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Groves Trial Day 3 - Dr Susan Brown - Medical Examiner 

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A mother and father in Scioto County, Ohio stand trial in the death of their infant son. Young Dylan Groves was found dead 30 feet down a well last year, prosecutors said. Authorities blame the boy’s parents-mother Jessica Groves, and father Daniel Groves-for what happened. The defendants are charged with aggravated murder, murder, kidnapping, endangering children, tampering with evidence, interference with custody, gross abuse of a corpse, and four counts of felonious assault.
Problems stemmed right from Dylan’s day of birth on January 10, 2019. The boy was born with drugs in his system, authorities claim. Daniel Groves later got the child back after showing that he followed regulations, but the defendant allegedly started missing important dates, including court dates and doctor’s appointments.
Investigators claim that both defendants bolted on a four-wheeler when authorities dropped by the home for a checkup on May 20, according to WLTW. Deputies obtained a search warrant, got Jessica Groves to give herself up quickly, but Daniel Groves was only arrested after a six-hour standoff. Authorities said they found $42,000 of stolen items at the residence, and later found the late infant in a well.
Deputies said Dylan Groves didn’t even make it to a full three months of age. They claim there’s evidence showing he’d been dead since March.
How Baby Dylan Was Found In the Well:
A coroner determined that the victim had been slain. The child sustained several bone fractures, had been wrapped in plastic bags with duct tape, then put in milk crates that were wrapped in chains, and other bindings, according to WSAZ. The crates were weighted down with rocks and a weight, authorities said. As in his birth, Groves died with drugs in his body, according to the coroner. This allegedly included methamphetamine.
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@joankelley3772
@joankelley3772 4 года назад
She's covering her eyes. They should make her look at what she did!
@vassikotsis-horn874
@vassikotsis-horn874 4 года назад
Joan Kelley - I agree, they should have to see their work! The jury members have to look, they’re just doing a civic duty, yet- they will never unsee the abuse that poor baby endured.
@suziefavaro3730
@suziefavaro3730 4 года назад
Exactly what I was thinking. Absolute monster. Poor little angel suffered so much 😢
@carolmahoney2109
@carolmahoney2109 4 года назад
She's doing that for the camera. She hasn't shed 1 tear for that baby.
@lisadunn1138
@lisadunn1138 4 года назад
She looks more bored than upset, they both do. If that was my child I would be crying my heart out, covered in snot and tears. She's not even red. Pretend sobbing.
@Msrosy145
@Msrosy145 4 года назад
Joan Kelley both of them. 🤬
@TheBeepster10
@TheBeepster10 4 года назад
I appreciate how the Medical Examiner calls him by his name instead of referring to him as a body. It gives him the respect of existing. RIP Dylan x
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 4 года назад
yes, I watch many cases and the examiners usually seem very cold and seperated from the fact this is an actual person and not a "specimen"
@slwtgf
@slwtgf 4 года назад
Sophie Jones ,,Thanks for coming back to, and stating the main point poignantly simple, despite getting lost in these horrific specifics and details..we’re praying 🙏 here the same: Dylan x , RIP xox
@JaimeMesChiens
@JaimeMesChiens 4 года назад
Jennifer S. This mindset is sometimes necessary to do the job in the most-objective manner possible. If physicians and surgeons lacked the abilities to do so, none would last more-than a couple of years. Post-mortem exams are such a vital piece of evidence that objectivity is the only way. Not that post-mortem exam, especially if children and those murdered, is without pain and sorrow to the pathologist for to get the best evidence, one must take a step back. I would bet-and-win that Dr Brown lost a few nights sleep over Dylan Groves.
@beatricemitchell2384
@beatricemitchell2384 4 года назад
@@JaimeMesChiens Thank you, I can only imagine what she went through, when they brought that poor babys body in for her to examine, I am sure she has cried many tears, when she is at home,
@shannon3944
@shannon3944 4 года назад
I could never do her job...the minute a child came in such as Dylan's situation 😡😡.....I wouldn't be able to be objective. It's so terribly sad we have to have, but I'm deeply grateful, for people like her. 😢😢 ❤
@lisabrunton4914
@lisabrunton4914 3 года назад
Shout to the medical examiner who knew every number.. every detail... every fact without hesitation and not needed to refer to her notes ever.... she felt every moment of this case... she did amazing
@angieb1234
@angieb1234 2 года назад
Notice his parents can't even look at what they did to this poor baby. They should have been made to look
@zoereyes8623
@zoereyes8623 2 года назад
@@angieb1234 They can't look because they arent sad about the baby, they are sad that they got caught. Baby dylan for them was just a punching bag when they got mad or high, and maybe they saw him as a oportunity to get easy money for more drugs, but when they killed him it all went down. For them baby dylan was not a human, they are so disgusting. Am glad Baby dylan at least had such an amazing foster mother, who tried to provide him with love and care, am also glad Judy got them justice in her statements. She manage to reach everybody and crush our hearts with how passionate she was about not letting them go unpunish.
@Rae_777
@Rae_777 2 года назад
To be a woman of her generation from a small town going to college, medical school, and extensive advanced forensics training takes a special kind of person who is not deterred by obstacles, is very bright, but also very self-respecting, careful, and responsible. I can only imagine she has lived her entire life with this kind of focus and engagement in what she does, and reflects so well on the strength of her character.
@carolinecarberry1160
@carolinecarberry1160 8 месяцев назад
They should have their own photograph’s so she has done a very good job there
@sarah6557
@sarah6557 6 месяцев назад
It is her job😂😂
@mayj8999
@mayj8999 3 года назад
I think it’s unfair that the jury, who were drafted to serve on this case, had to look at these photos while the two responsible for everything leading up to this were allowed to cover their eyes. It happens like this in so many cases and I feel that the defendants should have to look at the evidence just as the jury is required to
@cce8632
@cce8632 3 года назад
Totally agree.
@JustSaja
@JustSaja 2 года назад
There is no need. They CAUSED it .. that definitely won’t effect them
@moniquesmith3299
@moniquesmith3299 2 года назад
They're sober now. Seeing what you've done though sober eyes is a totally different view.
@zoereyes8623
@zoereyes8623 2 года назад
They dont want to look for two reasons: 1- They are angry that they got caught, hated the baby and only saw him as a punching bag when they got mad or as easy loney for drugs. 2- its manipulative, they are acting hurt so the jury and the judge would think they are mourning the baby and might not receive such a bad punishment.
@srimahewa6074
@srimahewa6074 2 года назад
This is heart breaking
@karenwalters1
@karenwalters1 4 года назад
This woman has to unemotionally review the bodies of heinous crimes of so called human beings. Without people like her the horrendous truth would never be proven. God bless lady
@PetroicaRodinogaster264
@PetroicaRodinogaster264 4 года назад
karen walters There have been some who have falsely ‘found’ evidence that convicted people who were innocent. They are only human and anything can go wrong, no one is perfect. But they see some pretty horrendous stuff.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 года назад
karen walters it’s not done without emotion. It’s done knowing its going to help put the people who did it behind bars. Children are especially hard on the pathologists.
@jriley4131
@jriley4131 3 года назад
Well said!
@JSkyGemini
@JSkyGemini 3 года назад
@@PetroicaRodinogaster264 I'm sorry. When were coroners appointed judge and jury, again? Jesus people are thick.
@Djjfjfjfkdkssl
@Djjfjfjfkdkssl 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. This woman’s strength is helping to bring justice to Dylan.
@laurawilliams5363
@laurawilliams5363 4 года назад
CPS should be on trial as well for failing in every way with Dylan! This is beyond horrific and shameful.
@tatyanatijerina9413
@tatyanatijerina9413 3 года назад
I completely agree with you, at the end of the day cps workers don’t care about the children, they only care for the check unfortunately.
