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Growing Up As A Jehovah's Witness: Peter Andre Reveals Why He Didn't Read As A Child | Lorraine

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Singer, reality star and 90s heart throb, Peter Andre, joins Lorraine this morning to tell her how he's celebrating a milestone 30 years in show-business this year. He'll also be revealing how he was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and how this impacted his reading habits both as a child and today as an established children's author.
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@getsummadat7220 Год назад

Having been a Jehovahs Witness all my life until a few years ago, I can believe Peter Andre regarding books in their house. I know some families that took the words given from the platform to the extreme, and others were lax. Some families banned TV and almost all music apart from Kingdom melodies and allowed probably only Classical, Country and Western and Jazz. Whereas some allowed their kids to hang posters of their favourite popstars on the wall. Anyway the point most do not see in this interview is that the JW message appeals to people who are going through stuff in their lives. In his case he felt like an outsider in Australia, being Greek and dark haired among blonde people. For others its the loss of a loved one, the break up of a marriage or something traumatic like civil war in their land which makes them seek comfort and hope of something better in the future.(Could this possibly be the reason why most Witnesses are now found in the 3rd World countries?) They are then love bombed at the Kingdom Hall and made to believe in a worldwide association of Brothers and sisters ... that is until you stop believing in their ever changing doctrines. Once you start questioning or leave the organisation you are shunned and viewed as dead. Their love is conditional

@justmadeit2 Год назад

What made you leave the Jws?

@getsummadat7220 Год назад

@@justmadeit2 I just couldnt knock on people's doors and tell them that Jesus has been around since 1914 , when I didnt believe that anymore. Then there were the numerous court cases regarding child abuse which they tried to hide. I questioned an Elder as i read about it , but was told not to read anything about JWs in the press or internet. I was about to disassociate myself but then got DF'd which at the time I thought was better as disassociating is apparently a sin against the Holy Spirit. I was still believing most of their teachings by then . However, when I read 'Crisis Of Conscious' by Ray Franz and 'Apocalypse Delayed' by James Patterson and my eyes opened and I never went back.

@jacquelynn2051 Год назад

@@justmadeit2You didn’t ask me, but you kinda did❤😂. I left at age 21 because of an accumulation of infractions of course, but the last straw was reinstating my disfellowshipped status…NOT solely based on having a child at 18 out of wedlock…but that I couldn’t conform nor leave my child’s father (at the time). My physical departure occurred about 3 years later. I was reinstated with ‘privileges’ to preach the good news incessantly to strangers in door to door field service etc yet I could NOT comment at the meetings. This idiocy triggered me in a way that allowed me to physically leave. I actually honor my younger self who had a modicum of sense to recognize the cognitive dissonance enough to physically leave this religious doomsday cult , however I suffer from much unresolved angst from being in a nuclear family still involved with this doomsday cult that simply is judgmental and never apologizing. I stopped dealing with them outside of I need to be there family issues. Please note how I keep talking about physical departure from a doomsday cult. This is because it took me about 10 more years to truly BEGIN to wake up! I’m now 49 and the breakdown that occurred in my 30’s was darn near epic….lol. Now I have anger. Not to hurt anyone, but to lobby against absolute religion. Absolute is the key word you religious folk…relax

@justmadeit2 Год назад

@@jacquelynn2051Jw facts. c om has a lot of good info, I would say to anyone to research thoroughly before getting involved with this group and not just the things they steer you in to researching

@eve3363 Год назад

That's any religion...

@sugarbabylove1000 Год назад

Lol. He probably read a lot as a child. But they were bible based publications / story books. Possibly his parents were on the strict side too, as maby JW families buy 'normal' story books for children, though they might take extra care regarding the content. Was lovely that he still respects the faith. I can relate as I also was brought up as a JW but no longer follow it myself.

