Thank you, this cleared up some confusion (location of the Double Track effect) I had in your ADT video. I now have some more distractions in my life - screwing around with different tracking 🤪
Hey bud....I use a stereo pitch effect, set the intervals to 0 so it plays only your played note but adjust the 2 cent parms to plus 7 and minus 7...see what you think
Ooh, interesting! I'll have to try that. I've played with pitch for double tracking a little bit before but didn't manage to get something I liked. Maybe, to quote The Mandalorian, "This is the way." Thanks Slim!
To reduce the "artifacts" with the Double Take reduce the "slop" and "sensitivity" settings. I've run the DT with #2 on the Doubles, with 1 and 1 on both slop and sensitivity. Seems to clean up some of the artificial noises.
Thanks for that tip. I think I usually run the slop and sensitivity quite low but probably not as low as 1. I have a strange aversion to 'extreme' settings, haha. I'll have to try your 1+1 tip. Thanks!
@@ProFunctionist Any preset that is .hlx should work on the Full Helix and LT. The only issue is when someone with a HX Effects or HX Stomp tries to load a patch designed to be used on the full Helix or LT which has double DSP paths and more capabilities. The LT is the same as the Full Helix Floor just doesnt have all the I/Os but has the same Dual DSP as the big brother :P
with the simple delay merge points does it clean up better adjusting the volume or reducing the panning to 75% or even 50%? i'll have to try the double take with the settings ben burnett mentioned. i do however think the simple delay sounded fatter until it was panned hard left and right.
I would also suggest looking into the ADT effect on the Helix. It's a double tracking feature modelled on something Abbey Road made for the Beatles, the Automatc Double Tracker (ADT). It's a lot more comprehensive than the Double Take and just a simple delay.
Mono is perfectly fine. Certainly good enough for the greats (old school ones anyway). But stereo is a fun luxury if you're able to get that set up. Doing it with the Helix on in-ear monitors definitely makes it easier.
Hi great video! Just one question: i've noticed both the double track or the delay block sounds good with the stock cabs, but it's quite bad with ir. Are the settings different for using this methid with ir? Thanks a lot
Hey. I can't say I have noticed any difference when using these techniques with IRs vs stock cabs. I've used them with both. It's an interesting disparity you're noticing. What differences are you hearing? I'd also be interested to know if anyone else has noticed this. Thanks for bringing this up.
Just wondering, why do you use the delay in a separate path with the mix at 100% and not just use a single path with the delay having a mix of 50%. Doesn’t that achieve the same effect??? (Need to admit, haven’t tried it myself :-)). Either way, thanks again, interesting video!
The delay is in a separate path because the whole signal is delayed and also panned to one side so simulate the effect of an imperfect re-recording of the guitar part. It needs to be panned or the effect will just be kind of a slap back style delay. I'd love to have a mono alternative but unfortunately you need a stereo image for this to work. Also, mix is at 100% because you want the volume level in both left and right to be equal and also so you don't hear any of the original signal on that side, delayed sound only. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for asking!
Cheers matey. I love Mesa/Boogie amps and have thought about (and still do) doing some tone videos on the Helix models. They seem to be a bit hard to dial in a consistently good tone (kind of like the actual amps, lol). But when I manage to get something I'm happy with then I'll definitely do those. The Lonestar (the actual tube amp) is one of my fav amps ever!
Double take combines Haas effect with subtle pitch change to avoid phasing and is better solution than stereo delay. Check parameters, slope defines how much delay you add to to one channel, sensitivity determines how much random pitch change you add. If you don't want to have "artifacts", put sensitivity on minimum. For details, watch excellent Jason Sadites video that explains it perfectly - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w8HmQmExnR8.html ... double take is better effect for live performance because it eliminates problems with phase interference between two speakers you would have with stereo delay. If you listen stereo delay on headphones, you will not hear interference, but crank up 2000W PA and listen what happens.