@cathbooth1980
@cathbooth1980 3 года назад
Absolutely...no wonder that CPS worker chose to hide her identity from the media 😔
@user-nv3hp4rg4b
@user-nv3hp4rg4b 2 года назад
Yep. This is happening daily now! Sickening. 😩
@tayskaraoke2298
@tayskaraoke2298 2 года назад
After Gabriel cps will get away with everything
@russellmyren1511
@russellmyren1511 2 года назад
Patricia craft should have demanded or insisted on holding the baby so she can have a better look and when the injuries appear I'm sure Dylan would be alive today if she would have done that so I think CPS should be held accountable as well CPS represents protecting children well they didn't really do enough of that when Dylan it was negligence on CPS part
@justice2255
@justice2255 Год назад
I can't even fathom the amount of pain this tiny baby suffered.
@NunyaBizness2.0
@NunyaBizness2.0 24 дня назад
I just watched a podcast about a 15 day old infant who had 76 fractures. Seventy six. The more the baby cried in the pain, the more her druggy father became annoyed and smashed her tiny body around the room. The little one did not have one day where she felt comfortable, secure, content or loved except the first day of her life while nurses cared for her at the hospital. That story made me literally nauseous and unable to sleep. These cases take a toll on me and I give the MEs and police so much respect for showing up to get justice for them. It can’t be easy seeing these things regularly
@ang8158
@ang8158 3 года назад
12 days...12 days of love is all Dylan got from his _real_ mommy. I wish she could have kept him and gave him the life he deserved😔
@tinab3627
@tinab3627 3 года назад
😞💔
@counselforthedefendant4499
@counselforthedefendant4499 3 года назад
Yes, that saint of a woman would have given him a beautiful life. It’s extremely hard to think about all the what ifs😭 RIP angel baby
@wasimashaikh1117
@wasimashaikh1117 3 года назад
but what was the reason why she did that??
@femf8tal
@femf8tal 3 года назад
@@wasimashaikh1117 The teacher stated she recognized children who may have had a rough home life and only needed some love. She thought that she could help and signed up to foster difficult cases. In fact she wound up being called to take Dylan because she was known to take care of needy children. I’m a NICU rn and I volunteer to be assigned to babies born addicted because I don’t mind the difficulties associated with them. They need love too. And I don’t mind the consistent crying, the DT’s and the “fight” to comfort them. I can tell you after working a 12h shift with a addicted baby I’m usually worn out. And maybe this mom found out she may have been overwhelmed and her drug use didn’t help the situation.
@wasimashaikh1117
@wasimashaikh1117 3 года назад
@@femf8tal oh ok
@tootsd
@tootsd 4 года назад
The poor little guy had a horrible life before his death. So many fractures. It breaks my heart that he went through so much pain in his short life.
@haveyoumetted1000
@haveyoumetted1000 4 года назад
In a way, it is good he died so soon. Just think of the torture he would have endured while being raised by those parents. It would have been best to take him away of course, but I am glad he did not have to suffer longer...
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
Thankfully, precious Baby Dylan had a few days of being loved and secure with his foster mother. If only they had let her keep him and adopt him as she wanted to do.
@warialdasue
@warialdasue 3 года назад
I’ve had a couple of broken ribs and the pain was excruciating. OMG the poor little baby
@tootsd
@tootsd 3 года назад
@@warialdasue It's so sad. When I think of the pain he went through it just makes me sick.
@detrajackson5992
@detrajackson5992 2 года назад
@@haveyoumetted1000 NO! He should have never gone home to these people. PERIOD! Instead he was murdered by the same person who is supposed to love and protect him the most.
@goose7574
@goose7574 4 года назад
This Medical Examiner is one of the best ones I've watched. Her testimonies are always so informative and so easy to follow versus other M.E.'s I've watched mutiple homicide hearings that she's done and she's so well versed with what she does for a living. As gruesome and horrific as this little baby's death was, I'm so glad that this lady did his autopsy. It was DEFINITELY done properly and to a "T", that's for damn sure! Baby Dillon deserves justice and she is helping to get that for him.
@JaimeMesChiens
@JaimeMesChiens 4 года назад
You can look her up under academic papers. She’s written many brilliant articles. I am a neurologist in Connecticut and know her name. She is top-of her field. Pathology is a rough job. Some of the absolute-best physicians that I know are pathologists.
@melissaandersonblue3524
@melissaandersonblue3524 4 года назад
I like that although yes she seems intelligent and capable of doing the job but I also like that she’s warm and most likely treated his body with warmth and respect
@theresenorway
@theresenorway 4 года назад
She’s brilliant like Dr G.
@pamk9333
@pamk9333 4 года назад
What other trials has she been on? Any available on RU-vid? Thanks.
@goose7574
@goose7574 4 года назад
@@pamk9333 I'll try to find them and link them when I can. I'm really sick right now though and can't for a little bit.
@amybrown237
@amybrown237 2 года назад
Never seen someone cry so much without shedding one tear
@nicolemoore3275
@nicolemoore3275 Год назад
She was only covering her face so she wouldn’t have to look at the carnage she caused. There was absolutely no remorse for that poor baby only that she was caught.
@LA-gg7mg
@LA-gg7mg 5 месяцев назад
That's what I was thinking - and trying to figure out. It appears that she's not really crying. Such a sad story.
@nurseprac.nikki513
@nurseprac.nikki513 3 года назад
I’m a nurse practitioner and I’ve not had the experience of testifying but I thoroughly enjoy watching when an attorney tries to trip a physician up and they stand their ground and come off unphased.
@julsc2106
@julsc2106 6 месяцев назад
Correction you are a gorgeous nurse practitioner ❤❤❤
@newmommy413
@newmommy413 4 года назад
God bless the medical examiner, she looks as though she has made peace with the evil that her profession has to witness. 💔 RIP baby Dylan💔💔💔💔
@tracie2741
@tracie2741 4 года назад
I am so grateful we have people like this doctor who spend their lives doing a job most of us couldn't do. She's going to be a big reason that Dylan gets justice.
@pamk9333
@pamk9333 4 года назад
@@tracie2741 Not to mention the detectives and firefighters who retrieved the body. What a horrible traumatic thing for them. They tracked down the body. RIP, baby boy.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 года назад
Saddies L. It affects them. Especially the children they have to autopsy. A child is never just a body, or a normal part of the job.
@firehorse66100
@firehorse66100 3 года назад
totally agree. i work for 6 Pathologists and type up autopsies on a regular basis. Dear Dylan RIP, so sorry this happened to you xx
@Medietos
@Medietos 3 года назад
I wish ppl would stop saying the child should be ripped. How horrrible. Leave him be.
@susanannjordan
@susanannjordan 4 года назад
She’s one hell of a great witness. She must really have to disassociate her mom instincts to not want to kill those parents.
@lisawhite4698
@lisawhite4698 4 года назад
susie jordan Dr. Brown does seem to look at the parents with disgust!
@jlcollins7673
@jlcollins7673 4 года назад
@Carielynn 330 exactly. I could NEVER do this job. Thank God someone can!!
@fathersdaughter173
@fathersdaughter173 4 года назад
I think she would l ije to strangle the prosecuter! "But yet again these injuries could. Have healed at any point in time!? Correct?" Aaaghhhhh kidding me
@59Alaskan
@59Alaskan 4 года назад
@@fathersdaughter173 you mean Jessica's defense atty??
@fathersdaughter173
@fathersdaughter173 4 года назад
@@59Alaskan yes
@meshezza
@meshezza 3 года назад
I’d love to know what their poor 15 year old son has been enduring all these years if this is what they’ve done to a two month old
@gailthomson3873
@gailthomson3873 3 года назад
Exactly what I thought he probably kept out of there way so they wouldn't hurt him
@drfabsoonjd
@drfabsoonjd 3 года назад
Praying for him.
