Griffin Newman & Patrick Willems Discuss the Future of Superhero Movies 

8:45 27:45 48:06 1:10:31 Here are the parts that weren't included in the original video.

🎵Blank Check with Griffin and Patrick🎵

Downtown Griffy Newmz rocking the house

That sports analogy was spot on

How about time stamps for the content that wasn’t in the other video?

I immediately thought of Keanu's Constantine when they were talking about unique takes on popular comic characters / standalone films that works

“A weird feeling of emptiness”. That’s called adulthood.

Hold on... Wait a second... Hold the phone... I think David lived in London at one point

It’s actually very weird putting Griffins voice to his face. It’s less weird on the Tick because he’s playing a character. But here, he is more akin to his podcast self (which btw; everyone listen to the Blank Check podcast)

Excellent! And Patrick is a generous interviewer/co-host. It was great the way he gave Griffin the space to articulate his ideas, and how he engaged with them rather than just pursue a pre-conceived list of questions/ideas. A gem of a video.

"hey are you ready to start that video?" "yeah sure one sec, let me grab my dumb hat" "Dumb hat? great idea. I'll go get mine too"

ITS GRIFFIN NEWMAN OF BLANK CHECK AND THE TICK FAME!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Just imagine the beat of Tony throwing his development in the can in Civil War by getting back in his armour if in Age of Ultron he was just the guy in the chair

Can we get a retrospective conversation in light of Endgame?

The doggo walking through and no one pet him/her

I wish we could’ve had Ben on here too. I love griff so much. It’s so weird to be able to see him and hear his voice at the same time 😂

Also, nothing beats McDonald's in Russia. They're definitely Putin something in that food.

This was really great conversation. And I say that as someone who is fully on board with the MCU and their vision for a shared universe.

This video is amazing I could watch hours more of this. Good job. It's great shit

This is a very interesting re watch in 2021.

49:59 TWISTED! *guitar riff*

It's funny how they are grinding Marvel for teasing future movies or not having a discernible ending to its story while praising Spider-Man 2, and at the same time forgetting that in Spider-Man 2 they teased the confrontation between Harry and Peter for a third film and it literally shows in its final shot a preoccupied MJ after Peter leaves to be Spider-Man.

Surprisingly good convo

I thought I was the only one who really liked Guardians vol 2. Definitely one of my favorites along with Captain America the first avenger

Patrick grew up discussing the future of superhero movies

Let us know if Kevin called! .. more special guests... like this video, please!

So looking forward to the next season of the Tick on Amazon Prime.

The nemesis of this dynamic duo is the sun on a clear day.

Loved this one, best discussion yet Patrick. I feel exactly the way you guys do, the only difference being that I feel that if Marvel keeps doing the same thing it's going to catch up to them. Nothing lasts forever, Disney will eventually feel the slow loss of revenue if they keep doing the same thing and Feige will have to start getting more creative. Marvel did an awesome thing and I'll forever respect it, but Endgame should feel like the end of an era. If Endgame doesn't at least give me some sense of closure than I think it failed, and then they've lost me forever. It'll be interesting to see what Marvel does with X-men as that's a universe that I would actually love to see given the MCU treatment, but I want it to look much more cinematic than what Marvel has given us so far. Also, you can talk shit about The Incredible Hulk, but it's the best looking Marvel movie besides the Guardians movies. I'm sick of the cheap feel these movies have, especially considering the budget. Is half the budget going to RDJ? All that said...can't wait for ENDGAME!!!

That yellow bar on site of your videos for some reason always makes me initially think I'm looking at an ad.

really really doubt that any of the characters will be recast. The actors, especially the original avengers, are so synonymous with their characters that audiences will never accept it. I cannot imagine another iteration of Tony Stark that isn't RDJ, especially in the continuity/universe, and I think Marvel knows that

Griffin Newman looks the way I figured... Great Podcast (you should've done 'Spetters' by Paul Verhoeven). Looking forward to 'the 'Look of' David & Ben.

Hell yeah. BLANK CHECK WITH GRIFFIN AND DAVID!!!!

