While I agree, The smoke was never read. It was lazy and being pushed. How a flash over was adverted escapes me. But then again the video is heavily edited
Americans are not brothers and sisters of us. They are inferiors, who have much to learn. They suck. We do not. This is how you extinguish a fire. Not by standing around doing nothing. But by actually doing something.
Where can we see the pictures who took the photographers ? Thanks. Où pouvons-nous voir les photos prises par les photographes que nous voyons sur le site? Merci
@ I hope so but I dont see them in use very often. I think police cars should have some too; they help tracking down suspects at night.
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@@Greylocks if you watch the youtube channels of Pompiers de Bruxelles or Brandweer Lunteren you'll see them used in every fire call. For what concerns the police maybe let suspects a chance to not get caught otherwise we'll very quickly end up in the post-apocalyptic movies scenarios ;-)
@ ah, yes. Most of the ones I see are in the USA or Canada where I live. The use of the thermal cameras is more rarely seen here. It does not mean they are not used, just that I do not see them used in videos that I watch. They are a precious tool to have.
A warehouse full of refrigerated rooms (whose walls are made of polyurethane foam), full with tens of thousands of flower bulbs packaged in plastic bags in wood boxes on plastic pallets. The fireman couldn't find out where the fire was located in all the smoke, until the whole warehouse was full of high temperature smoke and not to be saved anymore. They switched to Damage control mode, to save what can reasonably be saved.
Thats dutch society for you ;-) 'the best captains stand ashore'. But you are right, everyone is critical about this, but they would piss their pants if they actually did the - voluntary, 80% of the dutch fire department is not on a payroll - work these men are doing. But situations like this are rare, and there is something going on that we are not seeing. My best guess is the presence of asbestos.
@@ukrainica9121according to a different video of this incident there were lots of wooden pallets and plant bulbs present... those fires are highly combustible and usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner with the focus on saving the surrounding area/property from the fire...
From a place of employment to a scrap yard ,officers in charge decided not to commit because something was going on in the factory that we couldn’t see ,if no risk to life why put your staff in a risky situation but explain that to the owners 🙈🇬🇧
is waarschijnlijk ook de bedoeling... pallet-branden laten ze vaak gecontroleerd uitbranden omdat je die met al het water in de wereld al moeilijk uit krijgt...
Just they are a lots of standing talking and talking they do there job but it's to late walking and walking standing and talking and talking weak 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 they are waiting the intire building fires 👎👎👎👎👎
Wow! Lots of guys in uniform and helmets standing about, walking to and fro, milling around and having committee meetings in various constellations, while waiting for the whole building to become a sheet of flame.
It looks like the actual fire couldn't be located. And yes, lots of guys are standing around untill they can start working the fire. No point in getting people into danger if don't know where the danger is coming from.
Its what you prefer: The dutch approach is: What's the problem? How to solve it without spoiling energy/water and riscing lives? THINK BEFORE ACTING! This is not the US where they start running around and spoil energy in fighting fire in an already lost building iso protecting adjacent building.
75% of their firefighters are volunteers which I think means less cohesion and a smaller group of firefighters with experience. Overall they did a good job. No one was injured or killed. I like that they opened every door and made a plan for where to start fighting the fire. I like their methodical approach for firefighting and the helmets they use seem to be more practical than those of most fire departments here. The built in visors are a great idea and the helmet protects their head in a fall and from strikes by falling objects.
according to several other videos there were materials in the building (wooden pallets, plant bulbs etc) that won't be easily put out with all the water in the world... in the Netherlands, once it's known that such materials are present in the fire focus shifts to saving surrounding areas & buildings and let the fire burn itself out in a controlled manner (pulling down a building next to the fire to create a fire stop-line, thus saving the rest of the property, is a conscious choice made in such situations)....
want dat is altijd het geval? Er zal waarschijnlijk iets geweest zijn waardoor het verliep als het verliep. Ik beste gok is de aanwezigheid van asbest.
@@ukrainica9121Die Dämmung der großen Dächer ist Problem. Es brennt vor sich hin bis zum Flush-Over kijk Leerfilm af Brandweer ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9ocxbuKkSmk.htmlsi=ktwsiUCiyJOV7xNw
Well if you stand around long enough the fire WILL come to you ! Wish we could see OTHER views to see if there was any attempt to attack this fire and stop its advance because nothing was done on this side. And the Demo-Grapple operator was so gentle it was like he didn't want to offend the building. Oh BOY ! C----- F--- for shure !
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What is your evaluation of the materials on fire in the warehouse ? You know, in some cases there is just not any chance to put the fire down even with all the water of the world. In such industrial warehouses it does quickly become Damage Control mode : protect what can be saved and let the fire burn what can't be saved...
@ according to a video from a different fire brigade also present at this fire there were loads of wooden pallets and plant bulbs in the burning warehouse... those are usually left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, with the focus on saving the surrounding area... the destruction of the next warehouse was to create a fire stop-line... (this was explained in the other video)...
WHAT kind of firefight was that...!!!???? WHY wasn't there a ventilation hole cut in the roof IMMEDIATELY...? WHY is everyone standing around waiting for the fire to GROW....??? What a cluster fuck.
Typical American. Hasn't a clue. We've seen American fire fighters running around like headless chickens. No one except the Americans make holes in roofs and smash every window in the building. American fire fighters philosophy make lots of hole so we can feed the fire with more oxygen.
Don't you think that the roof may likely have been of truss construction?
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Ventilation is a question once the fire is out, to remove the smoke. While there is still fire, adding ventilation only makes the fire even worse. When you can't locate the fire but the smoke is already everywhere at high temperature, just shut off everything you can and cool down what can be saved to avoid the fire spread more than necessary.
@@peterbruinenberg5739 dat is na het zien van de beelden ook mijn idee ik vermoed achterin het pand begonnen op een bepaald moment in het dak geslagen en dan telt eigen veiligheid eerst hoe graag je een pand ook wil redden
Ga jij daar maar dan eens staan, misschien moet je iets meer kennis hebben over brandontwikkeling om hier uitspraak over te doen. Er was meteen al erg groot opgeschaald en 4x dpu opgesteld voorhand. Soms dan kan je niet zo 123 bij de brand komen en moet je zo veel mogelijk defensief opstellen.
@waltergeldof4923 Only the aerial work platform fights this very large fire. The rest of the firefighters just stare at the floor. Be active and lend a hand !!!!!!!!!
there are lots and lots of protocols that have to be followed... personal safety is most important, and certain types of fires are left to burn themselves out in a controlled manner, hence needing just the area on this side (and as per several other videos, plenty of capacity on the other side of the building)... judging from just 1 video is about the worst thing you can do...
