I dragged my 5 and 7 year old kids from Melbourne to Metuchen New Jersey in 1978 and back to Melbourne 5 years later. Both kids treasure memories and friends from NJ and later back in Melbourne. Not same as your experience Steve but I think worth mentioning. I had Dengue in Singapore 20 years ago and Steve’s symptoms are the same as I had. Nasty experience!
We travelled a lot with our kids, for years at family dinners as adults they would tell us all the things they resent about their upbringing, now that their kids are adults they have to sit through their children telling them the things they resent including lack of travel and tell their parents what a great upbringing they had. In summary as a parent you can’t win.
My husband was employed by a Bangkok company. We moved there with two children, 13 years and 11 years. Initially my 13 yr old daughter was a bit resentful but now at 37 years old she is back living in Thailand. The move was the best thing for them. My son ended up living in Bangkok for 15 years and only recently moved back to Australia . Overseas travel broadens the mind, no doubt.
Steve , Tim is making a living off getting people to spend days with him ! Come on man learn to love it , oh wait the whole point of Grumpy Old Men is grumpy. Love the show guys .
Excellent as usual. By the age of 15, I lived in 3 countries, different cultures and languages. Best thing. If i were younger (Steve's age) i would have lived in Bangkok.
Steve, this is the first Grumpy I've tuned in for. Watched your daily programme for ever but Grumpy Old Men sounded a bit too close to home. Today, I loved it -- especially with your feigned horror and embarrassment at what Steve was going to say next. Looking forward to next week, Brian.
Thanks for the great show. Dengue numbers have doubled this year. Since this year a vaccine QDENGA, developed by Takeda from Japan, is on the market and available in Thailand. Protects against all four sorts.
I disagree with you, as I know a few families that have taken there children with them all over the world. Most of the negative issues with children growing up, comes down to the parenting. Not because of location.
Agreed 100 percent. It is the upbringing. I know quite a few kids growing up whose dad's were military and lived in many countries throughout the World and are way kool with their experiences and stories. It doesn't matter though cause their's always a few bad apple's on the tree in every country.
What Steve was talking about is the vital social skills to make friends etc.. you can pretend the kids are alright and worldly all you want but they might live a life of loneliness because it was never worth making real friends on the road..
Twenty years, but I worked in the morgue for most of that time so I never caught anything. Pathologists don't even wear masks at the grossing table. Everything's dead, including bacteria or viruses.
Steve. that may have been the expat situation back in the 1960's when you were a kid but as an expat kid in the 80's it was the best upbringing ever. I came back to the UK with a completely different perspective on the world and as an adult can easily slot into any culture in hours where many of my English peers cannot.
LOL! I remember putting out buckets of sand for ash trays. But certainly cigarettes, guns and food are the three most common props, and I remember a time when actors would not complain about their characters smoking.
Steve, love you man and your so wrong. I grew up like you described and even more so cause it included foreign locations. Difference is I liked it and you didn’t. Have so many friends who grew up on the move. We now consider earth our home. We live everywhere
Completely agree with you Steve about selfish parents dragging their children half way around the world just to satisfy their desire to explore the world. As you so correctly stated, children need routine and stability as they are growing up! 👍. Glad you are feeling a bit better. Tim, video quality and sound excellent today 😃. Don't know what the new technology was you were using but it was obviously working well 😅.
Half agree, half disagree on families overseas. My kids were born in Thailand, and also lived in Hong Kong and Singapore. Yes, I was on a full expat package with paid American schools and flights home so they weren't only restricted to a foreign culture. But their time abroad gave them a perspective that they could never gain by being only in US, and they still maintain communication with old school friends. But when they reached 8 - 10 years old, they were moved to the US for a more normal life, to build long term friendships and spend time with grandparents...this was planned / deliberate. And after a few years, I returned overseas on a single status basis, leaving wife and kids behind...a compromise, but it worked.
