GTR vs Neon SRT-4 : Did Universal Make the Right Decision? 

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That’s true except for the part where you made the car fast.

2000s weren't about fast, it was about looking and sounding cool

Some cars were fast. Very few. Most were just loud. All that noise, and going nowhere. Once there were cars sounding like a weed eater, I was done. Sounds like such shit. Gimme a mustang with an xpipe and flowmasters all day.

Jason Curtis how original a mustang

What time on the video?

@Mario They might've had modified transmissions, but you don't see them in the movies - it's been explained in this video that they use a body shell to simulate interior shots.

@@ToyotaSPRINTERTRUENO1986kouki Yea they modified them with 2 speed rearends & 19 speeds out of a Peterbilt Trucks. Didn't you see the Jake brakes too?!!? 😂 🤘🤪

@@ToyotaSPRINTERTRUENO1986kouki I kidd I kidd, just joshing ya!! 😘😁

Can't believe I read this comment just at 7:20

I'm glas that didn't happen just because I like Neons.

that would have actually been hilarious

Never gonna happen. Breaking Bad made the Pontiac Aztek infamously popular again, but you don’t see people rushing to buy that clunker.

@@TEDdotcom Neon is actually a decent car tho.

@Whiterun Guard: yes they’re decent cars, much better than the ill fated Dart, but there’s never going to be a big demand for it.

Lmao now the GTR is worth over 80 grand for a 99-02

I knew that GTR was special even before I got into cars. 👌🏻

SyntheticSRT river boys xD (I’m guessing auto correct)

@@connoisseuroftigolbitts because Americans are willing to pay high ass prices. Stupid shit

Kevin M I don’t think so ,neon a piece of shit

@@AwayV2 i have seen the prelude.....,🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄bro just now the car is black.....eith different wheels but still same bodykit and wing . Its new owner will restore it back to its movie condition... Craig said it....listen more carefully

Would love to see body kits again.

@@user-fo1ow1jq3b whats so bad about slamming your car and adding ridiculous camber?

@@kodakreeeam9971 yea, like re-amemiya for rx-7, and bn sport for silvia.

n Still better than putting all that useless audio equipment

@@kodakreeeam9971 stance is good unless you use it for the right reasons or you do it just right,but honestly I don't care

Haukur Thor Smárason No one even knew they existed until this movie came out

@@arvinxiong5607 well that's just not true. Plenty of people knew about them. I saw it first in 1998 and fell in love with it.

@@arvinxiong5607 WTF?

OJ either he made i typo or saw a concept for it and saw potential in it.

Being in charge of vehicles, he had little to do with location scouting.

@Umar IFL Umar The millions of fans who literally fly to CA just to take pics in front of the house and the people who drive their cars and take pics in front of it everyday. It's as much a part of the franchise as the cars.

@Umar IFL Umar They've done interviews and whole documentaries on the house and its previous owners.

Auto Young people don’t choose vacations just for the house they are already in the area so they take a picture

@@mrhoa1237 Bullshit. I know plenty of people and have seen plenty of people make that trip SPECIFICALLY to go see that house and all of the other filming locations from the movie. Anything else is an afterthought. YOU may not go but don't you say what other people don't do or haven't done...

First thing that comes to my mind is that green Hulk Volkswagen in tokyo drift. One of the worst cars in the movie.

Yeah that eclipse was horrible but the car was picked out by universal during a product placement deal and the graphics were picked out by Tyrese

🤣🤣🤣

lol

Oh god no

tHe sRT 4 iS a tRaCk MoNSter gReAteSt oF aLl tIMe

This makes my head hurt so bad haha

I've seen your comment and my video was at 6:42

Its the production company that has a 76 million dollar budget for the movie buying these not Joe Smoe... lol

But still back then the R34 was still a fairly new car. So most wouldn't of depreciated as much.

@@TheHiyy And that's called a tight budget in Hollywood standards.

