Growing Pains: A History of esports' worst, most infamous and game changing scandals 

yeah, but today he is a MVP from ELS ONE

HeyTherePeoplez yup..that's why when there is someone trying to throw a game it will be called 322

Even they win, there is nothing that will change in the course of their tournament run.

It became a meme

Allegedly throw, I kinda believe that he bet against his own team just for lulz.

Yeah, I was thinking they were gonna mention it.

good

The details of that attempted suicide are gruesome

It's not gruesome at all, just multiple fractures.

Shal ucard not at all,that's everywhere

It was a team building exercise! Perseverance - strength - umm... taking turns?

Kawlinz 5v5 game with 2 computer to practice nice lol

Matheus Tayr gaming paradise...

"Go play outside"

Lowkey Esports didn't pay any of their teams and management somewhat recently too.

I tried to add a little bit of humor to a relatively heavy piece. Glad I got someone to laugh! ♥ - Paul

I really appreciate that they feel like inside jokes. The only people that would actually find humour in the out of context casting are fans who are familiar with where it was originally from. Well done.

theScore esports there’s never any news about rainbow Six Siege

Well now you heard it

Came here to post this. I never heard about it until just now when I specifically went looking for stuff like this.

What team? O.o This sounds harsh

ahq korea and it was the marksman known as promise it was a big deal at the time all the pros on twitch donated a good portion of their donations to promise

snacc*

lmao

Kim Undal there are quite a few more scandals they missed over. Old Starcraft ones are the worst

Yeah, the ahq korea scandal (Now known as Jin Air Green Wings if ya didn't know!) was probably one of the biggest in LoL history, no idea why they didn't include it.

@@IMissTheOldPantheon because lol youngsters shouldnt reflect mobas at all, like league shouldnt ever be compared to a true game like dota imagine all the shit dota players have to take from ignorant people because of league "oh I know this game many 10~16y old play this!" - no dota isnt league "oh I know this game that asian youngster attempted suicide because of it!" no dota isnt league "oh I know this game my nephews still a virgin because of it HAHA!" no dota isnt fucking league league is fucking lame get over it

@@dsadasdsadsa4624 imagine being angry because you dont like a game. Yikes

@@taylorswiftfan1389 angry? you are clearly projecting here and thats the reason we dont want to be compared to you league players you teenagers are way too emotional

RHG Jester who is dat

UnknownKeepo League of legends player (Korean) that threw a game to help the org owner pay back loan sharks people found out and he attempted suicide and survived

PopungDragon Dude thats not funny at all.

Perry Yenima ecksss deee

Perry Y. Shits hilarious xdxd

Not really. There have been a few scandals

Can't have scandals if you have no players :^))))

there's plenty of players

Kind of hard to have scandals when your scene is non existent.

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"Do as we say, not as we do".

another case of double standards

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Zephyrod the reason they did it that way is they agreed that no matter who won they would split the money 50/50. The video left that out

It would change the result lmao weren't you paying attention? If they dropped the game (or maybe it was win) they would get 2nd place and face other team changing the result

The problem is that they agreed to split the winnings (IE, collusion) and even worse, the outcome of the match affected the matchups/seeding of other teams. Winnings splits used to be common at local FGC tournaments as well (mostly because some players actually need to get decent prize money because they do it for a living) so it wasn't uncommon to offer a split, then play out the finals normally. Unfortunately, after several incidents where players didn't play seriously in the finals after agreeing to a split most tournament organizers started banning and penalizing players who offered winnings splits as collusion.

like there no difference in luck if it female or male in that game

Its also liked by old, young, or disabled since there isnt any hard action.

Why chess of all games?

It's a physical sport women just can't compete

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so well* jk I just wanna know how they do it.

AERIN PE'PE he got out off prison and playing baseball now

Chrioni Sta Ana still a huge loss. Considering the fact that he actually was an gigantic player and actually was far ahead of his time, it's even sadder that he had chose that way...