@aprildrollinger6720
@aprildrollinger6720 3 года назад
@@gailthomson3873 up
@68dillpickle
@68dillpickle 3 года назад
Something must have gone wrong with this family. She was a nurse at one point right? I don’t know if they were on drugs during their first sons childhood.
@cynthiasmullins
@cynthiasmullins 2 года назад
@@68dillpickle he's still a child, so yes they were drug addicts during his childhood.😭😭
@juliefeatch1227
@juliefeatch1227 2 года назад
I was in awe with that prosecuter. She was amazing in everything she said. She fought tooth and nail for that baby.. God bless her. 😍
@terry9061
@terry9061 4 года назад
So hard to imagine that anyone would do that to a baby.
@elsayedina
@elsayedina 4 года назад
Not to mention their own flesh!
@cassandra6710
@cassandra6710 4 года назад
Yes it is very hard, I'm 7 months pregnant with my 1st and it makes it even harder to watch.
@filomenaorfitelli4835
@filomenaorfitelli4835 4 года назад
I so agree they must of been high to do such a thing
@cinder7183
@cinder7183 3 года назад
They don't see him as a person, they see him as a thing.
@corneliakobilke4638
@corneliakobilke4638 3 года назад
@Native Nfree ill be honest. Ive gotten mad at my baby. Exhausted, hungry, stressed and she wont stop crying. This isn’t about that. This is.... i don’t even know..
@necholeroberts9765
@necholeroberts9765 4 года назад
Now we know why she was always cradling the baby when the case worker came over. This baby had broken ribs 😭 Shame on everyone who failed this little angel.
@16watch
@16watch 4 года назад
Nechole Roberts , I know. So disgusting. Just give the baby up!!!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@armpitfuzz
@armpitfuzz 4 года назад
Here in the UK we had a toddler called baby "P" his mother smeared chocolate spread over her childs hidious wounds when having visits from social services. The poor little scrap didn't stand a chance.
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
I truly believe Baby Dylan was already dead at the March 28th visit if the social worker even visited. She certainly did nothing to examine him from across the room sitting on the couch. She said he was being fed when she was sitting there and then was burped but didn't make a sound. Have you EVER known a baby to not make some sound when being moved to be burped, ever? I believe Baby Dylan was already dead at that point. Do remember they said they kept him there for "a couple of days" after he died.
@jlcollins7673
@jlcollins7673 4 года назад
Yeah. But the caseworker never noticed anything wrong. Even though Daniel Jr saw the bruising.....and the baby weighed 4 effing lbs....yet.....CPS noticed NOTHING.
@beatricemitchell2384
@beatricemitchell2384 4 года назад
@@jlcollins7673 The case worker they put on the witness stand was Rude, she seemed upset, when she was being questioned, about the condition of Dylan when she would go and check on him.
@guitardiva2
@guitardiva2 Год назад
If the parents had put as much time and effort into caring for baby Dylan's safety as they did in building his coffin, perhaps Dylan would still be alive today - unbelievable what this child endured from the people who are supposed to love and care for him. Breaks my heart 😞
@LadyAmalthea0615
@LadyAmalthea0615 3 года назад
I can't imagine being on this jury and seeing those photos. That would be something that you'd never forget. Just hearing about what this poor baby went through is horrible. It's also a reminder of how much we should appreciate medical examiners. They speak for those who can't speak for themselves. I can't imagine what this lady has seen. The parents should be forced to look at these photos to see what they have done. They don't even look like they're really crying. Just trying to hide their faces and eyes from what they've done.
@pinkfluffydino8217
@pinkfluffydino8217 2 года назад
Right? All that ‘crying’ & ‘sobbing’ and yet dry faces, dry lashes and no redness or blotches on their faces at all! Just trying to get pity. Makes me sick!
@lostinnevermore5354
@lostinnevermore5354 4 года назад
They literally broke every bone in this innocent child’s body. I hope they get everything that’s coming to them X 3. Evil pathetic demons.
@elsayedina
@elsayedina 4 года назад
Lost In Nevermore You are right “Demons” is the right word. I’m praying that they Get torchere every minute of the rest of their horrible lives.
@patwats8860
@patwats8860 3 года назад
I don’t even know what a severe enough punishment there could be for the abusers. Beyond torture because that baby lived in agony.
@davidpietarila699
@davidpietarila699 3 года назад
I don’t know... I think that there is a level of evil that even demons would reject.
@cathyshirley3948
@cathyshirley3948 3 года назад
@@patwats8860 people in prison will take care of them
@lisaritichie7458
@lisaritichie7458 2 года назад
@@cathyshirley3948 oh yes they will!
@christinerodriguez9508
@christinerodriguez9508 4 года назад
Hey take your hands down and take a good look . you had no problem looking while you was killing the baby. So stop your crying. You did not cry when you decide to kill. Shame SHAME I'm just saying
@jennifers.3818
@jennifers.3818 4 года назад
shes probably not even really crying. shes covering up so the jury doesnt see that shes actually not even phased
@JaimeMesChiens
@JaimeMesChiens 4 года назад
Christine, I am with you 100%.
@donnab7666
@donnab7666 4 года назад
And even after death. They had no problem wrapping him in all that garbage
@elsayedina
@elsayedina 4 года назад
I can’t believe that anyone is capable of being that evil. I’m so angry with everyone was involved in the crime. May all of them go to hell!!!!
@dennaljohnson1951
@dennaljohnson1951 4 года назад
I was screaming at the screen! LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID YOU COWARDS! Over and over
@leomama
@leomama 3 года назад
My 5 month old son is my world. He’s my reason for waking up everyday & my reason for living. I literally can’t understand how a “mother” can hurt her child. I can’t even stand to hear my baby cry.
@kdaily7698
@kdaily7698 3 года назад
I loved watching this trial. The prosecutor took this case personally, she was a bulldog in the court! Too bad she didn’t prosecute the Anthony case
@peepaw0_0
@peepaw0_0 2 года назад
Casey Anthony would be rotting in jail today if Julie could prosecute her
@michellebrodeur3880
@michellebrodeur3880 2 года назад
prosecutor in Anthony trial messed up by only going after murder in the 1st, he should have went after manslaughter or 2nd degree murder and she would have been found guilty
@wandacuti9487
@wandacuti9487 4 года назад
I dont understand why in the hell our courts dont make these defendants look at the autopsy pics. They did it so to my in my opinion they should be forced to look at what they did to the victim in court.
@wendymathews1030
@wendymathews1030 4 года назад
They should put the autopsy photos on the walls in their cells so they have to look at them EVERY DAY. She beat a baby. It just blows my mind.
@wandacuti9487
@wandacuti9487 4 года назад
@@wendymathews1030 I agree. They should have to see it for the test of their lives.
@whatthecroc3483
@whatthecroc3483 3 года назад
@@wendymathews1030 I agree
@utuberhoda
@utuberhoda 3 года назад
On one hand defendants are presumed innocent and we can’t and shouldn’t force defendants to look at the photographs, but on the other hand the defendant’s (or plural) body language and behavior during the entire trial tells every reasonable person a ton of accurate information!!
@margaritaperez3777
@margaritaperez3777 3 года назад
They are covering their faces it's not fair. The baby suffered
@MsWaggydog
@MsWaggydog 4 года назад
The mother is 39??? She looks 60.
@sarahclarke7275
@sarahclarke7275 4 года назад
That's because she's a nasty meth junkie
@stephaniejacobs1267
@stephaniejacobs1267 4 года назад
Yep, drugs will surely do that to a person.
