Growing Japanese Black Pine From Seed for Bonsai cutting seedling cuttings again May 2021 

I'm trying to see how small i can get the space in between the root spread and the first bud that will start to extend from the trunk that could end up being the first branch of my tree. the part of the stem with the roots connected that i cut off will not grow a new bud like deciduous species. the part of the stem with the needles above it will push out new roots that will be even closer to the first set of needles than where the roots are coming out at before i cut them off. we will compare the two later.

@@DarthMasiah so its kinda like air layering a lanky deciduous bonsai?

some good visual examples in this post as to the why www.bonsainut.com/threads/black-pine-seedling-cuttings.24555/post-382938

For science!

any pop up?

@@DarthMasiah not a single one lol

@@OldIronShops it happens 😊 it's possible they could come up next spring after going through a cold season.

@@DarthMasiah yeah that is my plan

I'm really loving growing from seed.

it seems to have worked. one's noticeably growing again and the other two look healthy.

everyone loses some when trying the seedling cuttings. after i cut the seedling and put it in the substrate, i water it real good and usually i don't water again until i see the middle needles start to elongate. i stick my cuttings in a see through tote from walmart with the top on for awhile. the humidity will build up big time and you just check it every so often and if you don't see water beads and or the soil top looks very dry, just give them a good misting. they don't need direct sunlight until they've started growing strong again. here's what i did: www.bonsainut.com/threads/jbp-from-seed-for-the-1st-time-the-force-is-not-strong-in-this-one.40009/post-863722 i can't remember what website i ordered those tree seedling starter cylinder pots from. there were a lot of different sellers.

If you cut it, the root spread will be closer to the first adventitious buds that come out of the trunk, making small bonsai easier to develop. If you don't cut, it will grow strong and tall and the distance between the root spread and the first buds will be long, so to develop a small bonsai you'll then have to do a lot of bending to make it shorter. If you're trying to grow a large bonsai, over 12" maybe, you don't need to worry about seedling cutting. This is more a optional technique for people growing mame and shohin size pines.

@@DarthMasiah Thank you very much sir for the explanation. I hope your day is always pleasant and you are always happy.

@@bangkoricanal9296 🖖

hey 👋. aleppo pine is from the Mediterranean area, so they like lots of sun during the growing season. you could try bringing it outside a little at a time at first to get it acclimated to the stronger weather, until eventually leaving it outside. I'm in a agricultural zone 8a, so my pines stay outside year round, no problem. year 1 you only have to worry about keeping it alive.

Hey thanks for the reply. how long would you say for the sun for when it's outside as its been indoors and should I use a dome too. And do I use a fertilizer in the 1st year. Iam Glad I found your channel took some digging lol but I got there.

you could start at an hour and slowly increase over a months time if you want to be super careful. i start feeding when the seedlings first start pushing growth.

@@DarthMasiah watching your videos like there a series right now lol thank you fornthe great tips too and help. 🙌

I'm using this premixed inorganic substrate at the moment. www.bonsaijack.com/shop/premixed-bonsai-soil/universal-bonsai-soil/2-quarts-inorganic-bonsai-soil-mix/

bonsai soil and sand on top. out of 200 seeds i tried popping this spring, barely a 100 came up, and less than 50 made it through cuttings. you never know if the seeds are too old or duds. don't blame yourself all the way 😊 www.bonsaijack.com/shop/premixed-bonsai-soil/universal-bonsai-soil/2-quarts-inorganic-bonsai-soil-mix/ www.ebay.com/itm/141962734418

@@DarthMasiah 🙏🏽 much appreciated buddy, seems to be a do, an learn sort of game. Cheers for the reply and links.

@@MrBabysumo I'm 0-50 over the last 2 years trying to pop trident maple seeds. i must have got a bad batch.

@@DarthMasiah never had much success from seed myself, with maples. Im doing cuttings, airlayers etc in that department.