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still waiting for first female player on dota 2 or any pro game league

icestick3 Same! Now with league being just gigantic I think we will see it soon

Ben G nah not irrelevant,you're trash if you do that

Ben G it isnt really irrelavent since hes good, infact its actually worse. He would have such high odds to win in some many cases that if his match fixing wasnt punished, he would just be able to throw huge games for profit just making the whole scene a joke

Such talent wasted he should just be banned 1 year max or less

Well cry no more, we have Serral now! I really hope Serral doesn't get involved in matchfixing...

that's hardly a scandal tho

The macros were actually not doing anything i dont think. Who tf would use the 4 key 1000 times?

@@nope-xe2lx don't speak when you don't know shit about the macro

Well, Rainbow Six is nowhere near as big as those 3.

what happened? i barely knew the team but never heard anything about the scandal

interstellartravel but thats not the problem the problem was that they decided they would split the money 50/50 no matter who wins

Kourosh Adli I mean even then they still played the match and both tried to win. Iirc splitting prize pools isn't actually that uncommon since a lot of pro players literally depend on the sport for there livelihoods. I would guess the only way that the thing they wanted to do was if they agreed in advance. At the end of the day as long as the audience enjoyed it and the players did it voluntarily I don't see a big problem with what happened.

Bill Stickers agreed

You will need speed and hand to eye coordination combined with logical thinking in esports.

Females in high elo of many esports cannot compete with the level that men play at. I am not an expert on the subject but in league of legends i don't believe that there is a single woman in challenger. It doesn't mean that they aren't good enough, but they definitely have a lack of competition (especially when you see the top streamers that are female on league barely being in plat/diamond and a few of them being gold and below)

Bill Stickers look up chess

DevILX7 DevILX7 Actually there are many females in challenger, for example 여최미, korean female midlaner. They just dont reveal their genders, because why would they when most of the reactions would be negative? You also have to think about the toxicity towards female players in league of legends, which is why they do not play league in general, added on to the already salty rift. I think it is not because of genetics (in terms of skill) , but rather because of the negativity and how there is a bigger male playerbase than female. Also, I think that males tend to be more competitive, due to their nature, which could be a factor of why there is more male players on the rift.

you just know the concept not know the game, buddy

-1 subscriber challenge without any video ummm im a dota2 player too.. But umm.. Isnt dota more complex ? Like the creep agro.. Combos.. Timings and overall gameplay? Well just my thought.. No offence

Sumiran Pradhan the tf the same is in league lmao you're talking about HOTS right?

Sir Taco Master i mean.. The.. When u right click the hero.. The enemy creeps charge you ...(maybe in order to save their hero 😃) and well we can use it for our benefits.. So when the lane is going to be pushed due to a double wave.. Or a single wave with double ranged creep....we can set the timing right and click on the enemy.. So that the enemy creeps aggro towards u.. And as u move back.. They start hitting our ranged creep( to be noted that the damage of the ranged creeps is more than the melee creeps, but the armour and hp are less, so when u kill the ranged.. The lane gets pushed towards your side) and that is the aggro.. But that also helps in you denying the ranged creep so that the enemy doesnot get the max of the xp and no gold.. Well that is atleast the basics... And idk if LoL has it.. But well... Was gonna try it after my exams... But... The fact that we gotta buy the champions is.. Uk a more like " Pay to win" situation.. Which i think cuts out the point of having fun, and i hear some of the players of the community are just as toxic as in dota2....😁..so will try it out sometime...

Sumiran Pradhan sorry to say buddy league has the same exact thing. You hit a champ with an auto or skillshot the creeps aggro to you. & You can get all the champs for free if you grind out (I admit it takes a very long time to grind out enough for all the champs.) And every game that's not marketed towards toddlers have a bit of toxicity.... But if you are triggered easily I recommend you hit /mute all lmao

SKT didn't even win their region dude. Longzhu is favored to win this year.

Clayton Grubbs let's see about that this year 😂😂

Meh.. we all know SKT is best when it comes to World's....

Clayton Grubbs no lol, even tho longzhu won, skt is still favorites.

Clayton Grubbs Did you forget spring ? That was LCK as well

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Stringbean670 Yeah,Csgo was released in 2012.The ibp scandal happened late 2014

lazymage99 what? No they didnt...