@kellyjimenez5621
@kellyjimenez5621 4 года назад
Wow crazy but that is what drugs do to poeple
@kellyjimenez5621
@kellyjimenez5621 4 года назад
@@stephaniejacobs1267 sorry i said the same as you my apologies i did not read it
@michellepotter5763
@michellepotter5763 4 года назад
Drugs are bad, mmmkay
@chantalsfupafluff.9807
@chantalsfupafluff.9807 Год назад
Bless this woman for giving Dylan the voice he never had chance to have. She completely blew apart the 'oh I dropped him, I don't remember' excuse with pure facts.
@kaerbear
@kaerbear 3 года назад
1:04:00 this made me cry. That poor baby suffered so much with nobody there to help him. Every breath was painful. Every cry would've hurt. On top of all the pain of withdrawal and lack of love, it's too much to comprehend.
@h3llnite
@h3llnite 4 года назад
I have nothing but respect and total admiration for the medical examiner. Professional and unemotional the entire time. Amazing fortitude in such a difficult role. She is truly a dedicated and justice focused human 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@dra2521
@dra2521 3 года назад
Not completely unemotional. You can see sometimes in her eyes and the set of her mouth that this was a difficult autopsy to perform and reiterate. But she's done it for so long that the shock of it all has probably worn off for her.
@VABee59
@VABee59 4 года назад
I WOULD HAVE MADE THEM STAND UP, PUT THEIR HANDS TO THEIR SIDES, OPEN THEIR EYES AND FACE THE PHOTOS.
@honeybadger1847
@honeybadger1847 3 года назад
Yet you probably think “Clockwork Orange” is a disgusting movie.
@mizza9595
@mizza9595 3 года назад
Why would watching this affect the in any way since they actually caused these injuries. This would affect people that could never hurt a child so we could eliminate these monsters.
@pgyt5548
@pgyt5548 3 года назад
Yes. I don't know why these killers even have rights.
@dfwm6660
@dfwm6660 3 года назад
If the was in the uk there's no way they could hide their faces. The the judge would have made them look at all the evidence.. and also the Medical Examiner isn't as good as what people make out..
@courtneypainter5073
@courtneypainter5073 3 года назад
@@mizza9595 probably a little more then it did as the time of meth head junkies and honestly to shame them and glue it in there head again the jury has to watch it and this pathologist is having to relive the situation
@Jesus_H._Christ6598
@Jesus_H._Christ6598 3 года назад
"Your Honor, let the record reflect that Mr. Groves' attorney dresses like a cruise ship magician." "So noted."
@evelineleach3642
@evelineleach3642 3 года назад
Yes and everything is um um um she is painful and irritating
@DizzKola3
@DizzKola3 3 года назад
Also seems to be her first day on the job. She always looks confused.
@vanessacarman5031
@vanessacarman5031 2 года назад
Thank you! I was trying to hold back, but can't. She is as irritating as a mosquito! So hard to follow with her failed smoke and mirrors trick. Questions are convoluted and confusing. Couple that with the 'um's' and dry hand rubbing, I think self-representation would be as effective. In her defense, it was a lost cause.
@duskandbutters1466
@duskandbutters1466 2 года назад
@@vanessacarman5031 what are they really suppose to do? There's so much evidence against their clients. They're just getting a paycheck and making sure these monsters get put away.
@vanessacarman5031
@vanessacarman5031 2 года назад
@@duskandbutters1466 I agree. Therefore my statement, ' In her defense, it was a lost cause'.
@jbeebs1
@jbeebs1 3 года назад
4 months of this poor baby Dylan’s life were battling drug detox, healing of broken bones from past beatings, and then the final beatings and thrown in a well. If there is a heaven or life after death, I hope and pray that he is provided the best life!
@princesssexymamma23
@princesssexymamma23 3 года назад
Me too😭 To hear of what this precious child endured is so horrific and sad.
@Bamagirllp
@Bamagirllp 4 года назад
That female prosecutor is a beast!! You go girl!
@bayleighlindamood4910
@bayleighlindamood4910 3 года назад
We down here in Portmouth love Julie!! She tears into people and goes after it!
@kaceleavell3882
@kaceleavell3882 3 года назад
Hey she’d be a great candidate for Congress or Senate
@srimahewa6074
@srimahewa6074 2 года назад
Oh.yea she's good
@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244
@thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 4 года назад
The authorities have to stop giving children back to abusers, they share in The guilt for not protecting this baby.
@lindseyl.7983
@lindseyl.7983 4 года назад
In my state, we've had a lot of little kids be given back to abusive& neglectful parents. They kids were then murdered by them. In fact, a CPS department in a county outside of mine is being investigated for failing to report horrific living conditions& at least one baby died from the neglect. I'm talking insect infestations& filth that they flat out ignored. I wish I was exaggerating because it's really upset me& I wish they were isolated incidents. This is totally unacceptable because these people are supposed to be protecting kids. They seem to take from parents without any abuse occurring& allow other kids to remain with monsters.
@cherylkedzior
@cherylkedzior 4 года назад
Absolutely!!!
@elainepavek3156
@elainepavek3156 3 года назад
Abusers need to be sterilized so they can't procreate.
@karacole2304
@karacole2304 3 года назад
Right? His foster mom would have been the best for him. What an absolute tragedy. I'm glad they are in jail for life with no parole. Sickos.
@dariadavies256
@dariadavies256 2 года назад
They should be held accountable and put on trial too, I feel the same about incompetent police also. If they actually worried about their own lives being ruined and put in prison maybe they would do a lot better job or maybe realise the job is not for them in the first place!
@AnnieAdelia
@AnnieAdelia 3 года назад
I want this Dr. to do my autopsy and testify on my behalf if something terrible ever happens to me. She's a real life hero.
@maryferguson6226
@maryferguson6226 3 года назад
The doctor explained everything very clearly in a way that is easy to understand. We will never fathom the horrible pain baby Dylan was in before he died. Still no visible tears from the mother.
@barbarawilder2956
@barbarawilder2956 4 года назад
I am a medical transcriptionist. "Well developed, well nourished" just means they are not a skeleton and have arms and legs. It makes me sick when defense attornies try to say "Well, he was well fed" before they killed him. I need to quit watching baby killer trials......
@pattiollweiler2496
@pattiollweiler2496 Год назад
As a retired MT myself, that failed to escape me as well.
@lisavalenti1963
@lisavalenti1963 4 года назад
This Angel Dylan weighed less in death than when he was born. Poor baby is in God's hands and safe now.
@theresenorway
@theresenorway 4 года назад
But his body was decomposing
@sandraslaton5126
@sandraslaton5126 4 года назад
@@theresenorway Just the body but not Dylan's light. God bless him
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 года назад
Thea mama Emma depends on how decomposed he was. Decomposition can often make a body gain weight due to expansion of bacteria in the gut. Bloating.
@CountrySteve2
@CountrySteve2 3 года назад
@@theresenorway good point
@judytullos9889
@judytullos9889 3 года назад
@@theresenorway His skeleton would not have shrunk to twenty-plus inches in lenghth.
@tomikasherrick1959
@tomikasherrick1959 3 года назад
Cps needs to start being held accountable. It seems like they are always leaving kids in situations they shouldn't and getting involved in things when not necessary.
@theresajohnson1959
@theresajohnson1959 2 года назад
My exact words!!! Half if not more don’t do enough so save the children, POS
@candigaler1845
@candigaler1845 3 года назад
As the mother of a baby who died at four months old because of sudden infant death syndrome i can not comprehend how anyone can be so utterly evil they deserve to die we don’t even have the death penalty in England but I would want it for these two inhuman monsters my heart is heavy right now sleep tight little man x
@shannon-fq5gl
@shannon-fq5gl 3 года назад
So sorry for your loss 💔
@chantalc4575
@chantalc4575 2 года назад
You cannot comprehend it because you are a normal, good person. These " parents" are monsters. So so sorry for your loss 😞
@caroljacob6734
@caroljacob6734 4 года назад
The CPS workers that did home visits should also have to see and listen to Mrs Browns Testimony.. they need held accountable too. They didn't see much of Dylan or even hold him. Just saw her holding him and only saw a little of his forhead face and hands.. And 1 visit included the CPS worker going in setting on the couch Through the visit. And only seeing the baby from a sitting position while he was covered laying in his playpen.. The worker needs fired and all 32 of her pending cases needs investigated to make sure this doesn't happen to another child. 🙁
@melissaandersonblue3524
@melissaandersonblue3524 4 года назад
Carol Jacob I wish children services would have to have body cams for interactions with anyone they investigate. Like the police have could have greatly impacted the victims here’s g
@caroljacob6734
@caroljacob6734 4 года назад
@@melissaandersonblue3524 I completely agree with your assessment on what should be a requirement of all CPS interaction of these cases.. especially going forward.