@LuludarlingScotland Год назад

I think respecting his parents and the relationship with them is important to him. We also know that there are zealous JWs and wishy washy ones. There are some who although strong in the faith are balanced in the viewpoints and equally are respectful to other peoples choices and lifestyles and then there are other JWs who would cut you off for not agreeing with them. If you leave the organisation yet still remain in a good relationship with your family then you are one of the lucky ones. I have a good relationship with my mum but I have friends who were cut off from their families. Many JWs offer conditional love only ( well actually that’s not love- it’s control).

@trevorariza9550 Год назад

Funny how you bring up “still respect the faith”. Yea JWs would like everyone to believe that people are against them. Guess why you find it surprising. But that’s just the false victimization JWs put out to the world

@robertscott5066 7 месяцев назад

Growing up as a jw still one yes the meetings are full of lovely positive people but God gives us all free will to choose

@joena. Год назад

Love how respectful Peter is ❤

@user-vo4wc2jz8g Год назад

At school I remember having to sit outside my classroom in the hallway 😅 the class were reading a series of books where the main character was a wizard, i got bullied so bad for that...

@mikekaraoke Год назад

But he also did grow up in the UK as well and left when he was 8, he also has spoke about he didn't want to leave England when his folks emigrated to Australia! And he was happy when he got his record deal in UK and moved back when he was 19! So he is a Brit.

@bluefishjoe 10 месяцев назад

Ex JW from Los Angeles. I was a little kid in 80’s and teen in 90’s. Everyone’s experience is different. I read whatever I wanted and had posters up on my wall. Despite that, I still am very against the JW’s. There are a religion that doesn’t let you have an opinion and disfellowships you if you violate their man made doctrine.

@lmundishop8047 10 дней назад

I am a JW and all 5 of my children knew how to read before they went to school. We had lots of books that were not religious but books they picked from the library.

@londontown9183 Год назад

Very good answer peter . About the meetings

@vanessas2363 Год назад

FANTASTIC MAN

@Rose_Ck 5 месяцев назад

Your a great dad,And fab singer

@Rose_Ck 5 месяцев назад

Thank you 💕

@BestBuddies. Год назад

I am a JW with a 5 year old child and I let him go to the local library every Monday and on average he signs out over 15 books which we read all of them. Please don't think we are not letting our children not read "other" books because its not true we are very well educated people outside the religion too FYI!

@bunchlead Год назад

Well, I've personally heard talks in Kingdom Hall, where we were told not to study non Organisation literature. In fact, we were strongly recommended not to be influenced by "worldly" books, music and TV etc. Many JWs, do not have a TV or read newspapers etc. JWs also encourage people not to go to college and university too. I diverged, from JW denomination many decades ago and pursue a more accurate form of Christianity. It was the best thing I ever done.

@BestBuddies. Год назад

@@bunchlead You sir ARE WRONG! WE have TV We read non organization books WE also have education in many diverse forms. So the next time you want to come on the chat and hate a religion and then at the same time say you have found the most accurate form of Christianity maybe you should take the Christ like example and not spew hate for your fellow man you hypocrite

@bunchlead Год назад

@@BestBuddies. I beg your pardon? me and my family have been in and around the JW Organisation for over 55 years. Some family members are still JWs. Where have I spewed hate? I'm just quoting facts. Let's debate my points, using Watch Tower and Awakes from years gone by, shall we? Let's also talk about child molesters within JW organisation and JWs getting dates on Armageddon wrong on around 8 different occasions, ie, 1914, 1975 and year 2000? I guess, this is where you will run away? I'll say bye bye in advance?

@bunchlead Год назад

@@BestBuddies. JW Organisation "The article “Slave For Jehovah”, in the October 2015 issue of Watchtower magazine, clearly shows the actual position of Jehovah’s Witnesses. It says in part: “Rather than acquiring secular degrees and titles after their names, true Christians focus on obtaining “letters of recommendation” by engaging as fully as possible in the field ministry.” This is a straw man argument against college and higher education. It reduces all the benefits and reasons to attend college to “secular degrees and “titles”, a gross oversimplification. Then it states that “real Christians” choose not to attend, implying that anyone who disobeys this direction is not a Christian at all."