Back then there was no way of knowing how collectible and expensive R34’s were going to become.

coz he works in hollywood my dude

Because some young'uns make it seem as if 480p footage is unwatchable. I dont mind it at all

Imagine a kid that is, let's say 15 today that has been watching almost at most in his/her life hd (1080p, 4k) videos or games and we show him/her a early 2000 and what was supposed to be hd. It might not seem a big difference to us considering that we've used to see movies at low "resolution" but to them it is.

Hes a movie guy hes used to top end quality

CRAPO2011 I’m fifteen and think it’s hilarious how much they complain about that stuff. Truly pathetic.

Cinemasins can't read, lol

Most people have always assumed it was 160mph. At least from my experience

@@user-fo1ow1jq3bhe maybe recalibrated the speedometer to mph. But that seems like a stretch.

Why you gotta use bold?? Ain't nobody else doin that...especially for a dumb opinion. Go sit in the corner and have a time-out for a little bit.

@@rickfeith6372 So you're one of those people and you're offended? lol

So... how is that "a rough one"

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No car payment is nice eh

Honestly and why do people hate them so much?

@@zerotyron2142 There American. And don't have Awd. The SRT4 was the fastest fwd compact Of that era. Yet ppl still make fun of it..

@@WindyCity1992 Dodge actually claimed that the SRT4 was the fastest car in the world for under $20,000 from 2003, to 2005. Apparently, for the money, there was nothing on the road that was faster at that time.

@@Mortimusmoose Lol sounds like the Hellcat

They had the reliability, and build quality of a Nike shoe made by a hungry child laborer after a 72-hour shift at 3 a.m in the morning...

I know the answer to this. Fuck I heard it in a Donut Media video I think... if I remember I’ll come back.

Mona lis15

No.

Paint job looks so familiar though, I think it was featured in Need for Speed Underground during the tutorial for drag racing

Shawn Blindauer u right it was in the Cut scenes also

Sucks that Amazing Car was the Player's Car in NFS: U1, until Caleb wrecked it with his Hummer.

do u have clearer images of the bmw it looks cool af

Why? An evo is a better car in every way though.

@@ce9aftw713 I don't know about "In every way", from what I can tell (not that I've driven either but I assume most uf us haven't) the only thing the Evo has over the SRT4 is that the Evo is AWD. The SRT4 easily could have kept up with the Eclipse the Evo co-starred with.

Both cars shared their non turbo 2.0L engines. The SRT4 was definitely not a poseur chassis wise, and tore ass better than anything FWD had a right to - is its turbo engine related to the 4G63 at all?

@@nthgth Its basically more related to the 2.4L in a Stratus, etc. than the 4G63. You can actually build a Stratus engine up to the equivalent of the SRT4 engine. DCR (Darrell Cox Racing) has actually taken the SRT4 engine over 1,200whp, and theyll sell you all the parts to do so. Engine wise, it's just as buildable as the 4G63, but still remains FWD....and unless they were custom ordered, all SRT4s came as 5-speed. They aren't bad cars at all, even the 1st gen Neons were great for SCCA racing.

Someone who tracked an Neon SRT-4 wouldn't lol

@Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nur R34 '02 Source?

Balto D facts yo I agree with that it’s one of the first affordable srt car but still it’s nothing like a GTR

The SRT4 definitely deserved screen time. These days the Skyline R34 isn’t even as intimidating as it used to be. Too much competition today. Golf R, Focus RA, Civic type R, STI, Hellcats etc

@@jasontodd9302 considering it's over 20 years old now it's still impressive. Like how the McLaren f1 is amongst super cars

n it’s impressive. Just not intimidating like it use to be.

@@eldios3666 stage 3 SRT4, same 0-60. for hm less $?

There’s been way crazier cars found in the states

It would never be sitting on a random lot very illeagle for a normal dealer to sell a 34 still even

Yup..shudda been a Viper. Far more bang for the buck and actually..not as rare as a 3 horned, albino frikkin unicorn.