@taratrudeau2029
@taratrudeau2029 4 года назад
This worker was a lazy piece of crap. She should be banned from working with children for life. How could you not go over and look at the baby especially knowing the history of the parents and that the baby would be withdrawing from drugs . This worker was so negligent.
@caroljacob6734
@caroljacob6734 4 года назад
@@taratrudeau2029 I completely agree. 🙁
@mymai2792
@mymai2792 4 года назад
If its any indication of many countries - child protection services are woefully underfunded, understaffed & sparsely resourced. Many of the workers have multiple hudreds of active clients on their books. Also social/case workers are lowly paid. Couple that with the isolated area the Groves lived at & their evasive ways to hide & not keep appts. this used up a great deal of the case worker's time ...& there were many other urgent clients to be seen as well. This is NOT an excuse. There was more the services could've done. If a fraction of the defence budget or police weaponry could be directed to social services then a lot of these cases can be better monitored. This would allow the case worker to spend more time to observe the child in jeopardy during visits rather than only checking if a child is alive.
@sararomero7090
@sararomero7090 4 года назад
Why didn't they just refuse to take the baby back? Foster mom would have gladly adopted him. If they didn't want him, just say so!
@louisebart8550
@louisebart8550 4 года назад
Sara Romero Totally agree with you. It just doesn’t make any sense to me at all. They would certainly have been looked on better doing that than what they ended up doing..........it’s just heartbreaking 💔
@TGRAM7
@TGRAM7 4 года назад
They were probably getting a welfare check for the baby....that they were probably using for drugs. I’m sure that’s the only reason they ‘wanted’ him.
@selahjames1267
@selahjames1267 3 года назад
@@TGRAM7 yeah, i get that. What i dont get is how does killing him help them with the welfare checks. People are stupid. As disgusting as it sounds, u would think they would keep him alive to keep the checks coming.
@terribelk4039
@terribelk4039 3 года назад
It’s my opinion that the state knows from all the evidence that this baby was in a toxic death trap. The state has to pay the foster parent. I believe the state gives the children back to the parents, because they know the child would be killed. This saves the state thousands of dollars monthly per child. There are a lot of cases like this. State gives child back to his demise. Wth?!
@pinupgirl9160
@pinupgirl9160 3 года назад
Does anyone know how CPS initially got involved? Was it because she had drugs in her system at Dillon’s birth? How long did he live with this foster mom?
@85oliveoil
@85oliveoil 3 года назад
What got me was the rib fractures and the medical examiner saying it would have hurt him with every breath 😔
@iwantthe80sback59
@iwantthe80sback59 2 года назад
I can attest to that. Broke 3 bottom ribs this past February. It was agonizing to breath. I had to do breath exercises in Physio because if your lungs don’t expand properly pneumonia sets in. It was agony. And imagine that with all the other broken bones Dylan had.
@1stsharkb8
@1stsharkb8 3 года назад
It must be horrifying for the jurors to have to look at photos of this.
@geographicoddity9444
@geographicoddity9444 4 года назад
This might seem cold, but are we suppose to buy that she loves that baby angel now that he’s gone when it was obvious that she didn’t care a thing about him before, during and after his birth? I’m not buying what she’s trying to sell.
@JC-jm3jt
@JC-jm3jt 4 года назад
She is sad she got caught. That's all that is.
@raewebb1399
@raewebb1399 4 года назад
The parents are embarrassed of what they did
@PimpStar1331
@PimpStar1331 3 года назад
That's not cold, that's just a fact! She only cares about herself.
@SierraGal
@SierraGal 3 года назад
She’s not sobbing for the loss of her baby, she’s crying because she got caught.
@michellewilliams2776
@michellewilliams2776 3 года назад
She not crying for him so I don't know who would be sold to her crying wouldn't think that she would be crying for a child she murder.
@aimsatlife4142
@aimsatlife4142 4 года назад
When I cry that hard , my face is red , my eyes swell shut and my nose red and runny. My cry face lasts days after - it seems to me allegedly that “they the parents” are not really crying
@dra2521
@dra2521 3 года назад
I'd be willing to bet that they were advised by their lawyers to appear upset and remorseful. Unfortunately for those lawyers, this couple are terrible liars.
@kaymeow
@kaymeow 2 года назад
@@dra2521 The father is falling asleep through half of it and his hands are shaking... Wouldn't doubt he needed a hit of meth in the courtroom... The parents are disgusting humans..
@iwantthe80sback59
@iwantthe80sback59 2 года назад
All that and my eyelids and that part underneath my eyebrows swell up soooo bad it takes days to look normal again.
@theresahatfield1125
@theresahatfield1125 2 года назад
You can also see Jessica is hunched over the desk but no marks/droplets on the surface… like she’s not actually crying. She’s just not looking at what she did to poor baby Dylan.
@karend99143
@karend99143 2 года назад
1:03:08 I had 2 broken ribs when I fell on Stairs. There was NO BRUISING OR SWELLING on the outside of my body. But the Pain was Immense. Poor Dylan, May He Rest In Peace with the Angels….
@lilianahogan6314
@lilianahogan6314 2 года назад
In August 1996, I was 4 years old and was involved in a gate accident which left me in hospital for 4 months with lacerations to the back of my head, right tibia broken in 4 places, right femur broken also in 4 places, a shattered pelvis and fractured back which is why I had an 8hrs 30mins of emergency surgery.... I was in horrific pain that I was going in and out of unconsciousness so I can't imagine what baby Dylan went through 😢🥺💔 Bringing a baby into the world should be the happiest time of any parents life and baby Dylan never got to reach any milestones! These animals shouldn't be allowed to breathe in prison!
@alicehawkins8685
@alicehawkins8685 4 года назад
This father helped her get rid of this baby he's worse than a driver would be during a murder or drive by... Goodbye dude you helped you're just as guilty as her..
@travitoburrito10
@travitoburrito10 4 года назад
These two should be forced to look at what they did to their innocent newborn😱🤮😠 Absolutely disgusting imagine the agony this child went thru in his very short life 😔💔
@susanschroeder9553
@susanschroeder9553 4 года назад
Baby Dylan's torture stared in the womb. Think about it. Poor little guy was born addicted to drugs and went thru withdrawals. If that wasn't enough, the mom tortured him after CPS gave him back to his natural parents. When that happened, they signed his death warrant. CPS should also be held accountable for their part in this. They suck to say it midly.
@lauriealvaro5816
@lauriealvaro5816 4 года назад
I agree those two people should be forced to look at those photos and they should receive the death sentence for sure that lady sure is well educated that makes my stomach hurt thank God I had good parent's my mom and dad yelled my brother Marc and me too. mom and dad would never ever do that me or my brother Marc
@amberarchbold3666
@amberarchbold3666 3 года назад
Anyone noticed the birth giver is "Crying", but there are no tears. My heart breaks for this child and the foster carer, who is probably haunted by this loss :(
@mariahunt6097
@mariahunt6097 3 года назад
Why were these murderers not forced to look at the pictures of their evil deeds?