@bunchlead Год назад

"2005 the October 1st, 2005 Watchtower article entitled “Parents-What Future Do You Want for Your Children?”, cautions parents against the imagined moral risks of allowing their children to get a college education. It asks the question, “Is the risk involved worth whatever benefit the young ones may receive? And most important, what are the young ones learning about things that should come first in their life?” These questions are not explicitly answered but asked in such a way to make the answer clear, parents should not allow their children to receive a college education. Higher education and dating have even been likened to the abuse of drugs".

@user-bd2kf9xd7b Год назад

Jehovah witness kids read books. That's not a jehovah witness thing it's his upbringing and his family.

@dannykumar2410 Год назад

Hats off to you Peter ..people need to stop the hatred towards jws If he wasn’t allowed to read books that’s due to his parents not the religion. Yes they may say that horror books ,violence books are not to be read ..just like any other good parent

@fireflyava Год назад

But his parents minds and beliefs have been shaped by the jehovahs witnesses teachings/beliefs and thus their interpretation and applications of their beliefs upon their choices for their family members. The jehovahs witness religious beliefs strongly influences the believers minds and then their actions. What they can or can not do..what their children can or can not do. It has a huge impact on every day living. A jehovahs witness beliefs will strongly dictate their everyday actions..what they watch. Listen to and read.

@dannykumar2410 Год назад

@@fireflyava what they can and can’t do according to the bible !! Backed up with texts . At least their children are less likely to be involved in crime, violence , theft , gun crime . So is it a bad thing? No one controls your mind unless you allow it too…btw jws children don’t end up in care homes .

@VB-ff1dr Год назад

Educating the public on thousands of SA cases all over the world and an ongoing attempt to hide reports of child SA within the organization is not hate..JWs need to understand the assignment and stop protecting pedophiles in their congregations. It's really simple. We're not asking for much, just stop assaulting children and stop traumatizing young people who want to leave with the illegal shunning.

@scottslater7704 Год назад

Respect peter for not dissing the jw's like most ex's do. a good balanced view

@Angry20Something 5 месяцев назад

People deserve respect. Ideas and worldviews do not. JW is an elitist religion that gives people a completely narcissistic worldview. "Worldly" people are denigrated as unworthy of close association. Other religious communities are slandered as evil and under the control of the devil. Misogyny and homophobia runs rampant. Dissent or debate over biblical interpretations is not permitted. There is a rigid, controlling environment where even minor sins have to be investigated and condemned by human leaders. And serious and abusive behavior is all wrapped up under the umbrella of sin. People are not supported when they leave abusive marriages and child m*lesters are not permanently removed from the congregation or reported to law enforcement in any jurisdiction that doesn't have mandatory reporting for clergy or religious leaders. These ideas and practices are not worthy of respect and you are not a victim of bias or hatred when someone challenges them in your presence.

@fantasmagoracle 7 месяцев назад

It's so nice he still speaks nicely of them and has not turned apostate as some do. It's so sad when that happens.

@FrozenWillow1980 Год назад

As an ex jehovah witness I can testify that he would not have been allowed to read "worldly" books - books not churned out by the organisation. What he would have been reading is My Book of Horror Stories actually named My Book of Bible Stories and there has been many a discussion from psychologists with ex members looking at it how the imagery in these books are awful for a developing brain. For example, the flood. The picture clearly shows rising flood waters with a mother clutching to a little baby. Not surprising seeing as one of the governing body members of the organisation recently came out and said babies are enemies of god. Shocked yet? That's not even scratching the surface of what the damage this religious group does to the developing minds and bodies of children. Recently, Norway stopped government funding towards the group for allowing children to be baptised and then shunned if they dare steer away from the religious groups rules. I can see Pete is reserved on wanting to really let loose on his life as a JW kid. That's probably because he is one of the lucky few who actually have a relationship with his "still in" family and is terrified of being critical as he will lose his family - mandated by the organisation. I myself have been up in front of the Scottish Government blowing the whistle and bringing a petition to investigate religious organisations into their response on CSA. PE1905. The organisation harms people within it and continues to harm others who have left it. But the lovely witnesses you will see on street corners would not dare hear of it passing it off as apostate lies.