@@relate97 Except not really, and certainly not cars not federally legal unless exempt under an exception like the 25 year rule.

The_Doctors_Tardis It’s not a documentary, dude. And you think that’s more bull crap than a Nitrous powered ejection seat????

Found your channel a few days ago. I was so surprised to see your project mentioned in here. You're getting famous!

Because he is the protagonist and that's an r33 not an r34. Your comment is invalid sir. Also you only speak for the FnF fanboys, anyone with a wealth of car knowledge loved gtrs well before the movies. Just look at the r32 back in it's rally days! Unreal I tell you.

@@user-fo1ow1jq3b r32 is the real godzilla

Yeah for real I might actually be able to think about affording one then. Now I can't even think it I can barely dream it lol.

Christian but then you would of never wanted it

What ? It still wouldve been realllllly popular.

Christian But then Neons would be expensive and those were way more affordable in the first place.

​@@communistpootisbirb You completely missed the point...

yes i think, it's just a little mistake he doesn't mean it.

I thought it was used in a small clip from Fast 5 when Hobs meets Brian and Dom at a parking lot full of street racers while someone else was putting a tracker under the Gurkha.

@@Vin80_ I think that was the Porsche that Dom won for Brian before Hobbs met Dom and Brian at the street race.

Nah the Porsche was with the Charger, not the Skyline.

there's room for both in the films. & ok..no SRT4 for Paul..so a flat out ban? lol retards.

Mario “The SRT4 is just fugly. Looks like a Subaru.” I’m sorry..... *what?* .... Excuse me? ..... *EXCUSE ME!?!?!?* no..... *_excuse you_* how the *FUCK* does a sentence like that even come out of an actual human being’s mouth? go to google images right fucking now and just type in “22b sti” better yet why not just type in “Colin Mcrae 22b” ok? Go type in “Subaru BRZ tS” actually no type in “Subaru BRZ STI” and look at the front end of that motherfucker.... ok now on google images type in _”SRT4 Neon”_ better yet just type in _”Dodge Neon”_ how in the *_FUCK_* is there even remotely a correlation there, visually, physically. There is none. Nothing’s the same. One is a riced out FWD shitbox, while something like a 22b looks/is an AWD fucking rally icon driven by some of the biggest names in rally racing history like Colin McRae, and Richard Burns. Do you know what that’s like? Fucking John Madden has NFL Games named after him.... Colin Mcrae, and Richard Burns have rally games named after them except instead of being a coach they fucking _competed_ and SUBARU is the thing that ties them together. Someone that would DARE compare literally one of if not the biggest names in Motorsport history especially in rally with a fucking dodge neon deserves to have fucking eggs thrown at them in public. I thought when I read that “that has to be a fucking joke” but no one in their right mind would make a joke so fucking ignorant and low, it might almost be worse than making a holocaust joke, because at least a holocaust joke is a form of dark humor ya know, humans try to make light of things that they are afraid of, people derive forms of comedy from fear. This? Is just fucking unacceptable. Subaru is still one of the only ones still in the game, keeping the manual transmission alive, while the Dodge Charger never came in a manual neither did the demon, but you can still get a manual STI, hell you can still get a manual legacy, or outback. You should be ashamed.

I hate convertible ecplise and all eclipse

Minh Luu He's right ya know.

I think it's because they had a deal with Mitsubishi to use their cars as the hero cars and since Paul had the Evo then Tyrese didn't really have an option.

I'm pretty sure I heard the same from the "making of" section from Fast2.

Unscripted

Always wondered about that. Looked real

It was unscripted so they just added it in the movie because it was so real

Crazy1speed damnn for real? I always thought there was something different about that scene, it’s always stuck out to me. Partly because at that point in my life I was playing Gran Turismo 3 and the Cobra SVT was my favorite car and it was actually in the movie.. and then it got brutally destroyed.

