Griffin - Hungarian Bow by Paragon - Review 

hahaha thank you

@@ArminHirmer 😄

Look at Armin's review video for the AF Crab bow. One can clearly see the massive ears spring further forward than braced position when shooting the bow. In my experience with that crab bow, heavy arrows fly almost as fast as 9gpp arrows. It looks and feels eery, surprising and fun to feel the weight of the arrow and then it still flies fast, almost as fast as the lighter arrow I just shot a second ago... The heavier the arrow, the more of the bow mass will be useful instead of wasted into shocking the bow itself.

That is not how bows work, sorry, but no. Heavy siyahs are never, repeat never, a good thing. Because, a bow stores an amount x of energy, that energy is shared to move the limbs and siyahs, the string and the arrow. The heavier the limbs and or siyahs are, the more of that energy x is used to move them, so less energy is left for the arrow and string, also minimizing the string mass, leaves more energy to arrow just like minimizing the limb/siyah mass does. I'm a bowyer, and bow making first rule is, minimize the moving mass to get speed, that is true, no matter the arrow weight. If there is 2 identical bows but other ones have heavier siyahs, that bow will always be slower, no matter the arrow weight, light or heavy.

Lol you'd be a big fan of flagellas bows then lmao 🤣

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 the reason why a bow with heavy siyahs is nearly as fast (if you can call it fast) with heavy arrows as light, is not because it throws heavy arrows fast (witch it doesn't), it is because it throws light arrows slow. Bows have certain dry speed, the potential maximum speed, and the heavier the siyahs are, the slower that dry speed is. Light arrows are closer to that dry speed than heavy arrows, so heavy siyahs effect is more visible on light arrows for that reason. But also heavy arrows fly faster on bows with light siyahs than from heavy siyahs bows, but the speed difference is more noticeable with light arrows. This difference between light and heavy arrow speeds is greater on bows with contact siyahs, like the crab bow you mentioned. Contact siyah bows store more energy than non contact bows and they do that by having higher early draw weight. High early draw weight helps especially when shooting heavy arrows, cus light arrows reash the speed much faster, so it is not as much needed with light arrows to have that higher energy at the end of the power stroke as it is with heavy arrows that accelerate slower and thus benefit from the energy at the end more because they are not as close to the dry speed at that point as light arrows are. But light arrows do also benefit from it, but since they are closer to dry speed, there is not as much potential speed left as there is with heavy arrows. And this also does not mean that contact siyahs are always faster than non contact ones, they do store more energy, but if non contact ones are lighter, then they use less energy to move them selves, so more is left to the arrow and it's faster even though it has less potential energy stored.

who counts :D :D and needs.... what are needs. Some bows one just has town :D

hehe yes

thanks. hahaha cosmicbow? show me

@@ArminHirmer just look it up on youtube. I don't want to spoil the surprise. this bow apparently comes from Africa, and has been modified by a French guy. In France, some call it a 'bow in mouth'.

takes a bit to get used to, but shoots really nice

@@ArminHirmer thank you

Did you watch the whole video? ;)

Freddie Archery, but there are some online shops in EU that sell them. Korean Thumb Glove or so

@@ArminHirmer Vielen Dank! Mit ktb glove findet man es noch leichter :)

@@TheKillohr haha stimmt fiel mir grad nicht ein

two very different designs. in general I think the Hungarian is better able to shoot heavy arrows, the performance of the korean comes through a long bending section. hard to say for me

nicht zielen ;) Instinkt und intuition

Kheshig draws longer and I cant compare them, two different beasts :)

@@ArminHirmer Haha well if you were forced to pick one for your desert island bow, which would you choose?

@@GunnerRDS I will leave the island instead and keep both :D

nope

Yep summers are hot and dry here

@@ArminHirmer ^^^Armin, this isn't you? Gregory ^^^

sehr ergreifend :D

@@ArminHirmer Genial kombiniert

I have a mildly high blood pressure. I'm working on it

Maybe :)

We had a few of him already here, great bows for the price

I bought my first Grozer bow 20 years ago, that was a traditional Hungarian Middle Age design (like mongol), but I sold it and bought a TRH later. For me Grozer is the best Hungarian bow maker, I like his bows.