If you think of it like a tv series, you get a tv show where every episode attempts to be either a mid season finale or a season finale with the season premier stuffed into them.

Yaaaay, Griffin!!

I think mostly agree with you. The task of creating a Cinematic Universe is something Feige has done like no one else but now, maybe is the time to even go further and create a Cinematic Multiverse. If like in the comics they stablish the existence of a multiverse, all interconnected somehow they could have many excuses to create risking movies, with special styles, killing characters and use those movies to introduce new characters that have a different fate in the main universe.

I know that you do primarily movies but would you be up for doing a video essay on Mad Men?

45 minutes in and just noticing their socks matching their hats. Now that's swag.

"'The stakes have never been higher'" ...welcome to Shonen Anime.

I do think in the discussion about new/interesting super hero movies some time could have been spent on NON comic super heroes. Something like Chronicle, which I would say is excellent, or even something like Hancock, which is not as great. How these big Marvel/DC events can inspire other writers or filmmakers to make movies that have something to say about that, but that are outside comic books, but still use super heroes.

I feel the same way about Paperwork, Griffin, you're not alone.

Griffin is a delight as always, but the canine cameo keeps catching my attention - whose little IG is that?

The worlds of Patrick (H) Willems and Blank Check coming together? This is my Avengers.

I was hoping there'd be a Vin Diesel plug or hash tag somewhere in this.... =D

It's weird how much they agree with eachother

Dat runtime tho 👀

Does anyone know what Patrick's Nikes are called?

I wonder how this conversation would change after seeing Endgame. Stark, Rogers, and Romanov dead, etc.

I can't wait to see a video on Endgame. It felt like an ending. There was no post credit scene.

Would like to see a follow up on this conversation.

This is sports talk for ya boi

I would love to see Neil Gaiman's The Sandman as a movie or perhaps a series.

With Marvel just announcing their slates for Phase 5/6 and dates for Phase 7, this conversation is still very much relevant to this day.

Can Griffin make a cameo in every video plz?

Starting the video now. Really really really hope they discuss the Eastrail 177 trilogy that 99.9% of the universe seems determined to completely ignore. Fingers crossed.

I dig Patrick's superhero costume: Pretentious Brooklyn Hipster

Griffin is the best person on this planet

For me the question is can they continue the success of Marvel based superhero movies after Avengers since they are going to introduce heroes that might not be as well known as the heroes who were in the previous MCU movies. For example I know Hulk, Captain America, Black Widow, Iron Man but cant say I have read any comics after that time period.

Infinity war left me with a feeling I never thought A Marvel film could cause me to feel. I don’t know what to call it but I felt the same way at the end of episode 9 season 1 of Game of Thrones. I knew Ned Stark was dead but I know all the vanished hero’s are not yet I still felt the same. Kudos to Marvel for taking a chance

Were any conclusions reached? My ADhD won't let me sit for 75 minuten one conversation. Unless it's Before Sunrise.

This is an awesome discussion. Very relevant to film. Very relevant to pop culture. Relevant to the MCU! But you also are kinda stretching your model just a bit far to fit the real-world MCU a little bit and selling them short. As you guys note, Black Panther is a pretty monolithic exception to everything you're doomsaying. But I can see how exceptions prove the rule.

What they are going to do is show Galactus in the end credits of one of the new movies and they will have us all over again

49:43 lol

This guy is so god-damned articulate. Fuck.

So if marvel is a big mac is venom..... street meat?

DOUBLE UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!

They should bring in Legion to Disney+ with Dan Stevens. Also, they're not recasting anybody in the next 20 years, that's preposterous.

What shoes are you wearing?

Cool

Would it just be absolutely fucking incredible if all of the news about Marvel’s future movies are a red-herring and everyone who died in Infinity War is gonna stay dead? Wouldn’t that just be the coolest thing to ever happen in Hollywood?

For a second I thought that was Griffin McElroy

40:00 how Spider-Man killed Hulk

I want a Warhammer 40k movie or series.)

is the background real?

