Growing Up with a Trans Parent with Emma Thomas, from Children of Transitioners | Episode 169 

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Cows and other farm animals have been induced with hormones for decades!

Because it’s child abuse.

Those are autogynephiliacs with a fetish for lactation. Absolutely revolting.

Why are you watching this then if you pro child transition.

Send them feedback to complain about their ignorance.

Pops up when a guest is a gay person too.

I didn't get that - I'm in Australia

I just sent some strongly worded feedback that will likely be ignored. Trevor IS conversion therapy FFS - conversion INTO trans.

She keeps saying "the sexual element of it"-- IT"S ALL SEXUAL; there isn't "just" one elemental that is sexual, it's all perverse and by design so.

Yes. Activists have been calling it Munchhausen's by proxy for ages.

Munchhausen by proxy has been around for decades, it is in the DSM five. Basically a parent and or caregiver that puts their child through continuous medical testing they go against Dr. recommendations would be diagnosed with Munchhausen’s by proxy. Sometimes these children die as a result. It doesn’t necessarily focus on transitioning their children, it can be really any kind of harm to their children medically

It's definitely gaslighting their children and is dangerous as they know the truth but have to lie to themselves and everyone around them. This leaves them open to other abuses too 😢

100% agree! Now these kind of abuses that would make it to child-welfare for investigation are now ignored and even celebrated

@sharonw2008 that is an excellent point! A similar phenomenon that this reminds me of is when children raised by parents who exhibit irrational fear and high anxiety, they lose the ability to judge what is legitimate danger from irrational. Taught to fear everything, they cannot differentiate genuine threats from imagined in everyday life. How can you expect someone to establish healthy boundaries and expectations when they are taught as a child to deny the reality before them and instead be forced to call it up when it’s down and say when it’s night?

Don´t force the lie..on others pretending to be someone else is FRAUD.

You know, if you personally can't understand something, that's on you, right? It's not like I can move to France and then be upset that I don't speak French. If you find this upsetting then you should interact with people who don't provide you with an echo chamber, you should interact with different people and understand them, because this isnt new and every culture has had trans people throughout all time and cultures. It's not that confusing, it's just been politicized for votes to distract us from real problems.

@@jj-bv3ui I'm a retired clinical social worker who gladly mentored a young trans-female therapist before I retired. I was decades ahead of the "societal trend" of finally supporting LGBTQ rights. Some of my best friends are members of the community. That said - there has never been a time in human history that I am aware of where I as a male can wake up tomorrow morning - "feeling" and "identifying" as a female - and then demand access to women's rape shelters, women's domestic violence shelters, women's prisons, women's locker rooms, and women's sports - for starters. The arrogance exhibited by many in the "trans-activist" community in refusing to even discuss the traumatic impacts of placing a human being with a penis in the same rape shelter with traumatized women constitutes a very new, updated, "post-modern version" of "misogyny" - but misogyny nonetheless - that is glaringly apparent to anyone capable of balanced and nuanced thought. Having read 30 books on the topic over the last two years - from all perspectives - even grand dame Ms. Butler - I suspect that your "echo chamber" assertion would fall under the category of - "projection." Just a guess. : /

If you can, you should speak out about your experience. Obviously it's different, but your story should be shared, if/when you feel ready. I'm sorry for the loss of your mother. May she rest in peace!

What an awful experience. I’m so sorry. I hope you reach out to Emma. I think we will all be hearing a whole new generation of children of trans parents 😢

Given the fact that you were told as adults. I say he was probably doing you a favor and made the right decisions by not trying to make it apparent early in life. If you still claim it's messed up and that you guys couldn't handle any kind of harsh truths about your own fathers AGP struggles then that has more of a bearing on maybe both you and your potentially your fathers own bearing of not raising you to handle the real world

​@@defenestratorXwhy should his daughters be accepting of his abhorrent behaviors? His waiting for their adulthood has nothing to do with their maturation, dad probably had the fantasy idea that family has to accept you. Sharing your sexual proclivities with your children at any age is wrong.

@@defenestratorX that's like saying someone wasn't raised right because they aren't accepting of their parent's pedophilic desires. Both of these things are paraphilias, sexual compulsions that are seriously problematic. And AGP is almost worse, because of its selfish nature, requiring everyone around the person to be ok with it. With pedophilia, there's a lot more social shame, so it's not as if the people around the perv needs to go along with their perversion.

Which is so weird because at the same time the media pushes the idea that children "know" their gender and we should listen to them, and that they must be heard Until it doesn't fit the narrative and suddenly silence.

I wish they would interview children of gay couples too. I hope this comment doesn’t get erased again…

@@darielaaudry9193 tell us!

I agree.. it's similar to encouraging an anorexic to get liposuction and diet or someone w BIID to have a limb removed.