I have lived in Thailand for 24 years moved here from Boulder, Colorado, and love it here I am married to a Thai woman whom I met in Koh Samui where I still own a house but I like to listen to you two interesting fellows my age being 66, by the way Steve my birthday is Nov. 12th♏ and I will be 67, every Sunday and all I say is Thank you!😎✌🌴🌴🌴
This comment is for Steve Ross with an e. I have had 2 hernia operations. The first one was a long incision where they jammed the mesh into place. Three years later I still had tender areas. The second procedure was laparoscopic and recovery was about 3 days and had no lasting effects. Need I say more.
I exaggerated a bit. I wake up at 4:30 a.m, so when I travel I buy corn flakes and milk from the 7/11 to keep in the room so I don't have to wait for someplace to open up for breakfast. But other than that, and maybe a candy bar now and then, I don't eat from there.
Completely agree with Steve! As a retired teacher, I can state every time a child moves they lose approximately 6 months of education. Kids need a stable environment. Playing outside, sports, neighbors & classmates are vital To a healthy childhood! Home schooling for the most part has created very sheltered & anti-social individuals. Social media & video games have had a great detriment on society.
You should find a flatbed trailer to put your turtle on and pull it behind Tim's baby blue Mercedes!... Namchan driving and the two of you riding in the back seat waing to the crowd...
2 points. TCK, third culture kids. Having been an int'l school teacher for most of my career, I have known many tck's. Watching a blond 5 year old Dutch girl romping abound with native children in Maun, fluent in Tswana, Dutch, English and 2 other languages, it can work. Its not so much the location (though I think 2 years is better than a 1 year stay) but the it is the family that is the determinant. Thank goodness for 7-11. When the lockdown hit Pattaya. 7-11 was one of the few places open. Everything else was closed. The selection may not have been great, and there were some supply issues, but I was able to get essentials throughout the lockdown. (and restaurant delivery services, Love you Food Panda, tip your delivery person)
This show is better than Sunday morning NFL, especially since I can't watch it till tomorrow Thai time. I'm 3-mons in and can't understand why the canned tuna tastes sweet.
My family moved out to the middle east when I was seven. 33 years later I had to ( go home ) I loved my life in the middle east, the problem came when I had to ( come home ) I've found it very hard to adjust ! My home was the little village in the desert. As always love the show.
try keeping the poly in the fridge. I keep all my sealants in there and the polyurethanes like Sikaflex are good for years but only last weeks if left in the normal environment
The Yank who assisted Rama IX's dad in breaking all those unfair treaties with European countries, Francis Sayre, was related to Woodrow Wilson. I attended prep school with his grandson Nevin Sayre. Rama 9 was born in Boston (like me) and vacationed as a boy on Martha's Vineyard (like me)
Riveting, informative episode. Day Of The Triffids, loved that book. Read it at school, before watching the early 60s made movie. The movie was good but the book was better. Well written by John Wyndham. 👍
Think you should write "Pirates of Phuket" Steve. Phuket has a very right history of pirates. Everyone loves pirate stories. Perhaps someone will even make a movie. Great show today!
I use broccoli everyday for most of 55 years. That’s how I quit cigs. So many illnesses come from it including bladder cancer, and eye diseases. Not to mention lung diseases. My O2 says are 97! Have great day!
Hi Tim and steve, first great channel, question Tim dont your Cats try to run away back home there are many storys where people move the cat will walk hundreds of miles to find its way back. stay healthy and safe guys ,kenn
Only if the cat's owner lives at the old house. Many years ago a good friend of mine took his mom's cat and dropped it off many miles, hours away from the house (he hated the cat), the cat found his way back to the house.
Glad Mr Rosse is feeling better. Never heard of Mai Pen Rai - I'm gonna have to check it out. EDIT: 555+ Tell us what you really think Steve! And good audience diplomacy (again) there Tim, you're getting practice this week. 🤣🤣
Steve. listening to you reminds of business cards that were going around many years ago, saying, 'I have listened to your woes and you have my utmost sympathy. Now f..k off and leave me alone.' But I'm enjoying the program.
I agree with Steve. These so called parents won't accept any restrictions on their life-style - and certainly not parenthood. They will argue they are including parents, who are engaging in their children, yadi-yada, and all the rest of it. But it's the kids who are forced into activities and contexts where they have no reason or desire to be, and are not particularly welcome.