@mr_flibbles_4528 Год назад

To be honest mate it just sounds like you had an unlucky experience. That is not a common thing at all in that religion. I'm not here to get into an argument with you so I'm not commenting on the rest of it, but books wise I think you just got unlucky parent wise (I assume). Source: I grew up and was a part of it for 18 years and never heard of anyone not being able to read a non religious book

@trevorariza9550 Год назад

@@mr_flibbles_4528 if it was disney anything to do with magic(which is damn near every book for kids) then yea jw kids aren’t reading it. Seems you came from a family that bend the rules alot. The fact you could be in 18 years without being forced to be baptized says a lot about the level your family was at. In most houses that would be a NO NO. Your situation isn’t the norm. But for majority they are highly critiqued on what books they can and cannot read. They are told not even to look at videos talking in a negative light about jehovah witnesses. YOU ACTUALLY CAN GET IN TROUBLE FOR THAT. Imagine getting in trouble for being on RU-vid

@mr_flibbles_4528 Год назад

@@trevorariza9550 To be fair magic was a bit more of a point of contention, but a lot of it was viewed as a 'conscience' matter. I do disagree that most books for kids involve magic though. I could have just been lucky in my situations, but by and large in my experience the restrictions weren't quite like that. There were some who were stricter than others, but they were the odd ones out in my experience. I agree with what you're saying about the 'videos talking in a negative light', I've always remembered that more in the light of videos talking about things that are just blatant lies (I don't mean in a "oh this couldn't possibly be true! Woe is me! I mean in a 'this is literally just factually wrong'.) But again, different experiences I guess (though I think 'getting in trouble for being on RU-vid' is a little reductive. It's like saying 'they say you can't commit murder. You can actually get in trouble for owning a knife!') As far as I experienced (again, personally) no one complained about youtube

@mr_flibbles_4528 Год назад

@@FrozenWillow1980 I definitely didn't have it 'great'. Few different congregations in different sections of England, though far more recent than your experiences. I do think some of this could come down to the world being a different place. I left on 2020, a lot has changed in those 21 years between you and me. Attitudes have changed, some things are more lax etc etc. But I digress. I didn't say you were the only one to experience this. Everyone is human, so as with any company, religion or group of people, there will be humans who suck. But I do believe saying the majority suck may be unfair. I don't appreciate you accusing me of gaslighting though. I just offered my opinion from my personal experience, then stated how I didn't want to argue. I don't think that's close to gaslighting? But anyway, let's move past that. With CS abusers (I assume that stands for child s*xual abusers), ultimately those types of people are drawn to positions of power, teachers, priests etc etc. I wouldn't say that is something bad to say about the religion, more the people that can be inside it (who can most certainly be horrible people who deserve no pleasantries in life). I think 'mandated' is probably...a bit of a stretch? If you said complaisancy then maybe (though I can't say I know any personally), but the idea that the body are telling elders to diddle to their heart's content just seems bizzare (unless I got the wrong end of the stick in what you were saying, in which case I apologise.) But no need to apologise for bursting my bubble, there was no bubble to burst in the first place

@RS-kk3ow Год назад

I grew up in the state as a JW in the sixties! I recall going door to door with Watchtower and warning everyone about Armageddon. I had to explain that it was God's judgment on the world. I pointed to the horrible pictures of people dying! The only way not to get destroyed was allowing bible study and becoming a JW! Going to peoples houses and letting them know what will happen to them in the future was not normal for a young elementary school girl to do! Also, I suffered from blood disorders and was prepared to testify in court that I would rather die because Jehovah would not resurrect me if I took blood transfusion! This religion drains your entire life with fear! Stay away from it!