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you're not really learning then, you're just seeking out echo chambers. You should interact with folks like myself who transitioned and it literally saved my health in a huge way not just mentally but physically. And I came out in 2003 so it's not new. It's just a politicized boogeyman subject that distracts folks from actual issues.

Its more than just narcissism, though that is the root of it. To force a baby to suckle on the hormone filled pus leaking from a fetish obsessed man's nipple is far beyond narcissism. Its psychotic, its endangering a baby for sexual thrills and validation. I'm not sure what the punishment for such a man should be, but it should be maximal.

I think ‘gender dysphoria’ is the result of cross sex ideation or obsession.

"Trans" is definitely an umbrella "beard" to obscure the fact it's three four or five dysfunctional states that are preying on children as a source of moral integrity.

@prof.jezebel Did you read about the HIV positive trans woman who chest fed his child? It was just in the papers. They don’t want HIV positive women feeding their babies as it increases contagion risk and this selfish monster subjected an innocent baby to not only a dangerous cocktail of artificial hormones, but also HIV tainted milk. If that’s not narcissism, I don’t know what is.

As WPATH's SoC 8 demonstrate, the state of childhood is a source of innocence, something they crave like a succubus. It's psychopathy, it is what is meant by the terms "morally debased depravity" - this is the darkness you read about in the bible.

@@AndyJarman how dare you as someone who identifies as a succubus, I denounce those predatory misogynist males 👹🌙 😂(only joking)

I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s like the most evil scourge and yet we are expected to celebrate it!

In the end all the mothers will weep😢 all the fathers will kneel. But by then it will be too late.

I am so sorry. I pray you will see them again as soon as possible. My heart goes out to you.

I’m so sorry!! I hope you are able to see them sooner than later, and will be able to tell them that their father’s depiction of women 1. Isn’t true and 2. Isn’t okay. Praying to the universe for you and your grandkids 🙏 💔

I am sorry 😿

"I'm a laydeee." 😂 introduced my daughter to Little Britain, she loved it.

Some might call it grooming

Wow.

It doesn’t matter if they’re trans I seen one the other day that’s HIV positive. We’re supposed to believe it doesn’t matter matters to us doesn’t matter to them.

There was also a man with HIV who breastfed an infant. These are some sick creeps we're talking about.

I couldn't calmly listen to that part. Not only the man's deranged behavior but also the indifference of the wider system. It's truly sickening.

I don't get the joke?

Shaft defination-long handle of a spear. 🍆 interesting name to call a group of trans women 🤔 @joane24

​@@joane24shaft is what a part of the male member is called. It's also a hyper male character from the... 60s I think

@@souxcasa Oh, thanks. Now I kind of regret for asking. 😅

@@joane24 😂 it's a ridiculous name for a group that believes they are women. Sorry for disabusing you of your innocence there 😂

I got the "conversion therapy" write-up... Whut?!

If you select the dots in the box, top right, you can send feedback and tell them how inappropriate it is! I did. Bloody annoying.

That is not an unsual experience for new fathers. It does not signal AGP nor does it mean they are narcissistic at all. It is quite a normal response as they admire that when a baby is first born, their wives are often the parent which the baby prefers (for obvious reasons of a mother being uniquely capable of providing the babys nutritional needs) but also because it may be the first time the husband has had to divide her attention away from the husband. It is quite normal for new fathers to feel some jealosy. In healthy couples, this can be mitigated as fathers can be encouraged to participate in other ways in caring for the new baby and mothers can express respect and admiration for the new fathers commitment to their new family.

@@Gingerblaze i dont think mothers should be attending the needs of an emotionally immature husband wjilst she is busy with a newborn. Grow up, suck it up and get on with being a responsible father.

Met a man who refused...yes he refused ...his wife wanting to breastfeed, because he couldnt do that....and ...'and its not fair' comment from him. We all thought he was a controlling sicko...now i wonder if he was secretly AGP, because he also wanted to inhale gas during delivery in time her contractions. !!!!!! We told him he had to leave the birth unit, he was interfering with our care of her. Narcissim absolute or fantasy stuff ?? Scary man, that one. Listening to Emma...maybe the poor baby grew up in a houshold like hers. Dreadful. 😢

@@jenniferplatts174 I am equally astounded to hear this! How did men get to this level of weirdness? 🫣

​@@GingerblazeWhat a pathetic and weak man to be jealous of an infant instead of having pride and wonderment at what he helped create. He will never bond with the child in a proper manner if he cannot conced that his wife's breaststroke are not his sole property or sexual plaything but the sole source of life for the child. Pathetic.

Totally.

