Grimgor's BROKEN New Start 

To fight and conquer in all our battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting. - Grimgor

I think it’s actually nice that a new race DLC gives some cool new opportunities to old races too. Gives the content layers.

This video pairs so nicely with milkandcookiesTW last video about siege battles being broken

This video is a definition of Orc's "brutally cunning" philosophy. Mork (or Gork) would be proud.

Oh my god, they fixed Grimgor's weird light green skin in the intro cinematic as well as in-game!

We held the point for 15 minutes, you are now legally required to leave.

At first I couldn't recreate this because not all troops in the center square would leave for the walls. The trick I found was to bring grimgor back underneath the destroyed gate but DONT bring him inside to attack. The AI will guard the gate and send everyone in the square over, minus the hellcannon but they won't attack him as long as he just stays under the gate.

And here I was thinking the Nasty Skulkers couldn't get any cheesier with their "always on" Opportunist Murderer being (in my opinion) bugged to hell. In TW:WH2 it was active "when winning in melee", now it's just an always-on combat steroid from hell.

Nice Video my dude. with the release of every single race and faction, It is Grimgor who gets stronger by getting more chances of a good fight.

This reads like a WoW dungeon guide. I remember the old days of sticking to the walls to avoid aggro.

Just want to confirm this still works, took me a few trys to get it right but you need to make sure your units are tight to the wall in the corner

makes sense with grimgor too considering his history with the chaos dwarves

This is awesome! Imrik tier 4 Zharr Naggrund 1st new campaign

Absolutely love the cheese, nice work man!

Unfortunately, as of 5.0.3 this strategy is no longer valid because the major capture point is locked by default and can only be unlocked by capturing "key" capture points elsewhere on the battle map. I tried a few variations but none seem to work.

Glad I held off on playing Grimgor until the Chaos Dwarfs appeared. Everyone expected his campaign to be different. When the DLC drops I'll actually play a Grimgor campaign first.

It's an awesome start strategy. Works perfectly! Also happened to see 3 bugs on this first play of Grimgor. My hero insta died at gate with no one around him. Waagh you can call afterwards is missing text for chaos dwarves. And also the "cunning" trait overwrites "Skarsniks death juice" skill from Night goblin warbosses.

Nice video mate, you're calm and explain everything very well, thanks for it!

Settlement battles are the biggest problem of current WH. But at the same time … it’s funny how ridiculous it is MilkandCookiesTW has had a similar video about zharr naggarund siege battle but with reverse rolls where the battle ends despite winning but losing cause of the shitty capture the flag mechanic

Cunningly brutal, just like Mork woulda liked it

And to think people were worried about Chaos Dwarf power creep

This honestly upsets me that this is possible, it’s so dumb that the AI will just sit back and not attack your forces outside, as well as simply give up and die because some crappy goblins are sitting on top of a hill

I gave this a shot and came close to capturing it, what happened was there was a hero stationed on the back cap so I had to attack him, he ran and was really a threat but the army that was supposed to move towards the wall did not, plus a random set of reinforcements came from behind the cap so I lost the company of stalkers, I’ll give it another shot and hopefully they will move and I won’t have to worry.

Grimgor's start was easy anyway, literally every game he snowballs, I guess it's only this easy if you're controlling it though, unsure if the AI can still snowball from this position.

That cheese looks so delicious, that I must take a bite.

I hate it; most excellently done!

Great guide! Worked like a charm. If you want to try this, make sure you don't let your skulkers path through a capture point or you lose the element of stealth. Towers can't see you.

Grimgor needs a proper Da bestest mechanic not some fancy start poeitions Give him what he deserves CA He and Queek head taker and Wulfrick the wonderer has the potential of being the meanest characters in the entire game with the most fun campaigns All of these 3 characters are hero and champion hunters you can easily give them some campaign mechanic based on the same aspect and just change the decoration to fit each of their themes

This is excellent, love a Sneaky Git tactic :)

This is genuinely such a well put together tutorial video I thought you would have at least 10 thousand subs that's crazy

Nice video mate, I'll be sure to give this a bash. As a side question, where is your accent from? It sounds like a mixture of very light Scottish and something else?

Excellent work...scribed up...thanks pal...

This is great for when Grimgor is controlled by the player but this new start position will make him almost sure to die off quickly when controlled by the AI which I don't like at all. The AI does not handle starting with minor settlements very well.

Seen a reddit post of your vid last night and instantly subscribed, I love these tricks and start videos! 😊

This really works, gonna bust out this trick for a co-op campaign tonight and surprise my friend, lol

now dis iz brutal kunnin' yer spiky stuntiez gits

Oy git, dat some smelly cheese you did there! gj

Nice , really good video !

Looking forward for Tariff video on this strategy

So nasty skulkers are the equivalent of ninjas from shogun 2. I see.

Still works as of 10/24/2023. Took me two tries as the first try Grimgor walked inside of the settlement. Keep an eye on him to move him back behind the wall the second the gate goes down.

