Damn that car is fast. I raced a 911 on my TL1000R and when he actually fell back out of my peripheral I looked at the speedo and it said 155. Coolest race ever. We were neck and neck shiftin' through the gears.......
@cardshark525 No actually most hypo car drivers choose a roll-on because they can't get traction from the dig. Sure the bikes tend to wheelie if they launch too hard but the advantage is with the bike unless the car has mega-bucks clutches, suspension mods and slicks. Usually the quickest road cars off the line are AWD like modded EVO's and WRX's. The performance car has got to have low gearing to get off the line so the bike usually clears off between their 1 - 2 shift.
@santjustin The fastest Supra's are auto, the gears are longer so you're in boost and on the throttle longer (once a Supra is under boost the powerband is actually quite wide, and with the manual you're wasting car lengths shifting 3-4 times), and it maintains boost between shifts so you don't have to build it up again each time.
Estou assistindo esse vídeo só hoje com mais de 25 anos na frente, geralmente as motos super esportivas são mais brabas que os carros. A adrenalina na moto também é muito superior, um salve do Brasil aos pilotos de ambas as super máquinas 🇧🇷🍀🎁💯⭐️🏆🍾🥂👊🏾✌🏾
You can always have fun on a bike. Even a dead straight road is much funner. Traffic jams are really where the bike is much funner then the car. Swerving in and out of traffic passing everyone who is stopped.
@M2fiftycal Yet the bike did Bridge to Gantry which is at least 30 secs quicker so add 30 sec to your bike time. Which would be 2.49 The quickest official time is by Helmut Dahne on a Honda RC30 750 V4 in 1993 at 7.49 but that was 20.83 km so would be equavalent to 7.19 over 19.1 km, the distance all bikes ride over these days. There are no separate timed sessions for bikes so they ride on public days with traffic. The quickest current bike is a Suzuki GSXR 600 ridden by Andy Carlisle at 7.19.
@Msashman If you want the top performance, you sacrifice comfort. There are, however some really quick sport touring bikes that are super comfortable. I've been on the 2011 Honda VFR1200, the Ninja 1000, and the Triumph Speed Triple. All have plenty of power, and put no stress on your back or wrists.
87-lowest, 89-middle, and 91highest ( that's in SoCaL ) ....but there are some 76gas stations that have race gas as well as other gas stations that have race gas on pump
Same can be said about a car. Any "idiot" with the right amount of money can go as fast as he pleases. But no matter how much money you have, real skill is developed with time. Not all bikers can wheelie, even less can corner properly.
I aint going to lie here that Supra is freek'n fast as hell to be able to keep up with the GSXR1000. I love the sound of the super charger. No contest, but whoever worked on that car I give props.
@icecoldr1 I agree with you.. but you gotta understand 2 things 1-the price of the bike compared to the car. 2-Fun..Anyday racing a bike is much more fun.. you feel way more G's on a bike than a closed car...
wow that is one fast supra..... my cousin dropped a single into his 92 with a straight 6.... i cant wait to see what it can do, only problem is that our roads suck in manitoba, canada, long live freeways!
It really depends on the car. In most cases... at least for street purposes, manual's are faster. At least if the driver doesn't suck. This Supra did seem to shift pretty quick though
@FocusRS1991 ok, we are talking about production motorcycles that cost 13 grand. Anyone with a decent job can go to a local dealer and get one. Yet for some reason, people compare cars with 10s of thousands of mods, or in your case a limited run (25 planned for sale in the US at $190k!) car that nobody can get! The fact is that for a reasonable price, anyone who is not poor can buy a bike that rivals supercar performance. I'd rather go fast on a bike I can get than read about a car I can't.
