lovely, thanks for sort of walking through some intro level things. That's the sort of thing I need as a novice Ebb and Flow grower. You've def helped me solidify my decision to go this route in my next grow room set up. Cheers from Buffalo!
Hello this is an awesome setup. thank you. I intend to use the Octopot's 10 plant setup with autofill. Each plant base would be 6 gallons. They would connect to a 3 gallon control reservoir that I'd connect to a 55 gallon drum. So the water would flow in this order: 55 gallon drum -> 3 gallon reservoir with float valve -> 10x 6 gallon plant base. Do I run the nutrients to the 55 gallon drum or to the 3 gallon control reservoir?
I'm glad you find the content helpful. If you haven't purchased your Growee yet, here's my link so they know you came through my channel (and it supports the channel too 😁). getgrowee.com/?ref=pdxkvavt Regarding where to introduce the nutrients. You could definitely do it either way. I would personally use the 3 gallon reservoir and not the 55 gallon. The reasoning is that if you need to make a change in your nutrients you'll be adjusting less water in total. Also, if you ever need to flush your whole system, you'll have 55 gallons of fresh clean water ready to go. I hope this helps, and let me know if you had any more questions.
I just purchased mine. I want to use advanced nutrients to feed my plants. How would I go about it if they have a few things to add. For example like during veg they have an A and B for feed then week 2 start adding voodoo juice and b52. I have a 15 gallon reservoir and I guess I'm confused on how this works. Do I have to use what's already in the reservoir and nutrients added then I fill again with fresh water and the device does the rest? Can I get a little more info please and thank you.
This is a really great question. First off, this depends very much on how the nutrient system of your choice operates. Most companies will supply detailed information through their website as to when and how much to add at various growing stages. In the case of general hydroponics, you can find this on the bottle itself. If it's a system that is additive, for example, if the system uses two nutrients during veg, and then adds to more nutrients during flower, then by this example you would need two nutrient Growee pumps to push all for nutrient sources at the same time when you reach the flower stage. This way, the Growee system is already adding and monitoring your first two nutrients, and then when the switch to flower happens, in the app, you add the new levels needed for the two additional nutrients. The Growee system is monitoring your EC levels so that you don't over saturate your water with nutrients. A relatively common error for new growers is to simply add in a supplement nutrient for the flower stage. What happens is if you don't adjust the concentration of the previous nutrients you're using, you can cause nutrient lockout by having too high of an EC in your water. If it's the case that your nutrient system of choice intends for you to switch from one set of nutrients to another when you change from veg to flower, then you do need to flush out your water and do a full system change. This is partially to protect from having too high of an EC in your water, but more importantly there may be redundancies in the nutrients for veg versus the nutrients for flower. Again oversaturating any nutrient can cause lockout issues, and eventually harm your plant or potential yield. I hope this helps, if you have more questions, keep them coming. And have fun with your grow.
Can you elaborate on the flush and change procedure? I'm researching Growee and Tetraponics systems for my next grow when my current run is harvested. I have a hard time articulating my confusion here, so please bear with me. Let's say I'm transitioning from Veg week 4 to Flower week 1 and we need to flush. Say I have a Floraflex matrix setup (not that it should matter here). When you do the system flush, do you turn off the irrigation system first so the flush cycles through just the mixing/recirculating manifold? Or do you flush all the way through to the plants as well (allow the flush water to be emitted at the plants)? I've never used a system like I'm describing, but that's what I'm planning to use next grow and I'm trying to ensure I'm not missing any hidden complications or details that would show up only after implementing the system.
I should have done some more research before asking. I understand now that the irrigation loop and nutrient mixing/dosing loop are separate. I would have a reservoir with water and two pumps, a mixing pump and a fertigation pump. The mixing pump would pressurize the nutrient mixing/dosing loop where the EC and pH are adjusted (or in this case, flushed) and it would return to the reservoir. Then I'd just dump that or use a transfer pump to drain it to waste. At least, this is how I think it would work.