"Some times, I dream about Cheese" *Legend of Total War

now that is brutally cunning

As soon as you started getting nasty skulkers I knew where this was going. The siege AI really needs to be updated

I just found another video showed that Grimgor can actually get this city on turn 2, by moving reinforce position to the core of it...

Snik the stunties where they arent. Grim-gor, The art of Waaaaaaghh!!

So my Grimgor got one shotted while attacking the left gate, including a unit of Infernal Guard. I’ve tried it 3 times in a row and it still happens, I’m trying to figure out what is up with it lol.

they need to fix black orks looking like they have hockey sticks as seen at 5:22

I was expecting one would at least need a waagh

would like to see more like this! great content and now subscribed!

Please algorithm don't let this go viral before release so we can try it before the hotfix

Excellent video great job. This is high cheese and I couldn't see myself doing it though

great work getting this down pat!

Not sure if this works anymore due to victory location being locked until key building is taken. More skulkers perhaps?

Just did this one now. Thanks a lot my guy

CA: How do we make siege battles? CA: Lets make it so they can capture X point on the map and win 1 to 300 manpower difference.

I love this video because it shows everything that is fundamentally flawed with TWWH3 sieges. I mean don't get me wrong i love the cheese but holy fuck.

no longer works it seems, victory location locked until key building is controlled

Mork is pleased

Actually, you could set the reinforcement entry right behind the capture point. 🤣

Great video!

Still works, 1st try got hit by the Centaur patrol + big drake and lost but on 2nd try was smooth af. Thanks! EDIT: Hit by them on the capture point, for some reason they both came for it but on the 2nd try they didn't lol.

Amazing cheese, thank you for sharing!

Some call legend of total cheese quickly the lord must know

cunningly brutal

Subscribed! Quality Content!

Ninja cap is key - Sun tzu

Just in time for chaos dwarfs to get stomped

Nice Video!

Did this and when grimgor broke the gate he just randomly dies at full health???????

Haha, this works the same with Astragoth - some army plus six units of sneaky hobgoblins.

I had no idea looting a settlement reduces the level of it

nice vid, thankyou. I'll be doing this.

The orc "visual" bug is still in full swing when playing dwarfs... like half the settlements even max teir are the orc versions on the campaign map...

Ahh, I love the smell of cheese in the morning

Eccellente tips man, thanks!

Cheese for the Cheese God!

Great video

Just tried it. It works, ty bro 😊

the garrison was really bugged in my game random units got stuck on buildings and uncovered my skulkers still doable but annoying :) love this new starting location

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH! THANKZ STONE IDOL.

Zharr-Naggrund should be a ten-slot settlement for Grimgor.

Dumb AI on campaign map Cheesy tactic to win battle Poorly thought out siege mechanics Nonsensical victory condition. This video is a great example of some of the biggest issues with immortal empires in WH3. Not hating the creator. Also great tutorial and editing!

I don't understand, I did it perfectly first time, but every other time after they just stay in the middle??????????????? WTF!?!?!

Ahhh, I wondered why so many lords. That's clever.

I hope CA sees this and realises that either capture the flag is a ridiculous mechanic for siege victory and requires army losses or total annihilation for victory, or changes the maps to reduce the many forking paths to chokepoints, allows towers to be able to spot stalking units and increases the priority for the victory square to be protected at all times. Another thing they could do is reduce the cost of towers, increase the time to rebuild them and increase the amount of towers that can be built around the victory square from 1 to 4, on top of allowing the towers to spot stalkers (Unspottable units excepted).

Besides meta gaming and me applauding your ingenuity but I won't do this because I think it takes away from the enjoyment but great video!!

Did no one else have the issue of them have the dreadquake morter ability and deleting all of your non-stalking units?

Very cunning but brutal

Just seen this today and figured I’d give it try, but it would appear that grimgor doesn’t have stalkers?

Ah so this is just the same as how you use to own with Skragg in RoC by setting up your whole army on one side and then haveing stalk units cap points its a nice strat but i do think anything capping points should be made visable as the AI is dumb and just ignores them

DIS AIN'T PROPAH FIGHTIN'

Grimgor deserves it I say, the dawi zharr haven't been challenged in a good long while and those slavers need to be shown who's boss

Now im going to play grimgor just to build up a massive waagh and have an epic siege losing every unit except grimgor

thank u, good job.👌

This bug in the siege is funny

So uh, did this cheese. Felt bad because I got the Tier 4 settlement. Then I noticed there was a Cathayan Caravan within reinforcement range of Grimgor and the city. Snagged an extra 37k gold. Turn 5, tier 4 settlement, 62k Gold. Very next turn? TWO MORE CATHAYAN CARAVANS. Turn 6, 138k Gold.

well done

everyone is so excited for the patch/DLC but it means weeks without the SFO mod :(. There's not even building icon progression with out mods 😢!

That is a good example how the capture the flag mechanic is broken and why it should be removed. It's Warhammer total war, not Stealhammer total score.