@stephaniec0625
@stephaniec0625 3 года назад
I pray for the foster mother. She loved that baby more in 2 weeks than his "birth mom" ever did.
@tracyrobbins6300
@tracyrobbins6300 3 года назад
I would’ve thought she would Have held her breath to at least make her face turn red if she couldn’t cry.
@maddiepinkgirl
@maddiepinkgirl 3 года назад
This makes me want to become a cps agent to help and save sweet children like Dylan from monsters like this! I can't get over how failed he was by the system! It's so heartbreaking!
@melissacurtis7216
@melissacurtis7216 4 года назад
I've been watching and reading true crime for 30 years, this testimony shook me to my core.
@spiritwalker9903
@spiritwalker9903 3 года назад
Trial of rosenbaums the foster parents convicted of killing foster child Layla daniels was devastating as well.
@noneofyourbusiness302
@noneofyourbusiness302 3 года назад
Anytime a baby or child is murdered it's horrific 😢 but, when it happens to this degree, we can't help but shut down, it's just too much to comprehend! That poor, precious angel 👼 baby!!!
@raintree3383
@raintree3383 3 года назад
me too....have you watched cheyenne harris her baby with the maggots ? That is for me the worst one the newborn sat in a swing in a dark room for 13 days......sorry I have to share cuz I am f35cked up over it....from Canada
@melissacurtis7216
@melissacurtis7216 3 года назад
@@raintree3383 no, but I watched Gabriel Hernandez trial on Netflix. I cried.
@tennysonparks2059
@tennysonparks2059 3 года назад
@@raintree3383 it's horrific. He got eaten alive by bugs and maggots. Check her Facebook.
@isabelramos3024
@isabelramos3024 4 года назад
Instead of doing tests on animals they should do on people like these.
@PetroicaRodinogaster264
@PetroicaRodinogaster264 4 года назад
Isabel Ramos yes indeed.
@ebrooks24711
@ebrooks24711 4 года назад
Great idea, but that would make us a barbaric society.
@kristenjustkristen9462
@kristenjustkristen9462 3 года назад
@@ebrooks24711 We're already barbaric. Look at these two. Prime example. And that was their OWN child they did this 2. I'd hate to see what they'd do to non relatives. I'm all for testing shampoo out in thier eyes. Daily.
@patriciarowe3431
@patriciarowe3431 3 года назад
Isabel Ramos,,,,,,,,,you say tests on these people should HAPPEN OTHER than animals???? It would not remove the despicable vile evil that lives within people like this.... GOOD PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER REPEAT OR GET INVOLVED IN THE BEHAVIOR OF THESE DEMONIC MONSTERS... I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELINGS WHICH BY FAR WE SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SICKENED BY THIS BABY'S DEATH. THEY JUST NEED TO BE ELIMINATED AS JUSTICE FOR WHAT AT THEY DID.... WHY DO THEY HIDE THEIR FACES AND CRY???? WHERE WAS THE TEARS FOR THEIR SON WHEN THEY TORTURED HIM TO DEATH?????
@voicije
@voicije 3 года назад
absolutly!...more so when this is life without parole and death row ... i sign to the brilliant an great possible improvment for reserches
@gabrieledersch6003
@gabrieledersch6003 3 года назад
Dr. Susan Brown did a great job explaining. Very disturbing case. Dr. Brown got emotional but her testimony was very professional. The prosecutor did a great job. Thank you. God bless you.
@someidiot420
@someidiot420 2 года назад
i really like how the medical examiner really emphasized that even if by some miracle there was no external sign of injuries, the baby was in indescribable pain and was crying out to his parents.
@pattiollweiler2496
@pattiollweiler2496 Год назад
I agree, however one shouldn't try to share out the guilt here. It lies exclusively with the perpetrators.
@someidiot420
@someidiot420 Год назад
@@pattiollweiler2496 absolutely. i just really loved how she made it clear that there was no possible way they couldnt have known something was wrong. shes a very good expert witness.
@cathyhudson5792
@cathyhudson5792 4 года назад
Cant imagine having to look at these photos.
@susanluvsrobbyfox
@susanluvsrobbyfox 4 года назад
@Michelle doe I do too!
@novascotiaskater1868
@novascotiaskater1868 4 года назад
Yeh I imagine that without the drug induced haze that kills all emotions, they are actually feeling ( maybe...if they have a heart at all) the true emotions that come when you have brutally murdered your helpless innocent baby and pictures of his body are being shown to The Whole world!
@lullubelljingles9567
@lullubelljingles9567 4 года назад
@Michelle doe you would be haunted for the rest of your life. Why would you fo that to yourself. I dont think you realize how traumatic that can be for yourself.
@emilyperkins5108
@emilyperkins5108 4 года назад
@Michelle doe I worked in a gas station and a woman once gave birth in my bathroom to an almost fully developed baby... That is an image that has stuck with me more than things I saw working in the hospital! But I get the curiosity!
@plantpants3746
@plantpants3746 3 года назад
I could never be on a murder jury. PTSD for life
@MerJaime
@MerJaime 4 года назад
The autopsy doctor was very smart, affirming, and tactical. Very inspiring and respectable.
@Jesus_H._Christ6598
@Jesus_H._Christ6598 3 года назад
The wife's attorney is grounded and has the good sense to ask the medical examiner as few questions as possible. The husband's attorney is living, working and functioning in fantasy land.
@donnydarko6042
@donnydarko6042 Год назад
It's amazing to watch someone grasp so desperately at straws.
@kareygodwin2329
@kareygodwin2329 2 года назад
I will never understand how a mother and father can do this. They didn’t want him!!! The foster mom was perfect for him.
@KL92105
@KL92105 Год назад
Yea!!! I agree, they didn’t want him, but I read somewhere that they wanted government assistance so that’s why they demanded him back! Greedy evil monsters!
@seangentilechildsupport8858
@seangentilechildsupport8858 4 года назад
Dr Brown is a gorgeous woman and highly educated.
@MelEveritt
@MelEveritt 4 года назад
She oozes class, style and intelligence. She makes the world a better place and her professionalism is highly commendable.
@TheMightyBlackPearl
@TheMightyBlackPearl 4 года назад
Shes very classy. I feel for this woman having to sit here in court describing what happened to this sweet, baby boy. The whole case is just sad. I'm glad this woman is defending Dylan and calling him by name. He was a person. He deserves the dignity and personage that his so called "parents" denied him. God rest his beautiful soul ♡
@marcietanz3154
@marcietanz3154 3 года назад
@@TheMightyBlackPearl very well said!!
@ql688
@ql688 3 года назад
she really is
@daisymae4958
@daisymae4958 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. I love her hair too! Absolutely beautiful.
@gretchenhughes6256
@gretchenhughes6256 4 года назад
Medical examiner very professional and well educated. Very good at what she does.
@kqualls76
@kqualls76 2 года назад
It's crazy how the parents crying and hiding their faces when they are the ones that put that poor baby in those crates!!!!! 😥
@christinavaughn8383
@christinavaughn8383 9 месяцев назад
I feel like the tears are for the punishment they are going to get. Not for the baby.
@thegardener7721
@thegardener7721 3 года назад
This child suffered unfathomable pain...
@tesslawv693
@tesslawv693 4 года назад
Bwaaahahaa the good Dr. is cracking me up with the dirty looks she keeps throwing at the defense table! Then "blows" her nose as if to say, did you hear THAT 😂😂😂 Rock on Doc, you deserve it after this one!!! Tough case, Bless you 💞✌🏼
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
I am amazed and have deep respect for her that she is managing to remain professional during all of this but it is clear she is reliving doing the autopsy and how she felt then.
@AwesomeMom1234
@AwesomeMom1234 4 года назад
I wouldn't last a fraction of a second doing this woman's job.🤢
@unicornhart3723
@unicornhart3723 4 года назад
I am glad thay have too sit through all this. Thay should be made too look every photo.