The amount of fan boys on this video is amazing, comments such as '1000s are untouchable' 'only thing stoping me is fear'... I myself own an 04 gsxr 1000, supurb bike and a lot of fun.. but there are some VERY fast cars on the road. UGR. LMR. PSI. Titan. Boost logic. Not to be a fan boy myself but.. TT lambos. Big single turbo supra. Turbo corvettes. All well built and all beat 1000 like they are standing still. Experienced it. I want you to do yourself a favor. Type in TX2K ... Now please, stop being ignorant.
+Antonio Franklyn it was stock for awhile, then basic up grades, full yoshi, pc3, etc etc, got lowered and stretched, shinko rear, 9.8 at 138 with a 190lb rider.. cracked 10s never sprayed the bike at the track. few times racing with some friends. sold it to my cousin not to long ago, cute turbo kit on her now sorry it took me so long to respond... i just remembered i had this account
I'm not saying bikes aren't fast. However, bikes can be pulled on with extreme muscle cars. I've pulled on a 600 with my modded WS6, and my buddy pulled on a 1300 Busa with his TT GTO. Check out "twin turbo GTO racing Sportbikes"
As a motocycle instructor i suggest a 250-400 max i have seen whats to be seen i have seen a kid walk away from the course with his yellow card hop on his 600(was actualy a 700) and crash leaving the lot
@madfish70 I ride a CBR daily, and have no issue with it. The comfort issue makes people think they need to get cruisers though, when in fact, there are plenty of sport touring bikes that offer plenty of performance at a much greater comfort level then superbikes or supersports. I love my CBR and am thinking of an R1 next, so it's not an issue for me, but it is an issue that keeps a lot of people off of sportbikes.
raw power rarely matters, its all about weight to horsepower ratio. And i would love to see a car beat a turbo busa or a Y2k. First hand experience. My dads 1968 Javelin SST 343 V8 rated at a bit over 300hp weighs as much as a jeep wrangler vs a late 90's mustang cobra rated at close to or over 400hp. Javelin whooped the Mustang Cobra due to weight to horsepower ratio. Just my 2cents.
I agree with you. I raced an M6 from a roll, I was able to keep up with him but on turns I had to slow down and he kept going. I was surprised how fast the car was even from the roll start. I could not gain on him neither could he leave me behind on straight. Dead even. 95 Ninja 600cc. 60-150 mph race ;)
@2URBO2 You are right ! A fast bike needs much more a good rider than a fast car needs a good driver ! And each Biker can drive a car , but not each cardriver can ride a bike .(the most of them would kiss the ground on the first 10 feet , latest at the first corner !
@M2fiftycal That bikes do Nurburgring Bridge to Gantry which takes 30 seconds off their time when compared to cars like the Veyron, Porsche GT3 and Nissan GTR. The last time a bike did the same length track as these cars was in 1993 and that lap was 7.49. You can't reliably directly compare the times of bikes as they run only on public days with mixed traffic. Many of these car times are done on closed sessions. I'm on the side of truth and accuracy. I'm a motorcyclist and a car driver.
Enough!!! I've seen these car vs. bike races enough on here. Given they're entertaining to watch but just plain silly. Straightline the bike will ALWAYS win (Veyron excepted) but the car will out corner/brake the bike all day. It's two separate sensations to violently accelerate and feel your hands come ungripped from vs. having your head slam backwards and struggle to breath/lean forward in a powerful car. As an automotive/motorcycle enthusiast I thoroughly enjoy both.
@droceretik Well, thanks for educating me then. It's very hard to get objective data on car vs bike stuff as there's a lot of bias either way. They both have their strong points and weaknesses but people are so divided on this issue that it's hard to even have a reasonable discussion about it. Thanks for being civil.
@ajluv600 what are you talking about? I've seen some cars beat hayabusas, bikes do NOT always win in a straight, and bikes do not always lose in cornering. it takes an exceptional driver to take advantage of what advantages a car has in cornering. That's why your average drivers have to pull over to let bikes by on mountain roads.
