Legendary Lords Defeat Traits Tierlist 

Makes sense why that gives replenishment, isn't it?

*Isabella sweats*

Well it has been his motto since 2019

Feet fetishists' be sweating

Morathi approves !

Interesting, but that applies to other VCounts too, probably a better idea than using this strategy while playing Vlad

@@nicovelardita8619 Not really, since only Vlad's trait reduces wound time and allows you to farm them as fast as possible.

@@vahlen5281 I mean, while playing Mannfred or Kemmler, letting other leaders defeat Vlad and then you come in to farm them

@@nicovelardita8619 Ah, I see. But it is definitely harder to do it with another VC, since Vlad's faction tends to get wiped out rather easily, especially after losing his starting army. Better to utilize it while playing Vlad imo.

That still sounds like more of a pain than just going around wounding dudes with your heroes, that you'll definitely have more of than you could ever need

Plot twist: They only got that old or that threatening because their defeat traits are so shit that no one bothers to kill them.

So does Karl, with the Warhammer, the namesake of the entire franchise.

Wouldnt Kholeks dad be more powerful?

There are plenty of things older than Mazdamundi. Dragon ogres, dragons, and tree spirits were around before Slann even existed and some of them are about as old as their entire species. Durthu is definitely older and Kholek is likely older too.

@@Grivehn Karl uses a warhammer because that is a religious weapon used by Sigmar. You know, the guy this version of warhammer fantasy is named after.

What a Chad thank you my good man.

cheers boss man

Thank you

Hey king you dropped this 👑

What a God.

Rites tierlist please! There are so many. Some are basically required and some are worthless.

also starting traits for generic lords and heroes. sure. traits like knowledgeable and diciplined are S tier, but what about the others? straight trash? what about faction based starting traits? there are plenty of ideas for more videos. sadly, he'll have to remake them all 6 months to a year after WR3 is out...or lucky?

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Ghorst. Truly the most toxic character. BUT: "Hello, my name is Balthasar Gelt. When I cast Searing Doom for the exorbitant price of 1 manapoint, it is now also a melee debuff and slows the enemy. I AM SUPREME! Also, recruit more knowledgeable wizard heroes!" I just loaded up a file with Gelt to verify this and it still works. Have no file with other wizard lords that have the trait at hand to check if they profit too though. It only seems to work on bombardment spells like Searing Doom, not on direct damage (Final Transmutation) or Vortexes (Gehenna's Golden Hounds).

Poison is a great a trait to have, just because it can have less upside doesn't make it worse then useless effects

@@XmictianX except it only does so in extremely specific circumstances, where otherwise your essentially getting 15% ward save for being in melee with an enemy, it merely gives less upside in very rare scenarios, but his poison is still upside, just less then a better poison

@@NotNewButYork Wait spells apply poison if the lord is poisonous?

yes this is about Total War

He is a god

I'm saying he's actually a legend, you peanut.

So I wasn't the only one to notice!

@@SereglothIV Nope, you weren't! :D

Looks like MK

Isabella: 'You just have to deal with it.'

Slippin Vladdy

Not sure about biggest. Don't remember reading anything about his size. He's definitely the strongest and wisest of the dragons though.

Apparently, recently Arch-Lectors could get a +effectiveness trait for their Witch Hunters and Warrior priests. At LEVEL 2. And yes it stacks. 1: Start as Karl 2: Get a new Arch Lector every time you need a disposable lord 3: Always succeed in assassinations and snares and wallbreaking and- Etc.

I think he's said on streams that they don't do well enough for the work required to produce them. Especially compared to these tier list videos, which are even more informative and take no editing.

Id rather dwarves get an army-wide minor magic resist boost than suck out even MORE WoM tbh...

bruh wtf lmao

Good idea. Need to try that next time.