@toddhayes3506 Год назад

Sadly Watchtower LIES have destroyed so many lives

@IamStillrich Год назад

TRUTH

@josephlenehan4461 Год назад

Joseph and today TV

@Alan-ss3xp 2 месяца назад

I am a Jehovah’s Witness. When I was young I had posters of Cliff Richard on the wall. One day I came home and they were gone. I think my mum did me a favour really!

@GorgeousRoddyChrome Год назад

The assertion that he 'didn't read books as a child' BECAUSE of the Jehovah's Witness faith and practices is just ludicrous. 🤣

@julie1212100 Год назад

I agree

@gregjones8412 Год назад

Absolutely agree completely. Utterly ridiculous assertion. It clearly didn't do him any harm as he himself stated later in the interview.

@GorgeousRoddyChrome Год назад

@@Sto79Be Did you raise a family in Jehovah's Witnesses? Were you an over 25 ADULT Baptised Publisher with lots of other active JW families in your circle if friends? Did you attend a variety of congregations in different areas as an active publisher, over decades of time? If you had experienced all of that as I did, you would know this guy is full of 💩.

@j3in725 Год назад

It depends what kind of books tho. A harry potter novile or a crisis of conscience would not be books he would be allowed to read

@VB-ff1dr Год назад

I did infact have to hide my fantasy novels from my parents. Wasn't allowed any of the LOTR books which I own the entire collection of because they're literary masterpieces. I also had to hide my rap CDs which I bought with my own money and stashed away, and yes my mom would go into my room and look through my stuff trying to find "contraband" items so she could yell at me and tell me I was inviting demons into the home. I hid most of my stuff in my locker at school so she couldnt throw away things I bought for myself that I liked. 🙄😮‍💨 My parents made me waste away my best years. Instead of allowing me to go to university they kicked me out of the house at 17 for having a boyfriend and then sold their house and moved to a different country.

@elizabethberry-mq7rs Год назад

Needs to look at the Australian Royal Commission now x

@Alan-ss3xp 2 месяца назад

I followed the RC in Australia and found the process fascinating. Especially where Geoffrey Jackson was interviewed. I think the organisation has improved its processes regarding CSA. The landmark Watchtower articles on CSA being discussed at the Kingdom Hall was excellent. The comments during the study riveting. It certainly through a huge light on the subject and made congregation members aware.

@awesometd848 Год назад

Theres some absolute drivel being spouted here. JWs can read books created outside the organisation no problem, but the contents would need to be of suitable reading i.e. not 50 shades of grey! Generally they're nice people & i understand why they discourage association with "worldly" people and that boils down to temptation and peer pressure. We're all familiar with the phrase hanging out with the wrong crowd.

@VB-ff1dr Год назад

Are you also familiar with the numerous child SA investigations involving the watchtower org? The grand jury investigation happening in Pennsylvania state? Apparently hanging around pedophiles is okay though 👍

@daleparfitt7243 Год назад

God wate space

@peeg09 Год назад

I thought they mean't Seal the singer Ugh!

@carolynesimpson6070 Год назад

I could of sworn he used to have a tattoo on his neck😮

@ZK_SHREDR Год назад

😂😂what has that got to do with reading. Ive been a witness much longer than him and all i did as a child was read,"video games bad" 🙄is what they said. Spent my life reading and i still love it,not because of a religion. This guy man🤦🏽

@j3in725 Год назад

I would research your religion if I were you. Maybe his parents were very strict. But that doesn't chance some facts about your religion

@ZK_SHREDR Год назад

@@j3in725 one of the biggest teachings in the religion,is to read your Bible,read your story,book,read your days text. Anyone that say they weren't encouraged to read as a witness, is a liar. I wasn't aloud video games or a tablet till I was 14. So I read,read lots of books wasn't aloud to read Harry Potter. But I read alot of horror at school and secretly. Every witness born in the religion starts reading the bible to our "congregation' at atleast 6 or 7 years old. So again, as many controlling things this religion says-not to read wasn't one of them.

