GT7: The Secret to FREE Grip: Camber Explained 

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Nicely done, Tuning is what I found the most hassle thing to do in GT7 as not everyone is a setup master (just let me have some fun LOL). Road cars are pain to set up and if not done correctly feels like boats. Hate how suspension set up affects the PP rating, especially when it doesn't translate to a good setup characteristically.

Adjusting the front camber angle to a slightly higher negative camber angle helps out more of the outside front tyre on the track and allow higher corner entry speeds and accuracy through corners. Keeping a lower negative angle at the rear helps keep more tyre on the road and improve acceleration on exit. I try to find the sweet spot for each using the specs section of the tuning page. Many of mine that I have dialled in will have camber numbers like 1.8-2.4 front and 0.8-1.9 rear with toes of 0.08-0.18 out at the front and 0.10-0.24 in at the rear. This is based on overall performance but dictated by how they do in the green hell. I urge anyone to try these sorts of numbers and see how they go. I find they make a huge difference

Wow, that’s a huge difference! I always have problems in that last corner aswell.

Just binged 3 of your videos and they're so well made and explained, good job man! I'm actively trying to get better at GT7 but haven't really gotten into the tuning too much just because I don't fully understand all the settings, but your vids have really given me the confidence to go in and just try stuff. For some cars it just feels like they won't turn no matter when I brake, so I'm definitely trying both the camber and the LSD stuff asap. Thank you!

Thank you for this video. Ive been having a hard time tuning my GT3RS. I cant wait to get home and try this out.

Great content. Really appreciate you helping me understand this. I think this is one of the more important videos.

Man you are on point in your videos of late. GREAT JOB MATE!!

thank you thank you thank you!!!!! i was so frustrated with the m6 and with your information i can handle this beast and drive a decent noob time ❤️

Wow, this is so helpful. Had no idea to reference the stuff on the left side. Thanks

Thank you .... a complete tuning noob ... this was extremely helpful ... subscribed and will go through your content ... wonderful content Kudos

Great content Chris, highly informative 👌

Adjust suspension from top to bottom. It's in a specific order for a reason. Watch the stability and rotational G force change as you adjust. There is an optimal setting for every car but I believe it all starts with the ride height and roll bars.

Thanks mate. These vids are invaluable. Could you cover suspension settings next? I feel like it's the final piece of the puzzle for me.

Good video and information. Definitely deserve more subs.

Chris, this video is perfect for tuning numpties like me. Ermin Hamsandwich has referred (and linked) to it, too. Ur a legend. Thankyou.

Subscribed! Looking forward for more videos. Is weird how game is set with the need so little camber. Usually 2.5 is what i run on my track impreza and that made for me a big difference in how agile was the car to turn in tho corners.

Your content is superb mate, thanks!

Yes!! This is what I need to dial in my gr3 corvette

Would like to see more about this and the relationship with toe angle! I have found that uneven camber angle works well sometimes like having more in the rear to deal with oversteer.

This is a great series Chris and highly valued, thank you so much for doing this for us. 🙏❤ If you are curious as to why I am so late to This post, it is because I didn't receive a notification, it is an anomaly, but I will ofcourse let you know if it happens again. Like deployed 👍 😎🎙🏎✅

Plotting the data on a graph definitely helps find the best setting. I have that same car and set the rear camber to about 0.3-0.5 and the front to about 2. Unless you are turning at very high speeds, which is very unlikely, you dont need the camber to be so low. 1.5-2.5 up front works great. Also dont forget the corvette has ideal weight distribution. Try setting up an awd car or mid engine car and camber affects it differently.

My second vid of yours that I've found incredibly helpful, thank you man, I'm trying to dial in the Gr3 GTR at Bathurst so I can learn to tune actual racecars. Most of my time in gt7 is spent in drift builds so I know how to tune them but not normal cars.

