Miles' Dogma is sweet! Love that yellow color! As for group rides, I do them every so often, but they're really garbage miles. Too fast to build base fitness, too slow to really hit the high notes of V02. Of course, a lot of people will be maxed out on a ride like this the entire time, which doesn't do anything for them either. I prefer a group ride at about 20mph where I can keep my heart rate down, enjoy talking to the person next to me, and enjoy the scenery. Most of the time though, I just ride by myself so I can stick to my training regimen.
I realized this too that majority of serious training rides are done alone on solo rides. Almost every racer outside of pro world level ride solo to build their base fitness. I remember Luis interviewing someone here whose a crit state champion. She said she primarily rides alone for her majority of training because of the difference in fitness in a group ride and how it could be ineffective for training.
@flippers4298 I'm going to respectfully disagree. If you do the fast group rides once a week then do longer easier rides on Sunday (considering fast groups are trationally on Tuesday) 🙂It's great training and group ride training and being social. I guess it depends. I'm no pro so fast could be good.
@evsta100 I'm not disagreeing just for me as a non-competitive rider the group rides is to test your fitness level by comparison to others. Real training is done solo for fitness. Group rides is for learning to ride with people and if you race tactics like attacks and surge adaptations...energy conservation etc.
Pace lines rules as I learnt decades ago….no brakes (except when stopping/slowing for lights)and always pedal, no freewheeling! Looks like too big a group to stay together. Riding in a real rolling turns/chaingang whatever you call it in your neck of the woods is fun if you’re fit enough to stay in it.
Hi Matt. I agree. 5his just happens to be the dynamic we ended up with after covid as our community really grew. I think of it as a social aerobic workout and they can be fun at times. My riding preference is a group of about 10 sharing the work.
Hi Luis, thanks for the great video. In Myrtle Beach we get visitors with different riding styles, plus the usual range of fitness and group skills. So rotating pacelines are hard with big groups at the B level,. But we do try! We keep an eye out for struggling riders, and try to get them to sit behind bigger and steadier ones. This usually helps! Sometimes we can improve someone's group skills in a single ride - rewarding for them, and for us too.
As far as the yo-yo effect goes. It can definitely become a problem on group rides. The way I've learned to deal with it is not to surge to catch the person/group in front of me. I gradually pick up speed until I've latched back on. However, this technique is not for everyone. Some people can become impatient if they see a gap in front of you and will surge past you(in fear of getting dropped lol) in order to latch back on. Great video Lu!
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I'm loving the content on this channel! I'm curious as to why the rider on the yellow Pinarello @16:41 is just hanging out in the wind? (Unless the head wind is coming slightly from the left?) Sounded like you asked if he wanted to slot in and he shrugged it off.
we have rolling hills in my area like maybe 1k feet of climbing per 15 miles roughly so none of our rides have a consistent speed, they are just advertised as about a certain avg. speed like 17-18mph, 19-20mph, or 21mph+. The really fast rides avg. about 22.5-24.5 mph and I have to do like 600 watts to keep up on the climbs and I can only do that for so long lol:)
@@thegoodwheel yes please. So cool. Not quite my GoPro LOL. I haven't looked it up yet but very cool especially on the bike. Looking forward to it bro lol Can old guys say bro ONCE 🙂
Yeah, I'd also like to know more about the builder of her steel bike. @thegoodwheel A link in the description to something about Augustin Hincapie's story would be great.
Hi there. GCN did a feature on him a few years ago. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XdgiJZP505I.htmlsi=gWwkHT_I4KpzoFJv As far as I know, he is not involved with Scarab.
My guess is either different level of fitness or it's a domino effect at the very front when the stronger riders push a bit more than the weaker riders at the back
Very nice and informative video. It would be nice if you keep the cycling data on the screen all the time. You only had speed and heart rate, but if you can display cadence, elevation and a map too, that will be great👍🏾
You have a very calm personality. Watching you guys ride makes me want to get in better cycling shape. I got a MTB bike to get back into biking. I think I'll get a hybrid next; not sure about the road bike.
We do these AM rides, and your right, one person can have a 30 rider pack yo yo'ing for a really long ways. This one little french gal, shes a strong rider for her age, she always wants to be towards the front. But she is one scared woman, scared of everything it seems........and yet she does these group rides putting herself and others in danger with her inability to ride a steady pace behind another rider. The faster we go the worse she yo yo's. People are crossing wheels behind her, putting on brakes, and perpetually slowing down and speeding up....which at 23mph is a ton of extra work. Some of us have talked to her, she is combative and wants to hear nothing about anything. Nice enough person, but very frustrating, she always shows up for rides.
Curious, what is a "post-covid cyclist"? I've been hearing this phrase used around. Do you mean people who newly took up cycling during lockdown or cyclists who took a break during lockdown/pandemic and are coming back into it now? Or something else?
Goal should be (fairly) steady effort instead of being obsessed with a steady speed. Aside from winds which nobody can control, that should be easy on flat roads. Obviously takes a little more finessing with power modulation and gearing on hilly terrain, but same applies. If I could afford to buy every cyclist a power meter so they can see in real-time how much energy they waste even just accelerating from a dead stop and the effect of repeated surging on themselves & the group, I would in a heartbeat!
Thanks for watching. To my knowledge, it doesn't have to include everyone in the rotation for it to be called a paceline. But to your point, what would you call a group of cyclists in line riding at a pace? Genuinely curious
Again beautiful weather for the ride you show great examples of yo yo-ing in my rides or in training we just didn't have the numbers as you do normally eight to ten riders only rides at 22 to 25 mph every rider holding the wheel in front or a rider will just tail off thank you again i loved the video Keep safe Sir.
What beautiful roads you have Luis, very wide and well asphalted. Here in Italy the roads are ruined and very narrow, and it is also forbidden by law to ride in double rows.