@j3in725 Год назад

@@ZK_SHREDR but mate... You just admitted you had to read books in secret. Like....would you not be able to enjoy the horror genre If you weren't a jw? Also bruv not reading a Horror book is probably one of the minor issues I gotta give you that. Are you allowed to do research on your religion with material that isn't jw or from the leaders? Because if your not...than your also not allowed to read. The thing is it's not about not being allowed how to learn to read, what the video is about is information control. What you read, are you allowed to read anything you wish that doesn't go against the bibles moral code mate?

@dancingnature Год назад

Are you allowed to read accurate science books ? No . JWs and other creationists have their own ridiculous versions of evolution that real mainstream biologists don’t use. But unless you see both versions you wouldn’t realize that the creationist versions are wrong .

@ZK_SHREDR Год назад

@@dancingnature what's your point? I never said that our books are superior to science . Ofcourse there not,its unstudied man-made beliefs printed on paper. The watchtower etc is all man-made, half the time it doesn't carry any biblical beliefs. Ofcourse I've read factual science books ,it's called school. You don't get excluded from the lesson because of your religion, at the end of the day you still have to sit that paper. My point is reading is not discouraged at all by the religion, of certain sources -yes. Because that's the rule most religions have. From the age of 7 upwards every jw kid will have to occasionally read the bible in front of a large audience. So Peter Andre is absolutely lieing when he said they detest all reading. Especially kids books🤦🏽😂

@benoitvadeboncoeur3473 Год назад

His parents being Cypriots you’d have figured that they were of the Greek Orthodox confession🤔?

@fantasmagoracle 7 месяцев назад

Witnesses are from all nations of the world.

@juliechurley2716 Год назад

The defensiveness is informative in itself. They are widely known as a high control cult and fear is used prolifically.😊

@toddhayes3506 Год назад

Great Job keep Exposing Watchtower LIES!

@fantasmagoracle 7 месяцев назад

He didn't, that's just you being angry in a tiny corner of the Internet, on your own... alone...

@mo2874 Год назад

People look at Peter Andre and think he's mature, well adjusted, caring, genuine, considerate.... and they dont link his upbringing to it... Proverbs 22:6 New Living Translation Direct your children onto the right path, and when they are older, they will not leave it.

@Ana-vs3zl Год назад

That’s no true

@cheekybum6136 Год назад

Never heard such nonsense I know of not any witness who was never allowed to read as a child unless it was gods word, especially in the UK could understand the US 😂.

@ashleighgibson3239 Год назад

I’ve just watched the episode of Katie and Peter where they are in America and they are in a shop where a young bloke is on a Segway.. Peter is soo toxic towards Katie, mocking her to a stranger saying “yea she blew them” and then being so disgusting towards Katie, I AM SO SURPRISED THAT VIDEO ISNT ALL OVER THE MEDIA, PETE IS SO MANIPULATING AND DEGRADING TOWARDS KATIE WHO IS SAT WITH HER HANDS UNDER HER CHIN, ITS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! PETE SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED ON ITV as he is so toxic towards Katie!!!

@indigosmyth7475 Год назад

😂😂stfu he's talking about his books

@Lee-sv8su Год назад

Golly he looks old here

@mattparr3038 Год назад

He's 50 😂😂😂.. he looks great! No one stays 25 forever. Lol

@markhooper4532 11 месяцев назад

Winnie Wallace...When your career's on a bit of a slump, write a childrens book.

@Suzi851 Год назад

Ahhh it's a shame to see Peter Andre leave the Jehovah's witnesses faith. I did always like his song mysterious girl. Oh hopefully he may come back to the ONLY and ONLY TRUE LIVING GOD JEHOVAH.