We just tried your suggestions on camber and lsd with a Gr3 mazda pp 768 (Australian supercar spec 652 hp). They improved the car greatly thanks. We also found on a 30 lap x1 trye wear test at Bathurst that the wear was better than we expected. With improved performance we expected increased tyre wear but the wear virtually the same.

I've gotten rather decent at setting up tunes. Had a buddy over who doesn't game, but bought my dad's camaro ss and is fully building it, but complained soo much about the in game models handling. Tuned the suspension a bit and was miles ahead better.. thanks for the tips Daughty 👍

Nice video, good explaining

Front 2.5 rear 1.0 need more on the front along with some toe out to help grip, on rear need less as it affects acceleration also each car is different

Nice vid Chris x

Great video. I would love a video that walks through the order of adjustments you take. For example, do you start with the diff, then ride height, then compression, etc. Or do you start with a part of the suspension first?

My little Tip for ff Cars: front 0.5 rear 3.0 -for me it makes me faster:) Great Videos from You !!

nice vid, good information. Thanks

Great video. I have a couple of cars that try to snap the back end when accelerating out of corners. Gonna have a play around with the cambers. I'll edit when I've tried

I think camber and toe are the two most important suspension settings. Getting them right together --- another story of itself. I did manage to get a Miata on GT4 to handle like a slot car at one point.

Nice one Chris mate, im off to get a notepad out!

Thanks for the tip

Beautiful content man wow

AC also by default imho uses too much camber for the most part. Especially in the back of the car. You really have to have a lot of g-force going on or body roll for it to be effective…and for the really twisty tracks “some” camber can be useful. However, I think drivers get lost in the looks and not in the actual physics. They end up using so my camber, they’re losing traction on corner exit as there is less tire on the tarmac.

Hi mate, watched this video last night and took what you've shown and applied it to 4 problem cars of mine. Shelby GT350, 89 Fairlady, Viper GTS and 81 Porsche 911. Each car felt loose under acceleration and cornering, to a point where they're undriveable. Your advice has pretty much made each of the above cars almost perfect in grip. With the exception of the 911 (still a bit loose), so thanks again and keep up the great work. Will you be doing a video on the stability part of tuning? Thanks.

Interesting to see the graph plot but that is only at a particular ride height, spring rate, and toe angle. These other factors will affect lateral G in combination with the camber at slightly different angles. It would be interesting to see how each of those relate to each other on a graph...

The most honest video on RU-vid today 🤣

Camber is "supposed" to work with the anti roll bars and spring rate (and ride height, downforce etc.). Maybe worth trying mixing arb and camber with a graph? GT7 may be too simplistic though.

Thing is, in real life, slick tires don't work well if you don't change the camber. So if the GT7 model is anything like the real thing, you should do this experiment for every tire again and again. And for every car. But thanks, I will test a bit with it.

Don't forget that if you lower or raise ride height you also change the camber & toe angle so once you've adjusted ride heights you might need to check the camber & toe

Big THX for your Vid(s). Can you also make suspension video? ;)

Interesting I tried this on a R32 I built and it really helps. Which is interesting since my camber is normally a staggered set up of -2 up front -1.5 rear

Definitely will try this out now with Camaro SS ‘16, mine is very understeery and not really sure about the supercharge option I chose was the high mid-high rpm one, it seemed like the it’s got extreme boost at mid-high rpm, only, and it makes coming out of the corner with back oversteering

Came across this by accident and it’s been a happy accident. I knew what cambers did, but didn’t really have a working knowledge with gt7 on getting them to work in any capacity that I stopped bothering. Will be giving them another try.

man thanks for your lesson!!!!

Camber makes the tire ride on the edge of the tread. This can drastically change the size and shape of the contact patch. More contact in a turn, but less in a straight line. Another point is yhe roll of the car. Reduce that as well with roll bars. Then fine tune with resonance. This may cause you to change camber as well in order to be in the sweet spot for specific tracks.

Great vid.

Hey Doughtinator. I think that those camber setting are ok. But if you don't change the toe angle then, I think that the car will slip. Can you try that and maybe see how that works? Just asking. Great video. Have a great weekend.