Not just because it's a Skyline... It was Paul's car in Fast & Furious. A regular R34 will probably cost $80k, which is still crazy.

@Keynesian Economics 2024 can't get here soon enough in that regard. I wonder if you can import a year or so early and just garage it. I know the demand is going to be idiotic.

Keynesian Economics last year, a completely stock M-Spec Nür (in millennium jade) with 30,000 miles on it was imported over for auction. All I know was that the starting bid was £200,000, and there was a lot of interest in it. Don’t know how much it sold for though.

Is it safe to say it's mainly the rarity, not the F&F franchise, that explains these high values? (And being in good condition, etc)

@Keynesian Economics "Desirability is such a critical factor when determining the value of cars." Yep, that's why I said it's crazy. It's an awesome car, but it's a legend because of these movies. Without them, I'm not sure it would be as popular, especially here in the US.

Agreed, an evo isn’t a bad second car but it was hard to get excited when he was just driving the GTR.

Michael Delarosa They didn’t even make the EVO look that nice... compared to the evo in Tokyo drift. Skyline would have been a EASY orgasm for 2Fast2Furious, it’s just Roman needed to have a car that would keep up with the GTR cause that eclipse wouldn’t 😂😂👋🏼

Justin Rodriguez lol it’s Hollywood. What would’ve been better was to give Roman the EVO and have Brian keep the Skyline.

Kevin Santos ikr

HugPugs I am. About one per week.

Adelan L For a turd.

Idk man.....the SRT 4 weighs a lot less than a Supra. And the engine could make a shit ton of power to haul ass

Dude, it's not a quarter mile race, also have you seen 1/4 mile supras? I know you can make SRT4's hella fast, but the supra is a whole different monster...

2jz will crush everything! RB will have oil pump failure like they are renowned for and by parked up just after xmas tree😂😂

@@norbertorodriguez1805 have you seen 1/4 mile SRT 4? These cars are known to slay

Of course I've seen em, also the time attack SRT4's... Idk man... I just think that the GTR VS SUPRA rivalry is a more suitable option for the movie...

Yup, that's where I learned more about them at the time. Also learned that my Supra would always destroy them too lol.

The eclipse?

n think he’s talking about the light greenish-blueish colored R34 sitting in the used car lot during the prelude to 2Fast 2Furious which connected the ending scene of the first film to the changes that started off the second film. The R34 that Brian pays cash for at the lot and takes it street racing to earn more cash to then modify it to the fit of the second movie

Ah I see. I can't say I've seen the prelude in all honesty

n you should watch it. It’s on RU-vid

It was one of the Stunt cars. Craig has said a few times he’s not exactly sure which one

What about Sean's Monte Carlo?

@@alexbenjaminlubbers That car doesn't have a special part in the movie like the Charger does

@@alexbenjaminlubbers Oh I loved that Monte Carlo :D

@@CanadaBud23 Was sad to see that monster die

I'm a Muscle girl, the Yenko kicked the R34 down from #1 for me

Some part of the awesomeness is the sound and look which is totally separate from the quarter mile and lap times - and for me, more important. Overall feel of having and driving it is what it's about.

HighOctaneMeme 😅

13.4 is the fastest recorded time for a bone stock srt4 with stage 3 cars going into low 11's with a warranty

@@Redmerkur 'with a warranty!' not a maxed out, ready to pop apart, tuned to frik mobile. R34's, geez, all the myth makes them seem like auto gods or something. they go 060 in 4.6 for hm $$$? Damm. Viper smokes 'em bad. btw, you can tune a Viper, ..if you can handle up to or north of 1,000 hp. you all commenting on this thread against Dodge ain't got the cojones!

kammann1980 I’m well aware. It wasn’t about performance stats as much as it was about desirability. SRT4s never matched the popularity of GTRs, Integras and cars like the Eclipse. Look at the sales numbers of these cars.