@potdragon8091
@potdragon8091 4 года назад
"To".... ignoramus.🙄
@spiritpath6177
@spiritpath6177 4 года назад
Yep..her testimony is she 'cant remember'...then show her photos ..jar her memory
@RainHavok1111
@RainHavok1111 4 года назад
They* no such word as "thay"
@noneofyourbusiness302
@noneofyourbusiness302 3 года назад
Rude people 😒 stop correcting other's grammar! 😤 😒
@stephaniemomma
@stephaniemomma 3 года назад
@@noneofyourbusiness302 agreed. It doesn’t really matter unless it’s causing a misunderstanding. In this case, it was perfectly clear what the OP meant in her comment
@wrmlm37
@wrmlm37 2 года назад
The pain had to have been immense for this little guy. I cannot BELIEVE how he suffered. Horrendous defendants...these were "people" at one time. WTF happened?
@carolinebrennan3864
@carolinebrennan3864 3 года назад
She resembles the cowardly lion on the wizard of Oz. And I'm glad the Doctor was so thorough and descriptive, as to make those demons have to sit there while everyone glared at them in disbelief and disgust, knowing the world would know what they did to a helpless innocent baby. Man, this makes me sooo angry.
@katefulmer8595
@katefulmer8595 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing! 🤣
@user-nv3hp4rg4b
@user-nv3hp4rg4b 2 года назад
Omg she does!!! Ohhh god what an insult to the lion.
@vassikotsis-horn874
@vassikotsis-horn874 4 года назад
He’s just covering his mouth so no one sees what he is saying to her. Luckily prisoners don’t like baby killers.
@robin5023
@robin5023 4 года назад
The only thing is, I don't think this POS is shredding a single tear.
@novascotiaskater1868
@novascotiaskater1868 4 года назад
Amanda Rios they are long past withdrawals....they have been in jail since May. They would have gone through withdrawals when they were first arrested So, no withdrawals would be going on at this point. He just thinks he looks like he is being emotional to the jury....
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
@@amandarios448 CPS did remove the child after birth then they returned Baby Dylan to his father. She said it is their goal to reunited families!!! Well, they reunited this one long enough for a precious baby to be murdered.
@ilovejclove7516
@ilovejclove7516 4 года назад
It was not deliberate the mother is clearly broken .
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
@@ilovejclove7516 But is she broken because Baby Dylan is dead or because she is facing life in prison? She had to know she would not walk away from this. Think about how it could not be deliberate but an accident as she claimed when the injuries were multiple incidents. Most of those injuries even suggest he was thrown or slammed against something. Two skull injuries, at two different times, clearly shows there was not good care for him and would not have happened simply from being dropped "accidentally." That is aside from all the bone fractures. Even the most careless of people would not have that many "accidents" in less than two months!
@dkelley939
@dkelley939 4 года назад
Put your GD heads up & look at what you did to that poor innocent baby!!!!!!
@onefarwanderer
@onefarwanderer 3 года назад
Amazing that the ME doesn't refer to her notes. She remembers it all.
@Kyra_of_Kerkyra
@Kyra_of_Kerkyra 3 года назад
She did her due diligence and reviewed her report prior to the testimony
@alexiss680
@alexiss680 2 года назад
How could the ME ever forget such a poor little helpless angel! RIP lil man! Thanks Dr.
@Blissfullyunaware13
@Blissfullyunaware13 3 года назад
Such a horrible case but absolutely fascinating listening how the medical examiners go about their jobs with such respect. Such well spoken women, both the examiner and the prosecutor.
@alehramm263
@alehramm263 4 года назад
So if it was an accident she “accidentally” dropped him more than once and never took him to the hospital????
@cortney3798
@cortney3798 3 года назад
She admitted to murdering the baby. Wym am accident? I haven’t gotten that far
@mariawigent9773
@mariawigent9773 3 года назад
She didn't drop him. She would have done something with blut force trauma. Kids bones are more pliable when their babies and young children. Just saying
@minderz_4952
@minderz_4952 3 года назад
Good point. The thing that was pointed out to me also, that if she didn’t remember what she did but she does “remember” dropping him....🤔 Makes no sense.
@melissak8419
@melissak8419 3 года назад
almost like she got mad, irritated, because he wouldn't stop crying, grabbed him by the arm and flung him against the wall or something. Poor little baby never had a chance. Meth turns people into monsters and demons. Lived nearby the area this happened for two years of my life, over 20 years ago, as my in laws were originally from that area, and they moved back after military retirement because its cheaper to live there. The area is pretty, but heavily hit by the opioid crisis, and also heavy meth use has caused a lot of deterioration in the area. Also the Piketon/ Rhoden family murder case nearby that area. So sad.
@RainbowStarGumDrop
@RainbowStarGumDrop 2 года назад
Accidentally starved him too....
@MsHburnett
@MsHburnett 4 года назад
Should take the jury about 2 minutes of deliberations
@geoffpoole483
@geoffpoole483 3 года назад
A couple of minutes of deliberations then relax for a few hours to make it look like they spent hours looking at the evidence.
@cortney3798
@cortney3798 3 года назад
Cuz heaven forbid they actually spend time looking at the evidence. Just pretend to and go on gut emotion
@dra2521
@dra2521 3 года назад
@@cortney3798 this is not the kind of case where there's uncertainties in the evidence already provided in court. Like Daniel said himself, "if they find the body, we're f*cked". And he was absolutely right. Time should still be spent reviewing everything of course, but not a single juror would have any doubt about their guilt.
@cortney3798
@cortney3798 2 года назад
@@dra2521 my comment was for the guy up thread that said relax for a few hours and pretend to look at the evidence 💁🏼‍♀️
@michellebrodeur3880
@michellebrodeur3880 2 года назад
took OJ less then 2 hours
@GoodnightJLH
@GoodnightJLH 2 года назад
Dr. Brown is amazing. I’m sure it’s so very hard to maintain composure but her ability to do so was key in getting justice for Baby Dylan.
@faithhopeh
@faithhopeh 3 года назад
This medical examiner is amazing. I would not be able to do this kind of work.
@joannegollsneider6349
@joannegollsneider6349 4 года назад
Baby Dylan was 4 months old and only weighed 41/2 lbs? That's insane.
@joannam.4294
@joannam.4294 3 года назад
4 1/2 pounds and 20.5 inches. If he had been born that small, they would have kept him in the NICU. He was starved and obviously failed to grow. Unthinkable.
@laurafedora5385
@laurafedora5385 3 года назад
They said the body loses weight as it decomposes though. I’m not sure how much. Either way, absolutely horrific and to think there were old injuries... The poor defence lawyer was really doing some mental gymnastics though. “So, other than the multiple fractures, the bruising (the drugs in his system?), he was well nourished?” Oh yeah, perfect picture of health!
@judytullos9889
@judytullos9889 3 года назад
@@laurafedora5385 Decomposition would not change his length.
@_kimiadventures
@_kimiadventures 3 года назад
My son weighted that at birth
@denisekozimor5559
@denisekozimor5559 3 года назад
Mysonweighed5 10at birth that was preemie small!! How disgusting
@sarahdrenth1540
@sarahdrenth1540 4 года назад
The lengths they went to to conceal this poor little baby's body is unbelievable!!! It would have taken them hours!! He needs to be thoroughly punished for his role, it's a horrendous level of disregard for the body of his own baby. She was on drugs (still inexcusable), he has no excuse at all. It's worse than what many serial killers have done, worse than many many killers on death row have done. I'm struggling big time with this trial. I'm so utterly enraged and sickened and also so terribly sad for what baby Dylan went through all of his short life. I have no idea how the jurors are coping.