Many thanks.

How does one know what the proper rotational g is supposed to be? Great video, btw

Okay, I forgot to mention using from the comments in the weight distribution video that I was Driving: McLaren 650S GT3 ‘15 Whale tail I “think” was already there. RS Trial Mountain Alright, the weight adjustment was the same, and I did change the ride height before this, but I will let my buddy do a video on that. I did Camber all the way to 6 and it seemed alright until you hit sharp turns, and a little understeer would happen. (2:00.444) I turned Camber down to 0.5 and there was confident steering, and even less noise than when you add weight (Silent). Sharp turns were no problem and you almost didn’t to shift. I believe this the difference between winning or losing when you go up the ladder…besides your driving ability. (1:59.183) That difference doesn’t seem like much, but that’s the difference of seeing your opponent in the rear view mirror, or not at all on the final turn….when you are almost at the finish line. Consider that before you turn your noses up. My buddy here wins again. I am not sure whether to do braking next, or LDS. I’ll do some more thinking, and decide. …. Just figured it out….again! Braking

A fat thank you from Ermin Hamsandwich

hey good video. Bu what about Stability in the setup menu? When you put it from 0.5 to 6 Low speed went from -0.43 to -0.40. So maybe it's also an indication of what to expect?

Question: does that lateral Gs graph apply to every car or just the Corvette?

So the rational G is the amount of Gs where the tyres start to lose traction and therefore tune the camber (negative) as efficient as possible to the suit the track. I would imagine high speed corner with benefit with high negative camber and low speed with low negative camber.

The pieces are slowly falling into place. Good tip !

I wonder how much the weight of the vehicle, where the ballast is, spring frequency pushing down, aero, tires, etc all works in that equation. Btw, I found out that the less force on the tires, the lower grade you need (spring freq). I was driving a 350 with race tires and skidding all over. I switched to sport and then it handled fine. Also, I wonder if force applied to the tires (suspension, average/top speeds, torque, etc) influence the type of tire you use. Meaning, if you’re not putting down the power, or applying force on the tires that would theoretically heat them up, the race slicks down do bag.

Thx

could you please make a vid on how to fix spinning out? when accelerating out a corner or just in general. I have cars like the BMW M4 and aston martin db11 that just handles like crap and spin out so easily yet I love these cars so much irl.

IMHO, GT7's plans to show wind direction and speed only assist the F-1 group,where TRACK TEMP for all would be a totally more usefull tool.GPL allowed tire temps to rule the setups, and IT worked there.This comes from 30 years of real life racing,bikes,cars,and Bonneville.

This is the part that I hate about GT7, too much info when it comes to car settings, I want to be a sim racer, not a sim mechanic/tuning specialist. Thanks for your help.

I haven’t done enough test on GT7. Rule of thumb on GTS was your camber was always higher depending on drivetrain. FR, MR cars would have a slightly higher setting on rear camber and FF 4wd slightly higher on the front. Some MR & 4wd cars would benefit from even camber

im struggling with Subaru 22b tuning can u make one? i have set to 0 on both camber and toe if i try anything to these settings the car go oversteer in and out of corners i tuning for Nürburgring nordschlife at 670pp currently i am at 6. 47 time trial with lots of mistakes on racing soft tyres. i know the car can do better plz help

Can you make a setup for the FXX-K pls? It understeers alot but I can't find the perfect balance between understeer and snap-oversteer.

Omg how do you turn on these additional numbers?! It looks like you can completely setup the gearing from this menue?

why the setting sheet is locked for some cars such as Audi R8 Evo when playing arcade race resulted in gear ratio can't be adjusted?

Now what about braking and straight line acceleration? Do those start to suffer with increasing camber angles?