@@austhaitravelahaha! Actually I’m all for 24 hour operation of food in airports, having recently near starved in Incheon because 11:30pm to 2am was “break time”.
@@daveb3987 covid was a batch. At Perth airport in Western Australia, all shops were closed for over 300 days during lockdown. You couldn't even get a cup of coffee.
Thanks guys, another great stream. Steve, had that op a coupla years ago, thankfully a doddle, no issues - I had 3, though only one was showing. Good luck.
I spent 8 weeks in Germany and Sicily when I was 10. Apart from drowning and being resuscitated in Cefalu, I loved it there😅 We moved across to the other side of town the next year. The first few months were tough...
Seven places in seven years is different from seven years in one place somewhere 'overseas' (it's potentially just home for the kid). Totally agree, though, that you shouldn't uproot your children over and over and how could a parent not realize that.
It sounds like you get dengue fever. You got the same symptoms as I had. Hurt all over. Went to hospital for 5 days and on the last day I found out all the med they were giving me was jus vitamins. No antibiotics for dengue fever or so I was told back then.
No cure for Dengue! No appetite and hurting all over! Eyes aching and a bad state to be in! Plenty of fluids with electrolyte salts! First food I ate was Papaya. An old 'Thai remedy' for Dengue is a tea drink made from Papaya leaves! Took me more than 6 months to come out from the Dengue fever situation!
This stationary in Chalong is my favorite shop. When I was still an active artist, I spent thousands of baths there. Canvas, oil paints, acrylic paints, brushes, spatulas... I bought gold leaves in the Buddha shop
As the product of a small liberal arts college (that was over-priced), I can agree that it is sadly disappearing. Along with standards for a decent, well rounded education. But I might be a bit snobby in that regard. Anyway...enjoyed the show as always, gents! Glad Steve is felling better and happy early birthday! And Tim, I am still tickled to meet another non-teenage Army:)
polyurethane reacts badly to sunlight, better to use lacquer or even that poor excuse for varnish they sell there, tho I've seen that virtually disappear over a few years of exposure. Might find some decent lacquer in spray cans somewhere. Hopefully the shells won't get hit too bad by the sun, they look good.
Yes, have not eaten meat loaf or corned beef since leaving boarding school. Also if you have badly behaved stallion's you put them in a paddock with a mare and they will behave. Hope you both keep well and happy.
Hi Tim My wife and I are thinking of staying at Bonneville for a few nights.B & B stands for bed & breakfast Does your B & B supply breakfast?Like others
We’re working on it. By the end of November we’ll have an optional breakfast available. There’s also a little cafe 1 minute drive up the road that does a nice simple breakfast. There’s also a kitchen so you can do your own breakfast.
Steve, you have never eaten anything out of the 7-Eleven? Never stumbled home at 3 AM. Grabbed a pint of ice cream or one of those fabulous microwavable Thai dishes, or a tasty ham and cheese croissant or spicy hot dog🤣 I bet you have purchased plenty of stinky dried fish or green algae snacks for your rent a girlfriend🤣🤣 I certainly have..I bet most of us have🤣🤣
Okay, look Big Dave, I am in bed by 9 o'clock and I wake up at 4:30 a.m., so no stumbling home at 3 a.m. I don't like ice cream because it hurts my teeth. I have not had a rented girlfriend since 1997. Jesus Christ, Dude, I've written five books about my life in Thailand, and hundreds of magazine and newspaper articles. You should not be making these mistakes. And while I have eaten corn flakes and milk from the 7/11, I've never eaten anything more "prepared" than that. For me, the 7/11 is where I pay my bills and buy cigarettes. Nothing more.
Tim, we're very interested in the "chef creates a meal with B500 of 7-11 products" shows ! Would you make those available for your hard-core viewers? Honestly, it sounds interesting.👍
How bad was were Hernia Steve? I had a double Hernia operation last January at Mission hospital in Bkk. 7 hour operation and 79 stiches in and thoughout the 4 walls inside and out. Still have resdual pain but not to the point i need to go see the Doc. Goodluck and peace up. 🌴✌🏄♂️🏄♂️🏄♂️✌🌴