So let me answer with an example. If I miss the mark, please let me know and I'll try answering again 🙂 I've actually stopped flushing between veg and flower. The reason being that depending on your nutrients the flower phase is typically an increase in nutrients of the same type. So you can just tell the growee to change your nutrient levels to the new, higher ones for flower and it will correct your nutrient levels to and it will correct your nutrient levels. That said, if you prefer to flush, the way I've handled it in the past is simply using my transfer pump to pump out about 80% of the volume. Then, as my system is refilling from my reservoir attached to my RODI filter, I've already given the Growee the new nutrient levels for the flower phase and it takes care of all the work for me. The one advantage I do see of flushing the system between phases is that it also removes some of the natural debris that can build up in your buckets. It's just part of the natural growth process that some of the roots are going to break off and then be decomposing. This can, in very severe cases, cause you to have a lot of extra nitrogen (from decomp) in the water, and then cause nutrient lockout. But, my instinct is that is much more towards the extreme side. Like I said, I honestly don't flush very much anymore, and I have not seen any yield issues at all. Hopefully I addressed your question correctly. If I didn't, just let me know and I'll take another stab at it. Grow on, and have lots of fun!
I'm really glad you find this helpful. Yes, starting with just the monitor is a great way to go. Being able to immediately track your pH and EC makes a huge difference. Happy growing man!!
Appreciate it. I’m setting my loop up now. My pump is a little bigger it’s a 1/6hp lanchez submersible, and i used your idea with looping the smaller 1/4” tubing connectors down under the ph/ec/temp Probes. You just keep the pump running through that going all the time? I have my feeding pumps for drip irrigation on timers so they go on automatically, but I’m thinking bout having this pump running 24/7 that supplies the manifold with water for reading and adjustment of ph. I’ll get the nitrogen ones eventually but I’m starting with ph control first. Any thoughts or advice based on any of that info?
@kayladonnelly6602 you've got it. You want to keep the pump that feeds the manifold running for 2 reasons. 1) the pH probe must stay wet or it will dry out and fail on you. 2) even with just the pH pumps the system will be making little adjustments all the time and you always want that circulating so the changes are nice and gradual. Big changes (nutes or pH) can be really harmful to your plants. Gradual and consistent is the key. Have an awesome time growing man!
I figured. That makes sense i just wanted to make sure i wasn’t being a dummy haha. I have it running without the manifold set up but i just hate how unorganized it is and i like the idea of cleanliness in all aspects of growing haha. Thanks man i appreciate the videos they have helped me immensely.
Quick question - where did you get the probe fittings? I got mine and must have gotten the wrong ones, because the manifold is leaking through them. I’ve looked for them online but cannot find them where you can just get 2, these sites want me to spend $250 or more to get them. I’m not sure what to get now …totally lost on that. My set up looks much like yours but i need to find those probe fittings. Thanks in advance !!!
You should totally skip around to the parts you find useful. There are a number of ways to assemble a manifold and there are so many potential parts, it can be daunting. This video is a complete walkthrough, so yes, there's plenty of talking so people can take as much it, it as little as they need/want. Thanks for checking it out!
Thnx for all the info. I am just about to order my first start growee kit but replies are so slow and short like uninterested, im checking where are they from and how safe it is to pay with my credit card on their website. Also afraid what when i need help or something not working, will they still reply so short without any real info or as customer there is better help..I would like to support you over your link to order that first order if i dont lose my discount that way. can we connect over email or somewhere and just confirm if link to buy over you is still the same and in use. regards from Croatia !
I believe their home offices are in Israel. 100% safe to order with your credit card, that's how I bought my first system. The crew over there have been exceptionally busy, and it is a very small company run by a couple of very passionate people. They are working on speeding up interactions, but sometimes it's faster to get a hold of them on social media DMs, than necessarily through the traditional email route.
Don't forget to sign up for their newsletter, I'm pretty sure that still gets you about 5% off. Every little bit helps 🙂 and if you're so inclined to use the link in my video descriptions, I'll get a little kick back to help keep the channel running. But no pressure to do so, it's just something I appreciate.
@@PlantItAll thnx for fast reply friend, this helps a lot since you never know this days.. yes i would like to buy over your link its same for me but helps you so dont see why not since you are soo helpfull. i have 2000 L water tank but can keep it on 500 gallon as they say with floating device auto top up. but i must have inside of tank ph and ec probe, is that ok or do i must do like you on those small thin water pipes with connectors ? thnx and regards from Croatia
@igorjovicic8903 thank you, that's very kind of you. 🙏 Regarding your tank question. It's not ideal, but will work. Just be certain that you have a pump constantly circulating the water. Otherwise, you can end up with inaccurate readings because the water may not be 100% mixed with your additives. Noting fancy is needed for the pump. The little one in my videos would totally do the job The idea behind the manifold loop is that the water is constantly flowing by and being stirred. That way you have a highly accurate reading, and anything being added to the water to adjusted is automatically stirred in with everything else. You could always get set up just with your tank, and down the road, add a manifold loop. Let me know how your build goes, and of course if you have questions shoot me a message.