Zephyr 510x ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xbIxqr8nnrI.html

CubKulAid how is that splitting? They didn't even count the first match and picked the mains right after. There actual friends who play each other a lot and were just trying to have fun. Grow up!!

This wasn't uncommon years ago in the FGC because before a lot of sponsors started picking up players a lot of the pros literally needed to get winnings as their job. So it wasn't uncommon back then for players who made it to grand finals (especially pros who had been there before a lot) to split winnings so they had a steady income whether they won or lost. It was something that could be considered shady but was allowed because of the monetary necessity at the time. However, after a few scandals of other players (not so much well-known pros) not playing seriously in finals after agreeing to a split, most TOs regard splits as collusion and heavily punish it. Just one of those rules that had to be made after people abused the system.

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I don't think physical advantages hold much (if any) advantages in the eSports scene. I think it's pretty inherent with low female population counts and the fact that female gamers tend to play more casually than male players (likely due to societal norms). Of the girl gamers that I have actually played with competitively, I've never noticed a solid difference between their performance and the performances of the guys. I played on a D1/Masters team in Smite and the girls in that clan could go head-to-head with the guys, with two of the girls actually getting picked for the main roster but turning it down to pursue college. I grinded that game for 4000+ hours after already being skilled with PC games, and they could certainly pose a threat to my roster spot. Other games show a similar trend to what I saw in Smite, with very few girls seriously competing but with many of them still reaching the top levels of the game (examples include Geguri and Barcode_ow in Overwatch for instance).

You say "societal norms" as though it's a hurdle women have to deal with because of the "patriarchy" but if something so small holds you back from having fun or from what you are most passionate about then it just shows a very fragile resolve which would never be enough to stop a serious male. These guys know of the gamer stigma and how they most likely aren't going to get laid playing video games all day, but that doesn't stop them. I bet girls can get good enough to beat most guys, but to compete against guys who take this seriously, nah. Here is a video that perfectly illustrates my point about reflexes. Whenever you see mixed sex doubles tennis it always ends up the same way with the females simply not being able to handle male serves. Even Serena Williams in interviews admits she can't deal with it and you might argue that strength is a factor but a lot of times girls can't even react fast enough to reach the ball. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HLNIbgt6gJc.html

By the way just to be clear, some people assume this sort of topic is brought up to put down women, but that's not the point. Underdog wins and surprise upsets are the best kind of stories so I would love to see a girl win it all. At the same time I can't help but feel the need to face the reality of how unlikely that is, and unfortunately there will always be politically correct sjws calling anyone sexist for noticing this trend and proposing solutions like separate sex leagues. The girl you mentioned who gave up to pursue college did the smart thing because statistically she is much more likely to be successful and happier down that path. The real question is not how come women can't be dedicated enough to reach higher levels of play, but why is it that there are men insane enough to dedicate themselves to tasks to such an extreme degree without any guarantee of success?

It is ridiculous to use yourself as an example for chess. go look at the professional rankings for chess. Despite there being plenty of professional, amazing female chess players, the top players are all male. Historically, and in the modern day. Don't get me started on the 'more men play, more men earn more etc.' considering the huge amounts of sponsorship going to women in chess right now to 'make it equal' between the genders, and yet still, the top players are all male. Besides, you may not realise it, but playing esports requires continual use of fast-twitch muscles. There isn't a huge difference between male and female esports athletes though, but that is only in the averages. At the extremes (which is where you need to be for professional players), these tiny differences mean a lot.

Its not about whos best right now, women are "worse" at sports because of the history of exclusion. Smaller muscles = history of males doing the physical work and making the females stay inside and tend to the home, Drive to win is all due to what we tell our kids when they are little. There is different differences between males and females when it comes to sports, but its due to a long and evil history of exclusion. Continuing that exclusion is just gonna make it worse. I don't understand why people look at the differences and say "oh since on average men are better then women, we better only let men play, that will fix it" instead of letting those with the skills play. if we want the differences to go away then you have to let everyone play and eventually it will all balance out. Also your statement about averages makes no sense, because as you said the pros are on the extremes. Just because the average male should be better at a game then a average male doesn't mean that top 100 players will follow that same rule. They are pros for a reason, and their skills are not defined by averages, meaning that a top females players could easily out think or skill a male competitor at her level. And finally i think your comment about muscles in for twitch shooting is insane. It takes a tiny amount of force to move a mouse or press a button and besides that amount of force its all in the aiming, neither of these things give males a natural advantage>