Let's talk price. According to Suzuki website MSRP for the 2009 GSXR100 is $12,899(UNITED STATES DOLLARS!!!!). I was talking about brand new average bike not a Sale Deal you get online or anywhere cheap discount store. 8-10 grand is consider a deal for a 1000cc & probably a normal price for a 750cc. The U.S. dollar is the currency most used in international transactions. Several countries use it as their official currency, and in many others it is the de facto currency. Robbie is from Australia.
@CompTech323 You're arguing a different point... All I said is that there are many Supras that can beat a 1000cc bike. I wasn't speaking of the majority of them, and I'm well aware that those Supras than can need to have 700+rwhp to do so.
@Touchfair Actually i've seen a lot of races where the bike hits aboutt 180mph and the car pulls around him. Bikes are aerodynamic, but not as much as a Supra at high speed. The bike actually wants to lift a little instead of squat.
I was commenting on someone else's comments on the ZX10R, but inadvertently posted it as new rather than as a reply. He stated: "...and still have trouble with my 04 178hp ZX10R!" I asked this question because although my stock ZX10R dynos at about 162hp, it's amazing to me how many people on RU-vid talk about 200hp liter bikes right out of the showroom, when that simply isn't true. Basically, I was trying to catch him in a lie. :)
thanks for the comment... I own a 92 cbr 900 and every body tell me the same thing(why do you ride a bike it is so dangerous) well that s waths fun about it.... :-)
@FocusRS1991 oddly enough, I just saw the Top Gear where they raced a stock S1000rr against an Atom V8. The atom barely won in the last turn, and that was the fastest car they had ever tested. Bikes are awesome :)
trz1 exactly. He asked does the SUZUKI gsx have Vtec. Thats why I said 99% of Honda bikes don't even have it. the VFR800 is the first honda bike to ever have Vtec. Which is probably less than 1% of the bikes manufactured by Honda.
If you know how to shift you most definately can and can get more out of each gear, specially if you got a short throw kit. If your talking about a bike than it's almost instant shifting.(click, click.....
I know alot of you say "why does he even try", stuff like that but...I have a GSXR1k (K6), and any car that can even come close to keeping up with one is fucking fast. That Supra is nasty.
You can have as much power in a supra as you want but it's quite unlikely it can put that all power to the road. And the bike's power to weight is usually better (not necessarily in this case) but then again it can use most of its HP unlike a 1000hp Supra.
hey im with u, i replied to someone that said that motogp and f1 were similar in speed.. i for one dont watch f1 cause it bores the hell outa me, moto gp man here :) way way way more interesting than f1
I know you don't want to hear it, but even a 600cc is big for beginners. I was asking my friend who raced dirt bikes and has a CBR if I could get an r1 starting off, and he said hell no, even 600 is too much. he recommended a 250cc, which was really disappointing. but if you think about it, at first, if you mess up and pop the clutch accidently on a 1000cc, you can actually die, it's not about how careful you are. i know how you feel, i think the same, but it's better to get your bearings first
I love how people that race cars always are like well twin turbo it and it can win. Well then give the bike a turbo too and we'll see who wins then. Always gotta counter argue. Can't just strip the bike down and throw whatever you want onto a car and say you beat it fair and square
BS. My first bike was (and still is) a 1203 Buell cyclone with more torque than most street bikes out there. Just because the engine is massive doesn't make it a bad first bike. I had NEVER ridden a bike before and was on the freeway in Houston in a week. It's all about personal skill and confidence. Got a friend that won't even touch a 600, just because he doesn't feel confident enough. And there's nothing wrong with that. Get what feels good and ride responsibly.
you can get luggage to fit any bike. in fact, goldwings have about as much luggage capacity as my car, though goldwings are pretty much two wheeled cars these days.
Sorry dude. In the january issue of motorcycle magazine, They put a big turbo on a busa to try to break the 200 mph barrier. It gets to 180 a LOT FASTER but tops out at only 193. The bugatti does 253... You'd need another 60 mph
@droceretik I didn't say anything about the fastest bike or the fastest car. Obviously the Veyron is not the fastest, I was just comparing some stuff. So what is your point actually? All the info you told me was on wiki anyway, so..... I'm not sure what side of the discussion you are on.