Hi how about doing a video on different power parts comparison and find out what is best for lets say 600 pp or 650 pp and son on. i raced today on Nürburgring nord and i hade audi r8 with best upgrades at 650 pp and there was racers who were flying by me on straights and i was getting up to 270 km or so. then one of my friend said use normal brakes disk and pads that will give you extra pp and i did yes braking was not so good but on my 2nd lap i got use to where to brake and i got 280+ top speed and went from doing 7.57 lap to 7.52

While this is free grip IRL in GT7 it's not because it changes the PP

In real life it definitely makes a giant difference in the game so far it depends on the car. R34 can't get that to ever get grip no matter what I put on it

HOW DID YOU SETUP THAT GRAPH?? PLEASE AND THANKS......SETTING THE LSD RIGHT WILL HELP ALOT TOO

The rotational G doesn’t work for a front wheel drive I’ve tried I have to be on track to see what works

+ after logbooks an missions all your doing is grinding repeatedly for new cars. I like pc2 better still, but I do like gt7 graphics

What do I need to buy to control the traction control I want 0 but it's set to 3 by default and I can't change it

You only tested symmetrical camber? Or did you test all combinations?

When does toe angle come into play? 🤔

Hey, i know that this is already an old video, but i need a hand with tuning for a particular car. *The Ferrari P4.* It was probably the best vintage car i've ever driven on every GT, but now a friend of mine bought it on GT7 and said that it was an awful car to drive. I couldn't believe that PD ruined that marvelous car! Could you try to give that car a good setup to at least make it drivable?

Audi r8 lms . The camber is on6 . I lowered them and it made the car worse . Why?

Interesting

Tbh i would have liked to see your laps with 0° of camber too

just tried this Nov '23 and it doesn't affect any of the 'G' forces, think they might of changed it 😞

What drives me nuts is that they know everyones been trying to drag race sense day one of all GT’s and we still don’t have slicks and a course that has a drag strip and tire pressure setting…. I mean we have every other type of racing on here why not add it to the game because their is no good drag racing games for PlayStation players….

with a setting of 6 on camber only half of the tire is working thus the lack of breaking and grip

having tuning option but BOP applied on races hahahaha 😂

Makes 0 sense, because gt3 cars in real life run almost 4 degrees of camber. It should make way more grip with 4 degrees camber

The vette are stable even at 0.0 0.0 camber🤷🏼‍♂️ but it's ok.

I wish I understood a single thing you just said.

It is like in ACC, same shit

Camber should be based mostly on the frequency of high-speed corners... So for example a track like Monza is going to have very little camber as there's only one turn that can be considered high speed.... And Monza also has around three heavy brake zones where you need your wheels to be very flat and very little camber. And in acceleration zones where you need non cambered rear wheels to get maximum traction....Compare that to at track like Mugello, which has very few hard braking zones, but many turns that could be considered medium to high speed so in a track like that you're going to want to have more camber. So it's really track related not so much car related

Doesn't really help on online racing cause u can adjust anything

Love to read the comments looks like u dont like anyone who disagrees with u all your comments singing from the choir book.

it'll be so nice by polyphony, to let us know, whats beeing simulated , so that we don't have to mythbust the physics 😑

Well you are driving a Corvette. Those cars handle like shit. Try the same ride with a vehicle which has shorter wheel base in the game. Maybe the GR Supra.

WOW after 20 years someone discovered Hot water, This was the "trick" used already from GT2, YES Gran Turismo 2, to make high horse power cars easy to drive. So I got it right just by looking at the game that they are still giving the same soup, but You Sony people are blind. Oh how much I love Forza Motorsport!!

gran turuismo is such a fucking joke. i regret buying it tbh. even forza fucking 3 had telemetry. you can see suspension travel, tire temps, body damage..... eveything. you cant even get a fucking side view of your car in this stupid game. touted as the best car simulation for true motoring lovers, they cant even get the basics down and then they turn around and nuke the race rewards

This game sucks the way it is , you can’t even have fun races spin out every corner

SO I GUESS NONE OF THIS APPLIES NOW SINCE ITS A WAY NEWER UPDATE....????