Holy crap, I can't believe you could believe that. "Smaller muscles = history of males doing the physical work and making the females stay inside" You mean Olympic female athletes who spend their entire lives training have smaller muscles because historically men didn't let womenplay? You mean, you seriously believe that? That someone's muscles today are smaller because of how their race/gender was treated historically. You don't think it has anything to do with testosterone? Perhaps you need to learn some biology. What about lions. Male lions easily overpower female lions even though female lions do most of the hunting and work while the males sleep and eat. Maybe you have magical explanations for that. Or that fact that in pretty much all mammals, the males are bigger and stronger than the females. And what do muscles have to do with chess? Did you read my comment: "Despite there being plenty of professional, amazing female chess players, the top players are all male." And you say :"oh since on average men are better then women, we better only let men play" but we aren't talking about averages here. Men form the outliers of society. They are the poorest (most homeless are male) and they are the richest (richest people in the world are all male). Men are the dumbest (most prisoners are male) and the smartest (most scientists, doctors, engineers are male). When we watch a sport, we only want to see the best players. No one cares about the b team. There was an all female lol team (the sirens I believe) and they had huge sponsorship deals and money at the time (since it was considered a huge opportunity to draw more girls into the sport and increase viewership). They got utterly destroyed by the other teams.

You should do some research before you talk about lions. While it is true that males are over all stronger in straight up fights, the females are faster and quicker because they do the hunting while males handle the land disputes and the "fighting". WOW would you look at that, the thing you do a lot through history decides how your body and mind evolves. When it comes to chess, there is still a huge difference in the number of men who play chess and the number of women who play chess, as it is with all of the examples you listed. More people = greater chance to hit the jack pot and find the next Tom Brady of chess or esports. Ever wonder why the bigger schools have better sports teams? Its because they have more people to draw from and that allows them to have an advantage in finding better players. Please note that this only works with public schools as private school can use money to recruit. As for your interesting thoughts on how men are the best and the worst, I think that all goes back to how we raise people. If men are always told that they have to be the best, they develop that confidence to go out and take risks, take on the world and either win or lose. On the other hand women are traditionally told to shut up and sit down, to play it safe and hide in the middle, which is what they end up doing. Moving on to your last example, how you only want to watch the best, they why do you care if they are male or female? Lets say there's a player that the best ever and she happens to be female. Are you not gonna let her compete on the biggest stage just because ON AVERAGE males are better then females due to biological differences because of historical exclusion? Doesn't make sense to me. Idc about all female teams or all male teams, I just wanna watch people that are good at the game. The best female players that can compete with the best males shouldn't be held back just because of averages.

You do know that thousands of women play on solo-que, and yet none of them are rank 1? The best female teams can't compete with the best male teams. I just gave you an example - the sirens, a female LOL team. You look at the fastest sprinters in the world. The top ranking female doesn't even beat the 20th ranked male. You think men are told to be the best so they become the best? Have you seen the shitty girl-power movies hollywood is pumping out now. Apparently a girl can take on fully grown, trained men in her high heels because girl power. You think women are told to shut up and sit down? Where do you live? Rural Africa, under a dictator? You keep saying it has got to do with how we raise people. Olympic athletes start training when they are 3. They are raised athletes. Yet the females cannot compete with the males in most of the sports. You are telling me that those Olympic athletes are told to shut up and sit down? I don't care if they are male or female. I do care when they start adding women just to meet a quota, rather than selecting based on skill. The army is accepting women in now, but they get lighter entrance test. They don't have to run as far/long, they don't have to lift as much weight etc, but still they are being let in. Why? Because they are selecting women based on their gender, to fill a quota, and not based on their actual skill level. I am not talking about averages. You will find, on average, men and women are pretty similar. It is at the extremes where men seem to take over, at both ends of the spectrum. You keep saying I am selecting based on averages. Lets look at these olympic sports: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_records_in_Olympic_weightlifting - men are over 100kg in the lead over women en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres_at_the_Olympics - fastest women in the world is slower than the 19th fastest man in the world - lists biological factors between men and women as the issue en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon - fastest woman in the world is so much slower than the men, the list of male times doesn't even go low enough to meet the women's times I can go on. However, when you look at averages, the distinction isn't as noticeable. Men take over in the extremes. Otherwise, there are plenty of women that would woop my ass in any sporting event. Please try to understand what I am saying.

