3) removing griefers from the game is not going to magically make a bunch of new players flock to the game. . This means that solving the problem of griefers (or botters) actually loses them money, both in the sense of direct sub money, and in terms of designing and implementing systems to deal with them.The main problem is that the people that sit there complaining about bots and griefers are people who are still subbed to the game... In a capitalistic society consumer complaints don't mean jack shit if they are not accompanied by a cut to profits. In other words, your words mean nothing. You can complain about it, you can cry about it, but until you stop giving them money as a direct result of it, it will keep happening.
There aren't enough griefers for it to be bad to remove them. A literal single drop of water in a giant bucket. Just throw them out. Your argument doesn't work.
@@-Believeinyourself- Where is your proof that it will? Because implementing systems to deal with them is going to objectively cost a sum of money. Can you prove that sum of money will be made up in not only sub to replace the griefers that were paying subs... but also to make up for the investment into the systems to deal with them? . For them to make that financial commitment, I don't have to prove that it won't. But you would have to prove that it will. Not sure you understand how risk assessment works for companies.
@@Fibah That doesn't matter, it's literally just lost money however many of them there are. Why would they make an investment that is going to objectively lose them money?
@@anthonyfaiell3263 So you think they shouldn't ban anybody EVER because "they'll lose money" So lets just allow cheaters and glitch abusers too and never ban any bots either. You are very smart. And it does NOT "objectively" lose them money, you have no proof that it would lose them any money in the long run.
All they have to do is send asmon an email with when he wants to play, and assign a GM to babysit. They wont have to wait long if its not out in the open.
in the last clip I dont blame the paladin, Braff didnt even go bear and seems he's the tank. if he was bear then pala couldve focused the bear but druid only had threat cause of bubble, when bubble ends he gets all the threat again since druid didnt bear aoe them.
I disagree. Paladin flash healed himself THREE times, while in bubble. Also doesn't have crucial things bound, like lay on hands. Gotta do better, bind the keys, you're safe in bubble heal the people with aggro.
I think its funny how seriously people take a game they don't get paid to play. If you get that upset over a game you have to monthly pay for, probably shouldn't play it.
I'm fine with people kitting mobs around. But when they go into a new zone the program should actually disconnect any mob kitting for a person. It does make hardcore easier, but @$$ like that get somewhat stopped.
And my 17 lvl priest died because i went afk and got killed by lvl 11 spider... on a main road not too far from a fly master. If you are going to take food out of the oven make sure you log out. All I'm saying...
What’s the better server to join for HC play? Currently kinda burnt out of retail/wotlk and just looking for something new to enjoy, played classic the first time around and didn’t get past 40 due to IRL, now I got the time thanks in advance!
If griefers are willing to target total nobodies, then playing HC isn't worth it in my opinion. My first toon I started playing got to level 10, got griefed. I have no problem with them perma banning griefers if that's the level they're willing to go to on a RP server. Not playing HC till the problem dies down or gets fixed though.
That is not how you pull Plugger. You should pull that from the stairs by Phalanx and los the packs back. You only need to pull the group by the stairs and then pull Plugger
1) griefers pay subscription 2) getting griefed is unlikely to make you stop paying for subscription. 3) removing griefers will not make more people subscribe to the game. . This means that solving the problem of griefers will result in no influx of profit, while removing a bunch of paying subscribers... in other words. They would lose money for solving this problem. . The only solution to this is for consumers to have enough self respect to literally just unsubscribe from the game and openly say it is because of griefers and botters. If Blizzard saw people were willing to stop paying them money if this problem doesn't get fixed... I guarantee they would do something about it. . That's exactly why they only do stuff when megastreamers are involved. Because megastreamers bring light to the negative situation and have the power to push the sheep to unsubscribe. . But in large part, most people wouldn't even know botters or griefers exist without megastreamers in the first place... Sad but true.
Streamers have such fragile egos. There is no way to ban somebody for ‘griefing’. It’s not their fault a mob is leashed on to them while they’re trying to get away
I think having griefers and their accounts permabanned is good for overall community. I highly doubt Blizzard gains anything of having that level toxicity in their game.
I like griefers assume WoW or all MMOs are these sandbox, ultimate freedom games where you can do whatever you want to when that has never been the case
Banning griefers is the norm in other MMOs, blizzard just cares about money not their community. So they'll gladly let those people keep giving them money instead of dealing with them
Seems like it is a part of the game :S If blizzard doesn't want it why don't they just remove the mechanic as it goes up? Ohh.. that's right they put all their dev time into overwatch 2 which is now scrapped OmegaLul
I don't think greifers should be banned. It ruins the spirit of hardcore. If people don't like getting killed, then go play normal mode. It's called HARDcore for a reason. WoW is an easy game to recover on after a loss. Go play Escape From Tarkov and then make the comparison.
Its an Ez fix, or atleast it sounds Ez. 1 simple thing to add to the game, if u die you cannot ress.. Cuz based on that asmongold clip when said he will just ress and go to inn...... should not be doable. Cuz I would assume most of griefers are not hardcore anymore?
then you said some words that werent allowed... because i have been on the forums since they opened and also report grievers to an extend and never got banned... soo.....dont rage ?
lvl 46 is trying to kill lvl 47 elite, like cmon.the audacity ...so dumb and he is like a warrior ...what did he expect here even,like ""im not some kinda normie noob, i got it" - gets slapped
Im happy griefers getting banned. Pulling mobs to low level characters or tricking someone to hit you while you pvp on is a big nono. However, if you hand in a quest and you get pvp enabled like in SoS, thats fine with me. Thats your fault.
Feel like there's an argument to be made that turning in a random quest in DM shouldn't PvP flag you in the first place. That NPC should just not be flagged. And even if we agreed that it was your fault, it's hardly your fault that low-life assholes are sitting there in stealth, waiting for people to accidentally flag themselves. Pretty much the same as a gathering node grief to me.
This is a huge step. If blizzard can do things like this more often and effectively that kind of thing resonated huge with the player base , especially over time . As more people post videos and one day blizzard is known as,the place cheaters and griefers are not tolerated, that is a huge positive for their shattered image
There is no HC official server (for now), sooooo, for what did they get banned ? play the game with blizzards rules ? ... That doesnt seem fair since its not in the rules :/ This always exist, ppl playng HC just make the juice heaven saltier than usual for those carbage ppl, and its tenicaly ok with the rule as they stand so the ban doesnt seem fair until we get HC servers
Why is it that almost all the griefs happen to alliance players? Also the horde rogue waiting at the missing diplomat quest tent for people to get pvp flagged is the saddest thing I have ever seen.
Indeed they are one guy got all his accounts banned for griefing appealgodx got permanently banned also and some people last night that was griefing in Elwynn got banned while they was in the middle of doing it
i stopped playing hc for the last week cause every time i log on i step out of the inn in redridge and there is this night elf hunter kiting these dragon right out side and before that, i was leveling in westfall and this dwarf hunter was kiting teremus through all of westfall and elwynn forest all day long everyday. I really dont mind the occasional grief it was really funny and exciting the first time it happened to me the second time the day after, i was like oh okay this again i guess... but now its just fucking annoying since its been every time i log on and unfortunately i have the same play hours as these two griefers i have no idea if other people have been having the same experience as me. (this is all on the na server btw)
1) got what he deserves for streaming (oh well bro) 2) good the griefers got banned for breaking tos and the social contract. You stream your gonna get stream sniped it comes with the territory and you break the rules you get banned.