@FocusRS1991 umm.... could you do me a favor and watch the clip again? If you'll notice, it wasn't the host in the car at the end of the clip. The Driver was Tiff Needell, who raced Formula 3 and British formula one after starting at the Brands Hatch racing school in the 70s. He raced off and on in the 70s and then in the early 80s to the mid 90s in Le Mans. He also was in the British Touring Car series in the mid 90s.... so yeah, you're wrong again.
I'll give the Supra some props, it's a fast car. I'm saying you could have bought 3 or 4 bikes for the amount of money spent on mods to make it "almost" as fast as a bike. 9 sec quarters, 40 mpg, and no wrenching required.
Don't get me wrong, Ducati makes one of the finest vehicles on the planet. And one day, I'd love to trade in my Gixxer for a Ducati. But you need to get your facts straight. Ducati wasn't even founded until 1926 and didn't start its bike production until 1950. Suzuki got into the game in '52, with Yamaha and Honda following suit in '58. Check out a show called "Twist the Throttle" on HDNet. They cover the histories of all the big bike companies. Fun Fact: Ducati originally made radios.
well in the case of BMW, Their paddle shifters are a little different. if you forget to shift up, it will do it for you. kind of lame in my opinion, but thats the case with the 325i
@FocusRS1991 Are you referring to Underground Racing's TT Gallardo? If so, it's a ZX14 in the video, made my Kawasaki, NOT a Hayabusa, which is made by Suzuki. It's also naturally aspirated, not turboed. Send me the link to your "busa vs TT" video, but bare in mind you're still taking about cars that cost well over ten times as much as these bikes.
To Robbie: GXXR do not cost 18-20K.....its only around 11K. Sebe1: If he falls going that fast, I think he has a lot more things to worry about that the missing gloves on his hands. Oh, yeah! that is one fast Supra. However, if you are in need of speed and not enough cash, just go with the bike but just be careful and be smart.
@FocusRS1991 I'd hardly call Tiff Needell an "amateur." He has tens of thousands of miles behind the wheel of a car and he also made an appearance in F1 in the 80's. It didn't last long but just to race with them is an accomplishment. Your point is still moot because the atom still costs more than TEN times as much as the BMW does. Listen, I love cars more than bikes, they're more practical, but saying that cars are faster than bikes is silly. Once the car is quicker, it'll hardly be a car.
It was only one ducati brother who left to start a radio company using his name, but never has the Ducati that we know today ever made radios. Sorry but yamaha has made recorders and flutes haha.
Thats one fast Supra. The bike should be quicker as its just basically an engine with two wheels. If it wasnt faster then youd really worry and there wouldnt really be much point in having a bike in the first place.
What good is muscle if it's never flexed, it'd do you bikers some good to have a challange. And thank you so much for trying to point something out to me in a video that I know more about then you do. The rider was legit (friend) and Garth "legitly" beat him, it was a bridge to bridge race somewhaere in CA. The bike/car thing is also a non issue for me which is why I prefer cars that can beat bikes and still be drivable day to day. Never said anything about hating bikes...
@aCBRridaDUCATIdreama Ah man I want to get out to the track sometime, still never been. When i got my first bike I was thinking about getting the 250r, But I didn't want to grow out of it too quickly. So I opted for a 2006 636 and have been riding it for the last 2 years.
Agreed, but let me clarify exactly what I'm talking about. Most STOCK cars (so I'm excluding 800hp M3's, 600hp Sti's/Evo's, John Hennesey Vipers, etc) and saying a STOCK Murcielago, a STOCK, Supra, a STOCK most cars will lose to a bike in a straight line. I do however agree that most people (myself included) cannot exploit even 6 tenths of what a high powered car or bike can offer.