This is the most idiotic thing I have seen Olympics= physical activities games dont dont be that guy

Physical sport vs virtual game... See the difference.... Dont be dumb

I do see a difference but why is the percentage so much lower?

because of people like you who don't think females should get the chance to compete with males it makes competing for them harder do to the fact many think they can't do it or feel wanted in the community

player3prime women are physically weaker than men in all aspects. Biology man. Esports is not a physical sport so there should be no separation. There is no biological advantage inherent to the game

vvvortic that's why its called Esports "electronic sports"

TheOrangesEverywhere ow is dead already

right

Daniel Sepulveda its a future sport..... im sure there's one day where football matches are played using computers

>implying esports overall arent a joke

Delusional much?

What about the Sirens lul

Perry Yenima he said 'good'

This is true, and it's been naturally this way for a long time

Hexa Promos remember the sirens team? That was a total joke xD

Yeah I know but splitting them up isnt helping either they can enter the scene but everyone is equal so u never know some girl could join tsm tbh However if we split the sexs, a woman who could compete with the men are being held back true potential, sorry for sounding very sjw but thats my take on it But yeah I havwnt seen a pro girl player in lcs yet

Karma I Tyler is freed!!!

Barney Likes Kids because it didn't need to be there.

because it would make it easier for women when they dont really have a real disadvantage. and the reason for them being over all worse in esports is that less/almost no women are competitive enough to compete. so then theyd have to take women who r worse than guys who r better because of the gender even tho there is no actual disadvantage

Barney Likes Kids long story short. u cant just sperate women and men because they seem to have diff skills but rather look at the actual m abilities. in physical sport there is a diff, in esports there isnt one. and men being more competitive isnt really a disadvantage because women can still achieve the same when working hard

The thing here is that there's no clear disadvantage, compared to physical sports-- Make physique vs. Female physique.

It's sports. It's about being the best of the best. And this is e sports so no physical advantages or disadvantages or whatsoever. There's no need to separate them on a sport that involves a lot of brain

mosharch you're an idiot if you believe that it isn't

Well you must feel silly now seeing OWL's massive success

I bet you just a player who's winrate is below 10% in overwatch L O L R O F L

Exactly ,HOTS esported just died canceled completely, overwatch same garbage game forced into esports, wc3 and starcraft deserve to be more $ they are far harder games that require a brain

Stop.

stop what?

Why divide players based on their genitals?

Well in the classic sports it makes sense because women have biological disadvantadges over men. In e-sports that's different because it is not that much about the physical but also the psychical.

Thats my point. Makes sense in traditional sports but not e-Sports

So, what about gay folks? And the thing is, about even the best of these folks hit a 6/10 on appearance. Separating leagues by sex doesn't really do shit.

Well sadly I know it's surprising but not every human of the opposite sex is attractive. Unless you're the type who'd fk a mailbox. I think it's more over a pity system to bring women into the spotlight which they wouldn't normally have. Take the olympic track and field, of course those females are so much faster than me(some random idiot male) however if they competed in the male's sprint only a few would "contend". Sadly I think the latter is more appropriate, because then when you see a chick out there hanging with the best of the best in their competition you'll truly respect their ability. Look at softball and baseball. Basketball's leagues. Soccer. I mean, it's all just pity for the females who cannot play in the male's league. Sad really that not being able to mimic each-other is what defines "equality" to some, when in reality it couldn't be more different.

Yo - that's all to do with major biological differences, yo. Esports as a whole doesn't have that much of a physical demand on the players, so with practice any person regardless of race or gender could be the best.

This comment is dripping with autism

No just no

how many scandals will it take until everyone finally agrees this game was turned into a big joke?