I'm wondering the same thing. Frenzy is 10 MA and 10% weapon strength. Unless your Lord is being brutalized they should always be above half leadership too.

good idea

Honestly, for all it gets riffed on, the Dread Saurian does have one top marks animation. It's the one that just pushes forewards. Ironically this animation also causes problems, but, in a vacuum it's handy. That animation is the one saving grace of the Dread Saurian. You can never quite pin it down, and there's nothing you can actually do to truly prevent it from punching through the front line. The downside, of course, is that this animation is part of the reason the Dread Saurian is so unreliable at dealing with any single target. Nakai's happy skip is also fantastic, and is at least one of the best charges in the game. The average Saurus Warrior has kind of a unique one where they parry, looks like they swipe with their tail, then double back. Thing is, the animation ends before they're quite back in position, meaning they tag out for the second line of Saurus behind them. This is a small contribution to how Saurus are so damn effective at infantry grind, they start losing models later, since the first two rows at any given time are occasionally swapping out. And of course the Slann. They aren't really meant for combat, but the huge splashes of telekinetic force they bring down have some crazy range and splash targets, and a Slann can absolutely carve through bottom tier units as a result. Finally, the Temple Guard, a unit with such good animations it kinda cheats. The Temple Guard's trick is a simple one. Most halberd units in this game have atrocious animations, but the Temple Guard is only a halberd unit by stats. By animations, it's just your average Saurus, albeit one that just whacks away with its anti-large, armor piercing weapon.

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 you must play a lot of lizardmen

@@alkabek9581 Yuuup. They're my "Just play another Karl Franz" standard.

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 same lmao

It would be B tier then, useful for some lords

I don't play on "legendary". But when I play and go for a one-man-army, I always try to get Isabella's trait and avoid fighting/winning against Mannfred at all costs. It's basically useless and just takes a trait spot.

@@Moritz19081980 It is useless for one-man stacks, it's useless for vampires (I regularly recruit a throwaway lord just to soak up the trait for beating down Mannfred when playing Vlad/Isabella), and it's negligible at best when playing other factions because the counts can't defend themselves even on legendary (and you can just raid, encamp or go from settlement to settlement most of the time)

I think it's a good trait but only for some lords who are better on foot or large / without mounts and with armies having vanguard deployement armies or being fast. Nakai with skinks chameleon, Throgg with skin wolves (i guess?), Kholek jumping on the empire arty or the midgets beard things, Malus on foot with cold ones for a themed army, etc There's room for it, but not for every one.

The problem is it comes in the form of an ability. Any lord that already has that ability doesn't gain anything. Any lord that spends a significant amount of time under 50% LD also doesn't benefit much. There are also some spells/abilites that gives a unit/units frenzy for a duration. Conditional bonuses are hard to compare to bonuses that always apply.

​@@ruukinen There aren't a lot of lords who naturally get Frenzy though, and most lords are not going to be under 50% leadership unless something has gone badly wrong to the point you're probably keeping them out of melee anyway.

THIS! However replacing lord is 5 turns and wound recovery time does not apply. So AFAIK you have to suicide Lords to teleport in 1 turn (with Vlad trait).

That was My Taurox campaign essentially plus his own buffs, item buffs and mortis engine effect from banner. He could solo like 2 armies 😂😂 he had around 170 armour, 72 melee defence, 780 weapon strength and 3 types of regeneration 😂😂 god I loved that campaign.

@@jamaly77 Its not. Wurzag with a crap stack of Savage Orcs can do a lot of damage to enemy forces in a suicide attack. You recruit Wurzag the next turn and then recruit 19 savage orcs in 1 turn. Get a siege attacker ROR if you want to sack minor settlements around the enemy territory and get a lot of income while not caring if your army gets ambushed or caught out.

You can always use another hero to draw the enemy away

It's either 30 or 40. I can't remember now.

But it's the same amount for all legendary and regular lords.

Legend never uses melee because it’s practically useless in legendary difficulty.

@@SadBirbHours And yet a lot of his doomstacks are melee. It is not an absolute dogma, there is a number of units who overcome the disadvantage and then some.

@@prosski7949 Are they though.

@@prosski7949 Some of his doom stacks are melee and they’re usual for races that have extremely poor ranges and are almost always single entity monstrous units with the use of life wizards.

*Volkmar Also if your lord can go on an altar you probably shouldn't put him in one. Usually it just makes him a slower/bigger target