I'll give ya that mr Lieberman, the srt4s belong in a small niche of American tuner class. Just saying for the 20-21k price they were nasty quick. I currently own a pretty sharp low mileage 04

@@craiglieberman I'm pretty sure that would change if Paul Walker had raced in an SRT4.....or the 3000GT (actually it was a Stealth) he had in the backstory for the 2nd movie. I have 3 3S cars right now, but if that had been a hero car....I wouldnt be able to do anything but continue wishing I had one. If you had used, say....a 98 Geo Metro or something....fine....no one wouldve watched the movie.

Brian drives by a green-ish building that's shown in the shot before the cop shoots the Skyline with the esd. It did look like a green screen, but they weren't that careless

wait they are?

theres this funny thing called exporting! people from all over the world hear a certain car is for sale. contrary to what americans think people in other parts of the world have money and lots of it. some of these peope may want that car and are willing to pay big bucks to not only buy it but bring it home

@@jackass123455 im not American but ya i was just surprised to hear that i kinda thought they would still be owned or some of them at least by pauls family

Most people who buy them are oversea....

@@memphischalmers1644 paul's family lol universal is interested in the moolah

From the window to the wall.

The blue version with mods definitely remind me of the R34 from Underground 2.

I was hoping someone would bring that up. It really does look similar

sort of agree..but Dodge wouldv'e sold more of them, too. tbh, there's enough retards out there smashing them up, smh. Vipers, too. the other great car missing from this film series.

@@tomj4406 There are several cars that are conspicuously absent, but I suppose they could only include so many. IIRC, there was a Viper in the "audition" chase scene in 2F2F, along with the other two modern American cars of the entire franchise (to my recollection), a C5 Corvette and New Edge Mustang that we all hope wasn't a real Terminator in its final shot.

@@nthgth yeah, that's true. I'm not familiar with that 'Stang? & I'd sign off on the 'no SRT4' deal, if i could reshoot part of 'Fast1'. As in..the single spin burnout Dom's SC Hemi Charger does (Huh? Good luck getting a wheelstand out if it!) and the whole quarter mile fiasco of a race between Dom & Brian. Lol..the fizzle that idk wth part that is under the Chargers engine, the shot where Dom extended looks at Brian at 120+ mph in town..bc suicidal and almost does die?! The kooky/blurry, drug induced looking shot where time/space is being warped or something, idk.. And..use a real supercharged 900 hp 426 Hemi charger (probs could've had the mill donated by a big engine shop for a promo/shout out, a stock A-833 4 spd, Dana 60 with superstock leaf springs would fill the drive line bill), doing a real wheelie, not the special fx hydraulic, car liftie thing.

@@tomj4406 I'm not that knowledgeable about drag racing musclecars but it sounds like you sure are. Maybe all that stuff would've cost so much it would've made practical effects less practical than special effects, lol. Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure the Mustang was a convertible, so I think it couldn't have been a Terminator anyway (in real life it was probably a V-6), in the movie it ended up ridiculously crushed by a tractor trailer

@@nthgth They like to demolish cars! lol..fortunately, most..especially in recent yrs, have been 'lost cause' cars that are fixed up to be just presentable enough, before singing their swan song. I srsly doubt the Yenko Camaro in 'Fast2' was a real car they wrecked in the jump to the yacht! But yea, gotta wonder hm $ the special effects wheelie cost compared to getting a free or discounted engine that'd pull the front tires up? Thnx for the compliment..I know a lil bit, I'm no expert. All this typing is making me want to watch 2F2F! Watched movie 1 a couple weeks ago, had been awhile, amazing how young the cast was then, wow. So F9 is out soon? Wonder how old they'll Have Brian Torreto as? & ..hb a cameo of an old, battle damaged, oil burning & rusted SRT4? AHAHAHAA!!

kendal Would. Never. Happen.

Yeah that thing was shit

somewhere..sometime..blacklisted the best budget hotrod since the 340 Duster! fools, lol.

StaakeM Yup. You can get pretty close.