@InvisibleVicky Год назад

Why would you let your child die rather than have a transplant. It’s a cult. Evil

@claricestarling6510 Год назад

@@InvisibleVickyyou’re not disallowed from having a transplant

@InvisibleVicky Год назад

@@claricestarling6510 that’s not what I was told. It’s a horrific cult

@claricestarling6510 Год назад

@@InvisibleVicky I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt one is permitted to have a transplant. Maybe you’re getting confused with blood transfusions, all religions are cults in my opinion

@mytye Год назад

Actually it’s a conscious decision if you choose to have a transplant or not my sister who was baptised sister gave one of her kidneys to her husband that was not in the faith (they were married before my sister got baptised) it was a bloodless operation which many top surgeons will agree to do these days with success the reason we abstain from blood is for safety reasons from catching all sorts of diseases plus the bible says at to abstain from using blood at Acts 15: 29 my other sister whom is not a Jehovah witness got hepatitis from having a blood transfusion and she wishes she didn’t but we are there to help her because she gets really poorly

@MaryBrown-cn2uu 23 дня назад

He is wordly, he no a jw by any means. He doesnt love God so i dont care about him. 👎😵‍💫

@anthonyn.6176 Год назад

JESUS CHRIST is the ONLY TRUE GOD

@DavidScheller-lr5cw 11 месяцев назад

Jehovah is not God's name The following proves what his name really is. The following is Scriptural proof who Jesus really is and that He is much more than just the Son of God. Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught by Jesus himself which means whatever Paul said was what Jesus told him to say. Paul said in 1 Timothy 3:16,"AND WITHOUT CONTROVERSY GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS, GOD was manifest in the FLESH (Jesus), justified in the SPIRIT, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, and received up into glory." Paul said in 2 Corinthians 3:17,"Now the LORD IS THAT SPIRIT, and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty." Jesus is speaking in Revelation 2:7,"He that has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says to the churches...." And Paul said in Ephesians 4:4, "For there is one body, ONE SPIRIT....verse 5 ONE LORD, ONE Faith and ONE BAPTISM." Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10,"Beware lest any man fool you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 FOR IN HIM DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY." Jesus is not just part of the Godhead - Jesus IS the Godhead. Paul said in Hebrews 1:8,"But unto the SON he said, Thy throne O GOD is forever and ever...." Jesus said in Revelation 21:6-7,"And he said unto me (John) it is done, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I (Jesus) will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of life freely. 7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his GOD, and he shall be my SON." Paul said in Titus 2:13, "Looking for that blessed hope, and glorious appearance of the great GOD and our SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST." 1 John 5:20,"And we know that the SON of God is come, and has given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his SON Jesus Christ, THIS IS THE TRUE GOD, AND ETERNAL LIFE." Isaiah 9:6,"For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son (Jesus) is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, ..." Jesus said in Revelation 1:8, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is, which was, and is to come, THE ALMIGHTY." Jesus said in Revelation 2:7, "He that has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says unto the Churches....." Jesus said in Mark 16:16, "He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be saved, but he that believes not shall be damned." Jesus addressed what damned means in Luke 16:19-31, Matthew 13:42, Matthew 25:41, Mark 9:45-46, Revelation 20:15, and Revelation 21:8. Jesus said in Matthew 28:19, "Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not names) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Every time Jesus disciples baptized anyone in water they invoked Jesus name at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. Peter said in Acts 4:12, "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men whereby we must be SAVED." Some say the thief on the cross next to Jesus was not Baptized yet Jesus told him he would be with him that day in Paradise. Jesus had not yet given the COMMANDMENT to be Baptized in His Name until after he rose from the dead and just before he ascended into heaven. The thief or anyone else could not have been Baptized in His Name because they did not know about it. There is not one scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:1-5 is a good example. If you are convinced you need to get Baptized in water in Jesus name and get Baptized with the Holy Ghost - which is addressed in Acts 2:4 (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5. Do a search, type in "United Pentecostal Church International", slightly scroll down to just below the red box, and type in your zip code. Then a screen will show a Church nearest you that will do that. If you do the above you will be making SURE your name is written in the Lamb's Book Of Life. Jesus said in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."

@Alan-ss3xp 2 месяца назад

Psalm 83:18 and Exodus 6:3 King James Version and others.