@wendymathews1030
@wendymathews1030 4 года назад
Sarah Drenth I agree; I’ve been thinking about what the jurors were going through. This would be a terrible case to get over.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 года назад
Sarah Drenth all they did was preserve little Dylan for the M.E to examine. Dylan was wrapped so well, the bacteria was suffocating, and wasn’t able to decompose his body like it would if he was left unwrapped. It’s the only thing they ever did for him.
@roxannelovesvenussmokecity
@roxannelovesvenussmokecity 3 года назад
She, the Medical Examiner, is to Ohio what Dr G is to Florida...AMAZING
@nikkiarmstrong3991
@nikkiarmstrong3991 4 года назад
I feel sorry for the attorney representing these monsters his facial expression is like I cant believe I'm doing this
@margaretcooper797
@margaretcooper797 4 года назад
Dr Brown is very thorough and matter of fact though ,it would have been traumatic for her to perform the autopsy on this poor little boy.
@AirQuotes848
@AirQuotes848 4 года назад
So many layers of plastic and duct tape. They knew what they were doing.
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 4 года назад
L.DOT.M. They didn’t. What they effectively did was preserve little Dylan by suffocating most of the bacteria, meaning he was fairly intact for autopsy, and less decomposed than if he was left unwrapped. It’s the only favour they did for him in his short life....by mistake.
@marinamartinez6886
@marinamartinez6886 3 года назад
Exactly. Plus the layers were different materials.
@AirQuotes848
@AirQuotes848 3 года назад
@Gail Cox Agree
@jane3823
@jane3823 3 года назад
They clearly did know what they where doing , she stated that she was drugged up so didn’t recall much or even knew much of she was doing but if that was the case she wouldn’t be able to possibly wrap that baby with so much plastic and let alone get crates and or other things she used to put the baby and hold it together, that just isn’t something that someone at that extend of intoxication could think of or do .
@ashleywright8686
@ashleywright8686 3 года назад
I do NOT understand how lawyers can defend such monsters. I’ll NEVER comprehend it.
@donnydarko6042
@donnydarko6042 Год назад
It would be a very dark system if we outright denied them their time in court before they were determined guilty. I get it though. Think about it all the time.
@ashleywright8686
@ashleywright8686 Год назад
@@donnydarko6042 yes, of course. My feeling abt it is more of “how could they?”
@lisemartino1995
@lisemartino1995 Год назад
These injuries must have been excruciating. It’s clear that she is finding it hard to conceal her utter disgust at what she saw, even describing the sickening way in which this poor tiny baby was disposed of. As a medical examiner, she has undoubtedly learned to try and separate herself from what she sees every day, but you can see even she is struggling.
@iwantthe80sback59
@iwantthe80sback59 Год назад
I had 3 broken ribs (#8, 9 and 10). It was agonizing and I’m not exaggerating. God forbid I cough or sneeze. But I’m an adult and understood why the pain and I took Pain relievers. Baby Dylan had neither plus a lot more than 3 broken bones plus his crying would exacerbate the pain. RIP Angel.
@normathomas8609
@normathomas8609 4 года назад
Thank you law and crime I pray baby Dylan gets justice🧸🎈😔❤️💜💖🙏🏼
@suziefavaro3730
@suziefavaro3730 4 года назад
Amen 🙏🏼
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
@SarahsSimple& StylishMakeup - She did not defend them in any way. She is pointing out there is no justice for Baby Dylan because he is dead and can have no justice. Justice for the deceased victim does not exist. However, justice for his murderers should be complete and total.
@maryq4546
@maryq4546 4 года назад
Theyre crying because they know theyre going to prison! I hope they get what they deserve! Prisoners dont take kindly to baby killers!
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 4 года назад
@Sara Allison Sadly truth.
@theresenorway
@theresenorway 4 года назад
Maybe they also regret... I really think they would for the rest of their miserable lives,but they should have thought about it before! Nobrainers! Drugies!
@Isabella-nh5dm
@Isabella-nh5dm 3 года назад
I never saw tears. I saw a lot of tissues and wiping motions but not one tear from either parent.
@aloebadman
@aloebadman 3 года назад
@@Isabella-nh5dm seriously compared to the foster mother’s tissue during her testimony her tissue was soaked and falling apart
@sandralopez8807
@sandralopez8807 3 года назад
If you actually look, they are NOT CRYING at all!!! No tears. During the sentencing, they are not even FAKE crying. Moot point at this point in the case!
@nikolegal8761
@nikolegal8761 3 года назад
How can someone treat a helpless baby like this she was beating up her little boy how sad I can't imagine what Dylan went through 😢😢
@lyndapierson6338
@lyndapierson6338 3 года назад
omg, the pain that poor little infant must have endured is unimaginable!
@texasmamaw6555
@texasmamaw6555 3 года назад
Just started watching these testimonies. That father was well aware. How do you change a baby clothes and not notice his arm would dangle and baby screaming in pain. He was just as much at fault. Poor Angel.
@daleversfelt
@daleversfelt 4 года назад
The horror that these monsters inflicted on a poor defenseless baby screams for the maximum societal retribution that can be imposed!
@cosmicsquirrel7642
@cosmicsquirrel7642 3 года назад
Absolutely.
@loribeth3238
@loribeth3238 2 года назад
If u can do all that to a baby, u do not care, not one ounce about that baby…. I can’t understand why she’s even pretending to cry, like wtf
@wren4413
@wren4413 4 года назад
I just had a baby last Wednesday and this testimony is making me nauseous. I don't know how anyone could be so cruel. I can't imagine harming one hair on my son's head, let alone doing half of what these despicable MONSTERS did to innocent baby Dylan.
@starrynight2600
@starrynight2600 2 года назад
Congratulations 💖
@pattizapf4135
@pattizapf4135 Год назад
Kudos to the Foster Mom. The only love that precious child knew in his short life was from her!
@5maz
@5maz 3 года назад
The Medical Examiner is a thorough professional, she also has alot of humanity in her.
@goose7574
@goose7574 4 года назад
This female Prosecutor was incredible! And the Forensic Pathologist did an amazing job of explaining everything in great detail.
@alexisr5199
@alexisr5199 4 года назад
THESE PEOPLE ARE MONSTERS. PURE EVIL.
@plantpants3746
@plantpants3746 3 года назад
Thank you to all medical examiners! Can't imagine what she saw...
@benitasmith2840
@benitasmith2840 2 года назад
God I hate it when Christine says "at some point in time that pain would start to subside." She uses this phrase throughout the trial when speaking of Dylan's wounds. To me she's dismissing the agony Dylan went thru. Does defending Daniel make her lose her empathy and sympathy for a 2 month old baby? Those 4 people at the defense table are all about minimizing the pain Dylan suffered. I'm not sure I would want to lose my humanity to defend someone who's obviously guilty of horrendous acts like these two.
@masonsjourneylivingwithacc7029
@masonsjourneylivingwithacc7029 4 года назад
Hate how that thing has her head down pretending to cry. She should be made to look at what she did to that poor baby boy.
@Olivia-cw8qn
@Olivia-cw8qn 4 года назад
I agree 100%. Make her look at the photos.
@LuvLight13
@LuvLight13 4 года назад
Agreed 100%!!! They are cowards!!!!! She should NOT BE ABLE to HIDE IN HER HANDS!!!! What a coward.
@katiehenry988
@katiehenry988 4 года назад
The defense lawyers trying to pick apart the med examiner’s testimony means nothing. That poor child was injured and put into that well never to be found again. Idk why these two didn’t just plead out to to the horrific treatment and ultimate death of poor Dylan.
@castishe40
@castishe40 3 года назад
While the doctor is explaining this baby's broken bones, bruises, and skin lacerations someone needs to standing right there beside those demons; inflicting exactly what this angel endured.
@justice2255
@justice2255 Год назад
How can this judge go on without a microphone and every single witness is told multiple times to speak up.
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