1:12:16

Please do a video on superman returns

I think they will introduce the fantastic 4 and play out their villains and saga. Then I think they will reboot with the X-men. Then they’ll recast Ironman and cap as more side characters . That way the X-men have their universe but you still have all the characters.

This video makes you feel like MCU.

Is that a bottle of lotion what flavor

I think a LovexDeathxRobots scenario would be great for Disney+. Make like 30-40 shorts a year for all sorts of scenarios of every genre for even the smallest character would help find talent and flesh out the universe. Mix in animation and let Disney prototype everything in their attempt to usurp Netflix. Include the short film thing the Aliens franchise is doing now and those more experimental films are will have more cover because they would be "fan films" that have been gotten a serialized limited run with a low budget on Disney+.

TDK trilogy was the only time I felt like I was satisfied with Batman finally saying goodbye.

I've said to my friends the Mc-MCU, everything feels superficial with the long slate of movies announced and basically zero long term consequences and humor to break every scene with some seriousness

COME NOW ARTHUR WE NEED TO SAVE THE WORLD!!!!

Orko what’s up

Greetings fellow Blankies

McDonalds in Spain is actually much better than in any other place ive been in McDonalds from Europe and America. So not counting Asia, Africa or Oceania, (as I havent visit, but I really want to) I would say flavours and quality do change from country to country. For example Big Macs in the USA are trash, Spain has the best ones, and after that i would say Italy.

Here's the difference between Ang Lee's version of the Hulk and Feige's: Ang Lee doesn't really care about the Hulk beyond his movie. Nolan didn't care about Batman, either. Neither did Aronofsky. By the way, neither did David Benioff care about Deadpool, Pitof care about Catwoman or Albert Pyun care about Captain America. You absolutely need to have a version of Feige present to make sure things don't go that far off the rails, but that individual needs to allow for creators to have a voice. Comics have been doing this for many years. Editors' jobs are to function as guardians for the core concepts of the characters, and good comic book editors gave SOME leeway for creators to have a voice and yet still have respect for what the characters represent. I think about words that Denny O'Neill said--"Can you make a story out of it...that's what I always ask."

Couldn't you have put this in podcast form?

Please Time Stamp the stuff that wasn't in the previous video posted.

I think this is basically a description of what capitalism looks like as a culture. Quality that is ubiquitous, and can't be too specific so as to appeal to the broadest consumer base (fast food), and which continues indefinitely as a subscriptive service (sports). Not explicitly in a negative way, it's just how art and media looks when it is born out of a late capitalist perspective. It's like with doritos specifically being designed to keep the consumer from wanting more, and not being satisfied. It ensures a continual profit, because it adheres to ubiquity and on going consumption, which fits when applied to how Marvel oversees, designs, and produces art. Again, while I have a lot of systemic criticisms of capitalism, this isn't necessarily one, because I say all of this more because it has explanatory power for modelling the process based on what you two discussed.

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Patrick liked Thor 2 over Iron Man 2?!?!??! Taste is relative, and there's a whole convo about objectivity vs subjectivity to unpack here, but I would have bet the farm that Thor 2 would have been the bottom of the barrel for almost every nerd out there.

why u negging my joy patrick?

when is a rainy day in new york coming out?

People ACTUALLY looking forward to where the DCEU may be headed... That's not something I thought I'd hear...

My dad makes awful burgers 🍔

I just want to quickly say that this channel has surpassed Redlettermedia as the most entertaining, fun and, most importantly, interesting channel regarding film on RU-vid. Thank you for your content!

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Supoerhero movies are the NASCAR of cinema.

My wish is that they bring back Sam Raimi for one of the spiderman movies His movies had a core that was earned unlike the others I think he could bring something great to the mcu

I don't get this whole long form story telling vs. short form . One off story telling and drawn out story arches are equally valid and worth while when done well. Some people enjoy constant change and others enjoy things that are structured and well known. It's important to proved both types of film story telling. The challenge is that in terms of financial return, the multiple film long form story telling tends to generate the most box office.