We can’t, if we heard the harm it caused it would derail the narrative that “your truth” is all that matters. The difficulty is, the Trans lobby forms the argument as though theirs are the only thoughts and feelings that matter, whereas in reality, the world does not revolve around them and other viewpoints are equally valid.

@@Catmom-gl5nt they just had it. I know what you mean most places in most people are not gonna have this conversation.

Exposure to an alcoholic parent is harmful. Will your neice remain married and will husband now identifying as a trans woman be able to focus on the children's needs over their own process. I bet not.

"Gender-a-Wider Lens" has many great episodes! I usually listen to their podcast when I'm cleaning or doing chores. Last week's episode was excellent, too!

@@christinadodd5780 Thank you, I will be watching more and your suggested video.

Totally. I have met many, and all are misogynists.

It's yt's way of trying to discredit the video.

Typical YT being assholes 😒

And not just any adults!

You'd also have to look at how the definitions of disability have broadened. Most of the transwomen that I know transitioned before 2000. They transitioned much later in life and all had been married. I say had been because these transitions began after their wives died (and/ or any children were grown up). It's almost a cliche that, at a time when everyone was normalised into the idea that they should be married, transwomen (and some gay men) were drawn to partners who were older. Older women and disabled women were not thought of as sexual in the mid to late 20th century. So, maybe more of a partnership with men who weren't very sexual, or heterosexual?

That is Narcissism. Transsexual or not, that is what it’s like for the children of narcissistic Fathers. You only exist to shine a light on your Father. That was my experience too. It’s excruciating and destructive. I identify strongly with this lady.

@@Karen-us3ls sorry your childhood was like that. It’s sad with some self-esteem is so low. They neither child to validate them.

Maybe "My Father, Transwoman" from the channel "Women's Rights Network" here on RU-vid. I also remember that little death bed moment, i actually randomly think of it ocasionally, although i don't remember the rest of the interview that well.

@@Serin-ee6no yesss, it must have been this one! Thank you so much, dear Serin - I have the same reoccurring memories. It's such a deep argument in Emma's so touching experience with distant resemblances to my own upbringing like some of Joe Burgo's young AGP case descriptions and also the childhood and story of Call Me Sam who detransitioned after 25 years, who's father was also trans, and who has three gems of dialogues with Cori Cohn published here on RU-vid.

​@@dreimalnein22Call me Sam's father was trans too? Wow, I mustve missed that somehow.

We have no idea. And I wish we knew a way to remove it.

They have links to the guest's books and websites in their header below the video.

Thanks Christina; I looked before posting but couldn’t see them. I’ll check again!

And it’s not really healthy then. My mother is a NICU nurse and while she supports breast feeding, she supports a fed baby more. She has seen too many women who can’t produce enough milk insist on breath milk only which results in failure to thrive. If you love your baby, all you should care about is the baby getting the nutrients it needs, even if that means supplementing with formula.

What is not respectful about this comment? You hear the testimony of a woman raised by a trans father. There are many testimonies of children raised by gay parents and very respectfully they talk about their suffering. Why is that a taboo???

​@@darielaaudry9193the channel and the organisation is solely about trans and "gender" issues. If you want to hear about the experiences of kids with gay parents there are channels that exist I'm sure.

@@littleboots9800 not true. There are videos about aptomenophilia and other issue. Everybody is scared to death to touch the issue I mention, but it’s related. I already got my comment highlighted and it’s not hateful nor is it disrespectful. It’s just that they shut you down, without explanations. But people are being harmed.

Yes I don't get it when a man says they feel like they're a woman. How would they know what being a woman feels like? What they mean is they like dressing up us a woman.

Yes, the wonderful lawyer in the tickle vs giggle case in Australia told the court “A woman is not a thought”. Nor is a woman a hormone count, sexual organs, or their clothes and hair. That people are seriously reducing humans to these definitions, it’s shocking.

That’s right, but in the NHS NOTHING matters more than an autogynophile’s feelings. Incredible isn’t it?

The lactation is a side effect of an additional medication that suppresses nausea and vomiting.

There's certainly data to show that doing nothing is better than intervening in most childhood or adolescent cases of sex dysphoria. There isn't sufficient data to support hormonal or surgical intervention or social transition. It doesn't lower the risk of suicide, contrary to what the trans lobby claims, and it involves bodily mutilation and sterilisation. Most rational people would say, 'better to not mutilate than to mutilate'.

Why do trans activists deliberately make shit up? You didn’t even watch a solitary second of this video and your comment betrays that the fact.

@@dra2033Can you cite a single peer reviewed study showing alternative methods of treatment advocated for by Sasha and Stella that concludes said treatment is effective at alleviating gender dysphoria long term? 🤔

@@juliereigoldsteinthere literally not even having that conversation tho

Not a single minute in this conversation that conversation took place. Did you watch this?